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Ahtelaam ke baad Ghusl karein ya sirf wuzu?


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#1 Bismillah

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 04:14 AM

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ek shaks ke aksar raat ko burey khial ki wajah se mani ke qatrey beh jatey hain aur kabhi to bohat zayada beh jatey hain, (shaed is amal ko ahtalam kehte hain) aissi sourat mein sirf us jaga ko aur jahan jahan pe qatrey lage hon us jaga ko pak kar k wuzu kiya jaey to namaz pard saktey hain

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Posted 08 October 2008 - 09:19 AM

Ji nahi aghar mani ke qatray nikal aain tu ghusal karna farz ho jata hai pehly gusal karain.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 02:35 AM

ghusal namaz ki shart nahi hai merey khial se, namaz ki to shart hai k, jism aur kapdey dono paak honey chahiey, agar koi napaki lagi ho kapdon par ya jism par to usey pani ke zariey paak bhi kar saktey hain bina ghusal kiey.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 11:37 AM

ghusal namaz ki shart nahi hai merey khial se, namaz ki to shart hai k, jism aur kapdey dono paak honey chahiey, agar koi napaki lagi ho kapdon par ya jism par to usey pani ke zariey paak bhi kar saktey hain bina ghusal kiey.


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janab naapkai se nijaat ke liye ghusl karna farz hai tabhi tahart hasil hogi...aap kehty hain ki sirf utna hissa dho lene se kaam chal jayega...to phir aap ye sochy ki shariyat me ghusl kis shay ka naam hai? kya garmi ke mosam mein paseeny se nijat ke liye bathroom me nahany ko ghusl kehty hain aap? jab napaki me bandy ghusl ki hajat nahin to phir kab hogi?

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 12:12 PM

Ji Asif bhai ne sahi kaha jab iss amal per banda ghusal nahi karai ga tu phir ghusal ki hajat kab ho gi.
aur aghar app ka jism napaak hai aur ghusal farz ho chuka hai tu app beshak 10 bar wozzo karain app paak nahi hon gai kyon ki paaki ke liye app ko ghusal karna hai ghusal ke faraiz ke sath.

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 12:25 PM

g mustaq bahi and asif bahi sahi keh rhay hain app

bahi gusl kerna farz hai

werna namaz b nahi hogae nahi qurani ayat ko hath laga sakti hain

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#7 Ghulam E Mustafa

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Posted 09 October 2008 - 12:42 PM

well mera name mustaq nahi hai :lol:

#8 Bismillah

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 04:25 AM

(salam)
Mera masla bilkul aissa hai jaissa k is link k andher bean kiya gaya hai,
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maine ek hadees mein para tha ke agar koi janabat ke baad foran wuzu kar le to wo jahanam ki aag se bach jaey ga ya phir wo jahanam ki aag nahi dekhey ga, (jis tara mujhe yaad hai). ab sawal peda hota hai k wuzu kyon? gusul kyon nahi, to merey khial se wuzu se insaan paak ho jata hai.
han wo baat apki sahi hai k ghusul se sara jism dhul jata hai, lekin mera sawal is mani ke barey mein hai jaissa k is link k andher batai gai hai.
mane to zayada kitabein nahi parien, agar aap mein se koi hadees bata de to masla jaldi hal ho jaey ga, lazmi nahi ke aap koi aissi hi hadees dhondey jis se mein galith sabit ho jaon, agar aap ko koi aissi hadees mil jati hai ya koi fatawa, jis mein bataya gya ho k wuzu se kam chal jata hai, beshak sawab kam hi kyon na ho. to kam az kam tasali to ho jaey gi, k pardi hui tamam qaza aur farz namazein ada ho gai hain.
ab to wo shaks latka hua hai. ek taraf aap kehte hain ke ghusul k bina jism paaki hi nahi hota, us taraf us ki phele se hi hazaron ke hisaab se qaza namazein rehti hai aur kuch pard bhi lee hain. issi tarah us ne kai maheeney phele namaz parni shuru ki thi aur am tor pe wohi azaan bhi deta hai.
wo aj tak yahi samjata raha hai k wuzu se jism paak ho jata hai.
han agar qatron ka masla agar week mein 1 bar hota to wo naha laita magar har dooserey din baad yahi masla to usey to har roz nahana parey ga.
ab to wo jab namaz parney k liey jata hai to chehra latka beth jata hai, uper se azaan bhi deta hai, agar aap sahi hain to us par to sab logon ka gunnah a gaya na, kyon k azaan wo deta hai aur azaan k bina to shaed namaz nahi hoti.
uper se uska aur masla hai jo abhi tak wo bhi hal nahi hua, ke koi hanfi kissi malilki ke peechey namaz pard sakta hai ke nahi? aissey aur bhi us k masail hain.

aissi halat mein uski maut hogai to shaed wo azab-e-qabar mein mubtalah ho jaey. kyon k pata nahi k pardi hui namazein hui hain ya nahi uper se qazaa namazein jo rehti hain.

Edited by Bismillah, 10 October 2008 - 04:29 AM.


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Posted 10 October 2008 - 12:18 PM

(salam)

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Edited by Faraz Madani, 10 October 2008 - 12:29 PM.


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Posted 10 October 2008 - 12:47 PM

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ek shaks ke aksar raat ko burey khial ki wajah se mani ke qatrey beh jatey hain aur kabhi to bohat zayada beh jatey hain, (shaed is amal ko ahtalam kehte hain) aissi sourat mein sirf us jaga ko aur jahan jahan pe qatrey lage hon us jaga ko pak kar k wuzu kiya jaey to namaz pard saktey hain


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ihtilam k bad Ghusal karna farz hai ghusal kar k hi namaz parni ho gi jazak Allah

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Posted 10 October 2008 - 03:35 PM

chalein theek hai, jaissa aap kehtey hain,
bataiey ke jo us ne aj tak farz aur qaza namazein ada ki, un ka kya? pehle to wo yahi samjata tha k wuzu se kam chal jata hai lekin taqreeban 1 week se usey pata chala k wuzu ki jaga par ghusul karna hoga. ab usey yaqeen nahi tha poora k aap sahi hai ya wo aur woh aissey hi qaza namazein parta raha aur farz bhi. to bataiey ke un saru namazon ka kya?

Edited by Bismillah, 10 October 2008 - 03:38 PM.


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Posted 11 October 2008 - 06:44 AM

Bhai mein kuch pochna cahta hon ke app ko sootay mein hee ehtlam hota hai na ya phir jaisy app ne peeshab kiya tu uss ke sath kuch qatray nikal jatay hain ? aghar peshab ke sath nikalty hain tu woh mani nahi hoti uss ko kuch aur kaha jata hai aur uss say sirf wozzo toot jata hai ghusal farz nahi hota per aghar sootay mein hota hai tu phir ghusal farz hoo gaya.

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Posted 11 October 2008 - 08:30 PM

Bhai mein kuch pochna cahta hon ke app ko sootay mein hee ehtlam hota hai na ya phir jaisy app ne peeshab kiya tu uss ke sath kuch qatray nikal jatay hain ? aghar peshab ke sath nikalty hain tu woh mani nahi hoti uss ko kuch aur kaha jata hai aur uss say sirf wozzo toot jata hai ghusal farz nahi hota per aghar sootay mein hota hai tu phir ghusal farz hoo gaya.


bhai zaid ka masla aissa hi hai jaissa k is link mein dooserey shaks ka hai.
http://i36.tinypic.com/2nakadx.gif

zaid ko ahtelaam nahi hota agar hota bhi hai to kai maheeno baad. agar ahtelaam ho jaey to wo ghusal kar laita hai, yeh masla nahi hai.

agar wo janabat se farigh hota hai to bhi wo ghusal kar laita hai, yeh bhi masla nahi

zaid khud-lazti ke liey burey khialat ko tasawur karta hai jiss ki wajah se us ki mani ke patley qatrey beh jatey hain, yeh masla hai. yani k lutf ke chand qatrey nikal atey hain.

Edited by Bismillah, 11 October 2008 - 08:32 PM.






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