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  1. Determining Reprehensible Innovation A Detail Explaination With Principle Guide.

    Introduction:


    It is very important for the Muslims to understand what an evil/reprehensible innovation in religion of Islam is and how to determine if a practice/custom or a tradition is evil innovation according to Islamic teaching. Typically it has been seen individuals with little to zero understanding of this subject issue edicts of Biddah/Innoation against Muslims. This article is designed to educate believers about methodology of determining evil innovation. I do not promise a simple read through will enable you to understand the subject comprehensively and properly but a study of this short article enable any and Muslim of every intellect level to determine if a practice is evil innovation or not. May Allah make this means of guidance for many.

    0.0 - Fundamental Definition Of Innovation:


    Reprehensible Innovation: (i) Any innovated practice/beleife without evidential support of Qur'an/Sunnah is reprehensible innovation. (ii) Any innovated practice/beleife not composed practices from Quran/Sunnah is reprehensible innovation.

    0.1 – Four Types Of Prophetic Sunnahs And Sunnah Of Righteous Caliphs:

    (i) Sunnah in here primarily is referrence to Sunnah of Prophet (peace be upon him) but is inclusive of Sunnah of righteous Caliphs. (ii) There are four types of Sunnahs: Qawli: Proven from statement of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam). Fehli: proven from actions of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam). Taqreeri: proven from acceptance of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam). Wasfi: Proven from qualities, characteristics, behavior of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam). (iii) And if a innovatved practice, custom, festivity is NOT composed of anyone, or mixture, or all of these types of prophetic Sunnahs then it is reprehensible innovation.

    1.0 - Explanation Of Fundamental Definition Of Innovation With :


    Principle OneA: Any innovated action/belief for which there is no explicit evidence from Qur’an or the Sunnah but it is done with the belief that it is explicitly part of deen - as instruction of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) mentioned in Quran, or prophetic Sunnah, then it is reprehensible innovation.

    Principle OneB: Any innovated action/belief for which there is no implicit evidence from Qur’an or the Sunnah but it is done with the belief that it is implicitly part of deen - as instruction of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) mentioned in Quran, or prophetic Sunnah, it is reprehensible innovation.


    1.1 - Difference Between Direction/Explicit And Indirect/Implict Evidence Explained:

    Explicit, or direct evidence is which clearly referrs to a practice. Jummah prayers – Ahadith proving it are explicitly evidence of Jummah prayers. Implicit, or indirect evidence would be evidence does not clearly referr practice but through deduction it can be turned toward it. Prophet (peace be upon him) used Siwak for Oral hygeine. Tooth brush and paste are no subsitute for the Sunnah but through deduction and rational process we can turn evidence of Siwak to justify usage of tooth brush and paste. Ahadith of Siwak when proving Sunnah-ness of Siwak are explicit/direct evidence but to establish permissibility of tooth brush/paste these Ahadith are implicit/indirect evidences. Ijtihad on things which have no explicit/direct mention in Quran/Sunnah is always turning explicit evidence through rational deductions to the matter and arriving at a conclusion.

    1.2 – How Things Are Directly And Indirectly Part Of Islam:

    Everything which Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) instructed in His book and everything Prophet (peace be upon him) taught as Deen in his Sunnah is directly/explicitly part of Islam. Every innovation which has implicit/indirect evidence, in other words Ijtihad supporting evidence, from Quran/Sunnah is indirectly/implicitly part of Islam because it has been composed of matters which are from Islam.


    2.0 – Innovation Against Teaching Of Islam Is Reprehensible:

    Principle Two: Any innovated action/belief that entirely, or partly is composed of which is against Qur’an & Sunnah but it is believed to be directly, or indirectly part of religion of Islam is reprehensible innovation.

    2.0 – Explanation Of Innovation Composed Of Against Quran/Sunnah:

    All that is Haram, Kufr, Shirk is against teaching of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and if a innovation is composed of engaging in acts of Haram, Kufr, or affirming Shirk as belief then such innovation is reprehensible. If a innovation is partly good and partly transgression then Hukm (injuction) remains same, it is reprehensible, until transgression against religion is not removed from it. And if such reprehsible innovation is deemed to be explicitly part of Islam, or implicitly then it is greater sin then it was.

    3.0 – Principle Of Adding, Omitting, Altering Teaching Of Quran/Sunnah:

    Principle Three: Adding, Altering, and/or omitting anything from the Qur’an & Sunnah of our beloved Prophet (peace be upon him) is reprehensible innovation.

    3.1 - Three Principles Of Adding, Deleting, And Altering:

    Following three will explain principle three much better: (i) Adding anything as teaching of Qur’an, or Sunnah of RasoolAllah (peace be upon him) for which there is no evidential support is reprehensible innovation. (ii) Altering anything mentioned in Qur’an or Sunnah of RasoolAllah (peace be upon him) for which there is no evidential support is reprehensible innovation. (iii) Deleting anything from teaching of Qur’an or Sunnah of beloved Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) for which there is no evidential support is reprehensible innovation. Only exception to this is Ijtihad of a Mujtahid.

    3.2 - Explaining How Additions Can Be Made:
     
    (i) Adding words/actions to regulated acts of worship. Example of this would be adding extra prostrations; performing three prostrations instead of two. Or reciting a additional phrase (i.e. Qul huwallahu ahad) to what is recited in prostration (i.e. subhana rabbiyal a'ala). (ii) Adding a belief/practice into Islam as Sunnah. Considering Yoga as Sunnah, or believing in reincarnation etc. (iii) Adding by enacting a reprehensible action with belief it is permissible/impermissible in Islam. If the person considered it impermissible but it became a custom/practice and fallowed after him then its reprehensible innovation otherwise its sin. (iv) Adding by believing a reprehensible belief with conviction it is permissible in Islam.  One such belief is of the anthropomorphists who believe in yaddullah in haqqiqi (literal) meanings. They believe in Hand of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) yet Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is without likeness to His creation recorded in Surah 42 Verse 11: “... laysaka misli shai'ee ...” (“... there is nothing like Him ...”).

    3.3 - How Alterations Can Be Made To Teaching Of Islam:

    (i) Altering regulated acts of worship by performing something first which was to be practiced after. Performing Sajdah (prostration) before Ruku (bowing) in prayers. (ii) Altering regulated acts of worship by reciting something first which was to be recited after. Reciting Surah Fatiha in Sajdah.

    3.4 - Explanation Of How Omissions Can Be Made:


    (i) Omission of actions from regulated acts of worship. Not turning right/left to greet in prayers with words, 'As'salamu alayqum wa rahmatullah.' Instead repeating it twice looking toward Qibla. (ii) Omission of recitation which is fundamentally part of regulated act of worship. Omitting of Salawat Ibrahimi: “Allahumma salli ala Muhammediv wa a'ala a'ali Muhammediv kama sal'laee ta'ala Ibrahima wa a'ala a'ali Ibrahima in'naka hameedum majeed. ...” (iii) Omission of anything from Qur’an, Sunnah by rejecting it without just basis. Believing that parts of Quran have been omitted as certain apostates of Shia'ism believe. Or rejecting a Sahih Hadith which is accepted by the Ummah as whole to be authentic.

    4.0 – Principle Of Praiseworthy Innovation Believed As Part Of Revealed Islam:

    Principle Four: Any praiseworthy innovation for which there is implicit evidence from Qur’an or the Sunnah but it is done with the belief that it is explicitly part of Islam (as in part of Islam revealed to Prophet) it is reprehensible innovation.

    4.0 – Explaning How PraiseWorthy Innovation Becomes Part Of Revealed Islam:

    To believe modern way of celebrating/comemorating Mawlid of Prophet (peace be upon him) was taught in Quran, or is a prophetic Sunnah would be a reprehensible innovation. This rule applies to all practices of Isaal al-Sawab (sending rewarding) such as Geeyarweenh, Teeja - 3rd Day congregational supplication, Chaleewas - 40th Day congregational supplication, Jummah Raat Khatam – Supplication on every Thursday before sunset etc.

    5.0 – Principle To Believe In Impermissibility Of Praiseworthy Innovation:

    Principle Five: To believe Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and Prophet (peace be upon him) have prohibited and have not permitted the Muslims to introduce praiseworthy innovations itself is a reprehensible innovation.

    5.1 - Explaning Why Such  Belief Itself Is An Reprehensible Innovation:

    Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and Prophet (peace be upon him) perfect and completed religion of Islam with its teachings and guiding principles - Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) said: “Today, I have perfected your religion for you, and have completed My blessing upon you, and chosen Islam as Deen (religion and a way of life) for you.” [Ref: 5:3] And part of these principles is teaching that Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) will reward any who innovates a good Sunnah introduced in Islam. Therefore to censor good innovations and to say they are sinful and take to hell-fire is rejecting the perfection/completion of Quranic and prophetic teachings.  It also amounts to rejection of teaching of prophetic Sunnah as such it is an innovation.

    5.2 - Providing Evidence For Innovative Prasieworthy Innovations:

    (i) Prophet (peace be upon him) is reported to have said: “Thereupon Allah's Messenger said: He who introduced some good Sunnah in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect” [Ref: Muslim, B34, H6466] Here the word Sunnah is in its linguistic meaning and not Shar’ri meaning. Meaning word Sunnah does not referr to prophetic Sunnahs and if you do believe phrase good Sunnah refers to prophetic Sunnah pay attention to the following where evil Sunnah in Islam is referrence to innovative evil Sunnahs: “And he who introduced some evil Sunnah in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others) he would be required to bear the burden like that of one who followed this (evil practice) without their's being diminished in any respect.” [Ref: Muslim, B34, H6466] Does this phrase referr to evil Sunnahs of Prophet (peace be upon him)? No! (ii) Prophet (peace be upon him) used word Sunnah to referr to evil innovation of murdering started by son of Prophet Adam (alayhis salam😞 "Whenever a person is murdered unjustly, there is a share from the burden of the crime on the first son of Adam for he was the first to start the Sunnah (tradition) of murdering." [Ref: Bukhari, B55, H552] Innovation is which did not exist before it originated. Once it originates renewal of an innovation does not mean it has origiated newly. In this light it can be seen that here the word Sunnah is used to mean innovation. (iii) It is undeniable innovation is not already part of Islam. What is already part of Islam we/none can introduce in Islam as an innovation. This Hadith and many more like it reveal reward is for something which is NOT already part of Islam, i.e. innovation, and blame of sin is for something not already declared to be sinful:“Thereupon Allah's Messenger said: He who introduced some good Sunnah in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect And he who introduced some evil Sunnah in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others) he would be required to bear the burden like that of one who followed this (evil practice) without their's being diminished in any respect.” [Ref: Muslim, B34, H6466]

    6.0 - Principle To Believe Any Praiseworthy Innovation Takes To Hell:

    Principle Six: To hold a belief about any praiseworthy innovation that it is a reprehensible, sinful, misguided, and takes to hell such a belief about praiseworthy innovatin is reprehensible innovation.

    6.1 - To Believe A Praiseworthy Innovation Takes To Hell Is Reprehensible Innovation:

    To believe taking part in Mawlid, Geeyarweenh, or any other praiseworthy innovation is sinful and takes the one who practices it to fire of hell itself is reprehensible innovation. And one who holds to such notion will enter hell for disbelieving a prophetic Sunnah of and for declaring the goodness of  praiseworthy innovation takes to hellfire: “He who introduced some good Sunnah in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect” [Ref: Muslim, B34, H6466] It is important to point out that not to engage in praiseworthy innovations is not sinfull but to declare them misguidance taking to hellfire is sinfull and reprehensible innovation.

    Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen.
    Muhammed Ali Razai

  2. Determining Reprehensible Innovation A Detail Explaination With Principle Guide.

    Introduction:


    It is very important for the Muslims to understand what an evil/reprehensible innovation in religion of Islam is and how to determine if a practice/custom or a tradition is evil innovation according to Islamic teaching. Typically it has been seen individuals with little to zero understanding of this subject issue edicts of Biddah/Innoation against Muslims. This article is designed to educate believers about methodology of determining evil innovation. I do not promise a simple read through will enable you to understand the subject comprehensively and properly but a study of this short article enable any and Muslim of every intellect level to determine if a practice is evil innovation or not. May Allah make this means of guidance for many.

    Reprehensible Innovation: Any innovated practice/beleife without Daleel from the Qur'an/Sunnah is Bidah Sai'yah (i.e. reprehensible innovation).

    In this word Daleel literally means evidence, and in terminology of innovation it referrs to two type of evidences: explicit, or implicit evidence. Readers have to assume both where the word is used. Sunnah in here primarily is referrence to Sunnah of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) but is inclusive of Sunnah of righteous Caliphs. There are four types of Sunnahs: Qawli: Proven from statement of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam). Fehli: proven from actions of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam). Taqreeri: proven from acceptance of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam). Wasfi: Proven from qualities, characteristics, behavior of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam).

    Principle OneA: Any innovated action/belief for which there is no explicit evidence from Qur’an or the Sunnah but it is done with the belief that it is part of deen it is reprehensible innovation.

    The phrase 'part of deen' in meaning instruction from Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in Qur’an or Sunnah of beloved Messenger (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) recorded in Hadith.

    Principle OneB: Any innovated action/belief for which there is no implicit evidence from Qur’an or the Sunnah but it is done with the belief that it is part of deen it is reprehensible innovation.

    Implicit evidence is evidence which directly does not refer to a issue in particular but with qiyas it can be turned toward the issue. Reciting bismillah while getting on bus. No direct evidence from Qur’an, Sunnah for it. But with qiyas, bus is like house, has four walls roof, seating area, therefore the hadith of can be used to substantiate recitation of bismillah entering bus. And following Hadith would be support of it: “Jabir b. 'Abdullah reported Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: When a person enters his house and mentions the name of Allah at the time of entering it and while eating the food, Satan says (addressing himself: ...” [Ref: Muslim, B23, H5006]

    The words 'part of deen' are in meaning of it being; permissible in Islam (even though it is not derived from Sunnah or from a instruction/statement of Allah subhana wa ta'ala in Quran.). To explain differently, considering it; permissible on the basis of Ijtihad; which is dependent upon indirect evidence even though there is no supporting evidence for it.


    Principle Two: Any innovated action/belief that is against Qur’an & Sunnah but it is believed to be part of Deen is reprehensible innovation.

    Word, against, is in meaning of being prohibited (Haram). Against is in meaning of it being declared Kuffr (disbelief) or Shirk (polytheism) in Qur’an or Sunnah. Words 'part of deen' denote meaning of considering it permissible, considering it Sunnah, considering it a Fard (compulsory act) sanctioned in Qur’an by Allah (subhana wa ta'ala).

    Principle Three: Adding, Altering, and/or Omitting anything from the Qur’an, & Sunnah of our beloved Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) is reprehensible innovation.

    Following three will explain principle three much better: (i) Adding anything to teaching of Qur’an, or Sunnah of RasoolAllah (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) for which there is no 'Daleel' of is reprehensible innovation. (ii) Altering anything of the teaching of Qur’an or Sunnah of RasoolAllah (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) for which there is no 'Daleel' is reprehensible innovation. (iii) Deleting anything from teaching of Qur’an or Sunnah of beloved Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) for which there is no 'daleel' is reprehensible innovation.

    Explaining How Additions Can Be Made:
     
    (i) Adding words/actions to regulated acts of worship. Example of this would be adding extra prostrations; performing three prostrations instead of two. Or reciting a additional phrase (i.e. Qul huwallahu ahad) to what is recited in prostration (i.e. subhana rabbiyal a'ala). (ii) Adding a belief/practice into Islam as Sunnah. Considering Yoga as Sunnah, or believing in reincarnation etc. (iii) Adding by enacting a reprehensible action with belief it is permissible/impermissible in Islam. If the person considered it impermissible but it became a custom/practice and fallowed after him then its reprehensible innovation otherwise its sin. (iv) Adding by believing a reprehensible belief with conviction it is permissible in Islam.  One such belief is of the anthropomorphists who believe in yaddullah in haqqiqi (literal) meanings. They believe in Hand of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) yet Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is without likeness to His creation recorded in Surah 42 Verse 11: “... laysaka misli shai'ee ...” (“... there is nothing like Him ...”).

    How Alterations Can Be Made To Teaching Of Islam:


    (i) Altering regulated acts of worship by performing something first which was to be practiced after. Performing Sajdah (prostration) before Ruku (bowing) in prayers. (ii) Altering regulated acts of worship by reciting something first which was to be recited after. Reciting Surah Fatiha in Sajdah.

    Explanation Of How Omissions Can Be Made:

    (i) Omission of actions from regulated acts of worship. Not turning right/left to greet in prayers with words, 'As'salamu alayqum wa rahmatullah.' Instead repeating it twice looking toward Qibla. (ii) Omission of recitation which is fundamentally part of regulated act of worship. Omitting of Salawat Ibrahimi: “Allahumma salli ala Muhammediv wa a'ala a'ali Muhammediv kama sal'laee ta'ala Ibrahima wa a'ala a'ali Ibrahima in'naka hameedum majeed. ... (iii) Omission of anything from Qur’an, Sunnah by rejecting it without just basis. Believing that parts of Quran have been omitted as certain apostates of Shia'ism believe. Or rejecting a Sahih Hadith which is accepted by the Ummah as whole to be authentic.

    Principle Four: Any praiseworthy innovation for which there is implicit evidence from Qur’an or the Sunnah but it is done with the belief that it is part of deen[17] it is reprehensible innovation.


    In here the words 'part of deen' are in meaning of being Sunnah, or explicit instruction of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in Quran.

    Conclusion:

    Evil innovation basicly is altering belief/practice taught in Quran and Sunnah in any of mentioned ways. And composing a practice of something Haram/Shirk/Kufr and engaging it and others following it.

    Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen.
    Muhammed Ali Razavi

  3. Introduction:

    I have had quite bit of presence on Quora for few years. I was asked to provide answer to following question: “Is it true that Salafis/Wahhabis are an offshoot sect of Khawarij? If not, then what are the differences between the Salafis/Wahhabis and the Khawarij?” It can be seen, here. And I asnwered the question with login name of Muhammed Ali Razavi. My answer, as expected, got reaction from Wahhabis, but few to react rather poorly. One apologised for foul language and deleted his posts in comment section of my post and asked me to delete my responses in which I quoted their abuse and I did. But one rather sore looser not only transgressed he went beyond the call of abuse and made my Takfir. I did not have time to respond to him back because it required bit of academic effort. Below I will quote humanized version of my original post and response of Abdullah Haveri.

    Muhammed Ali Razavi

    Answered June 8, 2018.

    To begin with it is important to point out Kharijism were not a monolithic sect but there were many off-shoots of Kharijism. It evolved in context of theological challenges it faced and it differed from region to region but core of Kharijism has remained the same. Following points can be considered core issues:

    (a) They made it permissible to kill Muslims, loot their property, and enslave their women which was/is NOT ALLOWED in Islam. They did this believing they are fighting polytheists and not Muslims.

    (b) Corner stone of Kharijism was rebelling against the State authority and Jammah of Muslims (i.e.beliefs of majority of Muslims).

    (c) They accused the companions of Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) and later generations of engaging in Innovation/Shirk.

    (d) Kharijis and Kharijism originally were anti third and fourth Khalifah but modern Ibadhi Kharijis consider them righteous Muslims and Khulafah.

    (e) Khawarij believed judgment is for only Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and right to legislate what is religion is of Allah ONLY.

    (f) Kharijis declared Muslims as Mushrikeen i.e. worst type of Kafirs (i.e. disbelievers) for major sins. And most of times for things which were not even sin in Islam. Yet Khawarij due to their warped theology deemed innocent practices as major sin, Shirk and then declared Muslims as Kafir.

    (g) Khawarij applied verses revealed for Kafirs/Mushriks and their gods upon Prophets/Awliyah-Allah/Muslims and interpreted them as if these verses were revealed about them.

    (h) Khawarij did not have correct understanding about innovations as such they deemed absolutely every every practice which they could not establish explicitly from prophetic Sunnah they deemed it as innovation which takes to hell-fire.

    (i) They judged Shirk and equality between Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and creation on basis of giving an attributing, a trait, a characteristics, an action of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) to a creation – even when no Ilahiyyah/Rububiyyah was affirmed for creation. Issue of judgement is of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) is proof of this methodology of Khawarij. As a result of this methodology they declared Hadhrat Ali (radiallah ta’ala anhu) and his party as Mushriks for appointing judges to settle dispute even though they did not affirm Ilahiyyah/Rububiyyah for any of these judges.

    (j) Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) indicated Dhil Khawaisirah at-Tamimi is Khariji and there are many more like him. And from lions of Dhil Khawaisirah Khariji group will emerge. He also said Khawarij will continue to appear until last of them joins with Dajjal. First group of Khawarij emerged from Iraq but its man power was from Najd, and from tribe of Banu Tamim. Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) prophecised there will emerge another group of Khawarij from East of Madinah, from region of Najd, and he pointed pretty precisely toward Uyanah and Dirriyah, here. Following article brilliant all round source for Kharijis, here. And Shaykh al-Najd leader of Wahhabism is from Banu Tamim and descendent of Dhil Khuwaisirah at-Tamimi. His Aal Shaykh (i.e. family of Shaykh) tribe is in lap of Saudi Kings and they are in lap of enemies of Islam and Muslims. And they have allied themselves with Israel and in future they will join forces with Dajjal and his Jewish army. As the saying goes, where the master (i.e. Saudi King) goes, there go his dogs (i.e. Aal Shaykh).

    (k) Khawarij have trait of shaven head, tucked up lion cloth, hard hearted barbaric in nature, coarse and rude in speech, self righteous like Dhil Khawaisirah and lack manners when speaking of about pious.

    Wahhabis accused Muslims of worshiping graves on account of someone prostrating to a grave out of reverance which is major sin and Haram action but Wahhabis declared them polytheists. Muslims believe foolish Muslim prostrating to someone out of respect is major sin and act of polytheism if done with belief of Ilahiyyah/Rububiyyah and intention of worship but Wahhabis make no distinction. They declared Muslims as Mushrikeen and killed Muslims vowing to make a water Well as act of Sadqa Jariyah for Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam)  if Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) answered their Dua. Their pretext was he/she vowed saying I will make it in the name of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) therefore he/she directed act of worship toward Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) consequently became Mushrik. Therefore spilling of blood has become permissible and confiscation of property and enslavement of her/his children a right conferred to them by Shariah. They permitted killing of all non-Wahhabis (because they were considered polytheists). Wahhabis rebelled against Khilafat and the Jammah of Muslims raiding the towns of Muslims under pretext the inhabitants of these towns are polytheists and Jihad is compulsory against them. And they severed from the religious congregation of Muslims, meaning Jammah, and formed their own brand of Islam. His disassociation from religious scholarship was to extent that Ibnul Wahhab claimed he alone knows Tawheed and no one in his or three centuries before his time knew Tawheed, not even his teachers. And the accusation of, innovation and innovator is a standard Wahhabi practice. You won’t here a Wahhabi speak until BIDDAH word isn’t mentioned in some way. On issue of judgment is for only Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and religion is for only Allah to legislate, depending upon the type of Wahhabi you meet you, he will believe it or disbelieve it. Vast majority will disassociate from the first but will believe in right to legislate religion is ONLY for Allah. This is wrong because many issues Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) legislated and once stated if he said Hajj is compulsory every year it would be so every year. Indicating legislation of religion is conferred to him as well. Wahhabism and Wahhabis all apply verses of Kafirs/idols upon Prophets, Saliheen, and Muslims as if they were revealed about them. There is hardly a Wahhabi book which is free of this crime. Look into Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab’s books. Kitab at-Tawheed, Qawaid al-Arba, Kashf ul-Shubuhaat etc. Entire books are filled with verses which were revealed for polytheists, or their gods, or Kafirs, and these verses are being applied upon Prophets, Saliheen of Ummah and Muslims in general. As if they were describing beliefs of them and about them. And then on basis of these verses Muslims are declared Kafir/Mushrik or Prophet is an idol, or Taghoot, sinner, or something else. And there isn’t a Wahhabi book on subjects of Tawheed, Shirk, Biddah, which righteous of Ummah, Prophets are not directly/indirectly being insulted, or directly/indirectly become guilty of some sort of monsterocity.

    I am forced to conclude Wahhabism is an offshoot of Kharijism. It is recorded and narrated by someone, I cannot recall who, maybe Qadhi Shawkani, that when Ibadhi Khariji scholar heard teachings of founder of Wahhabism Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab he remarked he is one of us. And my conviction in this regard is that Wahhabism is in actuality an off-shoot of modern Ibadhism.

    Abdullah Haveri
    June 9, 2018.


    And you are kaafir, who believes Last prophet pocessed absolute knowledge of unseen.
    “Say: “None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib (Unseen) except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected” [al-Naml 27:65]

    Abdullah Haveri

    June 9, 2018.

    Jaa ke moinuddin chisti ka muuh mein le, where does so called imam of kaaba say “isis are salafis”.
    The link says belief like salafis. Even kaafir barelvis have some belief same like salafis.


    Translation Of Urdu part: Go and take Moin al-Deen’s (phallus i.e. member) in your mouth.

    Muhammed Ali Razavi
    July 28, 2020
    .

    Abdullah Haveri you spoke just like your Imam, Shaykh al-Najd, Ibn Abdul Wahhab. Live on his evil Sunnah. He also insulted Awliyah-Allah and Prophets in similar manner. You cannot be a Wahhabi/Salafi if you do not insult and desrespect Prophets and Awliyah-Allah. It is unspoken core tenet of Kharijism which originated Najd and was founded by Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab al-Najdi. With regards to your question: Where Shaykh Kalbani said Isis are Salafis? Here watch this you dumb animal, here

    Abdullah Haveri

    June 9, 2018.

    May Allah ressurect you with your so called scholars.

    Muhammed Ali Razavi
    June 6, 2021.

    Ameen. And May Allah ressurect you among the Kafirs you love. Ameen.

    Note: Some Wahhabi scholars do not believe in Ilm ul-Ghayb for Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) and Abdullah Haveri does not also. And this is major Kufr and such a person a Kafir. Due to this I had said Kafirs instead of scholars. So it was not a blind comment but made after computing what he believes. In this context it may seem I was justified in my retort, which initially I thought I was, but while writing this article I had bit more time to reflect. And conclusion I have arrived is that it was wrong of me to say this because it is a supplication directed to Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala). It is Kufr to supplicate Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) to raise someone amongst Kafirs.It may not be apparent but to be raised amongst Kafirs carrys meaning of being raised a Kafir from Kafirs. This is why it is Kufr to make such supplications. I made repented after my realization.

    Muhammed Ali Razavi
    June 26, 2021.


    You wrote: “Abdullah Haveri, June 9, 2018. And you are kaafir, who believes Last prophet pocessed absolute knowledge of unseen. “Say: “None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib (Unseen) except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected” [al-Naml 27:65] You declared me Kafir on account of something which I do not believe nor Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah teach. And to be honest I am not very least bathered about it. What has pricked me is that you do not believe Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) has been granted Ilm ul-Ghayb. And I will shed light onto this teaching of Islam with aid of Quran and Sunnah. This will be followed by responding to and explaning your quoted Ayah. And at the end I will inform you of what we believe and why.
     
    Ghayb Was Granted To Prophet And Is Known By Him:

    Since you quoted a verse and to balance the score I quote you a verses too to prove Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) was granted Ghayb knowledge: Knower of the Ghayb does not disclose His Ghayb to anyone. Except approved Messengers, and indeed, He sends before each Messenger and behind him observers.” [Ref: 72:26/27] “Allah would not leave the believers in that  you are inuntil He separates the evil from the good. Nor would Allah reveal to you the Ghayb. But [instead], Allah chooses of His messengers whom He wills, so believe in Allah and His messengers. And if you believe and fear Him, then for you is a great reward.” [Ref: 3:179] That is from the news of the Ghayb which We reveal to you. You knew it not, neither you nor your people, before this. So be patient; indeed, the [best] outcome is for the righteous.” [Ref: 11:49] That is from the news of the Ghayb which We reveal, (O Muhammad), to you. And you were not with them when they put together their plan while they conspired.” [Ref: 12:102] Now some Ahadith which indicate how much Ghayb knowledge was given to Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) by Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) -: … I saw my Lord, the Exalted and Glorious in the most beautiful form. He said: What do the Angels in the presence of Allah contend about? I said: Thou art the most aware of it.He then placed His palm between my shoulders and I felt its coldness in my chest and I came to know what was in the Heavens and the Earth. He recited: 'Thus did we show Ibrahim the kingdom of the Heavens and the Earth and it was so that he might have certainty.' (6:75)" [Ref: Tirimdhi, Vol 5, Hadith No. 3245, Tafsir Surah S'ad] "[...] Then I saw Him put his palms between my shoulder blades till I felt the coldness of his fingers between the two sides of my chest. Then everything was illuminated for me and I recognized everything. He said: Muhammad! I said: At Thy service, my Lord. He said: What do these high angels contend about? I said: In regard to expiations. He said: What are these? [...]" [Ref: Tirimdhi, Vol 5, Hadith No. 3246, Tafsir Surah S'ad] “Narrated 'Umar: One day the Prophet stood up amongst us for a long period and informed us about the beginning of creation (and talked about everything in detail) till he mentioned how the people of Paradise will enter their places and the people of Hell will enter their places. Some remembered what he had said, and some forgot it.” [Ref: Bukhari, B54, H414] “And Muhammad is not a withholder of (knowledge of)  the unseen.” [Ref: 81:24] This is enough to prove Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) was granted knowledge of Ghayb by Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and the quantity of this Ghayb was from beginning to entering of paradise/hell. If you want further support of it purely from Quranic evidence then read my following article – click on, here.

    Contradiction In The Quran If Wahhabi Evidence Is About Prophet:

    Wahhabi quoted following verse to argue Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) doesn’t know Ghayb: “Say: “None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib (Unseen) except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected.” [Ref: 27:65] Wahhabi quoted verse if applied to Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) contradicts another verse in which Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) stated He grants Ghayb to His chosen Messenger/Messengers: “Knower of the Ghayb does not disclose His Ghayb to anyone. Except approved Messengers, and indeed, He sends before each Messenger and behind him observers.” [Ref: 72:26/27] “That is from the news of the Ghayb which We reveal, (O Muhammad), to you. And you were not with them when they put together their plan while they conspired.” [Ref: 12:102] There is a problem some where but where? It is not problem with Sunni understanding of verse, Q27:65, because verses employed by us clearly say Messengers are given Ghayb. And Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is a Messenger no doubt hence he was granted access to knowledge of Ghayb. And obviously we cannot apply or employ an ambigous verse to abrogate what is stated clearly in another verse. Nor can there be fault in a verse which clearly states Messengers are given Ghayb. There is problem with Wahhabi understanding. Why? I say verse, Q27:65, is not about Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). It does not explicitly say Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) doesn’t know Ghayb and he is is not granted Ghayb knowledge. It is clear that the verse in question affirms Ghayb for Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) but for whom does it negate?

    The Verse, Q27:65, Is About Gods Of Mushrikeen:

    The verse itself gives us clue for whom knowledge of Ghayb is being negated, none knows Ghayb in … nor can they percieve when they shall be ressurrrected, who are these: “Say: “None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected.” [Ref: 27:65] And clue to correctly understanding the Ayah is in the underlined phrase, they do not percieve when they will be raised. Therefore it has two possible meanings –: (i)  “None
    (of the dead) in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib except Allaah, nor can they (the dead) perceive when they shall be resurrected.” (ii) “None (of the gods) in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib except Allaah, nor can they (the gods) perceive when they shall be resurrected.” In reality both interpretations compliment each other. The gods worshipped by Mushriken do not know Ghayb because they are themselves dead and lifeless – so they cannot percieve when they will be ressurected (i.e. they don’t know when they themselves and people worshiping them will be brought back to life). How do we know this interpretation of verse is correct? Because Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) in another verse said Mushrikeen invoke their dead idol-gods and these gods do not know when the ressurection will take place:And those they invoke other than Allah create nothing, and they (themselves) are created. They are, (in fact), dead, not alive, and they do not perceive when they will be resurrected. Your god is one God. But those who do not believe in the Hereafter - their hearts are disapproving, and they are arrogant.” [Ref: 16:20/22] Knowing when the ressurection will take place is Ghayb so the invoked idol-gods are dead and they do not know Ghayb of when ressurection will take place. This verse establishes the ones don’t know Ghayb and don’t know when ressurection is to take place is idol-gods of polytheists. And this is exactly what the following verse is saying and which Wahhabi employed to refute prophetic Ghayb knowledge: “Say: “None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected.” [Ref: 27:65] Principle of Tafsir is that best explanation of Quran is from Quran itself. The reality of what, Q27:65, referrs to is revealed by verses of 16:20/21. In this light verse employed by Wahhabi means: “None (of the gods) in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib except Allaah , nor can they (the dead idol gods of polytheists) perceive when they shall be resurrected.” [Ref: 27:65] Readers should note Wahhabi applied and interpreted this verse to negate prophetic Ghayb as if it was revealed to negate Ilm ul-Ghayb of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam).

    Evil Khariji Sunnah To Interpreted  Idol And Mushrikeen For Believers:

    Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) is reported to have described a practice of Khawarij of old. He said they apply and interpret verses revealed for polytheists and their idols gods as if they are describing believers:
    "And the statement of Allah: 'Allah will not mislead a people after He has guided them, until He makes clear to them what to avoid.' (9:115) And Ibn Umar used to consider them (the Khawarij and the Mulhidun) the worst of Allah's creatures and said: "These people took some verses that had been revealed concerning the disbelievers and interpreted them as describing the believers.” [Ref: Bukhari, Book 88, Book Apostates, Chapter 6:Killing al-Khawarij and Mulhideen, here, scribd here.] Ibn Umar considered the Khawarij and the heretics as the worst beings in creation, and he said: They went to verses which were revealed about the disbelievers and applied them to the Believers. [Bukhari, Chapter Khawarjites, Ibn Hajr al Asqalani said in Fath ul Bari: That it’s Sanad is Sahih, here, here.] And Mr Abdullah Haveri, the Wahhabi, did exactly the same as Khawarij. And out of many practices which the Wahhabis have common with Khawarij – one of them was applying verses of idols/polytheists upon Prophets, Awliyah-Allah, and Muslims. And what did Abdullah Haveri do? Abdullah Haveri applied this verse upon Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) which was revealed to tell disbelievers/polytheists that their gods do not know Ghayb because they don’t know when the ressurection will take place.

    Ahlus Sunnat Belief About Prophet’s And Allah’s Ghayb:


    You said: “Abdullah Haveri, June 9, 2018. And you are kaafir, who believes Last prophet pocessed absolute knowledge of unseen.” You’re not familiar with technical jargon employed by Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah. We make distinction between absolute (i.e. Kull) Ghayb knowledge of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and between absolute knowledge of RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) in following two ways: (i) Absolute Ghayb knowledge of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) is inclusive of that has happened, is happening, and will happen in future. It is also inclusive of Mumkinaat (i.e. all possibilities), Imkanaat (i.e. realistically possibile possibillities), and Muhallaat (i.e. impossibilities). In other words Ghayb knowledge of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) is Kull in meaning of LIMITLESS. (ii) Kull Ghayb knowledge of RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) which Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah affirms is absolute knowledge of al-Lawh al-Mafooz, Al-Qalam, and greater. However great but it is still limited and nothing like Ghayb of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) in quantity and quality. Prophet’s (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) knowledge of Ghayb is a drop compared to limitless oceanic Ghayb knowledge of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala). Any who attributes Ghayb knowledge of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) to Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is guilty of major Shirk and is a Mushrik. And any who does not believe in limited Ghayb knowledge for RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) but completely rejects it as you have done so via following verse: “Say: “None in the heavens and the earth knows the Ghaib (Unseen) except Allaah, nor can they perceive when they shall be resurrected.”, such one is also Kafir if person resists to believe in what is revealed by Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala). And I did not make Takfir but rather informed you of Hukm for one who disbelieves in Ilm ul-Ghayb of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). After Quran and Prophetic Sunnah has reached you and you refuse to believe in it then you will be amongt the Kafirs.

    Hukm Of Invalid Takfir Is That It Returns To Issuer Of Takfir:

    Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is reported to have said: “Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger said: ‘If a man says to his brother, O Kafir! Then surely one of them is as such.’" [Ref: Bukhari, B73, H125, here.] In another Hadith Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said killing a Muslim is act of Kufr: “Narrated Abdullah: Allah's Messenger said: ‘Abusing a Muslim is Fusuq (i.e. an evil-doing), and killing him is Kufr.’” [Ref: Bukhar, B73, H70, here.] Abusing a Muslim is like killing him (i.e. Kufr) and accusing a Muslim of Kufr is like killing him (i.e. Kufr). This can be seen in following Hadith: “Narrated Ad-Dhahak: The Prophet said: ‘It is not for a slave (of Allah) to vow about something he does not possess, and cursing a believer is like killing him, and whoever accuses a believer of disbelief, then it is like he has killed him, and whoever kills himself with something, then Allah will punish him with whatever he killed himself with on the Day of Judgement.’" [Ref: Tirmadhi, B38, H2636, here.] And, all praises are for Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala), I am Muslim and foundation of your Takfir was unjust and invalid thus it returns to you and only adds to your burden of hell-fire.

    Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen.
    Muhammed Ali Razavi.

  4. Janab nay kaha kay zaleel kay bhot matlab hen. 

    Zaleel ka woh matlab leeya jahay ga joh Urdu lught mein heh. Yehni jis zuban mein ibarat likhi gahi ussi zuban mein zaleel ka matlab. Neechay zaleel ka mana heh. Check kar lenh. Aur is mein aap ka mana mojood nahin

    Smail dehalvi ki ibarat par - aap zaleel ka mana kamzor lachaar keren gay. Is ka matlab huwa Nabi wali chamar say bi ziyada kamzor lachar hen ... Yehni chamar kamzor lachar heh magr nabi wali ziyada kamzor lachaar hen ... Chamar say zaleel hona murad huwa kay nabi wali chamar say bi ziyada zaleel hen yehni chamar kam zaleel heh nabiyun waliyun say ... Zaleel ko joh mana denh magr ibarat kay sayaq mein us manay mein chamar nabiyun waliyun say behtr hoga. Nabi wali say chamar ko ilm mein amal mein shan mein shokat mein izzat mein abab mein insaaf mein haq munkir kay khilaaf mein ... Kissi bi manay mein aap chamar ko nabi say behtr kahen nabi ki toheen heh. 

    Janab aap ko samaj nahin kay dehalvi ka jumla hee aisa heh jis mein joh mana bi zaleel ka dalen gay chamar nabi say afzal hi sabat hoga. 

    Aakhri baat urf aam mein chamar choora ghali tor par istimal hota heh ... Jistera aap kay abba chooray chamar hen balkay in say bi ziyada zaleel kutta heh ... Yehni chooray chamar say ziyada ajiz/kamzor wafadar... Ghali ki taweel nahin magr mein nay kar deeh qubul heh? Urf aam mein choora chamar gali aur ziyada zaleel kehna aur bari gali aur kuttay say tashbih deh kar aur bari gali ... 

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  5. HanfiGroup

    Apny ulma ko jotiyan maro jinhon ny lekha agar aik acha matlab be nekalta ho tu b ghustakhi.

    Aur jo matlab uraf aam main hoga wohe leya jay ga.  Aur aurf aaam main bood nahe baad hy.

    Ja kar unki qabroon py jothy maroo..  

    Zalil k matlab b buhat hyn. 

    MuhammedAli

    Lolz. Ghaali aur gustakhi ka tayyun urf aam mein hota heh ... Mein kahoon tooh haram zada heh ... Tooh kahay gali heh mein kahoon nahin haram zada likha heh ... Abh urf aam mein dekha jahay ga kay aisa jumla kiss manay mein bola jata heh ... Urf aam mein haram zada  bastard ko kehtay hen. Mein laakh kahoon balkay faisla hoga kay aisa likha jana gali heh keun kay urf aam mein haram zada ghali tor istimal hota heh ha'ram zada mana mein nahin.  Urf aam ... Aam tor ... Jab is sher ka talluq hi urf aam say nahin aur nah is ka juzs toh faisla tumaray abba ka sar urf aam par hoga. 

    Urf aam ki behas sirf bad ya bod par ho sakti heh ... Bad para jahay ya bod ... Abh agar aap bad peren toh joh qari nay likha us kay kay khilaaf hoga ... Aur yeh tahreef banti heh. Haqiqat mein ie sher ka kohi bi juzz urf aam mein ghali aur towheen ka mana nahin deta jaisay aap kay uqabir ki ibarat mein urf aam mein hi ghaali deeh gai hen ... Chamar say zaleel hen ... Ghali ki taweel nahin ... Aur sarri towheen ki taweel nahin keeh jaati toba ki jaati heh ... Aap kay uqabir nay aam tor ki ghaliyun ko nabiyun waliyun ki taraf kar deeya ... isaal matti mein mil gay ...

    Is kay ilawa sher mein taweel ki bi zeroorat nahin keun kay mana ibarat kufr aur ghayr sheri nahin balkay banaya ja raha heh.

    Aap ki asal mansha ihtirazaat ki yeh nahin kay haq samja jahay balkay keencha taani kar kay kufr banaya jahay. Sirf Ala Hadhrat alayhi rahma say dushmani joh warsa mein milli heh ussay nibhana chahtay hen. 

    Janab ki ilmiat yeh heh kay yeh bi pata nahin urf aam heh kia ... Urf aam ... Yehni aam muhawara  aam tor ki zuban mein ... Is sher ka talluq hi uurf aam say nahin. Is sher ka kon sa juzz urf aam ka hissa heh aur woh urf aam mein gustakhi samja jata heh? 

    Thanvi nay rasoolallah ki takhsees ki nafi ki aur aap ko pagaloon janwaroon aisa likha ... Takhsees ki nafi say pagaloon janwaroon bachoon aur rasoolallah mein masawat qaim ki jis waja say ibarat gustakhana tehri ... Yeh urf am hi heh ... Tum aur kutta aik jaisay ho ... Masawat gustakhi bani gali bani ... Urf aam mein paleed janwar yehi kutta soowar gadda jaisa kehna gali heh ... Aur kehna hanfigroup ki khasoosiat nahin balkay woh aur kutta aisay baggayr khasoosat hen ... Ghali heh ... Keun kay yeh urf aam mein bi yahi mana deh ga mein lakh kahoon nahin nahin kutta keun kay wafadar heh is leyeh HanfiGroup ko kutta aisa keh kay mein nay ussay kuttay wafadar kaha heh ... Magr urf aam mein meray khas tayyun ko nahin leeya jahay ga balkay urf aam mein wohi hoga joh jumla mein mana leeya jata heh. 

    Aayeh urf aam samja denh ... Ismail dehalvi nay chamar say zaleel likha ... Kissi ko Chamar kehna gali heh aur chammar say bi zaleel kehna aur bari gali banta heh ... Yeh urf aam mein kissi ko aik say zaleel kehna gali heh ...

    Dosra agar mana aisa ho kay jis say kufr ka shayba ho toh phir taweel keeh jaati heh jis mein ibarat ka asal mafoom bayan kiya jata heh joh haqiqi murad thi ... Ala Hadrhat kay sher ki taweel ki bi zeroorat nahin keun kay joh unoon nay likha heh woh nah kufr ka shayba deta heg aur nah towheen ka ... Yeh toh aap apni Deogandi gustakh fitrat ki bunyad par bod ko bad bana rahay hen aur masoom ibarat ko gustakhana. 

    Aap ka kasoor nahin aap kay uqabir ki sunnat heh. gustakhi say aap bi peechay nahin ... Gutakhi likh toh nahin saktay magr auroon ki ibarat ko tor kar gustakhi kar to saktay hen. 

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  6. Is Tafsir par yeh ihtiraaz phir bi qaim rehta heh ... Murday nahin suntay ... Aur is haq ki bunyad par yeh kaha gaya heh kay mushrik murda hen nahin suntay ... Aur dil murda hen is leyeh nahin suntay.  Zinda suntay hen murda suntay nahin is bunyad par yeh kaha gaya heh ayaat mein ... Ihtiraaz phir bi qaim rehta heh ... 

    Is ka jawab yeh heh kay is ayaat mein murdoon say murda banday murad nahin balkay matti kay murda but'h hen. Yehni but'h murda hen nahin suntay ...

    Lehaza murda do kism kay hen aik but'h joh suntay hi nahin aur nah kabi suna ... Aur murda insaan joh sunta thah aur sun sakta heh jism kay murda honay kay baad ba zaria rooh. 

    Aik aur Quran ki ayat mein kaha gaya heh buttoon ko pukaro agar suntay hen toh ... Yehni nahin suntay. Aur quran ki ayaat 16:20/21 mein idols ko murda kaha gaya heh. 

    Is ayaat mein zinda bandoon ko buttoon jaisa murda tehraya gaya aur un kay dilloon ko .... Jistera buttoon mein sunneh ki quwat nahin. Kuch mushrikoon mein bi yeh nahin aur kuch dilloon mein bi yeh himmat nahin aur nah qubul karnay ki keun kay woh murda hen jaisay but'h .

    Button jaisa murda kehnay ki waja yeh heh kay jaisay idol murda thay hen aur rahen gay aisay hi mushrik hen kay kabi bi suntay nahin thay aur sunneh gay aur kabi bi hidayqt par nahin thay aur nah hoon gay.

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    is wazahat say joh wahhabiyun aur deobandiyun ki taraf say sama mauta par daleel aur jis ki bunyad par ihtiraz thah donoon ka hal ho gaya. 

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  7. Salam alaykum. 

    Q2 Jawab: Hazir nazir ka talluq mushayda amaal say heh jo  ilm ghayb ki shakh mushayda alal ghayb ka aik juz banta heh.  Saray ilm ghayb ya yoon kahen kay saray mushayda alal ghayb ka mushayda nahin.

    Q3Jawab: Alam e arwah kay ilm ka rabta munkata ho jata heh. Sab arwa nay misaqun nabiyyeen mulaiza farmaya magr us ka ilm aap ko mujjay waghayra ko nahin ... Keun kay alam e arwah say jab alam e jism mein transition huwi toh rabta toot gaya aur joh hamara ilm thah hammen yad nah raha ... Keun kay rooh pehlay jism ku mohtaj nahin thee magr jism mein dali gahi toh maadi jism kay asool o zawabat ki mohtaj aur paband huwi aur rabta alam e arwa say toota ... Is leyeh joh jantay thay woh bhool gay. Issee tara RasoolAllah par bi yeh waqt guzra rabta toota aur joh jantay thay abh yaad na raha. Quran mein moadad baar Allah nay yeh farma kar guzray huway waqiat ki yaad karwahi ... Alam tara ... Kia jantay nahin ... Yeh bhoolay huway ki taraf tawajjoh dalana heh. Allah nay is bhoolay huway tamam ilm ko phir yad karwaya joh lawh e mafooz waghyra ka thah aur woh bi stage by stage jaisay aap nay zikr keeya. 

    Hazir nazir ilm ghayb ki aik shaakh heh. Yeh masla bhot confusion paida karta heh aam banday wasteh. English section mein khadam say is ko suljanay kay wasteh kaam shoroon keeya huwa heh ... Check keren. 

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  8. Salam

     

    Mirza jahannumi ka jawab toh nahin likha magr mirza jaisay likhay huway material ka jawab complete keeya heh 100A4 pages kay qareeb heh. Agay walay kuch dinoon mein paste kar doon ga. English mein heh. 

    Mirza ka mawad research paper 3 English mein bi heh ... Inshallah ... Abhi ki masrofiyat say farigh ho kar is ka tafsili jawab likh doon ga. 

    Mirza ka kuch researxh nahin heh yeh wohi purani wahhabiat ko aur uneeh dalahil ko research ka naam deeya heh. Jaisay bhuddi kanjri make-up kar ka jawan 16 sala larki ka drama karti heh ... Yahi mirza kay research ki haqiqat heh. 

     

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  9. https://archive.org/details/RadEShahabESaqibBarWahabiKhaieen/page/n13/mode/1up

    Salam alaykum

    Thori confusion huwi magr abh khadim hazir heh. Asal mein jis, Saif an-Naqi, ka zikr Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat nay farmaya wo Hussain Ahmad Madani ki kitab heh sirf kissi aur kay naam say publish kee. Saif an-Naqi jissay urf aam mein Ghali-Nama Shaykh Madani Sughra bi kehtay hen aik aur kitaab Ghali-Nama Shaykh Madani Kubra (shihab saqib) ki ghali galoch gandi zuban bad tehzeebi aur bad tameezi ki mukhtasar masaal heh. Donoon kitabun ki gaaliyun say hi pata chalta heh keh likhnay wala Madani hi thah... 

    Asal mein jin jhooti mangarat kitaboon aur jhooti ibaratoon ka zikr abhas e aakhira mein keeeya Hussain Ahmad Madani saab nay bi uneeh ka references deeyeh ... Balkay dajjal is qadr agay bara kay joh ibaraten saif alNaqi mein nahin theen woh bi garh kar mangarat kutub say mansoob karta raha ... Allah ki is dajjal Kafir parh lannat.  Radd Shihab Saqib ka safa 11 say agay chexk kar lenh:

    https://archive.org/details/RadEShahabESaqibBarWahabiKhaieen/page/n13/mode/1up

    Musannaf radd Shihab nay Shihab Saqib mein kahan kahan Hussain Ahmad Madani nay yeh Bey-Imani ki sab ki wazahat kar deeh heh. Sab dajjal kay bachay aisay hi hen jistera Hussain Ahmad Kafir thah. Ulamah joh faut ho chukay un say kitaboon kay naam mansoob karna aur un say mansoob namoon say phir apni marzi say hawalay nikalna. Wahhabi bi aisa karta hen aur Deobandi bi.

    Hussain Ahmad nay yeh jhoot toh likh deeyeh magr Maulana Hashmat Ali Khan nay is dajjal ka jeena haram kar deeya ... Jahan par yeh milta kehtay jin kitaboon say yeh hawalay nikalay hen dekaho ya phir aisi kitab dekha doh jis mein in kitaboon kay hawaleh darj hen aur woh kitab saif naqi aur  shihab say pehlay ki ho ... Aik dafa hajj par jatay huway pakra gaya ... Phir kiya thah bicharay ka peshab nikal gaya ... Sunni kehtay rahay kay khauf ki waja say phoo aur pee nikal gahi ... Deobandi wazahaten detay rahay kay nahin nahin hazoor dar asal rafa hajjat jaa rahay thay rasteh mein roka gaya aur behas takrar pakr gahi toh pee pee kay katray niklay ... Is'see sharmindgi aur zillat ki waja say Hussain Madani kay dalaloon nay Allamah Hashmat Ali Khan ko zehar dalwaya aur zehar kay asar say shaheed ho gay. Allah tala ka un par lakh karam o inaam ho. Ameen. 

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  10. Salam alaykum,

    Mujj say ghalti huwi, Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat nay, Saif al-Naqi, kay hawala say likha thah kay us kay Deobandi Musannaf nay yeh bey-hayahi keeh heh: 

    https://archive.org/details/SaifUlNaqi/page/n16/mode/1up

    Jis Saif al-Naqi ka hawalay aur saffay Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat nay deeyeh wo upar walay print kay hen. Check kar lenh. Hussain Ahmad Madani ki bey-imaniyun ka phanda ghaliban radd-Shihab as-saqib mein heh. Mein check kar kay idhar link pesh karta hoon.

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  11. Salam alaykum

    Mein Urdu parh leta hoon aur English patti say Urdu likh toh sakta hoon magr Urdu rasm ul-khat mein likhna nahin ata aur na hee in-page ki madad say type kar sakta hoon. Is leyeh mujjay madad chayeh.

    Deobandiyun ki taraf say Jaa ul-Haq kay radd mein aik kitab likhi gahi heh, Tibyan ul-Haq, is kay jawab mein Kashf ul-Haq likh raha hoon.
    Is ko paya takmeel taq pochanay wasteh mujjay aik aisay banday ki madad kee zeroorat heh joh meri roman Urdu mein likhay ko Urdu Rasm ul-Khat mein likhay.

    Agar kohi bhai is naik kam mein madad dena chahta heh toh private message mein contact keren ya phir is number par WhatsApp message kar denh: +447707333278

    Jazakallah khair.

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  12. Muhammed Ali Razavi
    June 22, 2017

    Salam alayqum, Hamit Topcu, ISIS are not Sunni. They are Wahhabi.



    Abu Muhammad
    June 23

    ISIS are not Sunni nor are you, man.

    How can Salafism support Khuruj when Salafis don’t even permit peaceful protests on oppressive Muslim rulers.
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    Muhammed Ali Razavi

    June 25


    How Can Salafis/Wahhabis be Khariji. Have you actually looked at what Wahhabism aka Salafism has contributed to Muslims and then i will tell you what is KHURUJ and if Wahhabis/Salafis are guilty of it or not.

    In 1750 AD Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab and his band of bandits equivlents of modern terrorists were looting robbing Hujjaj that passed through Najd. Then these bandits committed hideous acts of terrorism on Sunni population of Arabia . City after city was ransacked and Sunni men, women, children, old, young, male female combatants civilians all were target of butchering and death. Women were raped and enslaved just like what ISIS did to Iraqis.

    In Syria you have ISIS a Wahhabi terrorist group everyone knows what your Wahhabis did. In Somalia al-Shabab Wahhabi/Salafi terrorist group is whole sale butchering Sunni Muslims and raping women and little girls. In Afghanistan your Wahhabis are committing acts of terrorism. In Mali the Boko Haram are Wahhabi terrorist groups … you telling me Wahhabism is not Kharijis.

    What are these groups doing of this is not KHURUJ you illiterate jack-. In addition to that Khuruj is not only in sense of fighting … but Khuruj encludes abandoning the Jammah of Muslims. What did Wahhabism do and still does with imputiny? You left the Jammah of Muslims and charged the Jammah of major Shirk, Kufr, Irtad, Biddah, and on this foundation your Shaykh al-Najd in his Kitab at-Tawheed justified killing of Muslims, enslaving of Sunni women and looting of property:

    “It is absolutely amazing! And more amazing is tat depite their (people of Biddah) reading this story in the books of Tafsir and Hadith, along with their understandings of its meaning, and knowing about the obstruction that Allah has put between them and their hearts, they believed that the deeds of the people of Nuh (i.e. over praising the dead and memorializing their graves with statues) is the best type of worship. They believed in what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden which is the disbelief (Kufr) THAT PERMITS THE TAKING OF LIFE AND WEALTH …” [Ref: Kitab al-Tawheed, Chapter 19, Page 80, Important IOChapter Number 14]

    Not only this is Takfir, this is instruction to kill Muslims. Guess what did Khawarij do, they made Takfir of Muslims because they believed Sahabah committed major Shirk by giving Hukm right of Allah to creation. And they permitted killing, looting, enslaving of Muslim women, they left the Jammah and they rebelled against the state authority and you contiue to rebel against state authority.

    You Wahhabis living in WEstern countries, you all are exactly the same as ISIS, Al-Qaidah, you’re all sitting Khariji terrorists, and if a right oppurtunity came you would do exactly to Muslims what Wahhabi groups such as Somalia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan, Mali, Pakistan, Malaysia, Sri Lanka, all these groups are Wahhabi and terrorists. If opportunity availed you will do do Sunni Mslims what your Wahhabis are doing and have done but you can live under pretext of we are peaceful and tolerant and loving but reality is your Wahabism is brutal barbaric terrorist sect and proof of it is in your books. I AM A FORMER WAHHABI AKA SALAFI AND I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOUR LITERATURE TEACHES. You just need right incentive to go out and committ terrorist acts or to join a terrorist group. Only reason Wahhabi majority have remained and did not joined ISIS in Syria and Iraq is lack of awareness of Wahhabi teaching lack of practicing true Wahhabism. True Wahhabism is PURE ISIS and its barbarity and brutality and destruction.

    Here listened to a Salafi/Wahhabi who was a former grand Imam of Masjid al-Haram and he is a major, major scholar of your Wahhabism, here.

    In response to question if ISIS is Wahhabi and in response he says ISIS is pure WAHHABISM AND EVERYTHING THEY ARE DOING IS FROM WAHHABI LITERATURE.

    In conclusion, Khuruj is millitary, as well as theological, and Wahhabism is guilty of both. Entire Tawheed/Shirk determining methodology of Wahhabism/Salafism is of Khawarij. They way their judged Shirk exactly same way Wahhabis judge Shirk and charge Muslims of committing Shirk. This is the ambilical cord WHICH CONNECTS WAHHABISM WITH KHARIJISM.
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    Abu Muhammad
    June 25

    Alright, let’s calm down & put emotions aside.

    Let us use reference from books to come to our conclusion on one issue at a time since we don’t know each other so how could we trust each other, right?

    So let me start.

    My Claim

    Our Sh. Muhammad b. ‘Abdil-Wahhab [رحمه اللّٰه] has not used Takfir execissvely.

    My Evidence

    Past Scholar, Shaykhul-Islām Muhammad b. 'Abdil-Wahhāb [رحمه اللّٰه] said:

    “And if we do not make takfīr (declaring one an apostate) on the one who worships the idol that is on the grave of 'Abdul-Qādir, and the idol that is on the grave of Ahmad Al-Badawi and their likes, due to their ignorance, and not having someone to explain them, Then how can we make takfīr on those who do not set up partners with Allah.”

    Source: [Mu'lafāt Ash-Shaykh Al-Imām: Muhammad b. 'Abdil-Wahhāb, Section III, Fatwas & Issues Pg 11]

    He [رحمه اللّٰه] also said:

    "As for what the enemies say about me: I make takfīr by using assumption and according to loyalty, or I make takfīr on the ignorant who the evidence wasn't established upon, then this is a great slander "

    Source: [Same Source, Section V, Personal Letters P. 25]

    He [رحمه اللّٰه] said:

    “Indeed we make takfīr upon the one who sets up partners with Allah in his worship, after we show him the evidence of the invalidity of shirk.”

    Source: [The Previous Source (p. 60).]

    He [رحمه اللّٰه] said:

    “As for takfīr, then I make takfīr on the one who knew the religion of the Prophet, then after what he knew, he insulted it, forbade people from it, waged war on who practiced it, So this is who I make takfīr upon and most of The Ummah - praise be to Allah - aren't like that.”

    Source: [The Previous Source (p. 38).]

    (Translated by The THIQA Page Administration)
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    Muhammed Ali Razavi
    June 26

    About My Self:

    You said we don’t know each other so I am about to introduce myself to you. My name is Muhammed Ali and I am from England, Derbyshire. I was likely the very first Hanafi Salafi on internet. Long before the term Halafi came to be used for my type of Salafis. I am a former, WAHHABI, and there is my story how and why I left Wahhabis, here. If you want to read my content you’re welcome to read 275 articles, here, all are dedicated to refuting Wahhabism or its offshoot but I recommend you read the reasons why I left. All important articles evidences are linked in it. Now I have introduced myself to you.

    Word Of Advice:

    Just to let you know IN-ADVANCE this discussion will eventually, sooner, later will feature on the forum of which I have linked above. Later is more likely because at the moment I am busy formatting a discussion of Istighathah, 137 A4 pages, long, later likely. With improved formatting and content. Rest assured all your posts will remain as they come nothing will change but I will rework my own content. So I do advise you to make a dignified and respectable show because it is better to be a good looser then a bad looser.

    Setting Some Record Straight:

    I want to begin with something simple and easy for naive mind of yours. First of all I did not say Shaykh al-Najd made direct Takfir of majority or whole of Jammah of Muslims. I said he charged the Muslims of Kufr, Shirk. And you cannot charge someone of Kufr/Shirk without direct Takfir. Example Wahhabism is group of Kufr in East foretold in Hadith:

    “Abu Hurayra reported that the Messenger of Allah, may Allah bless him and grant him peace, said, "The head (or summit) of disbelief lies towards the east and the pride and arrogance lie in people who possess horses and camels who are also coarse - the bedouins. Tranquillity lies in people who possess sheep." [Ref: Adab al-Mufrad, here.]

    I quoted this Hadith from Adab al-Mufrad but same Hadith is found in Bukhari and Muslim, here. I believe Wahhabism is indeed the group of Kufr and Tafseel of it is not important for the point I am intending to make. Your Wahhabism and you are upon Kufr but I am not saying you’re Kafir. Yet it is clear to you if I make Hujjah and you do not repent I will issue Hukm of Kufr against you i.e. declare you’re Kafir. And I will answer if direct Takfir is required or not.

    Your Objective Shaykh al-Najd Did Not Make Takfir:

    So your pre-prepared onslaught to justify SHAYKH AL-NAJD DID NOT MAKE TAKFIR OF UMMAH/MUSLIMS IS ABOUT TO FAIL.

    Takfir, Or No Takfir, Does It Matter, Or No Matter:

    Direct Takfir, you’re Kafir, you’re outside the fold of Islam, does it matter, or no matter? Takfir is a legal formality and it requires Hujjah but absence of Takfir does not change reality of a Kafir. Zayd believes there is no ressurection after death, no judgment day or its accountability or paradise or hell, he is guilty of major Kufr. Mufti makes no Takfir but says denial of all these if Kufr … does not mean Zayd is not Kafir reality is ZAYD IS A KAFIR if a Mufti issues Takfir, or not, has no bearing on Zayd being Kafir. Because Kafir’s Kufr doesn’t need Hukm to be Kufr, nor Zayd needs to be declared Kafir to be Kafir. Kufr of Zayd and Zayd being Kafir are a reality which needs no attestation from a Mufti. Takfir of a Mufti is a legal formality. If Zayd died upon his beliefs as mentioned he died a Kafir irrespective of lack of formal direct Takfir from Mufti.

    IN PRINCIPLE EVERY PERSON GUILTY OF MAJOR KUFR/SHIRK IS KAFIR/MUSHRIK UNTIL REPENTANCE.

    Why does this matter? And what does it got to do with what we are about to discuss? This matters because being Kafir/Mushrik doesn’t require formal direct Takfir. It is related to topic because Shaykh al-Najd has not explicitly made direct, formal Takfir of entire Ummah but from his teachings it can be deduced all of Ummah was Kafir/Mushrik according to his religion of Wahhabism.

    Your Objective Shaykh al-Najd Did Not Make Takfir Is A Fail:

    So your pre-prepared copy paste job to prove Shaykh al-Najd did not actually directly formally made Takfir of entire Ummah is about to fail on you because EVEN IF HE DID NOT MAKE TAKFIR … my objective still will be established that according to teaching/belief of Shaykh al-Najd vast majority/entirity of Ummah [with exception to his followers] were guilty of major Kufr/Shirk … IN REALITY AND IN ACTUALITY … but he did not make formal Takfir in such explict words.

    My Claim About Shaykh al-Najd And His Teachings:

    Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab believed Muslims of Arabia as whole were upon major Shirk. And killing them is permissible, looting property is permissible, enslaving of wives of such people is allowed. And he made Takfir excessively and unjustly.

    Evidence Shaykh Najd Deemed Muslims As Kafir/Mushrik:
     
     
    "And I inform you about myself - I swear by Allah whom there is none worthy to worship except Him - I have sought knowledge and those who knew me believed that I had knowledge while I did not know the meaning of La Ilaha illa Allah at that time and did not know the religion of Islam before this grace that Allah favoured. As well as my teachers no one among them knew that. And if someone from the scholars of al-'Aridh claims that he knew the meaning of La Ilaha illa Allah or knew the meaning of Islam before this time, or claims on behalf of his teachers that someone from them knew that, then he has lied and said falsehood and deceived the people and praised himself with something he does not possess." [Ref: al-Durar al-Saniyya, Volume 10, Page 51, Trnslted by Abu Sulayman, here.]

    Comment: Al-Aridh is regions around Saudi province of Najd. Al-Aridh is inclusive of all provinces of Arabia including Hijaz. In other words all the Muslims of Arabia were Kafir/Mushrik. And the only Muslim that existed in the land of Arabia during his time was he himself alone and no one else other then those who accepted his Wahhabism.

    WAHHABI: But, but, but, he didn’t make Takfir, you lying Sufi Moshrek filth.

    ANSWER: It makes no difference if he made no Takfir. In formality they were not Kafir/Mushrik but in Haqiqat he establish Kufr/Shirk of them. Just because he formally did not make Takfir they were not Kafir/Mushrik? Are you going to say they were Muslim according to Wahhabism? How can anyone be a Muslim if he does not even know meaning of la ilaha il-Allah? Will someone be Muslim if he does not know linguistic meaning of la ilaha il-Allah and Tafsiri meaning of it? How can someone believe in Tafsir meaning of la ilaha il-Allah when he doesn’t even know it? And how can such a person be Muslim? So you agree they were Kafir/Mushrik despite no formal Takfir?

    Shaykh al-Najd said Muslims are polytheists:

    “That the polytheists in our era are more severe in their (committing of) shirk than the first polytheists (during the Prophet's time). This was since the first polytheists sed to associate partners with Allah at times of ease and worship Him sincerely during times of hardship. However, the polytheists in our era constantly commit shirk in times of ease as well as in times of hardship. The proof for this is His - the Exalted …” [Ref: Qawaid al-Arba, fourth principle, here.]

    Who were these Mushrikeen? Christians, or Hindus, or Muslims of Arabia?  You and I both know he is referring to Muslims of Arabia. You should know this that every Mushrik is Kafir but not every Kafir is Mushrik. And a Mushrik is greater Kafir then a Kafir. In this light see Shaykh al-Najd said Muslims of Arabia which he encountered are worst Mushrikeen then Mushrikeen whom RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) encountered. To say to a Muslim you’re Kafir is bad, to say to him you’re Mushrik (i.e. is to say to him you’re worst Kafir there can be) is very bad, but to say you’re worst Mushrik then Mushriks which Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) encountered is very and very bad Takfir. Shaykh al-Najd didn’t just say this about one or two but entire people of Arabia:

    “However, the polytheists in our era constantly commit shirk in times of ease as well as in times of hardship.”

    Are you still going to delude yourself that he did not declare Muslims as whole were Mushrikeen?

    Shaykh al-Najd wrote: "The second issue: To disbelieve in that which is worshipped instead of Allah, and this means to make Takfir upon the polytheists and the disavowal from them and that which they worship alongside Allah. So whoever does not make Takfir upon the polytheists of the Turkish state and the grave-worshippers like the people of Makkah and (upon) others from those who worship the righteous and left the Tawheed of Allah for Shirk and exchanged the Sunnah of his Messenger (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) with innovations, then he is a disbeliever like them even if dislikes their religion and hates them and loves Islam and its people. This is so because the one who does not declare the polytheists to be disbelievers has not accepted the Qur`an. The Quran declares the polytheists as disbelievers, and commands to declare them as such and to show enmity towards them and to fight them." [Ref: al-Durar al-Saniyya, Volume 9, Page 291, Trnslted by Abu Sulayman, post 15, here.]

    Shaykh al-Najd said anyone who does not make Takfir of; (i) the polytheists of the Turkish state, (ii) the grave-worshippers like the people of Makkah, (iii) others from those who worship the righteous, (iv) and left the Tawheed of Allah for Shirk. Such a person according to Shaykh al-Najd is: “… a disbeliever like them even if dislikes their religion and hates them and loves Islam and its people.”  If Shaykh al-Najd did not make Takfir of Muslims of Arabia in accordance with his own teachings he would be Kafir. Why, and how can he abstain from Takfir of people whom he believes were Mushrikeen? He cannot and did not therefore to be Muslim in accordance with his own teachings it must be that he made Takfir of people whom he deemed to be Mushrikeen. And we, I and you, know pretty much entire Arabia was belief of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah whom Shaykh al-Najd charged of being engaged in major Shirk. Further more you’ve been abstaining from Takfir of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah and according to teaching of Shaykh al-Najd you’re Moshrek filth like me. You’re Mushrik without affirming Shirk and holding to Tawheed of Wahhabism and refuting Shirk according to Wahhabism. How is that even possible?

    Shaykh wrote:

    So whoever does not make Takfir upon the polytheists of the Turkish state and the grave-worshippers like the people of Makkah and (upon) others from those who worship the righteous and left the Tawheed of Allah for Shirk and exchanged the Sunnah of his Messenger (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) with innovations, then he is a disbeliever like them …

    It needs to be pointed out that Shaykh al-Najd has made a blanket Takfir, carpet bombed with Takfir which covers all people of Ummah except Wahhabis:

    (i) He said Muslims of Turkish state were Mushrikeen. In his time Turkish state was Ottoman Khilafat. Please see map of Turkish Ottoman empire, here. All the Muslims living in territories of Ottoman empire between 1718 to 1790 were Kafir/Mushrik.

    (ii) He said grave-worshippers of Makkah are Mushrik. In reality people of Makkah, Madinah, whole of region of Hijaz, and others were already declared to be Mushrikeen in his first qualification … i.e. Turkish State because these territories and others were part of Turkish State, hence all regions were Mushrikeen.

    (iii) He said others those who worship the righteous are also Mushrikeen. According to Wahhabism Sunnis, Shias worshipped righteous, and only exception to this is Wahhabis and Wahhabinised. And these ‘Mushrikeen Muslims’ were not only limited to Arabian Peninsula rather beliefs of these ‘Mushrikeen’ were spread far and wide. To Indian subcontinent (i.e.India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, Afghanistan Bohtan), modern Russian states, vast majority of Africa (Somalia, Mali, Algeria, Libya, Egypt) Iraq, Syria, Yemen, Malaysia … And according to Shaykh al-Najd and his Wahhabism due to certain practices this over-whelming majority was/is guilty of major Shir therefore Mushrikeen. This qualification is foundation of blanket, carpet bombing the Muslim Ummah with Takfir. And if you resist this Takfir and abstain from Takfir then you’re Mushrik like the Mushriks.

    (iv) He said any who leaves Tawheed for Shirk is Kafir (i.e. disbeliever) like them (i.e. Mushrik). This qualification is not targetting anyone specific but it is a general rule. You can consider this qualification as foundation of three previous one. And consider them as explanation of this qualification.

    Think about all these lands in morden times and realize which ever country you can think of Wahhabism is minority creed and the dominant and prominant creed WAS/IS of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah. And Shaykh al-Najd the Khariji was making Takfir of majority of Muslims. You will say, you Sufi Moshrek filth, killing you is Halal for me, you lie you Moshrek filth, you’re making this all up there is no proof about entire Ummah not knowing Tawheed. So here you go proponent of Wahhabism says the same in his own way leading to same conclusion i.e. muslim majority is kafir/Mushrik due to being upon Tawheed of Mushrikeen:

    قوله: "إن أخوف ما أخاف عليكم الشرك الأصغر" هذا من شفقته صلي الله عليه وسلم بأمته ورحمته ورأفته بهم، فلا خير إلا دلهم عليه وأمرهم به، ولا شر إلا بينه لهم وأخبرهم به ونهاهم عنه; كما قال صلي الله عليه وسلم فيما صح عنه: " ما بعث الله من نبي إلا كان حقا عليه أن يدل أمته على خير ما يعلمه لهم - الحديث

    ". فإذا كان الشرك الأصغر مخوفا على أصحاب رسول الله صلي الله عليه وسلم مع كمال علمهم وقوة إيمانهم، فكيف لا يخافه وما فوقه من هو دونهم في العلم والإيمان بمراتب؟ خصوصا إذا عرف أن أكثر علماء الأمصار اليوم لا يعرفون من التوحيد إلا ما أقر به المشركون، وما عرفوا معنى الإلهية التي نفتها كلمة الإخلاص عن كل ما سوى الله-

    "Specially if it is known that today the majority of scholars from different (muslim) countries do not know from tawhid except what mushriks (of Makkah) approved and they did not know the meaning of "al-ilahiyya" that "kalimatul-ikhlas" denied its attribution to anything other than Allah.” [Fath Al Majeed – Sharh Kitab At-Tawheed, Chapter (4) Fear Of Shirk, page 76]

    Author of Fath al-Majeed, grandson of Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab, aka Shaykh al-Najd the Khariji, has written that vast majority of Ummah is upon Tawheed of Mushrikeen of Makkah. You tell me if being upon Tawheed of Mushrikeen would qualify this vast majority for Islam or Kufr, and for Muslim or Kafir? Shaykh al-Najd also said majority of Muslims were Mushrikeen/Kafireen:

    "It's known regarding the people of our land and the land of al-Hijaz, that those among them who reject the resurrection (after death) are more than those who accept it and that those (among them) who know the religion are less than those who do not ..." [Ref: al-Durar al-Saniyya, Volume 10, Page 43, Trnslted by Abu Sulayman, here.]

    "But he came from al-Sham, and they worship Ibn Arabi and have made an idol upon his grave to worship it. I do not mean all of the people of al-Sham, no of course not; rather there does not cease a group [from them] to be upon the truth, even if they're only few." [Ref: al-Durar al-Saniyya, Volume 2, Page 45, Trnslted by Abu Sulayman, here.]


    Responding To Wahhabi Brother’s Evidence – Arguing He Didn’t Make Takfir:

    You quoted that Shaykh al-Najd wrote:

    “And if we do not make takfīr (declaring one an apostate) on the one who worships the idol that is on the grave of 'Abdul-Qādir, and the idol that is on the grave of Ahmad Al-Badawi and their likes, due to their ignorance, and not having someone to explain them, Then how can we make takfīr on those who do not set up partners with Allah.” [Source: Mu'lafāt Ash-Shaykh Al-Imām: Muhammad b. 'Abdil-Wahhāb, Section III, Fatwas & Issues Pg 11]

    This is in clear contradiction with what I quoted above and I quote again:

    "The second issue: To disbelieve in that which is worshipped instead of Allah, and this means to make Takfir upon the polytheists and the disavowal from them and that which they worship alongside Allah. So whoever does not make Takfir upon the polytheists of the Turkish state and the grave-worshippers like the people of Makkah and (upon) others from those who worship the righteous and left the Tawheed of Allah for Shirk and exchanged the Sunnah of his Messenger (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) with innovations, then he is a disbeliever like them even if dislikes their religion and hates them and loves Islam and its people. This is so because the one who does not declare the polytheists to be disbelievers has not accepted the Qur`an. The Quran declares the polytheists as disbelievers, and commands to declare them as such and to show enmity towards them and to fight them." [Ref: al-Durar al-Saniyya, Volume 9, Page 291, Trnslted by Abu Sulayman, post 15, here.]

    Maybe someone is covering his footsteps, or forgetting what he wrote, or maybe his position changed and position of Durar al-Saniyyah was lattest. Maybe it was earlier position … in that case Shaykh al-Najd is covering his tracks. Or maybe he just forgot what he had written earlier. I don’t know where to go from here. If Durar statement is earlier then Shaykh al-Najd is covering his Takfiri tracks in statement of Mu’lafat. If Mu’lafat was later then this doesn’t bid well for you because then you’re acting on Sunnah of Qadiyanis attempting to wash away contradictions by referring to his earlier positions. For your sake I hope you’re doing this due to ignorance and not inspite of knowing the truth about Shaykh al-Najd. However you roll the ball you and your Shaykh al-Najd loose on basis of what he wrote.

    Two Important Questions On Statement of Mu’lafat ash-Shaykh:

    (i) If his statement of Takfir which I quoted was earlier one and the one you quoted later then it indicates he retracted. Then why is he saying he did not make Takfir in your quoted statement? (ii) If what I quoted is was his lattest position and what you quoted was his earlier position then why are you trying to cover-up his later position with earlier position?

    Shaykh al-Najd Making Takfir According To Association/Loyalty:

    He Said:

    "As for what the enemies say about me: I make takfīr by using assumption and according to loyalty, or I make takfīr on the ignorant who the evidence wasn't established upon, then this is a great slander " [Same Source, Section V, Personal Letters P. 25]

    Shaykh said he does not make Takfir based on loyalty and he does not make Takfir of ignorant folk. Yet in the following statement his Takfir is blanket, inclusive of loyalists of Turkish state, ignorant and educated of Makkah:

    "The second issue: To disbelieve in that which is worshipped instead of Allah, and this means to make Takfir upon the polytheists and the disavowal from them and that which they worship alongside Allah. So whoever does not make Takfir upon the polytheists of the Turkish state andthe grave-worshippers like the people of Makkah and (upon) others from those who worship the righteous and left the Tawheed of Allah for Shirk and exchanged the Sunnah of his Messenger (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) with innovations, then he is a disbeliever like them even if dislikes their religion and hates them and …." [Ref: al-Durar al-Saniyya, Volume 9, Page 291, Trnslted by Abu Sulayman, post 15, here.]

    Or do you disagree? You disagree. Question is does Shaykh al-Najd need to declare someone to be Kafir for them to be Kafir? And can they be Kafir/Mushrik if someone was guilty of Kufr or Shirk? Takfir does not need to be made for someone to be Kafir, or Mushrik. And Shaykh Najd deemed some practices to be major Shirk which were not major Shirk. So in Wahhabism these practices became major Shirk/Kufr and in principle according to Wahhabism anyone engaged in these practices was in reality a Kafir/Mushrik but being unable to explain Wahhabi Tawheed and Shirk to these ‘Mushrikeen’ there was no direct Takfir on individual basis. Instead a blanket Takfir was made which is good as direct Takfir.

    Proving Killing Of Muslims Was/Is Permissible In Wahhabism:

    I said Shaykh al-Najd permitted killing of Muslims, looting of their property, and enslaving of their women which Allah’s Messenger (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) prohibited:

    “That the Messenger of Allah (sallallaahu alayhi zva sallam ) was emerged among a people that differed from one another in their worship. Among them were those who worshipped the angels. And among them were those who worshipped the prophets and righteous people. And among them were those who worshipped trees and stones. And among them were those who worshipped the sun and the moon. However, the Messenger of Allah ( sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam ) fought against (all of) them and did not differentiate between any of them. [Ref: Qawaid al-Arba, third principle, here.]

    “It is absolutely amazing! And more amazing is tat depite their (people of Biddah) reading this story in the books of Tafsir and Hadith, along with their understandings of its meaning, and knowing about the obstruction that Allah has put between them and their hearts, they believed that the deeds of the people of Nuh (i.e. over praising the dead and memorializing their graves with statues) is the best type of worship. They believed in what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden which is the disbelief (Kufr) THAT PERMITS THE TAKING OF LIFE AND WEALTH …” [Ref: Kitab al-Tawheed, Chapter 19, Page 80, Important IOChapter Number 14, here.]

    He said fighting/killing Muslims whom he and his Wahhabism deems Mushrik/Kafir is permissible and taking of life and property is also permissible. Wahhabi armies not only did precisely that to the Sunni Muslims of Arabia but they took the women of Sunni Muslims, their wives, mothers, sisters, daughters, and raped them to enforce their right of slavery upon them.

    Unjustly Declaring Beliefs Practices Of Muslims As Shirk And Takfir Of Muslims:

    Shaykh al-Najd made Takfir of Muslims and permitted killing of Muslims on matters which were not Shirk/Kufr to begin with. Shaykh al-Najd wrote:

    "The second issue: To disbelieve in that which is worshipped instead of Allah, and this means to make Takfir upon the polytheists and the disavowal from them and that which they worship alongside Allah. So whoever does not make Takfir upon the polytheists of the Turkish state andthe grave-worshippers like the people of Makkah and (upon) others from those who worship the righteous and left the Tawheed of Allah for Shirk and exchanged the Sunnah of his Messenger (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) with innovations, then he is a disbeliever like them even if dislikes their religion and hates them and …." [Ref: al-Durar al-Saniyya, Volume 9, Page 291, Trnslted by Abu Sulayman, post 15, here.]

    And lets suppose he did not make direct, formal Takfir of of Muslimf of Arabia, or Ummah. Even this does not change anything because Shaykh al-Najd held belief x, y, z is major Shirk. And even absence of formal Takfir it is still established that in Wahhabism vast majority of Muslims were actually Kafir/Mushrik and only exception to that was Shaykh al-Najd’s followers. And only reason he did not individually make direct Takfir of each and every resident Arabia by mentioning name, Fulan, Ibn Fulan, Ibn Fulan is because task required serveral million written Takfirs. No one makes Takfir like this. We, by that I mean you and I, believe Qadiyanis are Kafir. We judge that on basis of certain criteria. If a person claiming to be Qadiyani meets it we judge him as a Kafir. We judge whole Qadiyaniyyah to be Kafir have we made Hujjah upon all? We haven’t because if Takfir required that we make Hujjah to each and everyone then why would we consider Qadiyanis as Kafirs. When a large group of people is involved in Kufr/Shirk Takfir then scholars give a certain guidelines and by judging on them we can determine if someone is Kafir or not. We don’t need to give Hujjah to entire Qadiyani Jammah to declare them Kafir, or believe they are Kafir, if they meet criteria they are Kafir. Due to large numbers, over whelming majority, 99.99% of Muslims being guilty of major Shirk in teaching of Shaykh al-Najd he could not have issued specific Takfir so he gave a guiding principle on basis of which his followers can judge if someone is Kafir or not. And above quote is proof and example of this kind of guiding principles.

    Prophet’s Ummah Will Not Worship Idols, Sun, Moon, Tree, Stones:

    Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said: “It was narrated from Shaddad bin Aws that the Messenger of Allah said: “The thing that I fear most for my nation is associating others with Allah. I do not say that they will worship the sun or the moon or idols, but deeds done for the sake of anyone other than Allah, and hidden desires.” [Ref: Sunan Ibn Majah, B37, H4205, here.] Another version of same Hadith which is Sahih states: “They will not worship sun, and not moon, and not stones, and not idols …” [Ref: Musnad Imam Ahmad, Musnad Shaamiyeen, Hadith 16671,here.] Zayd Bin al-Hibab Bin Riyaan’s standing is Sudooq, Hassan ul-Hadith (i.e. truthful; Hassan ul-Hadith). Abdul Wahid Bin Ziyad, he is graded as, Thiqa. Ibadah Bin Nasi is Thiqa. And Shaddad Bin Aws Bin Thabit is a companion and he is above false ascription to Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). In another Hadith Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) has been reported to have said: "Verily, the Satan has lost all hopes that the worshippers would ever worship him in the peninsula of Arabia, but he (is hopeful) that he would sow the seed of dissension amongst them." [Ref: Muslim, B39, H6752] And Satan worship in language of Quran is idol worship and Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said in Arabian Peninsula Muslims will not worship idols in obedience to Satan. Now I know you will contradict me and quote me Ahadith of worship of Dhil Khilasa, al-Laat worship. And here is brief answer. The people worshiping al-Laat, Dhil al-Khilasa the booty shakers will be non-Muslims and this will take long after death of Muslims. A cold musky wind will blow and it will take life of all Muslims/Momins and Satan will come to Kafirs and tell them to worship idols and Kafir Arabs will worship idols mentioned in Hadith i.e. Al-Laat, al-Uzza, Dhil al-Khilasa etc … al-Hasil Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said the Muslims will not worship, idols, sun, moon, stones, trees, and Muslims of Arabia will not worship idols in obedience to satan. Yet Shaykh al-Najd contradicted Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) and attempted to make his teachings voids.

    Conclusion:

    Shaykh al-Najd made Takfir of Muslims excessively, or as i put it blanket Takfir, carpet bombing with Takfir. And Shaykh al-Najd held to understandings which if true then whole Ummah other then him and his followers was upon actual Kufr/Shirk. And he made Takfir unjustly and belied the words of Prophet sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam with his teachings. When he said there will be no major Shirk amongst the whole Muslims of Arabia, no idol worship, no sun, moon, start, stone, tree worship Shaykh al-Najd said there is and was.

    Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen.
     Muhammed Ali Razavi.

    Abu Muhammad
    June 27

    I’ve read your text and I have understood the following.

    ·         You don’t know the difference between ‘Am and Khas rulings.

    ·         You don’t know who is considered a Scholar & who isn’t and how do we identify who is one and who isn’t as laymen.

    ·         You don’t know the conditions needed to know an individual and his reliability.

    ·         You don’t know the difference between using a name, an adjective and a verb in rulings and their meanings.

    ·         You don’t know all the exclusive rights of a Mujtahid.

    ·         You don’t know the difference between Fatdwa, Hal & Hukm

    ·         You don’t know the difference between warnings, dispargements and rulings.

    ·         You did not name those Salafi scholars today so you don’t even know the methodology of your opponent.

    ·         You don’t know Salafiyah and you didn’t know it back then.

    So when you have actually studied creed, methodology and related sciences under actual scholars then we will discuss, till then actually study (browsing isn’t studying).

    Muhammed Ali Razavi
    June 27

    It would have been soo good if you actually addressed what I wrote instead of like all-mighty wise one posted observations about me. It doesn’t matter about me, what matters is what is established from your texts. Instead of going after what I wrote you went after WHO WROTE IT and thats way of loosers. At the very least refute what I wrote then come after me. Because if you did your job then your observations would have been worth something. Any how I am about to deal with just first, observation I don’t know Aam/Khaas one.

    You Said:

    “I’ve read your text and I have understood the following: You don’t know the difference between ‘Am and Khas rulings.”

    Explaining Hukm Aam And Hukm Khaas:

    (i) Hukm Aam, general ruling applicable to all who meet a certain criteria i.e. Wahhabis are Kafir. (ii) Hukm Khas is a specific ruling, in this context, issued about an individual who meets criteria, and upon whom Hujjah is made, Hukm Khas speicificly targets a person and not a whole group i.e. Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab was a Kafir.

    Your Objective Why You Said What You Said:

    Now I have explained to you Hukm Aam and Khaas lets refute what you want to hide behind. The reason you said I am unaware of Hukm Aam and Khaas is because you want to imply that CARPET BOMBING OF MUSLIMS WITH TAKFIR is Hukm Aam and does not apply until Hujjah is made, or until criteria of Kufr/Shirk has been met. In other words you hoped to insinuate Shaykh al-Najd issued his judgment regarding those who committed major Shirk but does not include those who were without Kufr/Shirk even if they lived in Turkish state.

    The Reality Of Hukm Aam And Hukm Khaas And Its Application:

    Hukm Aam is all inclusive and if conditions of Hukm Aam are met by a person, a whole group, residents of a village, or a city, or a country, then it is applicapable upon all. Let us first burst your bubble about Hukm Aam. Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) said:

    They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, "Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth?" And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent.” [Ref: 5:17]

    This verse says those who believe/say Jesus is son of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) are guilty of Kufr. This is Hukm Aam about all those who believe as such. The qualifiying criteria is, any who says Jesus is son of Allah, whoever meets this criteria, be it a Christian living right after the time of Isa (alayhis salam), or during the life of Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam), or be he Catholic or Protestant, be he Black or White, be he male or female, be they old or young, when and if they affirm Prophet Isa (alayhis salam) is son of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) they are guilty of Kufr. Now do you understand Hukm Aam is all inclusive? It is amazing that you’re intelligent person and educated because you have understood.

    How Hukm Aam And Hukm Khaas Work:

    Hukm Aam is all inclusive of those who meet the criteria on which the Hukm was issued. Hukm Aam justifies Hukm Khaas. Hukm Khaas is germinates from Hukm Aam. Hukm Aam, those who say Prophet Isa (alayhis salam) is son of Allah have committed Kuffr, Donald meets the criteria, on basis of Hukm Aam we have got specific ruling, DONALD committed Kufr. The whole purpose of Hukm Aam is that from it originates and it supports Hukm Khaas whenever Hukm Khaas needs to be issued. You’re telling me I don’t know nature of Hukm Aam yet the reality is you’re totally and completely unaware of it yourself except a basic linguistic understanding of it. Hukm Aam, every innovation is misguidance, this Hukm Aam gives rise to Hukm Khaas, Mawlid is an innovation. Mawlid is innovation what is it based on? It is based on Hukm Aam, every innovation is misguidance. Entire purpose of Hukm Aam is that it supports Hukm Khaas.

    Statement Of Shaykh al-Najd And How It Is Understood:

    Shaykh al-Najd Said in his book:

    "The second issue: To disbelieve in that which is worshipped instead of Allah, and this means to make Takfir upon the polytheists and the disavowal from them and that which they worship alongside Allah. So whoever does not make Takfir upon the polytheists of the Turkish state and the grave-worshippers like the people of Makkah and (upon) others from those who worship the righteous and left the Tawheed of Allah for Shirk and exchanged the Sunnah of his Messenger (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) with innovations, then he is a disbeliever like them even if dislikes their religion and hates them and loves Islam and its people. This is so because the one who does not declare the polytheists to be disbelievers has not accepted the Qur`an. The Quran declares the polytheists as disbelievers, and commands to declare them as such and to show enmity towards them and to fight them." [Ref: al-Durar al-Saniyya, Volume 9, Page 291, Trnslted by Abu Sulayman, post 15, here.]

    How I See This Statement:

    If you say this statement of his is example of Hukm Aam. And I will say you’re spot on because HUKM AAM IS ALL INCLUSIVE. And this is Hukm Aam in Takfir the qualifiers were mentioned earlier and I will do again. Shaykh al-Najd said whoever does not make Takfir of: “(i) … he polytheists of the Turkish state, (ii) the grave-worshippers like the people of Makkah, (iii) others from those who worship the righteous, (iv) and left the Tawheed of Allah for Shirk, …” then such a person is Kafir/Mushrik like the ones mentioned. In my understanding each qualifier is individually applicable and Shaykh al-Najd was giving qualifiers which would nullify the Islam of a Wahhabi, or anyone not adhering to his Takfir.

    How A Wahhabi Is Likely To Understand It:

    Let me interpret it according to how you would like to interpret statement of Shaykh al-Najd. You would say: According to Shaykh al-Najd polytheists IN Turkish state are those who worship graves like people of Makkah, and those who worship the righteous. In other words anywho in Turkish state does so like peopl of Makkah - Shaykh al-Najd and his Wahhabism deems to be guilty of Shirk.

    Now answer my two questions:

    (i) The Mushriks of Turkish State via two conditions; were the entirity of Turkish State, or were they a great majority with minority of Muwahideen? In case you say minority was Muwahideen but majority of them were steeped in practices of Shirk but I do not declare/believe they were Mushrik/Kafir. I say to you it matters not if you make their formal/direct TAKFIR. Fact of matter is you believe vast majority of them were in reality upon major Shirk and that alone is criminal enough.

    (ii) ANYWHO living in Turkish State guilty of Shirk via these two conditions IS HE MUSHRIK OR NOT? If you said they were not you’re Kafir according to your own Shaykh al-Najd. Do you remember that Hukm Aam supports Hukm Khaas? Hukm Khaas, Abu Muhammad is a Kafir according to Wahhabism. What is support for this Hukm? Shaykh al-Najd said:

    “… and exchanged the Sunnah of his Messenger (sallallahu 'alayhi wa sallam) with innovations, then he is a disbeliever like them even if dislikes their religion and hates them and loves Islam and its people. This is so because the one who does not declare the polytheists …." [Ref: al-Durar al-Saniyya, Volume 9, Page 291, Trnslted by Abu Sulayman, post 15, here.]

    Prophet’s Ummah Will Not Worship Idols, Sun, Moon, Tree, Stones:

    Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said:

    “It was narrated from Shaddad bin Aws that the Messenger of Allah said: “The thing that I fear most for my nation is associating others with Allah. I do not say that they will worship the sun or the moon or idols, but deeds done for the sake of anyone other than Allah, and hidden desires.” [Ref: Sunan Ibn Majah, B37, H4205, here.]

    Another version of same Hadith which is Sahih states:

    “… قَالَ: أَمَا إِنَّهُمْ لَا يَعْبُدُونَ شَمْسًا وَلَا قَمَرًا وَلَا حَجَرًا وَلَا وَثَنًا

    “They will not worship sun, and not moon, and not stones, and not idols …” [Ref: Musnad Imam Ahmad, Musnad Shaamiyeen, Hadith 16671,here.]

    Zayd Bin al-Hibab Bin Riyaan’s standing is Sudooq Hassan ul-Hadith (i.e. truthful; Hassan ul-Hadith). Abdul Wahid Bin Ziyad, he is graded as, Thiqa. Ibadah Bin Nasi is Thiqa. And Shaddad Bin Aws Bin Thabit is a companion and he is above false ascription to Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam).

    In another Hadith Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) has been reported to have said:

    "Verily, the Satan has lost all hopes that the worshippers would ever worship him in the peninsula of Arabia, but he (is hopeful) that he would sow the seed of dissension amongst them." [Ref: Muslim, B39, H6752]

    And Satan worship in language of Quran is idol worship and Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said in Arabian Peninsula Muslims will not worship idols in obedience to Satan. Now I know you will contradict me and quote me Ahadith of worship of Dhil Khilasa, al-Laat worship. And here is brief answer, the people worshiping al-Laat, Dhil al-Khilasa the booty shakers will be non-Muslims and this will take long after death of Muslims. A cold musky wind will blow and it will take life of all Muslims/Momins and Satan will come to Kafirs and tell them to worship idols and Kafir Arabs will worship idols mentioned in Hadith i.e. Al-Laat, al-Uzza, Dhil al-Khilasa etc … al-Hasil Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said the Muslims will not worship, idols, sun, moon, stones, trees, and Muslims of Arabia will not worship idols in obedience to satan. Yet Shaykh al-Najd contradicted Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) and attempted to make his teachings voids.

    Brief Comment On What You Wrote:

    You read my text and you made observations about me. Well if they make you sleep peacfully do Tilawat with them. Bottom line is you failed to respond to anything and everything I wrote. And all praises are for Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) who gave me insight and knowledge to expose your deception and pretendance of being Sunni but now the truth of your Kharijism is revealed. Fact of matter is Wahhabism then and now deemed beliefs practices of OVER-WHELMING MAJORITY of Muslims as major Shirk/Kufr. In other words Wahhabis emphatically believe vast majority was actually Kafir/Mushrik … but say … we didn’t say they were Kafir/Mushrik. That’s like me saying, I believe and know you Wahhabis are bastards in actuality … but I don’t and did not formally say you’re bastards. No body cares about formality of Takfir rather what matters is what you believe about Muslims in actuality. That is vast majority of Muslims then and now are actually in reality Mushrikeen/Kafirs but we formally don’t declare such.

    This was my last response to you. I am not spending my valueable time with an empty vessel like you. Go make noises some where else.

    Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen.
    Muhammed Ali Razav

    Abu Muhammad
    June 27

    My reply is as it was and it is addressed to what you wrote.

    Muhammed Ali Razavi
    June 27

    Salam alaykum,

    When the write up actually completes I will publish it and you will be notified. Repent from your neo-kharijism and become a Sunni Muslim.

    Entire foundation of Najdi Dawah was, vast majority, everyone other then Wahhabis are Mushrik and we need to spread Tawheed. And this completely contradicts prophetic teaching found in Hadith.

    All the Ahadith which Wahhabis use to argue for Shirk in Ummah such as worship of Dhil al-Khalasa, Uzza, Manat, have been explained in light of prophetic statements. And basicly Arab Kafirs would worship these idols after blowing of wind which will kill all Muslims and all Momins then Kafir Arabs would revert to religion of their forefatehrs i.e. worship of dhil al-Khalasah, Lat, Uzza etc … This refutes and properly explains all evidences which Wahhabis use to prove Muslims will engage in idol worship.

    Second part is Ahadith which clearly state Muslims will not worship stones, idols, trees, sun, moon, and Satan worship will not take place in Arabia amongst Muslims i.e. idol wroship not take place amongst Arab Muslims.

    With this entire foundation of Najd Dawah collapses. I have written extensively on these Ahadith and explained them in detail. And if youre honest and objective then insha allah you will find truth. All these articles can be found on the link. If you need my help finding them I will find them and link them here. Otherwise Salam alaykum. Our difference is reality of Surah al-Kafiroon. I don’t worship what you worship and you do not worship Allah whom I worship. Your Allah is with hands, feet, shin, womb, eyes, like image of Adam (alayhis salam) and my Allah is nothing like anything …

    Our Tawheed is different, out Allah is different, our Shirk is different, … our understanding of Quran is different, … we have no commonality and I cant bridge that huge gap. You live your delusions and misguidance and let me live mine.

    Abu Muhammad
    June 27

    My reply is as it was and it is addressed to what you wrote.

  13. 38.0 – Some Important Information Before Discussion On Satan Worship:

    [EMail.] I Said: From section
    8.0 to 8.3 4.0 to 4.3 we had discussion on if entirety/majority of Muslims in Arabian Peninsula can fall into major Shirk. My position was that Shaykh al-Najd and his followers believed/taught majority if not entirety of Ummah residing in Arabian Peninsula had become Mushrik. And Shaykh al-Najd believed he is bringing Islam back to these Mushrikeen. In an effort to prove Shaykh al-Najd had no foundation to accuse Muslims of Arabia of major Shirk and via logical deduction; Muslims of world at large; I quoted following Hadith: "Verily, the Satan has lost all hopes that the worshippers would ever worship him in the peninsula of Arabia, but he (is hopeful) that he would sow the seed of dissension amongst them." [Ref: Muslim, B39, H6752] And I said Muslims not worshiping Satan means Muslims will not worship idols in Arabian Peninsula. Implication of which was/is obvious that it would invalidate the entire foundation of Shaykh al-Najd’s antagonism against Arab Muslim. This would go on to establish innocence of Ahlus Sunnah against all charges of Shirk levelled by Shuyukh and minions of Iblees of Najd. End.

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    Numbering corrected.

    Jazakallah Khayr brother for letting me know.

  14. Salam alaykum,

    Pedaish say pehlay ka waqt Quran mein zamana maut mein ginna gaya heh. Nabi e kareem ka wasila qabal az-paidaish Quran say sabat heh. is leyeh wafat qabal padaish aur wafat bad az-wafat RasoolAllah ka wasila jaiz heh.

    Allah farmata heh:
    “They will say: "Our Lord! Twice hast Thou made us without life, and twice hast Thou given us Life! Now have we recognized our sins: Is there any way out (of this)?" [Ref: 40:11] “How can you disbelieve in Allah Seeing that you were dead and He gave you life. Then He will give you death, then again will bring you to life and then unto Him you will return.'' [Ref: 2:28] Hasil huwa zamana pedaish say pehlay maut ka thah aur pedaish baad rooh ka jism baghayr hona bi maut heh.

    Abh agar sabat ho jahay kay donoon mein say kissi aik mein bi wasila banahay gay to halat e wafat mein Wasila sabat heh.

    Allah farmata heh: “And when there comes to them a Book from Allah, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for victory against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognized, they refuse to believe in it but the curse of Allah is on those without Faith." [Ref: 2:89] Aur is ayaat ki Tafsir istera heh: "(“…though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved…”). Said Ibn 'Abbas: “The Jews of Khaybar were at war with Ghatafan, and whenever the two parties used to meet, Khaybar ended up in defeat. For this reason they devised the following supplication: 'O Allah! We beseech You by the truth of the unlettered Prophet whom You promised to send forth to us at the end of time to give us victory over them'. And so whenever they said this supplication, Ghatafan was defeated. But when the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, was sent forth, they disbelieved in him. It is due to this that Allah, exalted is He, revealed ...” [by: Tafsir Asbab Un Nuzul, Al Wahidi] "When there came to them a Book from God, confirming what was with them, in the Torah, that is the Qur’ān — and they formerly, before it came, prayed for victory, for assistance, over the disbelievers, saying: ‘God, give us assistance against them through the Prophet that shall be sent at the end of time’; but when there came to them what they recognized, as the truth, that is, the mission of the Prophet, they disbelieved in it, out of envy and for fear of losing leadership (the response to the first lammā particle is indicated by the response to the second one); and the curse of God is on the disbelievers." [Ref: Tafsir Jalalayn] "(“And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession”) which accords with that which is in their possession (“though before that”) before Muhammad (“they were asking for a signal triumph”) through Muhammad and the Qur'an (“over those who disbelieved”) of their enemies: the tribes of Asad, Ghatafan, Muzaynah, and Juhaynah (“and when there cometh unto them that which they knew”) of his traits and description in their Book (they disbelieved therein) they denied it was him. (“The curse of Allah”) His wrath and torment (“is on disbelievers”) the Jews." [Ref: Tafsir Ibn Abbas]
    "(although aforetime they had invoked Allah (for coming of Muhammad ) in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved) meaning, before this Messenger came to them, they used to ask Allah to aid them by his arrival, against their polytheistic enemies in war. They used to say to the polytheists, "A Prophet shall be sent just before the end of this world and we, along with him, shall exterminate you, just as the nations of `Ad and Iram were exterminated.'' Also, Muhammad bin Ishaq narrated that Ibn `Abbas said, "The Jews used to invoke Allah (for the coming of Muhammad) in order to gain victory over the Aws and Khazraj, before the Prophet was sent. When Allah sent him to the Arabs, they rejected him and denied what they used to say about him. Hence, Mu`adh bin Jabal and Bishr bin Al-Bara' bin Ma`rur, from Bani Salamah, said to them, `O Jews! Fear Allah and embrace Islam. You used to invoke Allah for the coming of Muhammad when we were still disbelievers and you used to tell us that he would come and describe him to us,' Salam bin Mushkim from Bani An-Nadir replied, `He did not bring anything that we recognize. He is not the Prophet we told you about." [Ref: Tafsir Ibn Kathir]

    Quran ki ayaat aur Tafasir say sabat huwa kay Yahood RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ka Wasila say Fatah mangtay thay.

    Pedaish say pehlay waqt maut aur is zamana maut mein Wasilah banay lehaza wasila faut shuda ka jaiz heh.

     

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  15. Aisay loghoon par kohi fatwa nahin jin ko ghayr motbar bandoon nay ilm paunchaya ho aur khabr panay par bila tasdeeq koi faisla nah kar pahen aur ihtiyatan takfir nah keren ... Har woh banda kufr ka murtaqib heh joh kufria  nazriat o aqahid ko sahih janay ... Misaal kay tor thanvi ki ibarat ... Jissay is ka ilm ho aur waja kufr ko paa leh aur phir bi kufr aur bey adabi nah janay kufr ka murtaqib heh ... Motbar zarahay say khabr nah milnay parTakfir nah karna aur baat heh ... Magr kisi ibarat ko kufr jannay kay wasteh motbar ya ghayr motbar zarahay say khabr kufr ka milna zeroori nahin ... kufri nazria ko kufr tehrana zeroori heh ... Misaal ... Zalim Allah ko do manta heh ... Zalim kay nazria ki tasdeeq nahin lehaza takfir nahin magr nazria ko kufr janna zeroori heh.  

    Magr jin ko khabr ki tasdeeq ho un wasteh lazam heh takfir karay. Agar nahin karta to kam say kam gumra biddati zeroor heh jab kay ibarat ko kufr janay ... Aur agar ibarat kufria ko sahih samjay toh kufr lazam huwa aur takfir bi. 

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  16. Salam alaykum. Allamah Kazmi rahimullah nay bey hawas kehnay ko gustakhi likha heh honay ko nahin.  Misaal thanvi harami ho gstakhi nahin magr kehna gustakhi heh. Allama kazmi ki ibarat taqwiyaatul iman kay sayaq o sabaq mein heh. Ismail dehalvi nay likha kay rasoolallah kissi nakkamay ki tara bey hawas ho gay ... Kuxh is tera ki ibarat thi ... Sahih yad nahin. 

    tafsir naeemi ka sayaq o sabq aur heh. Aur wesay bi Allamah naeemi nay bey hawaas likha bi nahin kay rasoolallah bey hawaas ho gay .  Balkay likha kay hosh hawaas baja nah rahay. Confusion panic forgetfullness  ki waja say bi hosh hawaas baja nahin rehtay. Nabi na to khof say panic karta heh aur nah shaytan ki waja say bhoolta heh Allah bula deta heh. Is leyeh confusion ho sakti heh. 

    jadoo nabi par asr nahin karta yehni pagal nahin karta jis say hosh o hawas aisay kho jahen kay achay bura islam kufr ki tameez nah rahay ... Aisa jadoo nahin war karta ... Hosh o hawas baja nah rahay ka mana heh darust nah rahay ... Yeh ilfaz confuse confusion wasteh bolay jateh hen ... Aur jadoo nabi par is tara asr karta heh ... Yehni confsion peda karta heh jaisay hadith say sabat heh ... RasoolAllah ko yad nah rahi namaz pari ya nahin ... Halanh kay namaz par chukay thay ... Tafsir naeemi mein bi yahi likha heh ... 

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