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#21 Alteejani

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 12:30 AM

musalmano ne madina mushrikon se cheena tha ki yeh tawil ap ne ki ha ya zaid amid ne?bahar hal ab ager kohi deobandi Nabi kareem ke ilm ko sheetan ke ilm se kam kehta ha aur phir kehta ke yeh ghustakhi nahi ha?to phir yeh debate nahi ho gee zeed ho gee jo ap bi kar rehay hen.
bahi sahib zaid ne jo keha ha ke musalamno ne madina bi mushrikon se cheena tha aur jo tawil ap ne ki ha ager yeh tawil kohi bi sunni alim qabol kar lay ga to phir mein ap ki baat ko maan lon ga.ya phir assa karte hen ke is website ke jo bi islami bahi hen wo hi ap ki likhi tawil ko qabol kar lain to phir yeh banda bi ap k point ko haq man lay ga?
is liye mein tamam islami bahion se iltaja karta hon ke wo apni raaye se nawazin ke zaid hamid ne aik biyan diya ha ke (musalmano ne madina bi mushriqon se cheena tha)
main anwar200 kehta hon ke yeh aik jhoti baat ha.
alteejani bahi ne zaid hamid ke biyan ki jo tawil ki ha (
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ab ap sab bahi puri post bi par lain aur ager jo tawil alteejani bahi ne ki ha kia is roshani meh zaid hamid ka yeh biyan qabal qabol ho ga ke musalmano ne madina mushrikon se cheena tha?kia alteejani bahi ki tawil ko qabol kia ja skta ha?
theek ha alteejani bahi hum dono is baat ka faisila ya to kisi sunni alim deen per chorte hen aur ager assa nahi ho skta to phir jo raaye islami bahon ki ho gee os ko qabol kar lia jaye ga.ke hum 2 sunni bahion ko apas meh aljnay ki bajaye aksariat per chor dain.
aur is point per jo bi faisila islami bahi dain gay mein qabol karon ga aur omeed ha ke ap bi assa hi karin gay? jab is point ka faisila ho jaye ga
to phir next point per baat ho gee insha Allah.
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HAZRAT JES KE APNE IS TOPIC PER EK DOSRA THREAD BANA LYA HE LIHAZA AB ME MAZEED KOI BAT POST NAHI KARO GA SEWA E ISKE,KE AP KHODARA HAME DEOBANDION KE SAT MAT JORE APNE MISLAON ME OR KAHAN YE BAT OR KAHAN DEOBANDION KA KUFER,AGR BIL FARZ AP SAHIH BHI NIKAL TE HEN TO KYA HAM DEOBANDI KE QATAR ME SHAMIL KYE JAE GAE,BAS FIL HAL IS TARAF APKI TAWAJU KARAI HE KE HAM CHAHE GHALT BHI THARE APNI BAT PER LAKIN,DEOBANDION KE KUFER ME OR ZAID HAMID KI BAT ME ZAMEEN OR ASMAN KA FARQ HE,LIHAZA KHODARA HAMRE SAT KUCH INSAF KI JAYE GA

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 02:00 PM

HAZRAT JES KE APNE IS TOPIC PER EK DOSRA THREAD BANA LYA HE LIHAZA AB ME MAZEED KOI BAT POST NAHI KARO GA SEWA E ISKE,KE AP KHODARA HAME DEOBANDION KE SAT MAT JORE APNE MISLAON ME OR KAHAN YE BAT OR KAHAN DEOBANDION KA KUFER,AGR BIL FARZ AP SAHIH BHI NIKAL TE HEN TO KYA HAM DEOBANDI KE QATAR ME SHAMIL KYE JAE GAE,BAS FIL HAL IS TARAF APKI TAWAJU KARAI HE KE HAM CHAHE GHALT BHI THARE APNI BAT PER LAKIN,DEOBANDION KE KUFER ME OR ZAID HAMID KI BAT ME ZAMEEN OR ASMAN KA FARQ HE,LIHAZA KHODARA HAMRE SAT KUCH INSAF KI JAYE GA

piyare bahi alteejani phely baat to yeh ha ke mein ne zaid hamid ki baat ki ha na ke ap ki ap ko mein kohi ghair nahi samjta ke saab sunni aik family ki tarah hen.is liye mein ne hergiz ap ko deobandiyon ke sath shamil nahi kia ha han aik misal di ha ke zaid hamid ne aik jhot baat ki ke muslamano ne madina bi mushrikon se cheena tha is liye mera dawa ha ke zaid ne jhot bola ha.is saray chakar meh ap khud ko kiyon shamil karte hen?mein to ap ko apna sunni bahi kehta hon is liye ap ager ppp,mqm ya kisi bi siyasi jamat se hon laikin ap ki asal aur pehly pehchan to aik sunni ki hi ho gee na ke zaid hamid ke sathee ki.to bahi mein kehta hon ke ap sunni hen is liye mein kon hota hon ke ap ko deobandion se jor don?han ager ap 1st sunni nahi zaid hamid ke supporter hen to phir ap ka shikwa ban skta ha?to a meray sunni bahi baat seedhi se ha ke hum ko sunniyat ka dard rekhna ha na ke imran ,zaid,ppp ya mqm ka?
baqi rahi zaid hamid ki tawil jo ap ne ki ha wo mairi nazar meh qabal qabol nahi ha ke biyan yeh ha ke madina cheena giya tha jab ke cheena ka lafi matlab yehi hota ha ke taqat se zabardasti bazor bazo lar kar jang kar ke kisi ko zair kar apnay dhushman ki kisi chiz ko hasal karna ab ap ne tawil ki ke nahi wo dar asal aik munafiq badsha banana chata tha is liye is ko cheena waghara?to bahi kahan cheena aor kahan aik munafiq ka badsha ka matlaq zabardasati nikalna?siraf is liye ke zaid hamid ka jhot sabat na ho?bahi ager ap kisi apnay peero marshir ka defa karte kisi sunni alim ki kisi baat ka defa karte to dalil aik maslaki taloq ki nisbaat ha yeh kia chiz ha zaid jo wahabi,deobandion jamat islami ke logon ko baghal meh rekhta ha.deobandi taliban ko acha kehta ha.ap hi batwo ke afghanistan ke taliban
deobandi hen ya nahi?kia tailban ne afghanistan meh mizarat ka band kia ya na?kia naat wo kalam parnay per pabandi ki ya na?milad munanay ko band kia ya na?sunni ullama ko qatal kia ya na?kabul ke mizar shah shamaseera per urs khatam kia ya na?afghanistan meh taliban ne deobandion ki kutab ka farsi,pashtoo tarjuma karwa kr deeni nissab meh shamil kia ya na?to bahi alteejani sahib jis zaid hamid ko ap sunni qarar day rahay hen wo to barmala kehta ha ke afghanistan meh tailban ki hukomat theek thee.yar puri ummat musalma meh aik najdi hukomat kafi nahi thee islam ko tabah karnay ke liye jo zaid hamid afghanistan meh deobandi ko bi aik aur hukomat ka keh raha ha?afghanistan meh jab tailban ki hukomat thee to pakistan se wahabi deobandi dehshatgradi ki tarbiyat taliban se laytay rahay ya na?afghan tailban ki hukomat ka pakistan meh kis ko faida tha hum ko ya Allah wo Nabi kareem ke dhushmano wahabi,deobandion ko?aur ager dobara bi taliban ki humkomat ban ghee to bi kis ko faida ha ga brailvion ko ya Allah per jhot bolany walon ko?

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Posted 11 August 2010 - 08:54 PM

aur mein itna janta hon ke zaid hamid ager aik saih aqeeda sunni hota to wo hergiz Allah per jhot bolnay waloy deobandi taliban ki himayat na karta?kohi thori bohat soch rehnay wala aam sa sunni bi najdiyon se nafrat kiyon karta ha?ke wo janta ha ke najdi ghustakh hen to jis zaid hamid ko ap sunni brailvi sabat karnay ki koshish kar rahay hen wo to aik para likha insan ha kia os ko nahi malom ke taliban deobandi aqqeday se hen?kia zaid ko nahi malom ke deobandi aqeeda kia ha ?kia wo nahi janta ke deobandion ne kis qadar tohin rissalat ki ha?to bahi phir wo kis moun se taliban ko acha kehta ha jihadi kehta ha kia zaid ko nahi malom ke taliban hum jins baz hen?kia zaid ko nahi malom ke taliban apnay ilwa saab ko mushrik kehtay hen aur qatal karte hen?1997 meh mizar sharif meh 20,000 aam shariyon ko qatal kia waja yeh ke yeh log mizarat per jatay hen aur phir bi ager kohi khud ko brailvi sunni kehnay wala in taliban ko acha kehay jihadi ka darja day to bahi Ap khud bolo ke kia assay banday ko hum kasay sunni man lain?

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 12:53 AM

HAZRAT,AP KA BOHAT SHUKRIA KE AP MUJE EK SUNNI MUSALMAN SAMAJ TE HEN,LAKIN AFSOS KE AP ISI KHYAL KO ZAID HAMID SAB SE MANSOOB NAHI KAR TE HEN,HALANKE MENE APKO ZAID HAMID KE AQEEDE KE HAWALE LYE PIR JAMAAT ALI SHAH KE MUREEDEN KA HAWALA PESH KYA OR APNE QABOOL NAHI KYA,KHER AB AYE APKE ON BATON KO LEN JISE APKO ZAID HAMID SE IKHTELAAF HE OR AP OSKO BURA ADMI SAMAJ TE HEN,PEHLI BAT LOG DO HISO ME BATE HOWE HEN EK KHAWAS OR DOSRA AWAM,MERE NAZDEEQ HAR SHAKHS AWAM ME HE JO DIN KA ILM NAHI RAKH TA CHAHE WOH KISI BHI MASLAK KA HO OR KISI BHI DUNYAVI MANSAB PER FAEZ HO,TO AGR KOI SHAKHS DEOBANDI HE LAKIN WOH KHAWAS ME SHAMIL NAHI HE TO MERE NAZDEEQ WOH SHAKHS EK AAM MUSALMAN HE JAB TAQ WOH APNE AKBAR KI GUSTAKHION KA ILM NA RAKHTA HO OR UNKA DEFAA NA KAR RAHA HO,ME MAHEZ IS BINA PER KISI KO KAFER NAHI KE SAKTA KE WOH MERE MASLAK KA NAHI HE,MUJE KHOD IN WAHABI DEOBANDIO KI GUSTAKHION KA PATA ISI SITE PER CHALA USE PEHLAE ME LA ILM THA IN TAMAM BATON SE,IS LYE YE KAHNA KE TAMAM AAM WAHABI DEOBANDI EK HI PALERE ME HEN GHALAT HE,HAR FARD APNE GUNAHOO KA KHOD ZIMAE DAR HE,


2 ZAID HAMID NE AFGHANISTA ME JIHAD US ZAMANE ME KYA THA KE JAB TALIBAN KA NAAM BHI NAHI THA,IS LYE YE KAHNA KE ZAID HAMID TALIBAN KA HAMI HE SARA SAR GHALAT HE,LAKIN KYA TALIBAN AMERICA SE BAR KAR ISLAM DUSHMAN HE ?IS WAQT YE EK MEDIA KA PROPAGANDA ZYADA HE TALIBAN KE HAWALE SE KE AFGHANISTAN ME SIRF TALIBAN HI AMERICA KE KHILAF JANG KAR RAHI HE,BAR HAL HAMRI DUSHAMNI AMERICA SE HE NA KE TALIBAN SE, TALIBAN SE SIRF CHAND FARUVEE IKHTALAFAT HE MASLAK KE HAWALE SE NA KE QAEED KE HAWALE SE,PHIR WAHABI DEOBANDION KE SAT HAMARA HAR WAQT MEDAN KHOLA HE ILMI MUNAZIRA KE LYE JAB KE AMERICA KE LYE YE RAASTA NAHI,TO SAWAL YE HE KE AALME ISLAM KE LYE IS WAQT AMERICA SAB SE BARA DUSHMAN HE YA DEOBANDI WAHABI ?


3 ZAID HAMID KOI WAHABI DEOBANDI NAZRIAT KA PAR CHAR NAHI KAR TA WOH SIRF IS JADOJAHAD KE SAT HE JO AMERICA MUKHALIF HE,PHIR MERA SAWAL AP SE YE HE KE JAMIAT ULOOMA PAKISTAN KA KYA MUQIF HE JIHAD AFGHANISTAN SE,SUNNI TAHREEK KYA KAHTI HE AFGHANISTAN ME AMERICA KE HAWALE SE ?


4 JANAB AB AP MUJE YE BATAE KYA KABHI ASAN THA MUSALMAN KA MUSALMAN HONA ?AGR NAHI TO MADINA ASI HE MUSALMANO KA MARKAZ NAHI BAN GAYA,JAHAN PER MUNAFIQEEN KI TAQAT KA ANDAZA AP KHOD LAGA LEN ,YE THA KE HAZOOR Posted Image JAB UNKO NIKAL B SARE AAM TO 300 MARD OR 70 URTEN NIKLI YE US WAQT KI BAT HE JAB ISLAM GHALIB ACHUKA THA TAQREEBAN,TO IBTADAI WAQT ME KYA HALAT HOWE HON GAE AP KHOD SOCHE,BAS ZAID HAMID YE HI SAMAJANA CHATA HE




AKHR ME HAZRAT AP SE SIRF YE KAH SAKTA HON JO ME BAR BAR KAH CHUKA HON KE AP KHOD EK MARTABA ZAID HAMID MILE TAKE AP KE SARE SHAKOK DOR HO JAE,AGAE APKI MARZI

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Posted 12 August 2010 - 03:25 PM

bahi behas bare behas ka faida nahi hota ke zaid hamid ke saab jhoot(mega akash12 ne ) youtube per bana diye hen aur ager zaid sacha ha to phir aye jawab day?4 mah se aik bi jawab zaid ne nahi diya jo ke dalil ha ke wo jawab nahi day skta.aur megaakash ki videos meh to bar bar yehi baat ha ke ager zaid hamid mard ka bacha ha to jawab day apnay jhotay dawaon ka.
abhi tak 20 videos meh se aik ka jawab wo nahi day ska aur phir bi ap aik sabat shoda jhotay adami ki himayat kar rehay hen?zaid hamid ne keha ke ahmad shah masood pakistan se mohabat karta tha jab ke yeh baat 100% jhot ha ke wo to aik indian agent tha pakistan ke qoomi parcham ko jalanay wala tha pakistanion ko dal khoor kalay rang walay keh kar pukarta tha.
bahi 20 videos meh saab kuch ha ap bi on ko soun lain aur ager zaid is ka jawab day skta ha to aye midan meh.baqi ager zaid muj se debate karna chta ha to yeh siraf net per hi momkin ha ke mein yeh mari aik majboori ha warana aur baat thee.net per jo bi baat ho ghee wo recard meh bi rahay ghee.to youtube per ya kisi bi website per banda hazir ho jaye ga awal yeh ke zaid debate nahi kare ga ager kar li to insha Allah ap dekh lain gay ke wo bagh jaye ga yeh maira dawa ha ap aik bar os ko net per lain aur jo bi ho ga saab ke samnay aa jaye ga insha Allah.
omeed ha ke ap is baat per ghor farmin gay.
baqi ap ne jo tawil ki ha mein samjta hon ke wo theek nahi ha is liye mein ne saab islami bahion ki raye talab ki ha is meh kisi ki dil shkni maqsad nahi ha.kiyon ke ager zaid hamid ka yeh biyan jhot nahi ha to phir mein ap se maffi ka talabgar hon ga aur ager jhot ha to ap kisi jhotay banday ke himaiti nahi ho sktay.is waja se yeh bohat lazim ha ke zaid hamid ko jana jaye ke wo jhota ha ya nahi ager sacha ha to mein bi os ke sath shamil hon ga aur ager jhota ha to jhoton per Allah ki lanat ho.to bahi ap filhal is 1st point to clear karin hum saab ta ke sach jhot ki tamiz ho skay.


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 12:54 AM

bahi behas bare behas ka faida nahi hota ke zaid hamid ke saab jhoot(mega akash12 ne ) youtube per bana diye hen aur ager zaid sacha ha to phir aye jawab day?4 mah se aik bi jawab zaid ne nahi diya jo ke dalil ha ke wo jawab nahi day skta.aur megaakash ki videos meh to bar bar yehi baat ha ke ager zaid hamid mard ka bacha ha to jawab day apnay jhotay dawaon ka.
abhi tak 20 videos meh se aik ka jawab wo nahi day ska aur phir bi ap aik sabat shoda jhotay adami ki himayat kar rehay hen?zaid hamid ne keha ke ahmad shah masood pakistan se mohabat karta tha jab ke yeh baat 100% jhot ha ke wo to aik indian agent tha pakistan ke qoomi parcham ko jalanay wala tha pakistanion ko dal khoor kalay rang walay keh kar pukarta tha.
bahi 20 videos meh saab kuch ha ap bi on ko soun lain aur ager zaid is ka jawab day skta ha to aye midan meh.baqi ager zaid muj se debate karna chta ha to yeh siraf net per hi momkin ha ke mein yeh mari aik majboori ha warana aur baat thee.net per jo bi baat ho ghee wo recard meh bi rahay ghee.to youtube per ya kisi bi website per banda hazir ho jaye ga awal yeh ke zaid debate nahi kare ga ager kar li to insha Allah ap dekh lain gay ke wo bagh jaye ga yeh maira dawa ha ap aik bar os ko net per lain aur jo bi ho ga saab ke samnay aa jaye ga insha Allah.
omeed ha ke ap is baat per ghor farmin gay.
baqi ap ne jo tawil ki ha mein samjta hon ke wo theek nahi ha is liye mein ne saab islami bahion ki raye talab ki ha is meh kisi ki dil shkni maqsad nahi ha.kiyon ke ager zaid hamid ka yeh biyan jhot nahi ha to phir mein ap se maffi ka talabgar hon ga aur ager jhot ha to ap kisi jhotay banday ke himaiti nahi ho sktay.is waja se yeh bohat lazim ha ke zaid hamid ko jana jaye ke wo jhota ha ya nahi ager sacha ha to mein bi os ke sath shamil hon ga aur ager jhota ha to jhoton per Allah ki lanat ho.to bahi ap filhal is 1st point to clear karin hum saab ta ke sach jhot ki tamiz ho skay.



JABAN E QIBLA ,APNE MERI TAWIL KABOOL NAHI KI AB ME APER QURAN KI HOJAT QAIM KARTA HON APNI DALEL SE, SORAT AL MUNAFIQON ME HE (KAHTE HEN KE JAB HAM MADINA LOT JAWAE GAE TO HAME IZAT WALA,KAMTAR WALE KO BAHAR KAR DEN GA )MUJE YE BATAYE KE AYAT KIS BINA PER UTRI THI KON THA JO APNE APKO IZAT WALA KAH RAHA THA OR KIS KO BAHAR NIKAL NE KI DAMKI DER RAHA THA ?AP YE SAMAJ TE HEN KE MADINA YOHI ARAM SE KISI TASHT ME RAKH KE MUSALMANO PESH KAR DYA GAYA THA,JANAB WALA MUNAFIQEEN OR YAHOOD NE WOH KONSA HARBA HE JO OS WAQT NAHI AZMA YA THA! PHIR YE APKI AJEEB HOJAT HE KE ZAID HAMID NE APKE 20 VIDEO CLIPS KA JAWAB NAHI DYA !ME AP SE POCH TA HON KE APNE ZAID HAMID KE KITNE PROGRAM DEKHE HEN?ZAID HAMID KOI 200 SE ZAED PROGRAM TV CHANNELS PER OR BE TAHASHA PRIVATE MEHFILON ME LECTURE DE CHUKA HE,TO APNE KITNO KO SONA HE? LY JIYE APKE LYE EK CLIP HAZR HE IS SONEYE SHAED APKE SHAKOK KUCH DOR HOhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcJpjEKEKsRAHI BAT AHMED SHAH MASOOD KI MERE BHAI,AP HI THE JO MUJE SUNIO KE DARD BARE ME LESSON DE RAHE THE KYA APKO NAHI MALOOM KE AHMED SHAH MASOOD SUNNI THA ?AB YE PAKISTAN KI GOVERNEMENT OS WAQT BENAZIR BHUTTO KI THI AMERICA KE KAHNE PER TALIBAN KO SUPPORT KYA 6 PARTIES MUJAHIDEEN KE KHILAF AB YE LOG MUTANFIR NAHI HON GAE ? JAWAB AP DEN AKHR ME BARE BHAI MERA DUSHAMAN BHI AGR MUJE SE MUKHATIB HO TO ME CHATAHON KE WOH MUJE KHANDANI SAMAJE,AP BESHAK ZAID HAMID KO ACHA NA SAMAJE LAKIN ISTARA SE GALI NIKAL KE APNA QAD MAT CHOTA KAREN ,WA AKHRO DAAWANA ALHAMDOLLILAHI RAB ALAMEEN.


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:08 PM

JABAN E QIBLA ,APNE MERI TAWIL KABOOL NAHI KI AB ME APER QURAN KI HOJAT QAIM KARTA HON APNI DALEL SE, SORAT AL MUNAFIQON ME HE (KAHTE HEN KE JAB HAM MADINA LOT JAWAE GAE TO HAME IZAT WALA,KAMTAR WALE KO BAHAR KAR DEN GA )MUJE YE BATAYE KE AYAT KIS BINA PER UTRI THI KON THA JO APNE APKO IZAT WALA KAH RAHA THA OR KIS KO BAHAR NIKAL NE KI DAMKI DER RAHA THA ?AP YE SAMAJ TE HEN KE MADINA YOHI ARAM SE KISI TASHT ME RAKH KE MUSALMANO PESH KAR DYA GAYA THA,JANAB WALA MUNAFIQEEN OR YAHOOD NE WOH KONSA HARBA HE JO OS WAQT NAHI AZMA YA THA! PHIR YE APKI AJEEB HOJAT HE KE ZAID HAMID NE APKE 20 VIDEO CLIPS KA JAWAB NAHI DYA !ME AP SE POCH TA HON KE APNE ZAID HAMID KE KITNE PROGRAM DEKHE HEN?ZAID HAMID KOI 200 SE ZAED PROGRAM TV CHANNELS PER OR BE TAHASHA PRIVATE MEHFILON ME LECTURE DE CHUKA HE,TO APNE KITNO KO SONA HE? LY JIYE APKE LYE EK CLIP HAZR HE IS SONEYE SHAED APKE SHAKOK KUCH DOR HOhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvcJpjEKEKsRAHI BAT AHMED SHAH MASOOD KI MERE BHAI,AP HI THE JO MUJE SUNIO KE DARD BARE ME LESSON DE RAHE THE KYA APKO NAHI MALOOM KE AHMED SHAH MASOOD SUNNI THA ?AB YE PAKISTAN KI GOVERNEMENT OS WAQT BENAZIR BHUTTO KI THI AMERICA KE KAHNE PER TALIBAN KO SUPPORT KYA 6 PARTIES MUJAHIDEEN KE KHILAF AB YE LOG MUTANFIR NAHI HON GAE ? JAWAB AP DEN AKHR ME BARE BHAI MERA DUSHAMAN BHI AGR MUJE SE MUKHATIB HO TO ME CHATAHON KE WOH MUJE KHANDANI SAMAJE,AP BESHAK ZAID HAMID KO ACHA NA SAMAJE LAKIN ISTARA SE GALI NIKAL KE APNA QAD MAT CHOTA KAREN ,WA AKHRO DAAWANA ALHAMDOLLILAHI RAB ALAMEEN.

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bahi ap kia kehtay hen ke quran se sabat ha ke musalmano ne madina musrikon se cheena tha???jis ke ap ne hawala dia ha?plz han ya na meh jawab dain?musalmano ne madina bi musrikon se cheena tha ki jo ap ne tawil ki ha ager yeh hi tawil kohi alim deen katre to phir os ko qabol kia ja skta ha is liye ager zaid hamid ke is biyan ki jo bi tawil ullama ahle sunat karin wo hi qabal qabol ho gee.ya ager islami bahi yahan apni raye likh dain to bi baat qabol kron ga.baqi ap ne yeh kis se suna ha ke ahmed shah masood suni tha?jo ap ne yeh (
THE KYA APKO NAHI MALOOM KE AHMED SHAH MASOOD SUNNI THA ) are bahi afghanistan per zaid hamid ko muj se ziyada malomat hen kia?to bahi yad rekh lo ke yeh banda hergiz sunni nahi tha yeh aur rubani hikmatyar maslaki itbar se akhwan ulmuslimeen se tuloq tha.
ager ap ki ya zaid hamid ki nazar meh akhwan ulmuslimeen walay aqqeda ahle sunat waljamat hen hanafi brailvi hen to phir dasat man bala asat.bahi zaid ke jo jhot hen os per wo kia kehta ha os ka jawab kis se milay ga?


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Posted 13 August 2010 - 05:31 PM

bahi ap kia kehtay hen ke quran se sabat ha ke musalmano ne madina musrikon se cheena tha???jis ke ap ne hawala dia ha?plz han ya na meh jawab dain?musalmano ne madina bi musrikon se cheena tha ki jo ap ne tawil ki ha ager yeh hi tawil kohi alim deen katre to phir os ko qabol kia ja skta ha is liye ager zaid hamid ke is biyan ki jo bi tawil ullama ahle sunat karin wo hi qabal qabol ho gee.ya ager islami bahi yahan apni raye likh dain to bi baat qabol kron ga.baqi ap ne yeh kis se suna ha ke ahmed shah masood suni tha?jo ap ne yeh (
THE KYA APKO NAHI MALOOM KE AHMED SHAH MASOOD SUNNI THA ) are bahi afghanistan per zaid hamid ko muj se ziyada malomat hen kia?to bahi yad rekh lo ke yeh banda hergiz sunni nahi tha yeh aur rubani hikmatyar maslaki itbar se akhwan ulmuslimeen se tuloq tha.
ager ap ki ya zaid hamid ki nazar meh akhwan ulmuslimeen walay aqqeda ahle sunat waljamat hen hanafi brailvi hen to phir dasat man bala asat.bahi zaid ke jo jhot hen os per wo kia kehta ha os ka jawab kis se milay ga?



JANAB WALA MENE JO TAWEEL KI APNI TAWEEL PER EK AYAT PESH KI,MUJE IS BAT SE IKHTALAF NAHI KE ULOOMA AHLE SUNNA KYA KAHE GAE,AGR WOH YE KAH BHI DE KE ZAID HAMID GHALAT HE TO ME MAAN LON GA,LAKIN IS ME JHOT KA KYA TALOQ KYO KE WOH ASA SAMAJ TA HE,OR SAMAJ NE KE LYE HI MENE APKO EK AYAT DI KE ASA SAMAJ LENA KOI KHILAFE SHARIAT NAHI,RAHI BAT AHMED SHAH MASOOD KI TO JANAB YE BAT MERE ANDAZE KI HE KIO KE TALIBAN TO PAKE WAHABI HE PHIR UNKE KHILAF GHER WAHABI HI LARE GA OR YE TO MUJE YAQEEN HE KE AHMED SHAH MASOOD SHIA NAHI THA,TO BAKI KYA RAH GAYA SUNNI,TO GHALEB AMKAN YAHI HE KE AHMED SHAH MASOOD SUNNI MASLAK KA THA OR YE NAHI PATA KE WOH HANFI THA YA SHAFEE LAKIN TALIBAN SE TAKRANE WALE GHALIBAN SUNNI HI MASLAK KE THE KIO KE WAHABIAT APAS ME KIO TAKRAE,OR AKHWAN MUSLIMON KI TANZEEM JAMAAT E ISLAMI KI TARZI KI HE JIS ME IMKAN HE SAB KI SHAMOLIAT KA BAKI ALLAH O ALAM</i> </i>

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Posted 13 August 2010 - 08:40 PM

bahi mera aik mushwara ha ke ap andazay ke paish nazar khabhi bi kisi debate meh kuch na likha karin ta waqat ke pura yaqeen na ho aur apnay dawa ka kohi dalil jab tak na ho.bahi masla yeh ha ke ap ka ahmed shah masood ke sunni honay ka andaza ghalat ha ke yeh banda aik bohat bara azeeyat pasand zalim wo pakistan dhushman tha.jis zamanay meh yeh kabul univercity meh tha to yeh ,hikmatyar ke sath mil ker larkion ke chahre per tezab dal diya karta tha bal ke aik fariba nami larki jis ka yeh ashiq bi tha jab is ke ishaq meh nakam howa to os per tezab dal diya tha.baqi bohat achi baat ha ke ap ne taliban ka wahabi hona qabol kia ha laikin zaid hamid ki baat chorin ke wo kia kehta ha.to bahi yad rekhin ke ahmed shah masood ki taliban se jang mazbi bunyad per nahi thee asal meh taliban phuston hen aur wo ghair pushton tha os ki hikmatyar se jang bi is hi waja se thee maslaki itbar se dono hi akhwan ulmuslimeen ke thay.shomali itahad meh shia,bi thay aur siyaf bi tha jo ke katar ghar mokalad wahabi ha is liye ke saudia arab ki yeh soch thee ke ager taliban ke bad masood ki hakomat bi aa jaye to is sorat meh bi wahabi afghanistan meh siyaf ki sorat meh mazbot hon.to bahi ap ko yaqeen karna ho chaye ke ahmed shah na to sunni tha aur nahi hi pakistan ka dosat.taliban ager os ko kabul ki hukomat day daytay to wo bi deobandi ban jata ke assáy logon ka kohi deen mazhab nahi hota.yeh log taqat ko hi sab kuch jantay hen.dekho bahi ager aik adami sare pakistanion se media meh aa kar mukhtab ha to



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Posted 13 August 2010 - 09:20 PM

kohi baat karne se pehlay yeh zoroori hota ha ke qoum ko wo baat batai jaye jo haqeeqat per mabni ho yeh nahi ke jo moun meh aya keh diya ke bahi yeh kaam bohat zame dari ka hota ha zaid hamid ko kia malom nahi tha ke jab mein yeh kehon ga ke musalmano ne madina bi mushrokon se cheena tha yeh baat media meh aye gee??????? to janab wo janta tha laikin josh khatabat meh char chand laganay ke liye jhot ka izafa kar diya kiyon?cholo ager os ne ghalti se he yeh baat ki ha to aj zaid hamid is ghalti ki maffi bi mang skta ha ya nahi?mang skta ha laikin phir wohi baat ke yeh banda sharam naami chiz se ari ha.zaid ne dosra jhot yeh bola ke afghanistan meh 5 lac russi foj aik waqat meh thee kia ap is baat ko bi jhot nahi kehtay?os ka tisra jhot ke 50 lac muslim shaheed howay batwary ke doran ap is ko bi jhot nahi mantay?
zaid ka 4 th jhot ke russia ke pas gram
pani ki kohi bandargah nahi thee jab ke os ke pass 2 thin aur ab bi hen kia is ko bi ap jhot nahi kehtay?zaid ka 5th jhot ke zia ko os ne shaheed keha jab ke wo aik to bad mazhab tha aur dosra os ne quran per halaf lia tha ke wo pakistan meh 90din meh intahabat kroway ga jo os ne nahi kia.6 jhot aur yeh jhot jamat islami walay bi boltay hen ke afghano ne pakistan ka defa kia tha.7 jhot ke ahmed shah mosood pakistan ka dosat tha8 jhot ke c.i.a 1981 meh afghan jang meh shamil howi thee jab ke c.i.a 1978 se hi shamil thee.8 jhot ke akhwan ul muslimeen ke log afghan jihad karne aye thay jab ke haqeeqat yeh ha ke c.i.a ne on ko dollar diye thay ta ke wo jang karin kia ap inkar karte hen ke assa nahi tha?to zaid ko bi malom ha ke assa hi tha to phir jihad to Allah ke liye hota ha na ke dollar lay kar to phir zaid hamid ne in karaye ke qatilon ko jihadi kiyon keha????????
to bahi ager ab bi ap nahi mantay ke zaid jhota ha to phir maza tab ha ke kohi sabat kare ke madina cheena tha,5 lac foj,zia ko shaheed,masood ko pak dosat,aur degar tamam batin jo likhi hen.sabat ager nahi kar sktay to phir kohi dawa bekar ha aur jo jhotay ko sacha kehay Allah os ko hidayat day.




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Posted 14 August 2010 - 03:30 AM

kohi baat karne se pehlay yeh zoroori hota ha ke qoum ko wo baat batai jaye jo haqeeqat per mabni ho yeh nahi ke jo moun meh aya keh diya ke bahi yeh kaam bohat zame dari ka hota ha zaid hamid ko kia malom nahi tha ke jab mein yeh kehon ga ke musalmano ne madina bi mushrokon se cheena tha yeh baat media meh aye gee??????? to janab wo janta tha laikin josh khatabat meh char chand laganay ke liye jhot ka izafa kar diya kiyon?cholo ager os ne ghalti se he yeh baat ki ha to aj zaid hamid is ghalti ki maffi bi mang skta ha ya nahi?mang skta ha laikin phir wohi baat ke yeh banda sharam naami chiz se ari ha.zaid ne dosra jhot yeh bola ke afghanistan meh 5 lac russi foj aik waqat meh thee kia ap is baat ko bi jhot nahi kehtay?os ka tisra jhot ke 50 lac muslim shaheed howay batwary ke doran ap is ko bi jhot nahi mantay?
zaid ka 4 th jhot ke russia ke pas gram
pani ki kohi bandargah nahi thee jab ke os ke pass 2 thin aur ab bi hen kia is ko bi ap jhot nahi kehtay?zaid ka 5th jhot ke zia ko os ne shaheed keha jab ke wo aik to bad mazhab tha aur dosra os ne quran per halaf lia tha ke wo pakistan meh 90din  meh intahabat kroway ga jo os ne nahi kia.6 jhot aur yeh jhot jamat islami walay bi boltay hen ke afghano ne pakistan ka defa kia tha.7 jhot ke ahmed shah mosood pakistan ka dosat tha8 jhot ke c.i.a 1981 meh afghan jang meh shamil howi thee jab ke c.i.a 1978 se hi shamil thee.8 jhot ke akhwan ul muslimeen ke log afghan jihad karne aye thay jab ke haqeeqat yeh ha ke c.i.a ne on ko dollar diye thay ta ke wo jang karin kia ap inkar karte hen ke assa nahi tha?to zaid ko bi malom ha ke assa hi tha to phir jihad to Allah ke liye hota ha na ke dollar lay kar to phir zaid hamid ne in karaye ke qatilon ko jihadi kiyon keha????????
to bahi ager ab bi ap nahi mantay ke zaid jhota ha to phir maza tab ha ke kohi sabat kare ke madina cheena tha,5 lac foj,zia ko shaheed,masood ko pak dosat,aur degar tamam batin jo likhi hen.sabat ager nahi kar sktay to phir kohi dawa bekar ha aur jo jhotay ko sacha kehay Allah os ko hidayat day.





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Posted 14 August 2010 - 05:33 PM


(1 ANWAR BHAI, GO YA KE ME SARI BATON SE WAQIF NAHI HON JO KUCH AP KAH RAHE HEN LAKIN MERA TAJBRA KAHTA HE KE APKI BATEN GHER MANTAQI OR GHER HAQEEQI HEN2 )bahi sahib jab ap khud kehtay hen ke ap sari baton se waqif nahi hen to phir behas kiyon kar rahay hen?jab ap ko sari baton se waqif ho jain to phir baat kar lain.ap ne likha ke anwar200 ki batin ghair muntaqi aur ghair haqiqi hen to bahi ap assa kro ke jo jo bi baat ap ko ghair haqiqi lagti ha wo yahan likh do?ta ke mein is ko jaan pawon?mein ne guzashta post meh likha tha ke jis qurani ayat ka hawala ap ne diya ha kia ap zaid hamid ke biyan (madina bi musalmano ne mushrikon se cheena tha jis per mein jo pucha bahi ap kia kehtay hen ke quran se sabat ha ke musalmano ne madina musrikon se cheena tha???jis ke ap ne hawala dia ha?plz han ya na meh jawab dain?ap ne is ka jawab bi nahi dia?aur wo bi siraf han ya na meh?jo dalil ha ke ap bi jantay hen ke qurani ayat aur zaid hamid ke jhotay biyan ka kohi rabat nahi banta ha aur ager ap apni baat per qaim hen to phir kisi sunni alim deen se rujo kia jaye?bahar hal ap ne likha ke mosood sunni tha jis per mein ne raad kia ke wo akhwan ulmuslimeen ka tha na ke sunni brailvi jis per ap ne likh ke ap ka andaza tha to bahi andazon ki bunyad per ap behas karte hen aur laikin mayri baton ko ghair haqeeqi kehtay hen?acha cholo phir ap hi bata do aur sabat kro ke masood akhwan nahi sunni tha?aur sabat kro ke madina cheena tha?ap na to mayri baat qabol karte ho aur na hi apni baat ki dalil paish karte ho?zaid hamid ke khilaf jo batin utube per hen on meh se kisi aik ka jawab na wo day skta ha aur na hi muj se afghanistan ki jang per behas kar skta ha wo bechara jamat islami ki kutab se mutasar ho ker khud ko afghan jihadi kehta ha aur afghan mujahid ke libas meh chand aik photo ak47 ke sath bachon ko ahmaq banany ky liye laf dainay se kohi jihadi to nahi ban jata na?
jehan tak ap ne sawal kia afghanistan ke jihad ke bare meh to bahi pehly baat to yeh ha ke kia ap inkar karte hen ke arab wo degar namnehad jihadion ne c.i.a se dollar nahi liye thay?plz han ya na meh jawab dain jo ap nahi dain gay.yeh baat sabat ha ke afghan jihad ka ghalat istamal kia giya tha ab yeh to momkin nahi ke ghalat ko bi haq keha jaye is jihad meh jo log Allah ke liye mare gaye wo shaheed hen aur wo mujad mujadadi aur gillani sahib ke group ke thay jo apnay dilon meh aqeeda ahle sunat wal jamat rakhtay thay.baqi jo log dollar lay kar aur deobandi,wahabi jamati salfi,ravzi aqeeda apna kar is meh mare gaye wo kutay ki mout mare aur is waqat bi on per Allah ka azab ha insha Allah to alteejani sahib aj bi to taliban khud kash humlay meh apni jan daytay hen to kia hum on ko jihadi ka naam dain?wo bi to khud ko jihadi kehtay hen jan bi daytay hen?zaid hamid se malom kro ke ager kashmir meh wo kiyon nahi jihad ke liye giya tha wahan per jihad to 1947 se banta tha isreal ke khilaf bi to jihad 1949 se tha laikin dollar ke zoor per afghan jihad 1979 walay meh hi shamil kiyon howay?Allah ke liye jihad to kashmir aur bait ulmokadas meh bi ho skta tha laikin yahoo wo nisar ki mansha aur dollat per jihad karnay walon ko meh jihadi nahi manta.




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Posted 15 August 2010 - 01:33 AM

ANWAR SAB AP SHAED MERI POST SAHIH TARA PAR TE NAHI HE,MENE YE KEHNA KE ME SARI BATON SE WAQIF NAHI MURAD APKI OS BAT SE HE JO APNE AHMED SHAH MASOOD KE HAWALE SE KAHI OR SAT ME MENE YE BHI KAHA KE MERA TAJRUBA APKI BATON KO RAD KAR TA HE,KHER ASAL MASLA APKA ZAID HAMID SAB HE,OR AP MERI IS TAWEEL KO QABOOL NAHI KAR RAHE HEN KE MOSALMANO NE MUSHRIKEEN SE MADINA CHEENA THA LAKIN KAM SE KAM AP YE TO MAAN LEN KE CHEENE KA MATLAB JANG HI NAHI HOTA,HAM NE PAKISTAN HINDOWO SE OR ANGREZON SE CHEENA THA KE NAHI,APKO YAAD HE DEOBANDI KYA KAHTE THE KE HAM PAKISTAN KI PE BHI BAN NAHI DEN GAE OR ASE WAQT ME HAMRE BUZRAG KYA KAHTE THE KE HAM PAKISTAN KE NOUN BHI BANA KE CHRE GAE,OR YE NARA TO APKE ZEHAN ME HON GA (BAT KE RAHE GA HINDUSTAN LEKAR RAHE GAE PAKISTAN)AB ISE KYA KAHE GAE CHEENA KE NAHI,SO ISTARA SE AGR BAT KO SAMJNE KI KOSHISH KARE KE MUNAFIQEEN KOI ASA SAL NAHI JATA THA MADINA ME KE JIS ME YE LOG KOI NA KOI FITNA NA KAR TE,OR IN FITNO KA ASAL MAQASAD KYA HOTA, AB AP YE BATAEN?




2 BHAI JO LOG US WAQT AWAM ME THE MENE YE PEHLA HI BATA CHUKA HON KE AWAM SE MERI MURAD KYA HE,JIHAD ME SHAREEK THE UNKA MAQSAD AGR ALLAH OR USKE RASOOL KI RAZAMANDI NAHI TO WOH KYA MARNE KE BAD JANAT DOLLAR KE KHARIDE GA ? AB YE TO ALLAH HI JANTA HE KE KON SHAHEED HOWA OR KON NAHI,LAKIN AB SORATE HAL MUKHATALIF HE TALIBAN JO AMERICA KE KHILAF LAR RAH HEN ONKO AB GHALAT NAHI KAH SAKTE HEN OR JO PAKISTAN KE KHILAF KARWAI KAR RAHE HEN WOH GHALAT HEN ONKE HAM SAB MUKHALIF HEN




AP PEHLAY YE TAFREEQ KARE KE TALIBAN PAKISTAN OR TALIBAN AFGHANISTAN PHIR AP YE BATAEN KYA SARE DEOBANDI KAFER HEN YA WOH LOG JIKI TAABEERAT ME KUFER HE ?

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 03:15 PM

ap ki post ko perta hon is liye jawab bi os ke mutabiq day raha hon ab jassa ke ap ne keha (
ANWAR SAB AP SHAED MERI POST SAHIH TARA PAR TE NAHI HE,MENE YE KEHNA KE ME SARI BATON SE WAQIF NAHI MURAD APKI OS BAT SE HE JO APNE AHMED SHAH MASOOD KE HAWALE SE KAHI OR SAT ME MENE YE BHI KAHA KE MERA TAJRUBA APKI BATON KO RAD KAR TA HE)ap se darhawasat ha ke ap ab apna tajruba ahmed shah masood aur afghanistan ke bare meh likh dain ta ke malom ho ke ap ka tajruba kis qadar wasih ha?aur ap kia inkar karte hen ke ahmed shah akhwan ulmuslimin ka nahi tha?bahi itna to bata dain?ap ne likha ke wo sunni tha mein ne saaf tor per likh ke nahi wo akhwan tha ab ap kia kehtay hen? yeh tariqa hota ha ke ap ko mayri baat raad karnay ka haq ha meger is ke sath ap ko apna point bi to batna chahye.ab ap ahmed shah,afghanistan ke mutilq mayri jis baat ko raad karte hen to ap ki kia malomat hen jis ko ap theek samjatay hen wo bi to likh dain na bahi sahib?
baqi mein ne ap se kahee bar iltaja ki ha ke itna hi bata dain ke jo qurani ayat ap ne likhi ha kia zaid hamid ka biyan ke madina bi musrikon se cheena tha kia yeh os ayat ke mutabiq ha jis ka ap ne hawala diya ha plz plz plz is ka jawab han ya na meh likh dain.


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Posted 15 August 2010 - 04:56 PM

Janab e man,Ap meri bat ko samaj nahi pa rahe hen ,jab mene kaha ke mera tajruba apki bat ko rad kar ta he to is murad apki woh bat jis me apne Ahmed Shah Masood per teezab phekne ka ilzam aed kya tha,Me guzehsta 20 salon se uper ek armed force ka mulazim ho isi bunyad per me ye kahta hon ke ju shakhs istara ke psycho crimins kare woh kisi bhi lehaz se ek resistance force ki Command nahi kar sakta,balke woh to ek choti comapny ki bhi command ke laek nahi,Jang jo he woh mehaz hatyaro ka khel nahi isme admi ke Aasab bhi mazboot hone chaheye,kamzoor Aasab wala shakhs Jang karne ke laek nahi or phir esa Admi jo Muhabit me nakami ko apne Aasab per musalat karde woh shakhs command to bohat hi door ki bat use to swipper ke torpe bhi bharti nahi kya ja sakta, ab ap meri bat samaje ke nahi,

Rahi bat ayat ki Taweel ki to Hazrat mene apko Madina bare bataya tha ke esa nahi ke musalmano ko chaen se rahne dya jata,Quran me ek dosri ayat isi hawale se ke harsal munafiqeen koi na koi fitna gharlete,ab ap majmoee torpe pe Madina hayat ka mutaela kare to bat saf nazr ati he ke jab tak Macca fatah nahi ho gaya Madina me Musalmano ko cha


en se rahne nahi dya gaya,is bat ko zahen me rakhte howe Zaid Hamid ne kaha ke Musalmano ne Madina Mushreekin se cheena tha,ab bat to saf ho gai ke cheene ka matlab jang har giz nahi warna Ziad Hamid Pakistan ki Misal nahi jor te,

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 10:32 PM

Janab e man,Ap meri bat ko samaj nahi pa rahe hen ,jab mene kaha ke mera tajruba apki bat ko rad kar ta he to is murad apki woh bat jis me apne Ahmed Shah Masood per teezab phekne ka ilzam aed kya tha,Me guzehsta 20 salon se uper ek armed force ka mulazim ho isi bunyad per me ye kahta hon ke ju shakhs istara ke psycho crimins kare woh kisi bhi lehaz se ek resistance force ki Command nahi kar sakta,balke woh to ek choti comapny ki bhi command ke laek nahi,Jang jo he woh mehaz hatyaro ka khel nahi isme admi ke Aasab bhi mazboot hone chaheye,kamzoor Aasab wala shakhs Jang karne ke laek nahi or phir esa Admi jo Muhabit me nakami ko apne Aasab per musalat karde woh shakhs command to bohat hi door ki bat use to swipper ke torpe bhi bharti nahi kya ja sakta, ab ap meri bat samaje ke nahi,

Rahi bat ayat ki Taweel ki to Hazrat mene apko Madina bare bataya tha ke esa nahi ke musalmano ko chaen se rahne dya jata,Quran me ek dosri ayat isi hawale se ke harsal munafiqeen koi na koi fitna gharlete,ab ap majmoee torpe pe Madina hayat ka mutaela kare to bat saf nazr ati he ke jab tak Macca fatah nahi ho gaya Madina me Musalmano ko cha


en se rahne nahi dya gaya,is bat ko zahen me rakhte howe Zaid Hamid ne kaha ke Musalmano ne Madina Mushreekin se cheena tha,ab bat to saf ho gai ke cheene ka matlab jang har giz nahi warna Ziad Hamid Pakistan ki Misal nahi jor te,

Umeed ab ke mene apke kafi shakok dor kar dye hon gae

bahi afsos ha ke ap ko kohi malomat nahi ha ahmed shah aur afghanistan ke mutaliq ap yahan per siraf mera waqat zaia kar rahay hen bahi ap ko ager nahi malom ke shah teezab dalata tha os n apny niji jail banway thay jehan logon ke sath insaniyat soz solok karta tha afghan jang meh to aksar russia ke sath aman mohada hota tha os ka os ne is jang meh apni ziyada koshish yehi ki thee ke wo kaz se kam jang kare kiyon ke os ka maqsad kuch aur tha.ap jawo megaaksh12 ki video suno te ke ap ko afghan halat per kuch malomat ho.bahar hal ap manay ya na manay haq hamasha sar char ker bolta ha ke jab se wo video utube per lagay hen beshomar logon ko zaid hamid ke jhoton ka malom howo ha aur log is se baz zan howay hen 23 march ke jalsa ka hal sab ne dekh lia ha aur khuda ki qasam wo kabhi bi kisi video ka jawab nahi day paye ga ke ya banda bachon pr hi roab dal skta ha aur jehan tak ap ka taloq ha to bas mein yehi kehon ga ke ap shakhshiyat parsati ke marz meh mubtala ho chokay hen ke sach jhot samnay rekh diya aur phir bi ap zid karte hen?khbhi ayat ka hawala diya aur jab puch ke yeh ayat zaid ke biyan se mutaliq ha jo ayat ka hawala diya ha to ap ghom som ho?han ya na meh jawab do bas.
kahi munafaq ke badsha aur kabhi mecca ki fath se is biyan ko jortay ho ap?jab ke aik bi tawil nahi ha is ke biyan ki.ab ya to ap post band kar dain ya phir itna hi sabat kar dain ke ahmad shah ahkwan ha ya nahi aur ahkwan ka aqeeda sunniyat per ha kia jo ap ne os ko sunni likha?to the point jawab dain yeh kia ke g mein wakif nahi ho ya yeh nahi manta bahi ap hergiz zaid hamid ko brailvi bi sabat nahi kar sktay ager wo brailvi ha to aye sab ke samnay bolay ke mein brailvi hon aur deobandi ullama ne apni kutab meh ghustakhion likhi hen is waja se mein on ke kafar ka qail hon.tab tu hum manay ke yeh banda brailvi ha.tarif deo,wahab salfion ,jamat islami ki aur ap hum ko yeh batany ki nakam koshish meh ho ke zaid brailvi ha?????????? yar yahan kohi pagal banday to nahi hen ke ap ki baton ko qabol kar lain?acha chola yeh hi bata do ke jo banda jamat islami ki tanzim ko acha kehay pakistan ka wafadar kehay wo bi brailvi ha kia?israr ahmed ko alim deen kehay?taliban ko jihadi keh wo brailvi ha kia?bahi pls apna aur waqa zaye na kro ager tum ko zaid hamid per itna hi man ha to os ko bolo ke ager wo mard ka bach ha to jawab day utube per?wo nahi jawab day skta yeh to ap hi kuch zeed meh be qar waqat barbad kar rehay hen.Allah ap ko seedha rasta dekhe

#37 Anwar200

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 10:42 PM

deobandi wahabi modoodist yahoodi agent zia ziad hamid ka hero ha
kia yeh sabot kafi nahi ha?
hamid gul deobandi jo ke zaid hamid ka hero ha jamat islami ka taraf dar ha




#38 Alteejani

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:19 AM

MERE HABIB,AP NA SAMAJE HEN NA SAMAJE GAE,BAR HAL PHIR YE FAQEER APNI KOSHISH JARI RAKHE GA,KHER AYE ZARA APKI BATON KA JAEZA LEN


APKA YE KAHNA KE AHMED SHAH MASOOD KE ZALIM THA OR USKI NEEJI JAIL THI OR WOH RUSSIA SE JANG KARNE KAM KARNA CHATA THA WAGHERA WAGHER,BHAI EK BAT BATAEN KYA KOI BAT BEGHER SABOT KE MAN LY JAE BEHTAR HE YA SABOT PESH KARNE KA KAHE AKHR FAREEQ SANI KO BHI DEFAA KA HAQ HE KE NAHI, SABOT JISE KAHTE HEN (SUBSTANCES EVIDENCE )SAMNE NA HO TAB TAKE ILZAM MEHAZ ILZAM HI SAMJA JAE GA OR KUCH NI, TO YE AP PER HE KE JO BATAEN AP AHMED SHAH MASOOD KE HAWALE SE KAH RAHE HEN,UN KO SABIT KARE SABOT PESH KAR KE,


2 BHAI MENE AYAT PESH KI AP KOI DALEEL PESH KARE KE AYAT IS TAWEEL PER NAHI UTAR TI BAT JAB BANE GI KE AP BHI DALEEL KA JAWAB DALEEL SE DEN AJ 5 ROZ HO GAE HEN AB TAK KOI BHI FARD APKE BANAYE WOHE THREAD PER KUCH NAHI LIKH SAKA CHALEN OR MAZEED INTE ZAR KARE GAE,KE KAHA TAK THEEK HE YE KAHNA KE MADINA MOSALMANO NE MUNAFIQEEN OR MUSHRIQEEN SE CHEENA THA,YAAD RAHE YE MAHEZ EK MAFHOOM HE NAKE KOI FATWA HE,




3 BHAI ME KAHTA HON ZAID HAMID SUNI HE DEOBANDI KAHTE HON GAE KE WOH WAHABI HE SHIA KAHE GAE KE ZAID HAMRA HE BA QOL SHAER( ZARA INSANIAT KO JAG JANE DO SAB KAHE GAE KE HUSSAIN HAMRE HEN)


4 YAAR HAR KOI ISTARA KI VIDEO CLIP BANA KAR YE KAHNE LAG JAE KE ZAID HAMID JAMATI HE YA ZIA UL HAQ KA CHAHNE WALA HE TO HO GAYA PHIR KAM BHAI JESE MENE KAHA KE HAR KOI USE APNA SMAJ TA HE OR YEHI TO KHOBI HE,AB AGE AP NA SAMAJE TO HABIBI KYA KYA JA SAKTA HE

#39 Ghulam e Azhari

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 01:53 PM

Is topic par bohot ziada out of topic baaten horahi hen. To plz ye rule hai k topic k mutabik hi baat karni hai, Zaid Hamid k liye alag topic jab open hai to phir yahan is par baat karne ki kia hajat hai? Yahan Sheikh Amin Idreesi par baat karni hai kiunke topic ussi k liye open hua hai. Akhir bila waja out of topic baat karne men hikmat hi kia hai?

Moderators jald is topic se tamam ghair mutalliqa posts delete karden, Anwar sahb aur Alteejani sahb aap apne posts copy paste kar k record karlen kiunke apke posts delete hone wale hen.
JazakAllah!

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