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#1 Qadri

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Posted 04 June 2008 - 11:11 PM

(salam) JANAB MUJY EK HADEES K BARY MEIN PATA KARNA HAY BAHOT DINO SAY PARISHAN HON KISI NAY BHI TAFSILE JAWAB NAHI DEYA ....AGER KISI K PASS INFO HAY TO PLZ HELP KARIN MERA KUCH DIN PEHLY GM SAY BAAT HUE THE...JIS KO MEIN NAY YEH HADES SUNAI...

NABI (saw) NAY FARMAYA Baishak Allah Azwajal ne Ambiya-e-Ikram as.gif ke ijsam ka khana zameen per haram farma diya to wo zinda hain aur unhai Rizk diya jata hai (Ibn-e-Maja)
WOH YEH BOL RAHA HAIN K YEH HADES ZAIF HAY PHIR MEIN NAY AS KO SAHA SITTA SAY HAWAL DEYA AUR abu dawood....kitab us salat...bab "FAZAL YOM E JUMA WA LALAT UL JUMA...... JILD 1...SAFA(PG NO) 275....HADIS NUMBER 1047 YEH BHI DEYA WOH YEH BOLTE HAIN K YEH HADEES ZAIF HAY....AUR RAVI BAYAN KARNE WALA ZAIF HAY JABHI SAHI SANAT K SATH HONE CHAHE HADEES.......AUR GM BOL RAHE HAIN K SAHI MUSLIM AUR SAHI BUKHARI K AILAWA OR JITNI BHI AHDEES HAIN UN MEIN KUCH ZAIF AUR KUCH SAHI HADES HAIN.......JAB MEIN NAY KISI DOST SAY PATA KARA TO AS NAY BOLA K YEH HADEES BUKHARI MEIN BHI HAY... AS DOST NAY BOLA K BUKHARI AUR MUSLIM MEIN BHI ZAIF HADES HAIN TO WOH GM GUSSA HO GAYA AUR BOLA K TOUBA KARO TUM NAY NABI PAK PE NGLI UTHAI HAY TOUBA KARO KIYON K SAHI MUSLIM AUR BUKHARI MEIN KOI ZAIF HADES NAHI HAY...HAY TO PESH KARO KOUN SI RIVAYAT ZAIF HAIN AN MEIN ? AB APP MERY 2 KAAM KARIN PLZ EK TO YEH HADEES SAHI HAY UPER JO HAY .....YEH BATAIN YEH HADEES SAHI HAY TO KESAY SABIT KARON MEIN AUR 2ND SAHI MUSLIM AUR BUKHARI MEIN KOI HADEES ZAIF HAY TO PLZ WOH PESH KARIN TAKE MEIN AN KA MU BAND KAR SAKHON PLZ JAZAK ALLAH FAST REPLY

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 04:22 PM

(salam) JANAB MUJY EK HADEES K BARY MEIN PATA KARNA HAY BAHOT DINO SAY PARISHAN HON KISI NAY BHI TAFSILE JAWAB NAHI DEYA ....AGER KISI K PASS INFO HAY TO PLZ HELP KARIN MERA KUCH DIN PEHLY GM SAY BAAT HUE THE...JIS KO MEIN NAY YEH HADES SUNAI...

NABI (saw) NAY FARMAYA Baishak Allah Azwajal ne Ambiya-e-Ikram as.gif ke ijsam ka khana zameen per haram farma diya to wo zinda hain aur unhai Rizk diya jata hai (Ibn-e-Maja)
WOH YEH BOL RAHA HAIN K YEH HADES ZAIF HAY PHIR MEIN NAY AS KO SAHA SITTA SAY HAWAL DEYA AUR abu dawood....kitab us salat...bab "FAZAL YOM E JUMA WA LALAT UL JUMA...... JILD 1...SAFA(PG NO) 275....HADIS NUMBER 1047 YEH BHI DEYA WOH YEH BOLTE HAIN K YEH HADEES ZAIF HAY....AUR RAVI BAYAN KARNE WALA ZAIF HAY JABHI SAHI SANAT K SATH HONE CHAHE HADEES.......AUR GM BOL RAHE HAIN K SAHI MUSLIM AUR SAHI BUKHARI K AILAWA OR JITNI BHI AHDEES HAIN UN MEIN KUCH ZAIF AUR KUCH SAHI HADES HAIN.......JAB MEIN NAY KISI DOST SAY PATA KARA TO AS NAY BOLA K YEH HADEES BUKHARI MEIN BHI HAY... AS DOST NAY BOLA K BUKHARI AUR MUSLIM MEIN BHI ZAIF HADES HAIN TO WOH GM GUSSA HO GAYA AUR BOLA K TOUBA KARO TUM NAY NABI PAK PE NGLI UTHAI HAY TOUBA KARO KIYON K SAHI MUSLIM AUR BUKHARI MEIN KOI ZAIF HADES NAHI HAY...HAY TO PESH KARO KOUN SI RIVAYAT ZAIF HAIN AN MEIN ? AB APP MERY 2 KAAM KARIN PLZ EK TO YEH HADEES SAHI HAY UPER JO HAY .....YEH BATAIN YEH HADEES SAHI HAY TO KESAY SABIT KARON MEIN AUR 2ND SAHI MUSLIM AUR BUKHARI MEIN KOI HADEES ZAIF HAY TO PLZ WOH PESH KARIN TAKE MEIN AN KA MU BAND KAR SAKHON PLZ JAZAK ALLAH FAST REPLY


(salam)
Bhai main aik kam ilm insaan hon maghar app unn say aik baat pochain ke app ke pass kiya saboot hai ke Bukhari aur Muslim shareef ki tamam Ahadith sahi hain ?
Dosra yeh ke yeh logh Imam ke peechay namaz mein Surah Fatiha party hain aur Bukhari aur Muslim ki Za'eef Hadith ka sahara laity hain ke Nabi Kareem (saw) ne irshaad farmaya uss shaks ki namaz kamil nahi jiss ne surah fatiha nah parhi.
Wahabion ke Muhadith Hazraat mein Sheik Ibn-e-Teemiya ne Apne Fatwa mein Fatwa number 555 mein likha hai '' Muqtadi ka imam ke sath parna Quran-o-Sunnat say manah hai aur muqtadi ka imam ki qeerat ke waqt khamosh rehna Quran ki Daleel-e-Qat'ee say sabit hai aur mazeed likhty hain jaisa ke Hadith mein aya hai ke Joo Imam ke khutba Jummah ke waqt kalaam karta hai woh Gadhy (Donkey) ki tarha hai jo bojh uthata hai ''...
Isse tarha likhty hain '' Jo Imam ki qira'at ke waqt qira'at karta hai aur Imam ka Surah Fatiha ke baad taveel sakta karna jiss mein Surah Fatiha parhi jaa sakay bida'at hai '' (Majmoo'a Fatawa Ibn-e-Teemiya)

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 11:24 AM

Jazak allah bahi but yeh jo hades mein nay uper sawal mein likhi hay woh BUKHARI mein hay kia ya nahin ??

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 04:16 PM

Jazak allah bahi but yeh jo hades mein nay uper sawal mein likhi hay woh BUKHARI mein hay kia ya nahin ??


(salam)
Bhai yeh Hadith Shareef Ibn-e-Majah aur Mishkat Shareef mein hai app uss say iss ke za'eef hone ka saboot mangai.
Dosri baat yeh ke aghar woh Allah ke Nabyon ko zinda nahi manta tu uss ko Muslim shareef ki hadith sunain ke Rasool Allah (saw) ne irshaad farmaya ke Meeraj ki raat meine Hazrat Mussa Alaihe Salam ko apni qabr mein namaz parrty dekha kiya yeh hadith bhi za'eef hai ?
aur uss say pochain ke uss ke pass kiya saboot hai ke Bukhari aur Muslim mein koi nahi aur baqi tamam books mein za'eef ahadith hain ?
aur uss say za'eef hadith ki tareef pochain.
aur yeh bhi ke kya koi hadith za'eef hone say woh hadith mann gharat hoti hai ya hoti hee nahi ?

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Posted 09 June 2008 - 04:26 PM

Aur bhai aghar uss ka yeh Aitraaz hai ke Ambiya Alaihe Salam apni qabron mein zinda nahi tu uss ko yeh tamam Ahadith sunain aur aghar phir bhi woh kahai ke yeh bhi sabhi za'eef hain tu uss say saboot mangain.
iss topics mein yeh Fatwa par lain.
http://www.islamimeh...hain-t4048.html

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 10:44 AM

jazak allah bahi app ka bahot bahot

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Posted 11 June 2008 - 10:21 PM

Qadri bhai Hoo sakay tu bataye ga bhi ke phir kiya howa uss ke baad

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 12:06 AM

asalam-o-alikum
Meeraj ki raat meine Hazrat Mussa Alaihe Salam ko apni qabr mein namaz parrty dekha kiya yeh hadith bhi za'eef hai ? yeh baat mein nay wahabi ko boli woh bolne laga k yeh hadees dekhao kahan pe hay ? aur qaber ka word bhi dekho aur ager ager Mussa alaihe salam ager namaz apni qaber mein parh rahe the too mussa alaihe salam nay to nabi pak ko namaz kham karne ka kaha thaa ........to an ko nabi pak nay qaber mein kesay dekh leya ????aur woh bol rahe the k app Meeraj ka pora wakiyaa suno app ko khud samjh mein ajay ga ...aur quran ki ayat pesh kari k allah farma raha hay kjo shakis mar jata hay woh gal jata hay asi kuch the ..sahi tarhan yaad nahi. ...to sabit hua kyeh zaif hay ....reply plz

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 12:12 AM

asalam-o-alikum
Meeraj ki raat meine Hazrat Mussa Alaihe Salam ko apni qabr mein namaz parrty dekha kiya yeh hadith bhi za'eef hai ? yeh baat mein nay wahabi ko boli woh bolne laga k yeh hadees dekhao kahan pe hay ? aur qaber ka word bhi dekho aur ager ager Mussa alaihe salam ager namaz apni qaber mein parh rahe the too mussa alaihe salam nay to nabi pak ko namaz kham karne ka kaha thaa ........to an ko nabi pak nay qaber mein kesay dekh leya ????aur woh bol rahe the k app Meeraj ka pora wakiyaa suno app ko khud samjh mein ajay ga ...aur quran ki ayat pesh kari k allah farma raha hay kjo shakis mar jata hay woh gal jata hay asi kuch the ..sahi tarhan yaad nahi. ...to sabit hua kyeh zaif hay ....reply plz



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Posted 13 June 2008 - 10:48 AM

wahabi kharabi hay. :) isko kaho kese zayef hay.

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 06:16 PM

asalam-o-alikum
Meeraj ki raat meine Hazrat Mussa Alaihe Salam ko apni qabr mein namaz parrty dekha kiya yeh hadith bhi za'eef hai ? yeh baat mein nay wahabi ko boli woh bolne laga k yeh hadees dekhao kahan pe hay ? aur qaber ka word bhi dekho aur ager ager Mussa alaihe salam ager namaz apni qaber mein parh rahe the too mussa alaihe salam nay to nabi pak ko namaz kham karne ka kaha thaa ........to an ko nabi pak nay qaber mein kesay dekh leya ????aur woh bol rahe the k app Meeraj ka pora wakiyaa suno app ko khud samjh mein ajay ga ...aur quran ki ayat pesh kari k allah farma raha hay kjo shakis mar jata hay woh gal jata hay asi kuch the ..sahi tarhan yaad nahi. ...to sabit hua kyeh zaif hay ....reply plz


Bhai maine app say kaha tha uss ko Za'eef hadith ki tareef tu pochain uss ki marzi say har hadith za'eef tu nahi hoo jai gi na.
Dosri baat yeh batain ke kiya woh Allah ke Nabiyon ko Zinda nahi manta ?
aur uss say Quran ki uss ayat ka hawala mangy.
Phir yeh bhi pochain ke uss ke pass kiya saboot hai ke yeh Hadees za'eef hai ?
Aur aghar aise koi ayat hai bhi tu uss say yeh Hadith shareef kiss tarha za'eef hoo gai ?
Aur aghar yeh hadith uss ke mutabiq za'eef hai tu uss ke JHOOTA hone ka saboot mill gaya kyon ki ussi nai kaha tha ke Bukhari aur Muslim mein koi hadith za'eef nahi :rolleyes:
Aur uss ko batain ke Meeraj ki raat Huzoor (saw) Jannat aur Jahanum dono ko dekha app ne Allah Azawajal say mulaqat bhi farmai aur wahan kitna waqt laga yeh hum mein say koi bhi nahi soch sakta.
Main Hayaat-e-Ambiya per sirf 2 Ahadith pesh kar rahah on Attachment mein uss ko yeh sunain aur uss say pochain ke tum ne tu kaha tha Bukhari aur Muslim mein koi hadith za'eef hai hee nahi tu baqool tumhare Muslim ki woh hadith za'eef kiss tarha hoo gai ? aur yeh bhi kahain ke za'eef hone ka saboot tu do na ke tumhare kehne say har hadith za'eef tu nahi hoo jai gi na.

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 06:17 PM

Aur Qadri bhai app yeh Fatwa dekhain.

http://www.islamimeh...hain-t4048.html

Yeh tamam Ahadith note kar ke uss ko sunain aghar woh Hayat-e-Ambiya ka munkir hai aur aghar woh yeh kahai ke yeh Ahadith za'eef hain tu uss ko kahain ke saboot do. (ja)

Aur bhai yeh bhi zaror batain ke woh Ghair Muqalid Wahabi hai ya sirf Deobandi ?

Edited by Ghulam E Mustafa, 13 June 2008 - 06:33 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2008 - 06:46 PM


(bis)
Aslamoalikum Brother,


Aap ko aik baat bataon k ye wahabi Hadees Pak k bhe Munkir hote hein.Or Ma'azAllah apne taraf say bhe Hadees Pak khod bana kar paish karte hein.

Meri bhe wahabi say aik site per deabate hoi hai mein ap ko limk dayte hon.

Mein aap ko link dayte hon.Us mein aap ko kafi information hojae ge.
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Na Ban Saki hai,Na Ban Sakay ga Misaal Teri Jawaab Tera
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 06:48 PM

http://www.*********...a-209613-5.html

Here is the link
Yahan per mein ne kafi detail de hai.
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Edited by Sag-e-Attar, 14 June 2008 - 11:12 PM.
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Posted 13 June 2008 - 06:53 PM

Bhai i know inn logon say humari behas daily hoti hai aur Allah ke fazal say kafi Forums per say inn ko bhagna bhi parta hai saboot tu unn ke pass pehlay hee nahi hota bus apni hatt dharmi per aray rehty hain.
ohhh bhai yeh tu Nasir Noman hai yeh bechara har forum per jaa kar khudh ko bai-izzat karwata rehta hai aur yeh yahan IslamiMehfil per bhi hai laikin iss bechare ka zehan kuch thekh nahi kyon ki pocho kuch tu jawab kuch daita hai yeh thread check karain.

http://www.islamimeh...awal-t4043.html

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 08:12 PM

(allah farma raha hay kjo shakis mar jata hay woh gal jata hay asi kuch the ..sahi tarhan yaad nahi. )

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 09:01 PM


(bis)

Aslamolaikum brother Ghulame Mustafa,


Aap ne bilkul sahi farmaya.Mujhe is site ki link use say mile hai or mein ne ye join kya hai.Or ye bari achi site hai.He said "sister wahan per ap hi ki jaise cheat ho rahe hai".Nasir Noman shahib k paas koi answer hi nahi tha.I hate deobandis,wahabis ap pori link zaroor parhna or Mjhe baten k ye log itne proof dayne k bawajood apne zid per aa jate hein.Or isi link mein aik wahabi ne Bukhari Shareef Hadees ka inkaar itne asani se kar deye hai.

Mein akhir mein ye kahna chahon ge k jo Hadees Pak hi ka inkaar kare wo kia Muslim ho sakta he?

AlalhHafiz.




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Posted 13 June 2008 - 11:01 PM

Wa Alaikum Asalam Hanafi Muslima,
Sorry ajj kafi weeks say meray net ki speed nahi hoo rahi IslamiMehfil per bhi aik aik topic kafi time mein open hota hai tu mein uss ko read karta hon InsahAllah speed hotay hee mein woh pura topic zaror parhon ga.
Asal mein yeh logh apni passand ki Ahadith aur Qurani Ayaat ko parrtey bhi hain aur sunaatay bhi hein aur apni marzi say kisi bhi hadith ko za'eef keh daity hain.
Maghar inn ko Za'eef hadith ki tareef pocho tu bus....... KHAMOSHI!!!!!!!!!!!
Baat sirf itne hai ke jiss Haidth ya Quranic Verse mein meray Aqa Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa (saw) ki azmat-o-shaan bayaan hoo rahi ho yeh uss Quranic Ayat ka Tarjuma ghalat karain gai aur Hadith ko za'eef keh dain gai ya phir ajj kal aik naya fitna utha hai WAHABIYA ka unn ko jab Hazrat Muhammad Mustafa (saw) ke huzoor hazir hoo kar Allah Azawajal say muafi talab karne wali ayat sunain tu kehty hain ke yeh tu sirf Huzoor (saw) ki zindagi ke liye thi aur jab unn say pocha jai ke phir Quran mein say woh ayaat nikal do (Na'uzubillah) jo sirf Huzoor (saw) ki zindagi mubarika mein thi abb Na'uzubillah khatam hoo chuki hain tu KHAMOSHI!!!!!!! :)
Bus inn ka kuch nahi hoo sakta..... Allah inn ko hadayat ata farmai. Ameen!

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Posted 13 June 2008 - 11:33 PM

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Aslamoalikum brother Ghulame Mustafa,


Jee aap baad mein balke jab aap kay net ki speed fast ho jae ge tab zaroor parheye ga!Yahan per net really bohot slow hai.

Je aap ne bilkul sahi farmaya! ye to in ki marze hai ye apni asani k leye jis Hadees ka chahe inkaar kar dayte hein!

Kya inhein Ye nahi pata k Quraan Majeed Kiyamat tak aane wale sab Musalmano k leye Hidayaat ki Book hai.Phir ye kyoun kahte hein"ke yeh tu sirf Huzoor (saw) ki zindagi mubarika mein thi"Is ka mean yahi hai k ye muslim nahi is leye to Ayats Mubarika ka inkaar kar dayte hein.

Je Allah (azw) Inhein Hidayaat Farmae(Ameen Be Jahen Nabiyel Aamin (saw) )



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  • Interests:Islamic Literature & Forums
  • Madhab:Hanafi

Posted 14 June 2008 - 06:26 AM

Wa Alaikum Asalam Hanafi Muslima Sister,
Actually mera zyada pala iss fitne say Internet per hee para aur mein haira howa yeh sun kar ke falan verse sirf Huzoor (saw) ki zindagi mein thi aur falan bhi pehlay mein bhi kuch logon ki tarha yahi kehta tha ke yeh Barelvi/Deobandi & Wahabi Ekhtlaf sirf Ulama ke hain maghar jab maine inn ke aqaid parhai tu meray dil per kiya guzri main bata nahi sakta maghar ghalat hain woh logh jo kehty hain ke yeh sirf Ulama ke darmayan Ekhtlaf hai yeh har yeh har Musalman ko cahiye ke unn ke aqaid ko logon ke samne pesh karai aur har Musalman ko yeh cahiye ke Badmazhabon ke khilaf kam karai.
Allah hum sub ko iss ki taufeeq ata farmai...... AMEEN!





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