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#21 Ubaid-e-Raza

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Posted 11 June 2007 - 11:46 PM


(salam) Muhtram baat yeh hai ki jinn muffaasreen karram ka main hawala doon ga woo app kay liay qabilay qubool nai hoon gay aur jinn kaa app nay dia hai unn par main aankhain band kar kay aitbaar nai kar saktaa


(wasalam)
ap aankhain khol kar qabol kar lain. aur ager kahen koi ghalat hawala dya gaya ho tu hamari islah bhi farmain.

so iss tarhaa baat barti jai gi aur hamaishaa chalti rahay gi jaisay chooda soo saall say chalti aa rai hai,


ager qabool karnay ka zehn ho tu faisla yaqenan ho sakta hai.

jiss ayat ka hawalla app nay fatway ki roo say dia hai sirf chand ulmaa kay kehnay par aik jaleelul qadar hasti kay imaan ka faisla sunnaa dainaa............haalankay ayat ka matan bhi koi qatai daleel nazar nai aati jabkay suraa Alay Imran ki ayat 6 ki roo say agar imanay abu talib ko saaqit kia jai to sirf matan ki roo say( NaoozbiAllha)naboowat SAAW main shak paida honnay ka ,kia andaishaa nai hoota?


hazrat ap ne kitni aayatain paish ki hain. kisi aik per bhi mufasir ka hawala quote nahi kya kay yeh ayat eman e abutalib kay baray main hai.. hum ne kya tu aap kehtay chand mufasiren kay hawalay. aap apni ayat per aisay naam war mufasiren kay hawalay paish karain.

Rahi baat mufassreen ki janab to sirf aik hasti ka naam laitaa hoon app unn ki fazzeelat aur un ka namm nasab apnay ulma say poochiay gaa phir main app ko unn ka musaddiqa hawala baad main paish kar doon ga abhi sirf naam(Hazrat Imam Jaffar Saadiq) bin Imam Baqir bin Imam Zainulabideen bin Imam Hussain bin Hazrat Imam Ali RA)to sahib yeh hai wo hasti jo iss ayat ki muffassar hai baqi app pay hai kay chahay to Ahlay Bait ki tafseer ko sahi maan lain yaa deegar amm ulmaa ki?....................


aap in ka hawala zaror paish karain. apko dalel dainay ka haq hai. mager pehlay ap unka jawab tu dejye jo hum nay kye. ap nay kaha kay qurani aayat per main mufasiren kay hawalay nahi manta. halankay us main mufasiren nay clear eman e abu talib per behs ki hai.

dosri bat. kay tayib bhai nay bhi kaha hai kay ap nay ahades ka jawab nahi diya. main nay apni pehli post main aik hades aur us par muhadisen ki tasrehat paish ki hain.
hadees yeh hai.
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ap ager muhadisen ki tasrehat ko nahi mantay tu kam az kam hades ko tu maan lejiye.. kya is hades kay sahi honay main apko shaq hai? ager hai tu kis bunyad per? aur kya is hades sey clear eman e abu talib ka hukm malom nahi ho raha?


Muhtram yeh behas khatam nai hoo sakti kuinkay yeh Shanay Nubowat ko bashar manwanay ki saazish ki aik kari hai kay agar agar Mutalabi deen Huq saabit hoo gia to Noor Nabi SAAW saabit hoota hai Kuinkay noor ka ka zahoor hamaisha rub pak aur mutahir salboon say hi hua karta hai kafiir jaisay napaak sulboon say nahi,
Jiss hasti ka main nay zikar kia hai ussi kay baray main Ala Hazrat Rehmatulla nai hi kaha (bacha bachaa noor ka )to yeh ussi noori gharaanay ka noori farzand hai daikhna yeh hai kay app kiss ki baat ko ziada huq samajhtay hain noor ki ya ghairay noor ki?agar samjhain to main hawala paish karoon......


tu ap eman e abu talib per aaqa (saw) ke noor ko sabit kerna chahtay hain. hazrat. Aaqa (saw) bay shak pak batano say hotay howay aye hain. aur apkay walid aur walda (raa) tu ailan e nabowat say pehlay is dunya say tashref lay gaye. ap yeh bayan sunye apko eman lanay aur na lanay ki haqeqat ka ilm hoga.

Azmat-e-Waldain-e-Mustafa (saw) part 1
Azmat-e-Waldain-e-Mustafa (saw) part 2

aur aalahazrat (ra) kay kalam ka ap keh rahay hain kya unko yah ilm na tha kay is kalam aur eman e abutalib per kutub o fatwa main tasadam ho jaye ga? aur aisa hargiz nahi hai. aalahazrat ka bayan aur amal aik jaisa tha. aur unka koi kalam aur kitab quran o sunnat kay khilaf nahi hai. aur aaj tak najdi wahabi bhi, jo alahazrat ka naam sun ker jal jatay hain. apnay bey tukay fatwo say sabit nahi kar sakay.

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Posted 12 June 2007 - 02:48 AM

(bis)

(salam)

TAFSEER OF AYAT NO:28 OF SURAH-E-ALE IMRAAN:

شان نزول: حضرت عباس بن عبد اللّٰہ رضی اللّٰہ عنہ روایت کرتے ہیں کہ حضرت عبادہ ابنِ صامت رضی اللّٰہ عنہ (جو کہ نہایت متقی اور پرھیزگار اور بدری اصحابی تھے) کا مدینہ منورہ کے رہنے والے یہودیوں کے ساتھ وفاداری کا معا ہدہ کیا ہوا تھا (جو شرعآ اس وقت تک منع نہیں تھا) جب سیدِ عالم صلی اللّٰہ علیہ وآلہ وسلّم جنگ احزاب کے لیے مدینہ منورہ سے باہر نکلے تو حضرت عبادہ ابنِ صامت رضی اللّٰہ عنہ نے عرض کیا کہ یاا رسول اللّٰہ علیہ وآلہ وسلّم میرے ساتھ پانچسو یہودی ہیں جو میرے معا ہدے میں ہیں میری رائے ہے کہ میں دشمن کے مقابل ان سے مدد حاصل کروں اس پر یہ آیت کریمہ نازل ہوئی اور کافروں کو دوست اور مدد گار بنانے کی ممانعت فرمائی گئ

(TAFSEER-E-QURTABEE PAGE NO: 58 , JILD NO: 4)


KAASHI BHAI, AAP YE BATAYEN K ABU TAALIB KAA INTIQAAL HIJRAT SE PAHILE HUWAA THAA, YAA BA'AD MAIN. YAQEENAN TUMHARAA JAWAAB HOGAA K "HIJRAT SE PAHILE". TO PHIR BHAI KAAFIRON K SAATH MAIL JOL RAKHINE KEE MUMAANI'AT HIJRAT K CHOTHE SAAL HUEE HAY (ABU TAALIB KI WAFAAT K TAQREEBAN 6 SAAL BA'D). AAP YE AYAT EMAAN-E-ABU TAALIB K LIYE NAHIN PAISH KAR SAKITE. JAB B AAP SABOOT K LIYE KOEE AYAT DEN, TO KAM IZ KAM PAHILE YE DEKH LIYAA KAREN K IS KAA SHAAN-E-NUZOOL KIYAA HAY, AUR KAB NAAZIL HUEE THEE :lol:

(salam)

Edited by SHAH SHAREER MELE WALA, 12 June 2007 - 03:12 AM.

یہ دیِن سیِد عالم کی خدمت کی سعادت ہے
کہ دنیا بھرمیں مشہورمسلک اعلٰیحضرت کا
امام احمدرضا سے جلتے ہیں جونام کے سید
انہیں بھاری پڑیگا حشر میں دعویٰ سیادت کا


شاہ آلِ رسول حسنین نظمی میاں قادری برکاتی

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 07:43 PM

Salam Alaikum,

Baradraan-e-azeez maine abhi ye topic dekha, ye masala itna pechida nahi hai jitna isko bana diya hai tamaam muslim hazraat ke paas ek Quraan aur ek Rasool (saw) hain magr maktab-e-fikr kai hain aur sab apne ko haq par batate hain (jo muhaal hai)
Haq par to koi ek hi hoga ?
Ikhtilaf ki wajah bazahir jo nazar aati hai wo ye ki sabne Quraan aur seerat-e-Rasool (saw)ki tashreh apne hisab se ki. natija, jitne munh utni batein,yahan ye baat wazeh karna zaroori hai ki har aire ghaire ko mazhab ke bare me bolne ka haq nahi hai mazhab par baat wahi kar sakte hain jinka tamaam uloom nahi to kam az kam chand uloom par to ehata hona hi chahiye aur aise hazraat har daur me hote hain mai yahan ahl-e-sunnat aalim sheikh-ul-islam janab tahir qadri sb. ka zikr karna chahonga aap hazraat bhi yaqinan unki shakhsiyat aur ilm se bakhoobi waqif hoongay.
unki ek taqreer kay link de raha hoon jo isi mauzoo se mutaliq hai lehaza ta-as-sub ki ainak utar kar allah ki ata ki hui aqal ki roshni me faisla kerein ki Janab-e-Abu Talib kya hain.

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Posted 22 January 2009 - 09:58 PM

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PEHLAY TO APNA MAZHAB BAYAN KARAIN. PHIR USSI HAWALAY SAY YAHAN BAAT KARAIN. JISS KO APP AHLESUNNAT KA ALIM KEH RAHAY HAIN , HUM AHLESUNNAT WA JAMAAT USSAY APNA ALIM HI NAHI MANTAY, GUMRAH MANTAY HAIN, TO AIK GUMRAH KI BAAT HARAY LYE HUJJAT NAHI, HAAN UN SHIOON KAY LYE HOGI TO USSAY SHEIKH UL ISLAM MANTAY HAIN.

HAMARA AQEEDA KYA HAI EMAN E ABU TALIB KAY HAWALAY SAY TO PEHLAY APNA NICK CHAGE KARAIN, APPNAY APP KO ZAHIR KARAIN. BAAD MAIN ISS TOPIC PER BAAT HOGI

حضرت سواد بن قارب رضی اللہ تعالی عنہ کا قصیدہ


فاشھد ان اللہ لا شیئ غیرہ
و انک مامون علی کل غائب
و انک ادنی المرسلین شفاعۃ
الی اللہ یا ابن الاکرمین الاطائب
فکن لی شفیعا یوم لا ذو شفاعۃ
سواک بمغن عن سواد بن قارب


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Posted 23 January 2009 - 09:38 PM

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Posted 24 January 2009 - 12:40 AM

Salam alaikum,
janab jad dul mukhtar
sb. Aap ka jawab dene se pehle mai ye wazeh kar doon ki is forum par meri amad ittefaaq se hui maine

youtube par dr. tahir qadri sb ka ek video dekha jisme unhone diwaan-e-abu talib ka zikr kara aur

majme ko dikhaya bhi taqreer sunne ke baad maine google par "diwan-e-abu talib search kara jo

mujhe forum ke is topic par le aaya yahan maine dekha ki jis mauzo par maine dr. tahir qadri sb ki


taqreer suni hai uspar bahes chiri hui hai lehaza maine us taqreer ke link yahan daal diye taki jo log


bahes kar rahe hai wo bhi us taqreer ko dekh lein mujhe is baat ka eteraaf karne me koi muzaeqa


nahi ki mai dr. Tahir qadri sb se kafi mutassir hoon forum me mera maqsad kisi se seengh larana


hargiz nahi. doosre agar aisi bahes se hamari jannat ya jahannum tai hota ho to bahes ka faeda bhi


hai jahan tak mera tajurba hai in mubahiso ka koi hal nahi nikalta aur khamakha baradraan me doori


barh jati hai mai aap ka jawab dena zaroori nahi samajhta lekin kyon ki aaj mere pass waqt hai is liye jawab de raha hoon.

Jawab:-

Aap ne apne hisab se 10 batein kahi hai jo dar haqiqat 8 hain



Pehli baat me aap ne farmaya ki mere nick ke meaning sahi nahi hain.

Aap ki baat se mujhe dili sukoon mila aur laga ki mai apne maqsad me kaamyaab hoon.

Apni doosri baat me aap ne mujhe nick change karne ki salah di hai aur saath hi do sujjestion


aur de diye

To thora sa mai apne naam ke bare me aap ko bata doon1983 me peri paidaesh par maa baap

ne mera naam HANUMAAN ........... rakha tha jo islam qabool karne ke baad kaheen to


HUMAYON................ (yahan maine kisi maslahet ki bina par apna hindu aur muslim name

poora nahi likha hai ) ho gaya aur kaheen aaj bhi HANUMAAN ............... hi darj hai jaise


hamare khandani pandit jo banaras me hain unki patriyoon aur hamari wanshawali (shajra) me

aaj bhi mera naam Hanuman ............. hi hai

"Mohammad" naam mujhe un imam sb. ne diya jinhone kalma parhaya aur saath hi is naam ki


fazilat aur martaba bhi bataya aaj wo is duniya me nahi hain lekin unke alfaaz meri yaad dasht


me mehfooz hain (Beta ye jo naam maine tumko diya hai ye koi mamooli naam nahi hai ye


hamare sab se bare nabi ka naam hai iski laaj hamesha baqi rakhna aur ek behtireen insaan


banna kyonki ek achha insaan hi sachha musalmaan hota hai) iske alawa bhi unhone bahot kuch

bataya jiska zikr yahan be maani hai.

Janab cyber space ki is duniya me chat room se lekar forums tak hamara waasta badtareen aur


behtareen insano se parta hai lehaza mai "mohammad" ke bajaye "mohd" ka istemaal karta hoon

taki agar koi mujhe bura bhala kahe to baat "mohd" tak hi rahe aur mai "mohammad" jaise


azeem aur mubarak naam ki tawheen ka sabab na banoo.

Yahan ek sawaal aur paida hota hai ki jab mujhe is naam ke ehteraam ki itni fikar hai to kisi aur


naam ka intekhaab kyon nahi kara taki koi jhagra hi na rahe to uski wajah ye hai ki ye mera


pasandeeda naam hai lehaza apni naqis aqal ke hisaab se mujhe yahi option munasib laga jisme


ehteraam bhi rahe aur meri chahat bhi poori ho jaye.isko aap meri nadani kam aqli jo chahe


kahen.mai nick change nahi karoonga aap chahein to mujhe ban kar dein baharhaal aap


moderator hain.

rahi baat aapke sujjestion ki to uska mai shukar guzaar hoon.




Apni teesri baat me aap ne dr. tahir qadri sb. par nishana sadha isme aap ki neyat unka mazaq urane

ki rahi ho ya be izzati karne ki mujhe aap ke dil ka haal nahi maloom.

Jitna mai dr. tahir qadri sb. ke bare me janta hoon wo ye ki unki 1000 ya isse zyada kitabein


manzar-e-aam par aa chuki hain iske alawa unhone islami uloom par saikroon lectures diye hai


jiska dil chahe dekh ya sun le rozana Q tv par bhi unke lectures ka mushaheda kiya ja sakta hai.

Unki shakhsiyat jaisi bhi hai sabke saamne hai lehaza is par is se zyada kuch nahi kahoonga





Chauthi baat me aap ne apni doosri baat ki takraar ki hai shayad aap ko apni hi baat me wazn kam


lag raha hoga

Mera jawab upar likha hai phir se parh lein.




Paanchwi baat me aap ne mujse mera mazhab daryaft kara hai aur saath hi ek mashwara aur enayat


farmaya hai

Janab mai bata doon ki mai pushtaini musalmaan nahi hoon mera talluq hindustaan ke rajput


gharane se raha hai aur kuch hi arsa huwa hai ki maine islam qabool kara hai.

Yahan mai is baat ki wazahat karna zaroori samajhta hoon ki maine tahir qadri sb. ke luctures


sunkar ya unki kitabein parh kar islam qabool nahi kara hai balki islam qabool karne ki wajah


quraan aur zaat-e-rasool(saw)hai.jo aaj bhi zehen-e-insani par apni amit chaap chorti hai.

2005 yani islam qabool karne se pehle mujhe hindu mazhab ki kuch batoon se itminaan nahi


hota tha aur shayad yahi talaash mujhe doosre mazhab ki janib le gayi maine Quran ka


translation parha aur jis baat ne mujhe sabse pehle apni taraf kheencha wo sura-e-insaan ki


ki shuroo ki ayaat hain.

Ye bhi batata chaloon ki jab mai hindu tha to mujhe sirf itna maloom tha ki jis mazhab ke taraf


mera rujhaan ho raha hai wo islam hai hanafi humbali shia maleki sha-fei deobandi barelvi


waghairah mujhe bahoot baad me pata chala aur jab pata chala to mai ek baar phir apne ko


kai rahoon wale maqaam par khara paa raha tha.

Mai phir se shak o shubhe me mubtala ho gaya lehaza apne shak ko dur karne ke liye maine


taqreeban har maslak ke aalim se baat kari jisme kuch ne to sab ko sahi bataya aur kuch ne sirf

apne ko sahi bataya jis se meri mushkil hal hone kay bajaye aur barh gayi.

Fil-haal to mera rabeta hanafi maslak se hai lehaza aap mujhe fiqh-e-hanafi ka manne wala


shumaar karein.

(lekin dil me jo itmenaan hona chahiye wo abhi bhi mehsoos nahi hota is waqt forum par reply


karte huwe bhi meri aankhoon se aanso beh rahe hai aur rabbul aalmeen se yahi dua hai ki


mujhe sahi rasta dikha de mai ek adna insaan hoon mustaqbil dekhna mere bas me nahi ki mai


bata sakaao ki meri talaash aur koshish mujhe kahee aur le jayegi ya isi maslak (hanafi) par baqi

rakhe gi)

Aap ke ek aur sujjestion ke liye mai ek baar phir se shukar guzar hoon.




Chati baat me aap ne tamaam ahlesunnat hazraat ki qayadat apne haath me le li aur faisla suna diya

ki falan gumrah hai.mai khawab me bhi nahi soonch sakta tha ki is forum par pehle din, pehli


post me,meri mulaqaat itni zabardast aur paye ki hasti se ho jayegi jiske haath me tamaam


ahl-e-sunnat wal jamaat hazraat ki qayadat ho aur saath hi faisla sunane ka haq bhi


Subhan-Allah.


Aap tahir qadri sb. ko gumrah maante hai, theek hai.

Lekin aalame-islam ki in azeem hastiyoon ke bare me aap ki rai kya hai jinko tahir qadri sb.


ne apne lecture me code kiya hai.

1-imam ibn-e-jareer tabari 2-imam behaqi 3-imam ibn-e-aseer 4_imam ibn-e- kaseer


5-imam ibn-e-asakir 6-al maqrizi 7-imam tabari 8-imam jalalud-deen seyouti


9-imam ostulani 10-imam halabi 11-imam ibn-e-hajar askalani


12-imam shahristani 13-allama balazari 14-allama ahmad zahni dahlaan


15-ibn-e-abdul bar 16-imam sohaili 17-imam tabrani 18-imam askalani

19-hazrat-e-abu moosa ashari 20-imam hakim 21-imam behaqi


22-hafiz ibn-e-kaseer 23-imam abu nuaim esfahani 24-allama shami


25-imam shamsuddin zahabi 26-imam ibn-e-saad


27-imam askalani ibn-e-hajar askalani 28-ibn-e-jauzi 29-abu yousuf shami


30-imam burhanud-deen halabi 31-sheikh abdul haq mohaddis dehlavi


32-allama ibn-e-khaladoon



Aur in kitabo ke bare me janab ki kya rai hai kyonki tahir qadri sb. ne apne lecture me in

kitabo ko bhi code kara hai.

1-tareekh-ul-kamil 2-sahih bukhari 3-as-sunanul kubra 4-al khasa-es-al-kubra

5-seerat-e-halabiya 6-al minan wan nehal 7-al-jame-as-sahi 8-dalael-an-naboowat


9-al bedaya wan nehaya 10-fathul bari 11-at -tamheed 12-al-moajam al kabeer


13-jame tirmizi 14-musnnaf ibn-e-abi shara 15-subulul huda 16-al esaba


17-safwatul suffa 18-tabaqaat ibn-e-saad 19-tareekh-e-damish kas kabeer


20-seerat-e-halabi

Ye sab mujhe yahan majboran is liye likhna para kyonki mujhe lagta hai ki aap kisi gumrah ki


taqreer to dekhna ya sunna pasand nahi kareingay


(albatta ye meri naqis aqal ko lagta hai mumkin hai aap taqreer dekh ya sun lein)

. Iske alawa agar aap in sawaloon ka jawab bhi enayat farma dein to mujhe khushi hogi



*Uloom e islami par janab ki research kitne saloon ki hai aur kin uloom me janab ko


maharat hasil hai ?

*Janab ki ab tak kitni kitabein manzar-e-aam par aa chuki hain ?

*Ahl-e-sunnat wal jamaat ki taraf se farmaan jari karne ka haq janab ko kis ne diya ?

*Islam ki tarweej ke liye janab ne ab tak kitne bunyadi aur asasi kaam anjaam diye hain?

*kya Q tv ka intezamiya bhi gumrah hai kyonki wo ek gumrah ko plateform faraham kara

raha hai ?

*Agar janab hindustaan me hain to kya mai janab se ru ba ru mulaqaat kar sakta hoon ?



Waise ye aap par depend karta hai ki aap jawab de ya nahi kyonki mai aap se jawab


talabi karne ke liye authorized nahi hoon phir bhi agar maloom ho jaye to meri khush naseebi

hogi.




Saatwi baat me aap un logon ko beech me le aaye jinka is baat me koi beech hi nahi.

Lehaza is bare me kya likhoon






Aathwein baat me aap ne apni doosri aur chauthi baat teesri baar phir kahi shayad wazn abhi bhi


kam lag raha hoga

Janab mera jawab upar likha hai phir se parh lein.aur aap ka aqeeda jaan kar mujhe kya milega


aap ka aqeeda aap ko mubarak.




Nawi baat me aap ne hukm diya hai ki apne ko zahir karoo

Is bare me mai upar likh chuka hoon






Daswi baat me aap ne is topic par mazeed baat karne ki peshkash ki hai

Is bare me mai apna stand us wazahat me likh chuka hoon jo jawab se pehle aap ki khidmat


me pesh ki hai lehaza wahan se matlab nikal lein doosre alfaaz me kahoon to mujhe isme koi

khaas dil chaspi nahi.



Was-salam









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