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  1. Meri behan Shia meh bot say firqay hen saroon kaya aqahid ek jesay nahin. Hammeh joh banda jistera apnay aqahid batahay hammeh us kay mutabiq judge kerna chahyeh. Agar kohi apnay aqahid ko chupata heh toh hammeh kia nuqsaan heh. Agar kohi Quran meh tehreef ka aqeedah rakhta heh aur chupata heh toh hammeh kia nuqsaan heh. Yeh us ka zaati masla heh han jab woh banda apnay aqeedeh ko pehlahay ga aur logoon ko gumra keray ga hammeh phir bolna chahyeh. Shia awaam bichari itni hee jahil heh jitni Sunni awaam balkay Shia ziyada jahil hen. In kay Zakir istera biyan kertay hen: "Maula Ali jab goray per sawar huway ...." toh joh awaam bethi hoti heh; wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, zakir; "... aur jab goray ko doraya toh hawa be saath dor peri." aur awaam; wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah aur awaam; wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah, aur awaam; wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah aur awaam; wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah aur awaam; wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, wah, jeeyo, jeeyo, wah, wah, jeeyo, wah, wah, wah. Meh nay kabi kissi Shia ko biyan kay doran kabi kohi Quran pertay nahin suna. In ko yeh pata nahin hota kay in kay firqeh ka aqeeda kia heh Quran meh joh likha heh us ka ilm toh bot door kee baat. Joh Shia, Quran meh tehreef ka aqeeda rakhta ho, Jibraeel ka Wahi ko ghalat banday ko pochana, Sahabah ko gali deh, Allah kay leyeh esa aqeeda rakhay jis say nuqs sabat ho, Hazrat Abu Bakr kee khilafat ka munkir ho, Azwaj e Rasool kay ahle bayt honay ka, ashaab e Rasool ka behtreen ummat yehni ummah khaira honay ka munkir ho, waghera, woh kaffir heh.
  2. Baee har Shia kafir nahin heh. Rafzi Shia kafir. Shia aur Rafziyoon meh farq heh. Magar yeh hazrat joh be hen in ko wazahat kerni chahyeh thee achi tera. Ek Aalim kee responsibility heh kay woh apni envoriment say waqif aur envoriment kay mutabiq jawab deh. Misaal kay tor per, ek banda thah us kay bakri bemari thee us nay apnay parosi say poocha; array baee jab tumari bakri bemar huwi toh kia dawa istimal kee thee. Parosi nay jawab deeya; matti ka telh, parosi gaya aur us nay be apni bakri ko matti ka telh pilaya. Phir us nay apnay parosi say kaha array baee meri bakri toh matti ka telh pee ker mar gahi heh, parsohi nay jawab deeya mar toh meri be gahi thee. Matlab yeh kay sawal ka jawab sirf itni detail meh nahin dena chahyeh jis say nuqsaan ho. Ikhlaaqi farz banta heh kay tafseel say jawab deeya jahay esay nazuk masail meh takay joh beguna hen woh bach saken aur joh mujrim hen woh pechanay ja saken. Ek Tv program dekha jis meh Shia aalim say ek presenter sawal ker raha heh, kia aap Hazrat Abu Bakr ko kafir kehtay hen. Shia nay jawab deeya joh kissi Sahabi ko kaffir janay woh bila shak o shuba kafir heh. Nateeja kia nikla, Shia toh Hazrat Abu Bakr ko Sahabi manta hee nahin balkay woh toh munafiq aur kafir honay kay qail hen aur Sunni Hazrat Abu Bakr ko Sahabi mantay hen. Abh Shia kay jawab ko sun ker joh jis ka apna aqeedah heh kay Hazrat Abu Bakr Sahabi hen woh Shia kay jawab ka mafoom leh ga kay joh banda Hazrat Abu Bakr ko kafir kahay khud kafir heh. Aur haqiqat yeh heh kay us banday nay Hazrat Abu Bakr ko Shiyoon kay aqeedeh kay mutabiq Sahabiat say kharij jana aur jaan booj ker esay ilfaaz istimal keeyeh jis say us ko Hazrat Abu Bakr ko musalman kehna nah peray aur dosra faida huwa kay directly kaffir nah kaha is say joh Shia kay baray meh mashoor heh kay woh Sahabah kee toheen kertay hen us ka be rad ho gaya. Aur Shia ko toh maloom hee hota heh kay un ka maulvi kia keh raha heh keun kay in kay saray maulvi isharatan Sahabah kee shaan meh gustakhi kertay hen apnay bayanaat meh. Misaal kay tor per yeh Shaytaan Aamir Liaqat, yeh Shia majlis meh gaya aur Hazrat Abu Bakr kay mutaliq yeh kaha: "... kahan gahay betiyan denay walay ..." aur context meh Hazrat Abu Bakr per tanz ker raha thah.
  3. I am fully aware of my language and how accurately i described him. I am sorry but i do not share your idealic respect and love of maulvis.
  4. If you decide to put speeches on your site, make sure they are speeches of people who speak and not scream, last person you want on ur site is someone like Tokay wali sarkar, you dont want Mustafa Qureshi, or Sultan Rahi, or Mr bean type scholars. there is nothing wrong with aqeedah of Mufti Muhammad Yusuf Razavi aka tokay wali sarkar, but his manner of delivering a speech is very unacademic and very much like a jahil. Deobandis Wahhabis do not listen and factually no one wants to listen to someone screaming, yelling, times have changed and we have to change our ways how we present our deen to people. What was acceptable is no longer acceptable any longer. You have to make decisions ... good decisions. Learn from mistakes and improve. That was the advice i could offer you.
  5. Salam alaqum wr wb, brother my advice for you is to keep the website simple, When i opened the page two things start out, the header of the page, and the books passing from right to the left. You need to minmize the header and you need to minimize the books going past. it should be big enough to be seen but not big enough that it covers half of screen. Also note that anything moving on the front page will automatically attract the attention eye. If people dont like what they see moving chances are they will leave. People decide to stay or leave a site in 10/15 seconds. Keep the website simple as possible but elegant. Writting should be readable but not in your face and the colours should be easy on the eyes not so difficult that people cant see and writting style syle should be something simple elegant not:Keroon Kia Meh Wahabia, Aqal Pay Matam Teri. uncoventional and over powering. Keep your writting academic; dont slander, dont disrespect Wahhabis or their scholars. Most people will leave straight away if their loved religious personality is disrespected, or they will disregard what you write. You have to explain your point of view in simple language, and in a way the points are easily accessible to a average intellect. When you write about a topic carefully analyze what you write. And when you write always write in neutral manner, as if you are not wrtting your own aqeedah but only stating whats written in the Quran or hadith. Dont focus on images posters, focus on the quality of the content. When you quote a book reference also provide a link to it liketh this [1] so the reader can click on the link and actually see the scan. On the scan page clearly under line the content you referenced. Its not okay to say, this is gustakhi of Prophet sallalahu alayhi was'sallam, and not explain why it is gustakhi, and please dont write; its gustakhi because a imam of our age has said so. No explain the reason why Imam said, how linguistically it means insult, how the phrase is used... in language then establish evidence from Quran hadith. Always write a base FIRST article and then move onto issues related to it. For example, if you going to write about Milaad not being innovation, FIRST WRITE DEFINITION OF INNOVATION with evidences. Once you have written that article proceed to write about definition of innovation, then write about why Milad is not innovation, in this way the readers will be able to read the definition of innovation, and then understand you reasons why milad isnt innovation. If you write about gustakhana ibarat, first write about how we determine a insult, what type of language is considred insult, how people insult each other, then write what will be insult in context of Prophet, talking loud is disrespectful ... write about the punishment of insulting Prophet sallahau alayhi was'sallam, then write about the actual issues. This way people have all the back ground information and then they will be able to understand why so and so statement is gustakhana. What i am sugesting is be systematic, methodological, plan what you going to write about and then write about. Many times when you write you will come to realise a sub-topic needs to be written about, make sure you make note of that, and then you write about it. Focuse on the content, how you present the content. not the images and pictures. Beauty is in simplicity.
  6. MuhammedAli

    Poetical Representations.

    Nazriati Ikhtilaf Raazi jab Allah ho, ho jab raazi Bagwan. Seeta Geeta jab raazi, raazi ho Rehman. Kafir, Mushrik, Sab naraz, qaim jab Islam. Raazi ho jab Allah, naraz ho jab shaytaan. Meh theek, too theek, hen sab to musalman. Ittihad wastay sab theek, daleel he farman. Theek toh sab theek he, theek he sab Islam. Door raho sab be'eman, farmaya Rab e Rahman. Quran ki Ummat khair he Ahle Sunnat ke pechaan Yad ker amr maroof o munkir wala Nabi ka farman. Theek heh rasta, theek, teen qawloon kay darmiyan Theek he sada haq, buland kerna, khilaf be-eman. Yeh un sufiyoon kay khilaaf likhi joh ghalt ko ghalt kehna najaiz samajtay hen. Aur ghalt ko ghalt kehna chahtay nahin is waja say say agar ghalt ko ghalt kaha toh izzat me kami hogi aur faradi sufiat peace love tolerance wali image kharab ho jahay gee. Aur kutta aur khanzeer naraz ho jahen gay muj say aur keun kay meh bot bara sufi hoon is leyeh khamosh rehna chahyeh. ============================== Tafsir bil ra'i: Kohi momin musalman kerta nahin kabi Tafsir bil ra'y Keray tafsir bil ra'y, jahanumi kafiroon wali heh yeh jurrat teri Joh huween theen nazil asnaam e mushrikeenh kay wastay Musalmanoon per chispan keray, ajab heh yeh hamaqat teri, Shar'rul khalaiq kay huway misdaq, ziayada agar kahoon; Mashriki qarn e kuffr say ho, to bi samajna yeh sharafat meri, Wala qad yassir nal Qur'ana ko per ker phir be samaj nah paya Jaan leh Nabi nay hadith meh bewaqoofi batahi thee asliyat teri, ============================== Nara e Tehqeeq Kay Rafzi Dushman: Jissay char yaar say piyar ho Nah ussay haq char yar say khar ho. Tooh Nara Haidri per har dam tiyar ho Sirf Bakr Omar Usman say tujjay bukhar ho. Tafzili, Rafzi kay nazranay khanay per tiyar ho, Haram khor phir tahirun say keyun nah bezar ho Tanqeed e Raza per nah sirf tera ikhtisaar ho, Tabarah e Sahabah say tujjay khoob piyar ho Rafz'iat kay bister meh tera har ek Tafzili yar ho Sahabi ko bhonkay, Shiat ke rah tuj say hamwar ho Peren qabr meh tujjay keereh, teri muridiat ka yahi hal ho. Heh khuda dua heh meri tuj say jhooti meri is kee kha'al ho. Dunya o akhirat meh misl e khanzeer tera haal ho Heh meri dua Rabb say, lanat tum pay be shumar ho, ============================== Wahhabiat Ki Asliyat: Keroon Kia Meh Wahabia, Aqal Pay Matam Teri. Quran Nah Samaj Saka, Bewaqufi Asliyat Teri, Utray Nah Quran Halq Say, Paleed He Khalq Teri, Najd Say Nikla He, Thi Mashrik Me, Kufr e Qarn Teri, Dua e Rasool Say Be Marum Raha, E'si Bad'bakhti Teri, Tera Qatal Qom e Aad Sa Kerun, Pakeeza Khawahish Meri Buland Kee Sada e Insaaf Tooh Nay, Quran Meh zikr e Hamaqat Teri, Adab e Risalat Malhooz Na Rakh Saka, He Khawaisiri Fitrat Teri, Gustakhi Teri Fitrat, Gustakh e Ambiyah o Muqaribeen Heh Itrat Teri, Tera Qatal Keroon He O Be'gherat , Umar O Khalid See Niyat Meri, Teri Namaz esi Kay Ashab Be Sharmahen, Nabi Nay Batahi Nishani Teri, Teer Jesay Kharij Ho nishan Say, Kharij Hoti He Tuj Say Musalmani Teri, Baghawat o takfir, qatil e aam, Mushrik, biddat thee aur heh nishani teri Ali Nay Zabiya Fi'sabililah Ki Teri fojh, yahi ho agar Ho Huk'marani Meri, Mashrik Say Nikla, Iraq Meh Thee Teen Qarnoon Say Jang Teri, Abbas O Ali To Is taraf, Mukhalif He In Ki Zul Khawaisiri Foj Teri, Fatawah e Shirk Ali Pay Lagen, Aj Be Chalti He Shirki Gun Teri. Ali Ki Tawheed Per Qurban Jahun, Wohi Fatweh Hen Aj Sadat Meri. ============================== Aur be bot likhi theen, magar la parwahi kee waja say zaya ho gaheen. Ek bot lambi thee jis meh Wahhabi ko Ilm e Ghayb per ihtirazat ka jawab thah, ek kafi lambi two pages wali ek Deobandi poem ka jawab thah jis meh unoon nay Ahle Sunnat per ihtiraaz keeyeh thay Hindu kay ihtirzat Hindoon ban ker likhi gaee thee. Deobandi ban kay hindu kehta heh tooh Mushrik musalman ko Kesay tehrahay Mushrik joh manay Surah al kafiroon kay farman ko ... Hindu heh Mushrik, keun kay manay woh but meh khudai shaan ko. Sunni manta heh khuda sirf Rab e Alameen Raheem o Rahman ko. ... waghera ... lambi thee is me us Deobandi poem kay har ihtiraaz ka jawab thah magar sab zayan ho gaya.
  7. Khudkhasi bila waja apni jaan ko, niyatan, iradatan, koshishan, apnay hathon say, kuch kha lena, ya unchi building say chalang lagana, ya chalti gari kay agay khara hona, yeh khud khasi heh. Khudkashi har halat meh haram heh. Apni amraaz ka ilaaj nah kerwana khudkashi nahin. Agar niyaat ho kay Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) sehat yaab keray ga, aur maut ho jahay toh shaheed kee maut heh. Apni ismat kay bachanay kay leyeh be khudkashi jaiz nahin. Agar khawand murtad ho jahay toh musalman aurat ka nikkah mansookh ho jata heh, talaq denay aur nah lenay kee zeroorat heh. Aurat ko iddat guzarni peray gee. Is kay ilawa aurat per joh be Nikkah meh sharahit rakhi gahi theen un per poora utarna zeroori nahin. Misaal kay tor per nikkah meh shart thee kay agar aurat talaq leh toh ussay mard ka deeya huwa haq mahir aur sona wapis kerna peray ga. Is shart per aurat ko amal kee zeroorat nahin keun kay aurat nay awal talaq nahin leeh mard murtad huwa. Kafir mard aur musalman aurat meh nikkah nahin ho sakta. Chaheh court meh forms fill keeyeh hoon, ya United Nations nay nikkah jaiz kerwaya ho.
  8. Kawwa khana kesa heh? Janab is sawal ka jawab kia doon, kabi khaya nahin, Deobandiyon say poochen kesa heh. Halway kay baray meh ham say poochen kay kesa heh toh ham bata saktay hen.
  9. Agar kissi aur maslay per wazahat talb kerni heh toh hazir e khidmat hoon. Apna taruf kerwa denh aur batahen kia aap Sunni hen ya pehlay Deobandi thay. Thora apna taruf kerwahen meray baee.
  10. As salamu alayqum wr wb Shukria meray baee Allah ta'ala aap ko jaza e khair deh.
  11. Bunyaad: Thora ghor o fikr kernay kaay baad meh nay note keeya kay Thanvi sahib kay mureed nay sara din kalma pera. Tehqeeq pesh e khidmat heh. Thanvi ka mureed khawab meh ghalt kalma perta heh: "La ilaha il allah ashraf ali RasoolAllah." Is ghalat kalmay kee islah per jagtay huway darood perta heh: Allah behij apni barkateh hamaray Sayyid per, aur hamaray Nabi aur Maula Ashraf Ali per ..." Abh agay meh aap ko mureed ka likha huwa pesh kerta hoon: "Halanh kay abh bedaar hoon, khawab nahin, lekin be ikhtiyar hoon, majboor hoon, zubaan apnay qaboo meh nahin, us roz esa hee kuch khiyaal raha toh dosray roz bedaari meh riqqat rahi khoob roya ..." Is ibarat meh khiyaal ba-mana nazriya istimal huwa heh. Dekhyeh aap jab baat kertay hen toh kehtay hen meray khiyaal meh esa ghalt heh aur esa darust heh, aap ka matlab hota heh kay meray nazriyeh meh esa ghalat aur esa darust heh. Note keryeh ga mureed ko khawab meh bee pata thah kay us ka kalmah ghalat heh, aur jagtay huway be us ko pata thah kay darood ghalat heh is leyeh yeh khiyaal imagination wala khiyaal nahin yeh khiyaal nazriyeh wala heh. Abh janab ka esa nazria sara din raha: "La ilaha il allah ashraf ali RasoolAllah." Allah behij apni barkateh hamaray Sayyid per, aur hamaray Nabi aur Maula Ashraf Ali per ..." Aur mureed ko dil meh toh pata hee thah kay us ka kalma aur darood ghalat heh aur woh islah kee khatar sara din zubaan say koshish kerta raha aur jab bee zubaan kholi yeh nazria nikla: "La ilaha il allah ashraf ali RasoolAllah." Allah behij apni barkateh hamaray Sayyid per, aur hamaray Nabi aur Maula Ashraf Ali per ..." is leyeh mureed nay likha: "... lekin be ikhtiyar hoon, majboor hoon, zubaan apnay qaboo meh nahin, us roz esa hee kuch NAZRIYA raha ..." Sawalat kay jawab: 1] Khawab per fatwah nahin thah balkay joh mureed nay sara din kalmah peray aur thanvi un kalmoon say raazi huwa fatwa us per thah 2] Pedari meh Kalmah ek dafa nahin sara din pera gaya. Abh toh tasalli ho gahi hogi nah kay sara din para gaya ya nahin? 3] Khawab per toh ihtiraaz har giz nahin. Thanvi sahib ka jawab saray waqia kay baray meh thah khawab kay baray meh nahin: "Is waqia meh tasalli thee ke jis kee taraf tum ruju kertay ho ba'una ta'ala mutta-beh sunnat heh." Agar Meem, Jeem, Noon, woh khawab ka rona roh raha heh aur Thanvi nay is puray waqia say apnay aap ko muttabeh sunnat sabat keeya heh. Abh meri taraf say teen sawalat: In sawalat ka jawab imandari aur apni gut feelings kay saath deejeeyeh ga. - Thanvi Sahib nay is puray waqia say joh mafoom akhaz keeya heh yehni: "Is waqia meh tasalli thee ke jis kee taraf tum ruju kertay ho ba'una ta'ala mutta-beh sunnat heh." Kia Thanvi sahib ka sirf yahi haq banta thah kay apnay haq meh is waqia ko is andaaz meh biyan kertay? - Thanvi sahib kay mureed nay jagtay huway darood meh Thanvi sahib ko Nabi tehraya: " Allah behij apni barkateh hamaray Sayyid per, aur hamaray Nabi aur Maula Ashraf Ali per ..." Kia Thanvi Sahib munkir kee rok kerna zeroori nahin thee? Char lafz hee Islah meh kehtay; "esa kehna kuffr heh." - Thanvi Sahib kay mureed ka darood pertay huway Thanvi Sahib ko Nabi manna aur is per Thanvi sahib ka khamosh rehna aur is pooray waqia ko apnay muttabeh Sunnat honay kee daleel banana, kuffr per raazi hona nahin? ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Khadam nay pehli dafa is maslay ko satti nazr say dekha aur ghor o fikr nah keeh. Phir jab Ala Hazrat alayhi rehma ka likha huwa pera toh Thanvi sahib kee kitab kee ibaraat per ghor o fikr keeya. Jab is maslay per ghor fikr kee aur Thanvi sahib kee arwa e salasah kee ibarat ka ghor say mo'ina keeya toh zahir huwa kay Thanvi sahib kay mureed nay waqia hee sara din Kalmah pernay kee koshish kee magar Ashraf Ali perta raha. Is leyeh khadam nay post 43 meh thori tarmeem ker dali.
  12. As salamu alayqum wr wb Agar khamoshi behtr hoti to Sayyidi Ala Hazrat khamoshi ikhtiyaar kertay aur imaan e janab e Abu Talib kee tardeed nah kertay. Yeh ikhtilaaf aaj ka nahin pehlay say chala a raha heh magar phir be Ala Hazrat alayhi rehma nay iman e janab e Abu Talib kee tardeed kee aur kitaab likhi. Jee khamoshi us'see waqt taq behtr thee jab taq aap khamosh thay. Ham nay toh khamoshi ikhtiyaar kee huwi thee jis khamoshi ko aap nay torwaya aur abhi be khamoshi ikhtiyar keeyeh huway thay magar aap nay jawab per majboor keeya. Khamoshi mofeed us'see waqt thee jab aap nay sawal nahin keeya thah. Aap ko be pata hee thah kay yeh ikhtilafi masla heh toh aap ko chehr'na nahin chahyeh thah aur abh chehr deeya heh toh mera jawab be bardasht ker lenh. Yaqeenan aap ko hee nahin auroon ko be tardeed e imaan e Janab Abu Talib per dukh huwa hoga magar woh khamosh rahay aur behtr heh aap bee chup ker jahen. Allama Ahmad bin Zayni Dahlan rahimullah alayhi ta'ala martba e ilm meh Sayyidi Ala Hazrat Imam e Ahle Sunnat kay madd e muqabil nahin ustaad hen. Meh is baat ka qail hoon kay Sayyidi Ala Hazrat say leh ker Imam Mahdi (rahimullah alayhi ta'ala) kee pedaish taq kay arsay aur nuzul e Isa (alayhis salam), walay darmiyani arsay meh Ala Hazrat kee nazeer nah hoga. Taba Tabiyeen aur char Imamoon ko chor ker pedaish e Ala Hazrat taq, Sayyidi Ala Hazrat ka ilmi midaan meh kohi madd e muqabil nahin. Is leyeh aap kissi ko be daleel bana lenh Khadam Ala Hazrat kay mowaqif ko hee sahih aur haqiqat samajta heh aur meh is'see ko biyaan keroon ga. Khadam ko achi tera maloom heh kay kon say ikhtilafi masail hen is leyeh meh apnay dostoon aur Sunniyoon ko yahi advice deta hoon kay Ahle Sunnat meh agar kohi masla ikhtilafi ho jahay toh Ulamah aur awaam ko total silence ikhtiyar ker lena chahyeh. Keun kay jitnay logh is maslay meh peren gay utna masla bara hoga. Aur har banday kee zabt ek jesi nahin hoti is leyeh ek side ka banda jazbat meh kuch sakht kalamat kahay toh phir dosri party kay josheelay hazrat bee bardasht nahin kertay aur phir joh un kay saath ziyadti hoti heh us kee wazahat meh mimbar, TV per char jatay hen aur phir mukhalif party kay logh apna TV channel bana ker ya apnay bandon kay samnay sara issue biyan kertay hen aur Videos YOUTUBE per ana shoroon ho jati hen. Abhi kuch arsa pehlay hamaray Ahle Sunnat kay doh Mufti dari bilqul safed thee donoon kee. Ek nay ek maslay per Wahhabi mowaqif ko apnaya us per dosra joh traditional Ahle Sunnat aur Hanafi mowaqif ka representative thah, donoon kay darmiyan munazra huwa. Waja kia bani kay Ahle Sunnat kay representative nay dosray Mufti joh ghalti per thah us kee tanqeed kee munazra challengoon taq baat gahi, munazra huwa, aur joh baat do Muftiyoon kay darmiyan thee saray Ahle Sunnat meh pehal gaee. Aur nateeja yeh nikla kay abh is chotay say issue per do jamateh ban chuki hen joh apnay apnay mowaqif ko pehla rahi hen aur saath hee ikhtilaf ko be. Behtr yeh hota kay Ahle Sunnat Hanafi madhab ka Mufti khamosh rehta aur fatwah ussee tera deta joh Hanafi mowaqif heh aur us ko munazra waghera ka challenge taq nah leh ker jata. Nateeja kia hota, doh teen saal bad donoon buzurg faut ho jatay aur Ahle Sunnat micro sectarianism say bach jaati. Magar abh joh woh fasad chor ker jahen gay us ka nateeja Allah behtr janta heh kia nikla heh aur mazeed ki niklay ga. Joh Aalim Sunni ho aur us ka tareeq Ahle Sunnat kay mutabiq ho aur us ka asool Ahle Sunnat wala ho agar kissi ek maslay meh kohi ghalti kerta heh toh dar guzr ker deni chahyeh. Aur agar kohi Sunni Aalim esa rawaiya ikhtiyar keray kay sirf ek, do, masail nahin balkay bot say masail meh gumrahoon kay mowaqif ko apnahay aur phir difa keray toh us kay khilaaf zeroor bolna chahyeh. Aur essee doh shakhsiyaat Tahir Ul Qadir, dosra Rafzi Shia Abdul Qadir Tenchbatwi hen. Abdul Qadir ka qibla e ilm Shiat aur Tahir Ul Qadri ka qibla e fikr western ideals kay mutabiq Islam ko banana, Shiat. Khadam nay kafi arsa pehlay ek janab Aamir Ibrahim sahib thay joh apnay aap ko Sunni kehta thah magar Tahzir Un Naas kee ibarat ka difa aur Qasim Nanotavi, Ashraf Ali Thanvi, kay Islam kay leyeh taweelat kerta thah, khadam nay ussay samjaya aur hujjat kay baad us kee takfir kee jis kee zubani taeed Sayyidi Irfan Shah Sahib Mashadi nay gawa kee mojoodgi meh kee. Kafi maghz mari huwi, muj per bot say ilzaam lagay, hatta kay janab Aamir sahib nay apni likhi huwi ibarat say inqaar keeya. Aur kuch nah ban pera Aamir Sahib say toh ulta mujjay kazzab, dajjal, forgerer, gustakh e Sahabah o awliyah kay ilqaab say nawaz deeya, aur nateeja kia nikla joh Sunni pehlay mutafiq thay aur Wahhabiyoon kay khilaaf qamar band ker kharay thay abh un meh ittehad toot gaya. Sufi type logh joh Tariqat, Marifat, Haqiqat, Tasawwuf, peace, tolerance, roses, choclates, cute teddy bear, kee soch waloon nay us ka saath deeya aur joh thoray maulvi type thay unoon nay mera. Nateeja kia nikla ek ittehad toota aur Wahhabiyoon ko is ka faida huwa. Ham joh pehlay un kay khilaf thay ek dosray kay khilaf ho gahay. Joh meri thori ilmi credibility thee woh gahi, joh pehlay ihtibar kertay thay abh kazzab samaj ker door ho gahay. Aur joh thori izzat reh gahi thee woh jhootay ilzamat yehni gustakh e Sahabah o Awliyah kee waja say jaati rahi. Nateeja kia nikla joh thoray Sunni saath thay, ek, ek, kertay door ho gahay. Chalees pachas bandoon meh say sirf ek, do banday hen jinoon nay Aamir kay tactics ko samj kay saath deeya yeh Aamir sirf is leyeh MsAli per ilzaam laga raha heh kay is kee apni jaan pansi heh, magar majority door ho gai. Muj per personally is ka yeh effect huwa kay meh nay deeni mamulat say kinara kashi ker leeh aur orkut ko chor deeya. Wesay bee chor hee dena thah keun kay meray uncomprimising, unflinching attitude say saray tang thay, kohi community esi nahin thee jis say banned nah hoon aur kohi internet forum esa nahin jahan say banned nah huwa hoon apnay sakht rawaiyeh kee waja say. Hatta kay is forum say doh daffa banned ho chuka hoon pehlay. Magar tanhahi aur roz kee maghz mari behas say doori ka joh mujjay faida huwa. Ek dil meh narmi, aur dosra constructive kaam Ahle Sunnat kay nazriyat ko pesh kernay ka moqa milla. Aur apnay ek baee kay advice kee waja say yahan per ek dafa phir aya. Aap kay leyeh sabak yeh heh kay ikhtilafi masail meh bila zeroorat nah peren warna eman be kho bethen gay aur dost be. Ahle Sunnat kay wastay kaam keren kissi jammat ya maulvi ko faida kay leyeh nahin. Woh rawaiya, tareeka apna-hen jis say Ahle Sunnat ko faida ho aur koshish keren kay Ahle Sunnat meh ikhtilafi masail ko forums per nah laya keren, joh Sunni bat chukay hen un ko milahen.
  13. Ramzan kay maheenay meh behas nahin, keun gunna heh behas kerna Ramzan kay maheenay meh? Yeh aap nay kahan say biddat ijaad kee. Kia daleel heh aap kay pass is asool kee?
  14. Meh samajta hoon kay meray in char English articles meh khadam nay Ahle Sunnat kay mowaqif ko achi tera wazia keeya heh. Yeh do articles joh hen in meh mowaqif kee bunyad awal Quran say sabat kee gahi heh: - The Promised Destruction Preceeding Day Of Judgement Will Be Upon Kafirs & Mushrikeen. - The Justification For Collective Punishment Of Disbelievers & Polytheists Mankind After The Blowing Of Wind. In do articles meh khadam nay tafseelan hadith say sabat keeya heh kay ghair Musalman Arab woh butt parasti meh paren gay aur Shirk e akbar ummat e Muslim meh nahin hoga, balkay Arab Ummat meh hoga: - Believing Or Non-beleiving, Arab Or Non-Arab, Which Ummah Will Worship Idols? - Major Shirk Will Only Occur After Blowing Of Fragrant Musky Wind. Abh aatay hen aap kay sawalat kee taraf: = <> = 1, us kay baad ager shirk may mubtilah hongay to sunan abu daud ki hadith may ya kiun kaha gaya kay BAAZ QABIL muhsrikeen sa ja milien gay. jub koi momim musalman bachay ga hee nahi to nabi pak ko ya kehna chahiya tha kay mayri poori ummat shirk may mubtilah ho jai gi. baaaz ka kiun kaha? = <> = 1) Jin ko hadith meh 'Ummat kay qabail' kaha gaya heh un say muraad 'Arab kafiroon meh say woh qabail murad hen joh hawa chalnay kay bad Mushrik ho jahen gay.' Is wazahat say joh aap nay criticism pesh keeya: "momim musalman bachay ga hee nahi to nabi pak ko ya kehna chahiya tha kay mayri poori ummat shirk may mubtilah ho jai gi. baaaz ka kiun kaha?" us ka radd be ho gaya. Keun kay baaz Araboon kee takhsees dunya kay musalman say nahin balkay Arab Kafiron say heh, yehni Kafir Araboon meh say baaz Shirk kee taraf jahen gay aur butt parasti keren gay, Lat, Uzza, Manat, Dhi Al Khalasa etc kee ibadat keren gay. = <> = 2, sunan abu daud ki hadith say ya pata chalta hay kay BAAZ QABAIL shirk karien gay. is ka matlab howa bohat say nahi karien gay to sabit howa kay ya shirk wali baaat hawa chalnay wali say pehlay ki ho rahi hay. na kay baad may. kiun kay hawa chalnay kay baad to koi momini bachay ga hee nahi. = <> = Kafir Arab Ummat say baaz qabail ka Shirk kernay say yeh har giz daleel nahin lee ja sakti keh yeh hawa chalnay say pehlay hoga. Jis bunyad per aap nay yeh qiyaas keeya us ko jawab number 1 meh hee radd ker deeya ja chuka heh. Yaqeenan hawa chalnay kay baad kohi momin nahin bachay ga. Magar yeh mominoon say Mushrik hona nahin yeh Arab Kafiroon say baaz ka Mushrik hona heh. Aur is leyeh RasoolAllah nay farmaya: "Aur qayamat us waqt taq qaim nahin hogi jab taq meri [Arab Kafir] ummat kay kuch qabail mushrikoon say nah mil jahen aur yahan taq hoga kay meri [Arab Kafir] ummat kay kuch qabil button kee pooja keren gay." Is leyeh aap ka qiyaas batal heh joh bila daleel heh aur khadam kay mowaqif per alhamdulillah bot say ahadith hen joh meh nay pesh keeyeh hen articles me. Ja al haq wazaqal batil Muhammed Ali Razavi
  15. Wahhabiyoon ka aqeedah heh kay musalman ummat, Arabi aur Ajmi Shirk meh hawa kay chalnay say pehlay hee Shirk e akbar kay murtaqib huway hen. Khadam nay hadith say sabat keeya heh kay joh Ummat Shirk keray gee woh awal toh Arab hoon gay aur dosra Kafir hoon gay aur tesra yeh Shirk us waqt hoga jab saray Musalman mar chukay hoon gay. Yeh sab tafseel is article meh mojood heh: Believing Arab Or Non_Believing Arab - Which Ummah Will Worship Idols? Wahhabi la jawab hen aur rahen gay.
  16. The Justification For Collective Punishment Of Disbelievers & Polytheists Mankind After The Blowing Of Wind.
  17. Introduction: Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) sent Prophets to nations of past to teach the polytheists creed of monotheism, to encourage worship of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) alone, to teach Do’s and Don’ts. When ever a nation in totality, as whole, rejected the teaching of Prophet sent to them and transgressed the boundary which Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) had set with fair warning of punishment. Then if the disbelieving nation transgressed the boundary Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) inflicted punishment upon them. Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) sent our beloved Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu alayhi was’sallam) to all the mankind for guidance. His Arab Ummah believed in his Prophet-hood and religion of Islam prevailed over the Mushrikeen of Arabia. Since then the Muslims have been making effort to educate the non-Muslims of the world about Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu alayhi was’sallam) and his message of Islam. Once the Mankind has whole has received the information of Prophet Muhammad’s (sallalahu alayhi was’sallam) and have been educated about teaching of Islam. And when the mankind as whole rejects the message of Islam gates of repentace will be closed. Then Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) will send send a wind which will take the life of all Muslims. After which the collective punishment of mankind will begin. Rejection Of Prophet Nuh (alayhis salam) Message And Their Punishment: Prophet Nuh (alayhis salam) invited his nation toward the Tawheed of Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala): “Indeed, We sent Nuh to his people and he said: "O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah (i.e. god) but Him. Certainly, I fear for you the torment of a Great Day!" [Ref: 7:59] and in another verse same is stated: “And indeed We sent Nuh to his people, and he said: "O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah (i.e. god) but Him. Will you not then be afraid?" [Ref: 23:23] but they refused to believe in the Message of Prophet Nuh (alayhis salam). They replied: “... "Shall we believe in you, when the meanest (of the people) follow you?"” [Ref: 26:111] and they threatened Prophet Nuh (alayhis salam): “... "If you cease not, O Nuh you will surely be among those stoned (to death)." [Ref: 26:116] The polytheists of nation of Prophet Nuh (alayhis salam) went further and said: “... "O Nuh! You have disputed with us and much have you prolonged the dispute with us, now bring upon us what you threaten us with, if you are of the truthful." [Ref: 11:32] Then Prophet Nuh (alayhis salam) made dua saying: “And Nuh said: "My Lord! Leave not one of the disbelievers on the land!” [Ref: 71:26] So Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) insructed Nuh (alayhis salam) to: “... "Construct the ship under our eyes and under our revelation.” and then told him what will happen and what he needs to do befor embarking on ship: “Then, when our command comes, and water gushes forth from the oven, take on board of each kind two (male and female), and your family, except those thereof against whom the Word has already gone forth. And address Me not in favour of those who have done wrong. Verily, they are to be drowned.” [Ref: 23:27] In another verse Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) tells of what happened to those who disbelieved in the message of Tawheed brought to them by Prophet Nuh (alayhis salam): “And Nuh's people, when they denied the Messengers, We drowned them, and We made them as a sign for mankind. And We have prepared a painful torment for the Zalimun.” [Ref: 25:37] and in another verse similar is stated: “But they belied him, so We saved him and those along with him in the ship, and We drowned those who belied Our Ayat. They were indeed a blind people.” [Ref: 7:64] Transgression Of Prophet Salih's (alayhis salam) Nation And Their Destruction: Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) sent Prophet Salih (alayhis salam) to call them to Tawheed and worship of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) alone: “And to Thamud (people We sent) their brother Salih. He said: "O my people! Worship Allah, you have no other ilah (i.e. god) but Him. He brought you forth from the earth and settled you therein, then ask forgiveness of Him and turn to Him in repentance. Certainly, my Lord is Near, Responsive.” [Ref: 11:61] “And indeed We sent to Thamud their brother Salih, saying: "Worship Allah. Then look! They became two parties (believers and disbelievers) quarreling with each other." [Ref: 27:45] They in response to his call of Tawheed said: “… "O Salih! You have been among us as a figure of good hope till this! Do you forbid us the worship of what our fathers have worshipped? But we are really in grave doubt as to that to which you invite us (i.e. monotheism)." [Ref: 11:62] In response to them Prophet Salih (alayhis salam) reiterated; they have no God but Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) therefore worship Him alone. Also informed them of the female camel as a sign from Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and informed them of punishment if they harmed the she-camel: “… "O my people! Worship Allah! You have no other Ilah (i.e. God) but Him. Indeed there has come to you a clear sign from your Lord. This she-camel of Allah is a sign unto you; so you leave her to graze in Allah's earth, and touch her not with harm, lest a painful torment should seize you.” [Ref: 7:73] Prophet Salih (alayhis salam) made it clear to the polytheists of his Ummah; they were not to prevent the she-camel from drinking water: “But the Messenger of Allah said to them: "Be cautious! That is the she-camel of Allah! (Do not harm it) and bar it not from having its drink!" [Ref: 91: 13] Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) tells of sending of she-camel as a test for the polytheists: “Verily, We are sending the she-camel as a test for them. So watch them and be patient!” [Ref: 54:27] and part of signs to instill in the Mushrikeen fear of punishment: “… the people of old denied them. And We sent the she-camel to thamud as a clear sign, but they did her wrong. And We sent not the signs except to warn, and to make them afraid (of destruction).” [Ref: 17:59] Instead of fearing the punishment of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) they ham-strung the she-camel and said to Prophet Salih (alayhis salam): “Then they ham-strung the she-camel, and insolently defied the order of their Lord, saying: "O Salih! bring about thy threats, if thou art a messenger (of Allah)!" So the earthquake took them unawares, and they lay prostrate in their homes in the morning!” [Ref: 7:77/78] They further transgressed the boundary of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala): “But they called their comrade and he took (a sword) and killed (her).” [Ref: 54:29] Then Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) ordered the destruction of rebellious disbelieving nation: “And as for thamud, We showed and made clear to them the path of truth through Our Messenger but they preferred blindness to guidance; so the sa'iqah (i.e a destructive awful cry, torment, hit, a thunderbolt) of disgracing torment seized them because of what they used to earn.” [Ref: 41:17] And saved the Muslim followers of Prophet Salih (alayhis salam) with him: “So when Our Commandment came, We saved Salih and those who believed with him by a Mercy from Us, and from the disgrace of that Day. Verily, your Lord - He is the All-Strong, the All-Mighty.” [Ref: 11:66] The Method Of Allah's (subhanahu wa ta'ala) Punishment: Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) states how He destroyed the nations before Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam): “So We punished each (of them) for his sins; of them were some on whom We sent Hasib , and of them were some who were overtaken by As-Saiqah (i.e. relentless storm of stones), and of them were some whom We caused the earth to swallow, and of them were some whom We drowned. It was not Allah Who wronged them, but they wronged themselves.” [Ref: 29:40] This verse indicates tool used by Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) to punish rebellious, disbelieving nations were natural disasters. And this type of punishment was never meted out until the people to whom the Prophets were sent completely, absolutely as whole Ummah denied, rejected the Messenger and the message given to him: “(They were reprieved) until, when the Messengers gave up hope and thought that they were denied (by their people), ...” The verse continues and states that out of many who were destined to perish some believers Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) saved: “... then came to them Our Help, and whomsoever We willed were rescued. Further on Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) makes it clear; the punishment which Allah (subahanahu wa ta'ala) has destined cannot be prevented: “And Our punishment cannot be warded off from the people who are Mujrimun (i.e. criminals, sinners, disbelievers, polytheists).” [Ref: 12:110] Logic Behind The Universal Punishment Of Mankind: Each nation was sent a Prophet, a Messenger to guide them to religion of Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) and when ever a nation refused to believe in a Messenger or mocked a Messenger or transgressed the boundaries which were set by Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) then Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) exacted punishment to upon them in various ways. Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) briefly mentions the justification for inflicting punishment upon the nations, towns, which transgressed against the explicit commands of Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala): “And never will your Lord destroy the towns until He sends to their mother town a Messenger reciting to them Our Verses. And never would We destroy the towns unless the people thereof are Zalimun.” [Ref: 28:59] and this is made clear in another verse: “And your Lord would never destroy the towns wrongfully, while their people were right-doers.” [Ref: 11:117] Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) informs about the fixing of time for the punishment: “And these towns We destroyed them when they did wrong. And We appointed a fixed time for their destruction.” [Ref: 18:59] and those disbelieved in the message of Prophet Muhammad's (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) also have been given a time: “And if not for [the decree of] a specified term, punishment would have reached them.” [Ref: 29:53] Note Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) was sent to all the Mankind and Jinkind[1] therefore the punishment exacted would be upon all the disbelievers of earth. The point of no return, the specified time is mentioned by Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) as being two qualifiers; death of all Muslims and closing of gate of repentance: “But Allah would not punish them while you are among them and Allah would not punish them while they seek forgiveness.”[2] [Ref: 8:33] and another verse Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) instructs Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was’sallam) to warn his non-believing Ummah: “But if they turn away, then say: "I have warned you of a sa'iqah like the sa'iqah which overtook 'Ad and thamud (people)." [Ref: 41:13] Conclusion: When ever a nation disbelieved in the message given to a Messenger Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) punished the disbelievers. Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) states about the stories of past nations mentioned in Quran there: “There is, in their stories, instruction for men endued with understanding. It is not a tale invented, but a confirmation of what went before it,- a detailed exposition of all things, and a guide and a mercy to any such as believe.” [Ref:12:111] From analyzing the stories of previous nations their rejections of messages given to them by their Prophets and their punishment, spells out; when a people as whole, to whom a Messenger is sent but they choose to disbelieve in him, in his teachings, then in this state the disbelievers reach deadline set by Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala). After which Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) utterly, completely anahilates them for their disbelief. Thus the anahilation of inhabitants of earth is certain because Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) has been sent to mankind. Mankind will collectively will disbelieve in his message of Islam after Imam Mahdi and Isa (alayhis salam) will take the message, teaching of Islam to every household throughout the world. Then those who are ignorant of teaching of Islam in Europe, America, and all over the world will collectively disbelieve in Prophet-hood of Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam). And then the Sunnah of Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) not punishing the disbelievers until they choose to disbelieve in a Prophet and his message would be fulfilled and the justification for collective punishment of mankind will then exist. Some time after Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) will cause the Muslims to die thus fulfilling his other promise of punishing the disbelievers while the Muslims are amongst them. Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen. Muhammad Ali Razavi Footnotes: - [1] Our beloved Prophet Muhammad (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) was sent to all mankind: “Whatever of good reaches you, is from Allah, but whatever of evil befalls you, is from yourself. And We have sent you as a Messenger to mankind, and Allah is Sufficient as a Witness.” [Ref: 4:79] in another verse Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) affirms: “Blessed be He Who sent down the criterion to His slave that he may be a warner to the 'Alamin (mankind and jinn).” [Ref: 25:1] And ahadith affirm that Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) was sent to all the mankind: “I have been given the right of intercession (on the Day of Resurrection). Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation only but I have been sent to all mankind.” [Ref: Bukhari, B7, H331] “Every Prophet used to be sent to his nation exclusively but I have been sent to all mankind. I have been given the right of intercession.” [Ref: Bukhari, B8, H429] “I have been sent to all mankind and the line of prophets is closed with me.” [Ref: Bukhari, B4, H1062] - [2] Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) explains why he would not inflict punishment upon the disbelievers of Makkah; the presence of Muslims: “They are the ones who disbelieved, and hindered you from Al-Masjid-al-Haram and the sacrificial animals, detained from reaching their place of sacrifice. Had there not been believing men and believing women whom you did not know, that you may kill them, and on whose account a sin would have been committed by you without (your) knowledge, that Allah might bring into His Mercy whom He will, if they should have been apart, We verily had punished those of them who disbelieved, with painful torment.” [Ref: 48:25]
  18. 1) Mureed nay joh kuch khawab meh pera us per kohi ihtiraz nahin. Jab woh jaga toh phir us nay thanvi sahib per darood in ilfaaz meh pera: "Allahumma salli ala sayyidina wa nabeeyina wa maulana Ashraf Ali ...".[1] yehni: Allah behij apni barkateh hamaray Sayyid per, aur hamaray Nabi aur Maula Ashraf Ali per ..." Aur yeh scan page heh aap laz NABIYYINA (i.e. hamaray Nabi) ko scan page meh dekh saktay hen. Note keryeh ga, lafz wa yehni aur tafseelia heh, yehni Sayyidi, Nabi, kay ilfaaz Thanvi kay leyeh istimal huway hen. Jis tera jumla: 'Yeh apple sabz aur peela heh.' meh 'aur' lafz apple kee ek aur khoobi ko biyan kay wastay istimal huwa heh aur yeh mana nahin leeya jahay ga kay apple sabz aur cheez heh aur Peela aur cheez. Is ko Wa tafseelia kehtay hen is leyeh hamaray Sayyid aur hamaray Nabi Thanvi Sahib kay leyeh istimal huway hen. Alhasil agar aap mureed kay darood meh lafz wa yehni aur kee taweel keren kay yeh wa izaafi yehni hamaray Sayyid = Thanvi, aur hamaray nabi = Nabi Muhammad sallalahu alayhi was'sallam, toh yeh taweel qabool nah hogi keun kay darood meh wa hamesha say tafseelia istimal huwa heh. Aur mureed kay darood ko istera pera jahay ga: Allah behij apni barkateh hamaray Sayyid per ...." aur phir yeh jumla poora pera jahay aur hamaray Nabi aur Maula Ashraf Ali per ..." Be'ikhtiyari ka kohi uzr qabool nahin. Keun kay agar kohi banda Thanvi kee beti, biwi, behan say ham bisteri kerta aur apnay jurm kay ihtiraf meh kehta be'ikhtiyari meh kerta gaya badan o feham per qabooh nah thah, toh yeh uzr kohi Deobandi qabool nahin keray ga aur nah kohi Musalman. Balkay shariat kay mutabiq us per hokam aur sazza dee jahay gee. Agar aap kay bet'h meh abh dard ho aur aap complain keren kay mujjay Thanvi ke beti, biwi, behan kay mutaliq yeh nahin likhna chahyeh thah yeh nazeba heh aur meh jawaban kahoon be'ikhtiyari meh likhta gaya meri soch o hathoon per kohi control nah raha balkay meh nay lakh koshish kee kay nah likhoon magar likh deeya. Toh imandari say kia aap meray is uzr ko qabool keren gay? Jab aap bunyad samj gahay hen toh abh aap kay sawal ka jawab. Janab deen e mateen meh fatwah zahir per fatwah deeya jata heh joh iqrarum bil lisaani heh, aur ham tasdeequm bil qalb ko jantay nahin aur nah fatwah detay hen. Is waja say Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat Imam e Ahle Islam o Sunnat nay mureed kay moon say niklay huway jumloon ko kuffr gina. 2) Halat e bedaari meh bazahir ibarat say yahni sabat hota heh kay kalma nahin pera gaya aur zahir say yahi sabat heh kay darood pera gaya jis meh Thanvi sahib ko Nabi mana gaya. Thanvi sahib kay mureed ka Thanvi sahib ka kalmah sara din perna fine detail say sabat heh jis kee wazahat post 45 meh aahi heh. Mureed nay toh kufr keeya magar Thanvi Sahib bi us kay kufr per raazi huway aur joh kuffr sar'ree per raazi ho Kafir heh. Thanvi sahib joh sahib e ilm aur asool o zawabat e deenia ko jantay thay un ko chahyeh thah kay mureed ko kuffr kee waheed say daratay baja'hay esa kernay kay apni Peeri chamkanay kee khatar khud ko muta-beh sunnat tehraya: "Is waqia meh tasalli thee ke jis kee taraf tum ruju kertay ho ba'una ta'ala mutta-beh sunnat heh." Note keryeh ga Thanvi sahib khawab kee baat nahin ker rahay balkay saray WAQIA, WHOLE INCIDENT kee baat ker rahay hen is waja say Thanvi Sahib mureed kay kuffr per raazi huway aur kuffr per raazi hona kuffr heh aur kissi sahib e ilm o firasat kay bakkay huway kuffr ko acha jan'na kuffr heh. Yad kerwa doon kay mureed ka kuffr yeh thah kay us nay Thanvi sahib ko apna Nabi mana. Akhir lafz: Meray baee khuda kay banday hammeh kia zeroorat heh kay bila waja kissi ko Kafir kahen ya hamaray Ulamah ko kia zeroorat heh kay bila waja kissi ko Kafir keh ker apnay Islam ko danger meh dalen. Kia aap samajtay hen kay sirf aap kay pass hee sirf Quran aur Hadith pauncha heh aur kissi kay pass nahin? Aur aap kay andar hee imandari, gherat e imani ka mada bara heh? Meray baee eman bot keemati cheez heh is ko bachen. Zeroori nahin kay har aalim darust ho, kohi banda be apnay imaan ko, apni aakhirat ko jaan boojh ker kharab nah keray ga. Sayyidi Ala Hazrat kay mowaqif kee wazahat khadam nay ker deeh heh, baqi yeh aap per heh kay aap is ko qabool keren gay ya firqawarana tassub meh aa ker aap issay shaytaan ka was'wassa tehra ker chor denh gay. Note keryeh ga khadam muft kee maghz-mari ko pasand nahin kerta is leyeh agar aap nay kohi tareekay saleekay kee post likhi ya sawal keeya jis say zahir hota ho kay aap nay Ala Hazrat kay mowaqif ko samaj ker post, sawal keeya heh toh phir khadam shahid jawab deh. Warna aap apnay forums per jaa ker jeet kee baghlen bajahen; ham nay Muhammad Ali Razavi ko baga deeya, ala la ala ala la la la, aur dialoges marna ta'kay aap kay dil kee jalan niklay. Khadam es'say bagnay ko izzat aur ayn Quran kee taleem samajta heh. Muhammad Ali Razavi
  19. As Salamu alayqum wr wb Sirat e Mustaqeem Aur Ikhtilaf e Ummat, yeh kitab pernay kay bad mujjay yaqeen huwa kay maulvi hazrat be jhoot boltay hen. Kitab meh likhta heh kay Deobandiyoon aur Sunniyoon meh kohi ikhtilaf kee waja nahin heh, Donoon, Hanafi, Maturidi, Sufi, waghera hen. Ilm e Ghayb kay mozoo per likhta heh kay RasoolAllah (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) ko Ilm e ghayb nahin deeya gaya, aur Surah Jin kee ayat 26 pesh kerta heh apnay daway ko sabat kernay kay leyeh. Yeh bot purani baat heh jab meh new Sunni huwa thah mera munazra thah ilm e ghayb kay mozoo per. Deobadi nay yeh kitab pesh kee kay itna bara alam yeh kehta heh kay ilm ghayb nahin heh tum kon ho joh kaho kay heh. Meh nay kaha kay yeh kitab meh nay peri heh aur maulvi jhoot bolta heh is meh aur jaan boojh ker ghalt biyani kerta heh, meh nay sura Jin kee ayaat 26 aur 27 ka awal hissa per ker sunaya aur kaha abh. Bas phir summun bukmun umyunn ho gaya Deobandi. Yeh kitab jhoot kay ilawa kuch nahin. Deobandiat kee rawayati be-hayahi, be-gherati, makr o fareb, dajjaal ka dajjl heh. Is'see kism kay jhooton aur fareboon say yeh sada aur kam feham awaam ko apnay saath laga letay hen. Yeh logh jaan booj ker apnay ikhtilafat ko chupatay hen taqay jitnay kam ikhtilafat ka bataya jahay ga utna ek jahil sunni ko Deobandi bananay meh asaani hogi. Misaal kay tor per agar ek wolf ka sara roop bakri wala bana denh aur qaan, dum, wohi rehnay denh toh bakriyan wolf kee ek doh sifat ko dar guzr ker denh gee aur mast ho ker gumti rahen gee. Magar jab wolf apnay asli roop meh ahay toh bakriyan teetnay (mirpuri, Urdu; atkaliyan) kerti huwi bag jahen gee. Bas yeh logh wolf to hen magar bakri kay roop meh atay hen aur agar kohi aqalmand bakri kahay kay ikhtilaf kia heh ham meh aur aap meh toh chota sa kohi point biyan ker detay hen aur sath keh detay hen kohi bari baat nahin yeh, yeh chota masla heh kohi farq nahin perta. Aur phir bakri motmin ho jati heh keun kay dari wala banda, hajji, namazi, deen kee tableegh kernay wala banda ussay bata raha heh kay kohi khaas bat nahin sirf maulvi apnay ropay pesay kay leeyeh lara rahay hen. Agar yeh saray ikhtilafat bata denh toh logh in say bagen, magar yeh pehlay toh batatay hee nahin aur agar bata denh toh phir is kazzab, al Maseeh ad dajjal kee tera jhoot boltay hen: Banda hiraan reh jata heh kay ya Allah in logoon kay pass kesa zameer heh kay yeh sab kuch jantay huway be jhoot bol detay hen. Aur hamara tareeqah kia heh, ham pehlay beth ker joh kohi Deobandi Wahhabi milta heh us ko sara ikhtilaf batata detay hen, is is is is waja say hamaray maulviyon nay aap kay falan falan falan maulviyoon ko kaffir kaha heh aur nateeja yeh nikalta heh kay woh baag jatay hen aur phir dobara salam dua be nahin kertay. Keun kay jistera hamaray Sunni apnay Peeron kee atahat meh mutashadid [aur Ulamah ko gali galoch kertay hen] yeh log apnay Ulamah kee atahat meh issee tera mutashadid hen aur apnay Ulamah kay baray meh kohi baat sunna gawara nahin kertay chahay jaiz ho ya na-najaiz. Aur hamaray Sunni, jab taq us kay Peer ko kuch nah kaho aur us kee sufiat per raazi raho, toh phir khud Deobandiyoon, aur wahhabiyoon kay saath mil ker Ulamah Ahle Sunnat ko gali galoch kertay hen jesay yeh sawab ka kaam heh. Aur jin kay leyeh sakht, aur dukh denay walay ilfaaz ka istimal dena jaiz heh jis say unnay aziat, dil azari, ho un kay leyeh kabi kohi lafz nahin bolen gay, keun kay phir INSAANIAT, SUFIAT, TASSAWUF, MODERN ACADEMIC SPIRIT, kay khilaaf heh. Aur saath yeh be kahen gay deen is kee ijazat nahin deta.
  20. اعراف (7) آیات 194: "بے شک تم جنہیں پکارتے ہو الله کے سوا، وہ تمارے جیسے بندے ہیں، پھر انیں پکارو، تو چاہئے تممیں جواب دیں اگر تم سچے ہو." Khadam nay ek dafa phir Waseem Mughal Sahib ko jawab likhnay ka irada keeya heh keun kay pehlay per bahana banaya thah kay samaj nahin aahi meh nay socha chalo simple likh doon. Kam say kam bahana toh nah bana sakkay.
  21. Mushrikeen Believed Their Idols To Be Allah's Subordinate Gods. Introduction: During many discussions with Wahhabi's on various issues relating to Tawassul it was noted that they believe; Mushrikeen of Makkah were declared Mushrikeen for taking intercessors, protectors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) and not for taking idol-gods as partners with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Some even held to opinion that Mushrikeen did not take their idols to be gods but they considered them as creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) as such they took them as intercessors, protectors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala).[1] and due to this belief of Mushrikeen; Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) declared them Mushrikeen in Qur’an. And in a recent discussion in which the Wahhabi's position was that use of Taweez is Shirk and the people who use Taweez are Mushrikeen; when the Wahhabi was cornered with correct understanding regarding use of Medicine/Taweez.[2] Tactically he made the fallowing statement: 'If this is the case then Ali even the Mushrikeen of Makkah were not guilty of Shirk because they did not expect anything from their Idols directly.'[3] then he asked me thought provoking question: 'So what is the difference between your belief and the belief of Mushrikeen?'[4] To which my answer was clear and unambiguous: "My belief is 'La ilaha il Allah.' and the Mushrikeen took their idols as gods as partners with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) and for this reason they were declared Mushrikeen." To which the Wahhabi replied; “Mushrikeen did not take their idols as gods but they took Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) has their God and took the idols as intercessors with Him.”[5] I informed him to believe in what he stated and disbelieve in position of Ahle Sunnat is clear cut kuffr. A indirect, implicit denial, rejection of many verses of the Qur’an which unambiguously establish Mushrikeen of Makkah took their idols as gods.[6] With this I ended the discussion and refused to hear another word in order to prevent him from further deviation into apostasy. Advised him to read on the topic and seek clarification from Wahhabi scholars and promised him that I will write something to explain, establish the position of Ahle Sunnat so he might benefit from it. Propagation of half truths by proponents of Wahhabi'ism; Mushrikeen believed in Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) as a God. Add to this faulty understanding of Shirk as'Sifaat[7] then compound it by preaching; Mushrikeen took their idols as intercessors for which they were declared Mushrikeen. Based on this the juhala of Wahhabi sect come to conclusion; “The Arabs were declared Mushrikeen for taking intercessors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala).” And when they are confronted with; no they were declared Mushrikeen because they took their idols as gods and as subordinate gods to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala), they reject it. Hence the focus of this article would be to establish with clear evidence of Qur’an, Sunnah; Arabs were declared as Mushrikeen for elevating their idols as subordinate gods to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Historical Origins Of Some Idols Of Mushrikeen: Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) quotes Mushrikeen as stating: "And they [the Mushrikeen] have said [to other Mushrikeen]: 'You shall not leave your gods: nor shall you leave Wadd, nor Suwa', nor Yaghuth, nor Ya'uq nor Nasr.” [Ref:71:23] These associates of Mushrikeen of Arabia originally were worshiped by people of Nuh (alayhis salam): “All the idols which were worshiped by the people of Noah were worshiped by the Arabs later on. As for the idol Wadd, it was worshiped by the tribe of Kalb at Daumat-al-Jandal; Suwa' was the idol of (the tribe of) Murad and then by Ban, Ghutaif at Al-Jurf near Saba; Yauq was the idol of Hamdan, and Nasr was the idol of Himyr, the branch of Dhi-al-Kala.'” Then the hadith goes on to reveal: “The names (of the idols) formerly belonged to some pious men of the people of Noah, and when they died Satan inspired their people to prepare and place idols at the places where they used to sit, and to call those idols by their names.” Under the influence of Shaytaan's misguidance the people did as Shaytaan wished: “... but the idols were not worshiped till those people (who initiated them) had died and the origin of the idols had become obscure, whereupon people began worshiping them.” [Ref: Bukhari, B60, H442] Some of the Mushrikeen of Makkah worshiped Lat, Uzza, Manat, whom they called daughters[8] of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) addressing these goddesses[9] states: “Have you seen Lat and Uzza. And other, the third, Manat?” [Ref: 53:19/20] The next two verses point out to the Mushrikeen their dislike of having daughters yet attribute to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) daughters and then Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states about these female deities: “These are nothing but names which you have devised,- you and your fathers,- for which Allah has sent down no authority (whatever). They follow nothing but conjecture and what their own souls desire! Even though there has already come to them Guidance from their Lord!” [Ref: 53:23] in another verse of the Qur’an: "If not Him, ye worship nothing but names which ye have named,- ye and your fathers,- for which Allah hath sent down no authority: the command is for none but Allah. He hath ...” [Ref: 12:40] Idol Of Mushrikeen In Kabah: The Arab Mushrikeen had hundreds of gods which they worshiped When Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) conquered the city of Makkah and entered with honor, dignity as a conqueror he marched to Kabah. There were three hundred-and-sixty idols situated in and around the Kabah: “He started stabbing the Idols with a stick he had in his hand and reciting: "Truth (Islam) has come and Falsehood (disbelief) has vanished." [Ref: Bukhari, B43, H658] and in another hadith fallowing addition is made to words of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam): “Lo! falsehood was destined to vanish.” “Truth has arrived, and falsehood can neither create anything from the beginning nor can It restore to life.”[10] [Ref: Muslim, B19, H4397] Next Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) refused to enter the kabah with idols in it so he ordered idols to be taken out: “So they were taken out. The people took out the pictures of Abraham and Ishmael holding Azlams in their hands. Allah's Apostle said, "May Allah curse these people. By Allah, both Abraham and Ishmael never did the game of chance with Azlams." Then Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) entered the Kabah and said: “Takbir at its corners but did not offer the prayer in it.” [Ref: Bukhari, B26, H671] Mushrikeen Of Arabia Took Their Idols As Gods Like Previous Nations: Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) narrates the story of Ibrahim (alayhis salam) when he asked the Mushrikeen of his Ummah: “When he said to his father and his people: "What do you worship?" They said: "We worship idols[11] and to them we are ever devoted." Prophet Ibrahim (alayhis salam) asked them about their idols: “... "Do they hear you, when you call on (them)? "Or do they benefit you or do they harm (you)?" [Ref: 71: 70/73] In another verse Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) is instructed to question the Mushrikeen of Makkah with similar question about the idols of Mushrikeen of Makkah: “... "How do you worship besides Allah something which has no power either to harm or benefit you? But it is Allah Who is the All-Hearer, All-Knower." [Ref: 5:76] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) informs the Mushrikeen of Makkah: “And they worship besides Allah things that harm them not, nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah." [Ref: 10:18] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states; even though the idols are unable to benefit or harm, or hear, or see, or create and possess no power over death or raising people to life the Mushrikeen have taken these idols as gods: “Yet they have taken besides Him other gods (i.e. alihah) who created nothing but are themselves created, and possess neither harm nor benefit for themselves, and possess no power (of causing) death, nor (of giving) life, nor of raising the dead.” [Ref: 25:3] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) questions the Mushrikeen Makkah:“Do they attribute as partners to Allah those who created nothing but they themselves are created?” [Ref: 7:191] Exact meaning are revealed when the bani Israel crossed the sea they saw a group of people worshiping idols: “... and they came upon a people devoted to some of their idols (in worship).” Then shaytaan misguided them and bani Israel asked: "O Musa (Moses)! Make for us a god (i.e. idol) like they have gods (i.e. idols)." He said: "Verily, you are a people who know not." [Ref: 7:138] Prophet Musa (alayhis salam) pointed to the enormity of the sin which they asked him to commit by asking him to create a idol god for them. And drawing from the historical event of Musa (alayhis salam), Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) addressing the Mushrikeen of Makkah states: “Those whom they (Al-Mushrikun ) invoke besides Allah have not created anything, but are themselves created.” [Ref: 16:20] Meaning, Mushrikeen you call upon in worship to idols which are created by your own hands and they the idols have not created anything in creation of Allah, not even a fly: “... Verily those on whom you call besides Allah, cannot create (even) a fly, even though they combine together for the purpose. And if the fly snatches away a thing from them, they will have no power to release it from the fly. So weak are (both) the seeker and the sought.” [Ref: 22:73] In another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states that those idols who can not create anything and are created by the hands of people who worship them are gods: “Yet they have taken besides Him other gods (i.e. alihah) who created nothing but are themselves created, and possess neither harm nor benefit for themselves, and possess no power (of causing) death, nor (of giving) life, nor of raising the dead.” [Ref: 25:3] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) quotes the language Mushrikeen of Makkah used to slander Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) because he called them to Tawheed of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): “And (they) said: "Are we going to abandon our gods for the sake of a mad poet?" [Ref: 37:36] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) relates in Qur’an how the Mushrikeen of Makkah made a habit of mocking Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam): “And when those who disbelieved see you [O Prophet Muhammad] they take you not except for mockery (saying): "Is this the one who talks (badly) about your gods?" [Ref: 21:36] Another verse records the efforts of Mushrikeen to preserve their idolatry: “And the leaders [of Mushrikeen from] among them went forth, [saying] "Continue, and be patient over [the defense of] your gods. Indeed, this is a thing intended.” [Ref: 38:6] In another verse the leaders of Mushrikeen have been recorded as alleging Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) would mislead them if they were to accept his teachings of Tawheed: "He would have nearly misled us from our gods, had it not been that we were patient and constant in their worship!" [Ref: 25:42] When Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) warned the Mushrikeen of the punishment if they did not give up idol worship and believe in the teaching of Qur’an the leaders of Mushrikeen said: “..."Have you come to turn us away from our alihah (gods)? Then bring us that with which you threaten us, if you are one of the truthful!" [Ref: 46:22] The Mushrikeen were so accustomed to their polytheistic centered world that when Prophet (sallalalahu alayhi was'sallam) proclaimed the message of Tawheed: “Your Ilah (i.e. god) is One Ilah (i.e. god). But for those who believe not in the Hereafter, their hearts deny [the belief in Unity Of Allah] and they are proud.” [Ref: 16:22] “He is the Living (One): There is no god but He: Call upon Him, giving Him sincere worship. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds!” [Ref: 40:65] They replied in amazement and surprise: “Has he made the gods (all) into one God? Truly this is a strange thing!” [Ref: 38:4/5] Mushrikeen Believed In Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): Mushrikeen of Arabia believed in Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) their supreme God created the space, earth who controlled the amoor e azaam (i.e. great affairs) of universe: “And if you were to ask them who created the heavens and the earth, they would surely say “Allah!” [Ref: 29:61] and same is affirmed in another verse: “If thou shouldst ask them: Who created the heavens and the earth? they would answer: Allah. Say: Praise be to Allah! But most of them know not.” [Ref: 31:25] Also believed that mercy as well as punished is ordained by Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) and only He can avert the punishment and withhold his mercy. Hence Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) informs them of their actions: "If indeed, you ask them who is it that created the heavens and the earth, they would be sure to say, 'Allah'. Say : See you then the things that you invoke besides Allah? Can they, if Allah wills some penalty for me, remove His penalty?[12] Or if He will some grace for me, can they keep back His grace ?" [Ref: 39:38] In another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) gives example of how truly and firmly the Mushrikeen believe; Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) punishes, averts punishment and grants mercy: “And when harm touches you upon the sea, those that you call upon besides Him are lost from you – except Him (Allah alone). But when He brings you safely to land, you turn away (from Him). And man is ever ungrateful.” [Ref: 17:67] They turn away from Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in meaning; they attribute their safe return to their idol gods: "Allah has said: "Take not (for worship) two gods: for He is just One Allah. then fear Me (and Me alone)." ... Yet, when He removes the distress from you, behold! some of you turn to other gods to join with their Lord." [Ref: 16:51/54] In another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) instructs Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) to say to the Mushrikeen: "...who is it that sustains you (in life) from the sky and from earth?”[13] Or who is it that has power over hearing and sight?[14] And who is it that brings the living from the dead and the dead from the living?[15] And who is it that rules and regulates all affairs? They will quickly say, Allah. Say : Will you not then show piety to Him'' [Ref: 10:31] and the questioning of Mushirkeen continues: “Say: Unto Whom (belongeth) the earth and whosoever is therein, if ye have knowledge? They will say: Unto Allah.[16] Say: Will ye not then remember? Say: Who is Lord of the seven heavens, and Lord of the Tremendous Arsh? They will say: Unto Allah (all that belongeth).[17] Say: Will ye not then keep duty (unto Him)? Say: In Whose hand is the dominion over all things and He protecteth, while against Him there is no protection, if ye have knowledge? They will say: Unto Allah (all that belongeth). Say: How then are ye bewitched? “[Ref: 23:84-89] Keeping with the theme of heavens and earth Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states what the Mushrikeen would say if there were asked: “Who created the heavens and the earth, and constrained the sun and the moon (to their appointed work)? they would say: Allah. How then are they turned away? [...] And if thou wert to ask them: Who causeth water to come down from the sky, and therewith reviveth the earth after its death? they verily would say: Allah. Say: Praise be to Allah! But most of them have no sense.” [Ref: 29:61-63] Mushrikeen Associated Their Idol-Gods As Partners Of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) quotes Mushrikeen belonging to Prophet Hud's (alayhis salam) Ummah: “They said: "O Hud! No evidence have you brought us, and we shall not leave our gods for your (mere) saying! And we are not believers in you. All that we say is that some of our gods have seized you with evil (madness)." In response to the Mushrikeen Prophet Hud (alayhis salam) is reported to have said: "I call Allah to witness and bear you witness that I am free from that which you ascribe as partners in worship with Him (Allah). So plot against me, all of you, and give me no respite.” [Ref: 11:53/55] Just as Prophet Hud (alayhis salam) disassociated from associating god-partners to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) was instructed to: “Say: "I invoke only my Lord (Allah Alone) and I associate none as partners along with Him." [Ref: 72:20] and in another verse he was instructed ask the Mushrikeen to invoke their god-partners to punish him: “Say "Call your (so-called) partners (of Allah) and then plot against me, and give me no respite!” [Ref: 7:195] And this was to establish that their idol god-partners of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) are unable, hear, see, benefit or to do any harm: “Say: "How do you worship besides Allah something which has no power either to harm or benefit you? But it is Allah Who is the All-Hearer, All-Knower." [Ref: 5:76] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) questions about the equal-partners[18] which the Mushrikeen attributed with Him: “Do they attribute as partners to Allah those who created nothing but they themselves are created?” Meaning, the partners which the Mushrikeen assign to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) they are created by the hands of Mushrikeen (i.e. idols) and these idols do not create anything in creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). The verse continues: “No help can they give them, nor can they help themselves.” Meaning the partner idol-gods can not help the Mushrikeen nor these attributed partners to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) can help themselves.[19] Further Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states about these so called partners of His: “And if you call them to guidance, they follow you not. It is the same for you whether you call them or you keep silent.” [Ref: 7:191/193] Meaning if you call the idol-gods they can not hear your call for aid O Mushrikeen:[20]“Yet they have taken besides Him other gods (i.e. alihah) who created nothing but are themselves created, and possess neither harm nor benefit for themselves, and possess no power (of causing) death, nor (of giving) life, nor of raising the dead.” [Ref: 25:3] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in refutation to the creed of Mushrikeen states: “Or have they a god other than Allah? Exalted is Allah far above the things they associate with Him!” [Ref: 52:43] and in another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states about the partners which the Mushrikeen attributed to Him: “Behold! verily to Allah belong all creatures, in the heavens and on earth. And what do those who pray to the partners instead of Allah, follow? They follow nothing but conjecture, and they do nothing but make guesses.” [Ref: 10:66] Idols As Subordinate God-Partners Of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): It is reported when the Mushrikeen performed Tawaf around the Kabah their version of Talbiyah consisted of words: “Here I am at Thy service, there is no associate with Thee.” The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Woe be upon them, as they also said: “But one associate with Thee, you possess mastery over him, but he does not possess mastery (over you).” They used to say this and circumnavigate the Ka'ba.” [Ref: Muslim, B7, H2671] This establishes, Mushrikeen believed Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is the supreme God who is in control of all gods but no god is in control of Him. Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) commenting on this belief of Mushrikeen that Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is the master of their gods and they are his servants states: “He sets forth for you a parable from your own-selves: Do you have partners among those whom your right hands possess (i.e your slaves) to share as equals in the wealth We have bestowed on you whom you fear as you fear each other? Thus do We explain the signs in detail to a people who have sense.” [Ref: 30:28] And objective is to point out to Mushrikeen that the slaves which you posses as your property do not have equal right on property of slave-owner nor they are your equals. Then how can the subordinate gods who are servants of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) be equals in with Him! Either they the gods of Mushrikeen are equals of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in godhood or they are his servants If they are equals with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) then they have no master over them and if they are servants then they can not be equals. Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) refutes their polytheistic creed in various ways: “Allah sets forth the Parable (of two men: one) a slave under the dominion of another; He has no power of any sort; and (the other) a man on whom We have bestowed goodly favors from Ourselves, and he spends thereof (freely), privately and publicly: are the two equal? (By no means;) praise be to Allah. But most of them understand not.” [Ref: 16:75] Meaning one who is slave to another can not do freely as he pleases but one who is free from authority of another can do as he pleases. And in context the implications are gods which are subject to authority of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) would be restricted, slaves, unable to carry out anything on their own because their Master the Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) would have authority over them, to whom they will have to report. In the next verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) give another example: “Allah sets forth (another) Parable of two men: one of them dumb, with no power of any sort; a wearisome burden is he to his master; whichever way be directs him, he brings no good: is such a man equal with one who commands Justice, and is on a Straight Way? “ [Ref: 16:76] Implication is that a idol-god which has no power what so ever and it is burden to its owner. Regardless of it being invoked for aid, brings no good. Compared to such dumb useless idol-god, Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is one who instructs justice and is on straight way. In another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states: “Allah puts forth a similitude: a (slave) man belonging to many partners (like those who worship others along with Allah) disputing with one another, and a (slave) man belonging entirely to one master. Are those two equal in comparison? All the praises and thanks be to Allah! But most of them know not.” [Ref: 39:29] Indicating that if there were more then one god then one person would be slave to many gods and these gods would argue, dispute with each other over how a person should behave, and how a creation should be, causing confusion, chaos: “!If there were, in the heavens and the earth, other gods besides Allah, there would have been confusion in both! but glory to Allah, the Lord of the Throne: (High is He) above what they attribute to Him!” [Ref: 21:22] And if there was One Master then he would be the only one to decide how the slave should behave and how creation should be designed. After informing them of the confusion and chaos that would be in the universe Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) questions them: “Are those two [systems of belief] equal in comparison?”[21] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) gives another reason why the belief in many gods is absurd: “Allah has not taken any son, nor has there ever been with Him any god. [if there had been], then each god would have taken what it created, and some of them would have sought to overcome others. Exalted is Allah above what they describe [concerning Him].” [Ref: 23:91] Meaning, had there been gods with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) then each god would have taken his created living beings to his own created heavens, earth, and would have attempted to over throw the other gods dominion with aim of presiding over it as god. And Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) refutes the polytheistic creed of many gods governing universe with: "He to whom belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth: no son has He begotten, nor has He a partner in His dominion: it is He who created all things, and ordered them in due proportions. [3] Yet have they taken, besides him, gods that can create nothing but are themselves created; that have no control of hurt or good to themselves; nor can they control death nor life nor resurrection." [Ref: 25:2] Worshiping Subordinate Idol-God Partners To Get Close To Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): The Mushrikeen worshiped their subordinate idol-god partners and the reason given by them: “Is it not to Allah that sincere devotion is due?[22] But those who take for protectors besides Him (i.e. min dunihi)[23] (say): "We only worship them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." [Ref: 39:3] And when the Mushrikeen were called to Tawheed and worship of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) alone they argued; if Tawheed and worship of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) alone was the teaching of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) then Jews as well as Christians would have informed them of this message before. Then they asked for the proof of teaching of Tawheed and teaching of worship of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) alone from teachings of Prophets gone past. In response to this Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) stated: “And question thou our apostles whom We sent before thee; Did We appoint any gods other than Most Gracious to be worshiped?” [Ref: 43:45] Implication of this question is; Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) did not appoint any god to be worshiped besides Him. Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) then states: "These our people have taken for worship gods other than Him: why do they not bring forward an authority clear (and convincing) for what they do? Who doth more wrong than such as invent a falsehood against Allah.” [Ref: 18:15] and in another verse: Or have they taken for worship (other) gods besides him? Say, "Bring your convincing proof: this is the Message of those with me and the Message of those before me." But most of them know not the Truth, and so turn away. “ [Ref: 21:24] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) will question the Mushrikeen of Arabia who worshiped the idol-gods: “Then, on the Day of Resurrection, He will disgrace them and will say: "Where are My (so called) partners concerning whom you used to disagree and dispute?" [Ref: 16:27] One reply the Mushrikeen would give: "By Allah, our Lord we were not those who joined others in worship with Allah." [Ref: 6:23] in another verse it is recorded they will say: "We inform You that none of us bears witness to it (i.e. that they are Your partners)!" [Ref: 41:47] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) will know the lies of Mushrikeen but they will eventually admit: "They [the idol-gods] have vanished and deserted us." And they will bear witness against themselves, that they were disbelievers.” [Ref: 7:37] And Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in will say: “And truly you have come unto Us alone as We created you the first time. You have left behind you all that which We had bestowed on you. We see not with you your intercessors whom you claimed to be partners with Allah. Now all relations between you and them have been cut off, and all that you used to claim has vanished from you.” [Ref: 6:94] Also Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) questions: “Then why did those whom they had taken for alihah (i.e. Gods) besides Allah, as a way of approach (to Allah) not help them?” and the question is answered by Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) Himself in the same verse: “Nay, but they vanished completely from them (when there came the torment). And that was their lie, and their inventions which they had been inventing.” [Ref: 46:28] Then Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) will say to the Mushrikeen: “Indeed, you [the disbelievers] and what you worship other than Allah are the fuel of Hell. You will be coming to [enter] it. Had these [false deities] been [actual] gods, they would not have come to it, but all are eternal therein.” [Ref: 21:98/99] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) gather the Jinns, Angles, Isa (alayhis salam), Maryam (alayhis salam), Uzair (alayhis salam) and the Saliheen belonging to Ummah of Nuh (alayhis salam) and question them: “The day He will gather them together as well as those whom they worship besides Allah, He will ask: "Was it ye who let these My servants astray, or did they stray from the Path themselves?" [Ref: 25:17] The polytheistic sect of Jews Christians, and polytheist who worshiped the Jinn as well Angles will spot the whom they had been worshiping in the earthly life and will point them out to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): “And when those who associated partners with Allah see their (Allah's so-called) partners, they will say: "Our Lord! These are our partners whom we used to invoke besides you." [Ref: 16:86] In response to Allah's (subhana wa ta'ala) question they will say: “One day shall We gather them all together. Then shall We say to those who joined gods (with Us): "To your place! ye and those ye joined as 'partners' We shall separate them, and their "Partners" shall say: "It was not us that ye worshiped!” [Ref: 10:28] and the associated partners will also say: "Surely! You [Mushrikeen] indeed are liars!" [Ref: 16:86] Then Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) will place barrier between the Mushrikeen and the Saliheen, Prophet, Angles, and the pious Jinn: “And (remember) the Day He will say: "Call those (so-called) partners of Mine whom you pretended." Then they will cry unto them, but they will not answer them, and We shall put a Maubiq (barrier) between them.” [Ref: 18:52] Thus they will not be able to receive any help nor whom they worshiped will be able to hear them because they will be in paradise enjoying what Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) promised them. Conclusion: To believe the Mushrikeen were declared as Mushrikeen because of believing in intercessors, protectors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is arguing to establish permissible type of Shirk as well as impermissible type of Shirk. Note we the Muslims profess Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) as well as his Ummatis are Awliyah (i.e. protectors) and Shuhaf'a (i.e. intercessors) with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) on the day of judgment Therefore mere affirmation of belief in a creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) to be Wali (i.e. protector) and Shafi (i.e. intercessor) cannot be the reason of Shirk. Otherwise the Muslims have been forced to affirm the Shirk of Mushrikeen in Qur’an for creations of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Or otherwise we have to accept the impossible reality of permissible type of Shirk and impermissible type of Shirk. Permissible type of Shirk being; Prophet (sallalalahu alayhi was'sallam) as well as believers being Awliyah and Shufa'a and impermissible type of Shirk being taking of idols as Awliyah and Shufa'a. In Islam Shirk was not legitimized for believers and made illegal for disbelievers. Whatever belief is legitimized for believers if a Mushrik was to affirm it his belief would be accepted and whatever belief warrants Shirk upon Mushrikeen equally is Shirk if a Muslim professes it. Hence believing in a creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) to be Shafi or Wali cannot be the reason for Shirk of Mushrikeen. Not unless the creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is believed to be absolute-partner with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in these attributes. Or the creation is elevated to the status of a god-partner of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). In that case elevating a creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) to status of god and then believing this god possesses the attributes of Wali and Shafi will make that creation a absolute-partner with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in these attributes warranting major Shirk. It is established that Mushrikeen believed in idols, Jinns, angles to be their gods and believed in Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) to be the supreme Deity who had god-partners. Also believed that Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) possessed authority over these subordinate gods and they did not have any authority over Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). In addition to this, they believed their subordinate-god-partners, were their intercessors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) and their worship of these gods/goddesses will bring them closer to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala).[24] Thus the people of Arabia were declared Mushrikeen because they believed in god-partners with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) and not for the belief that idols are their; intercessors to, protectors with, Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen. Muhammed Ali Razavi Footnotes: - [1] The truth is compromised of both; the Mushrikeen indeed took their idols as intercessors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) which is supported with fallowing verse in which the Mushrikeen argued their idols are their intercessors: "They worship besides Allah, things that hurt them not nor profit them, and they say: "These are our intercessors with Allah." Say: "Do ye indeed inform Allah of something He knows not, in the heavens or on earth?- Glory to Him! and far is He above the partners they ascribe (to Him)!" [Ref: 10:18] In another verse of Qur’an Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) criticizing the idols of Mushrikeen states: "What! Do they take for intercessors others besides Allah. Say: "Even if they have no power whatever and no intelligence?" [Ref: 39:43] but it is also true that Mushrikeen in time of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) as well as in time of Prophet Ibrahim (alayhis salam) took their idols as gods: "Lo! Abraham said to his father Azar: "Takest thou idols for gods? For I see thee and thy people in manifest error." [Ref: 6:74] as well as took those people as gods whom the idols represented and it was for this reason alone Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) declared them Mushrikeen. - [2] Wahhabi's argument centered around Shirk of attributes. He argued that people who wear Taweez believe the cure for their illness is from this Taweez and not from Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Therefore those who use Taweez commit Shirk because the curing is a attribute of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). In response to which I made a brief statement: 'Commonly in linguistic/allegorical terms it is said by Muslims and non-Muslims alike that food satisfies hunger, water quenches thirst, knife cuts, fire burns,medicine heals yet the in Haqiqi (realistic, literal) terms we the Muslims believe that Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) satisfies hunger, quenches thirst, cuts, burns and food, water, knife, fire are the means via which Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) achieves his objectives.” I proceeded: "If the user of Taweez actually believes in Haqiqi terms the cure is from Taweez and not from Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) then indeed he is Mushrik but if he states in Majazi (i.e. allegorical) term that cure is from Taweez but it is part of his belief that via this Taweez Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) cures the illness then he has nothing wrong with his aqeedah of Tawheed." To illustrate my point to him I proceeded from here in question and answer manner. Me: “Does water quench thirst or Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)?” Him: “Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)!” Me: “Does food satisfy hunger or Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)?” Him: “Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)! Me: Does fire burn or Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)?” Him: “Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)!” Me: “Does medicine cure or Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)?” Him: [Thinking he was being smart he answered] "With this one I would say medicine." Me: “So in Haqiqi (real, actual) sense the cure is from medicine and not from Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)?” Him: “No, no! The cure is from Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) but medicine is means to cure.” Me: “Yes, medicine is means to cure in Majazi sense and if someone was to say in Majazi sense that the Taweez cures [as you Naveed said medicine cures in Majazi terms] or believes in Majazi sense that Taweez cures [as you Naveed believed medicine cures in Majazi sense] but in Haqiqi terms only Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) cures then he does not commit Shirk.” To summarize the main point; we can not declare anyone to be Mushrik just on basis of Majazi (i.e. metaphorical), Zahiri (i.e. superficial), Lughvi (i.e. linguistical) affirmation of cure to Taweez or medicine. Or Majazi affirmation of knife cutting, food satisfying hunger, and water quenching thirst until a person unambiguously states, medicine, taweez, food, water, knife cut, cure, satisfy hunger, and quench thirst not Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Note: This discussion is not exact representation of actual full dialogue because I can not recall everything which was said. Other aspects of dialogue which I do remember but can not pin point where they belong in the chronological order of discussion thus I have omitted them. - [3] Note here Mr Naveed was drawing a parallel between the belief of Ahlus Sunnah; Taweez being means of cure, and Mushrikeens belief: idols being intercessors/means to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) for material gain, cure from illness etc. Part One: Yes they did indeed took their idol gods as intercessors and means to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Mr Naveed the Mushrikeen of Makkah were not declared Mushrikeen for holding the belief; their idols are means to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). They were declared Mushrikeen on the basis of their belief; idols are god-partners with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Part Two: We believe Isa (alayhis salam) is Roohullah so do the Christians believe Jesus is Spirit of God. Does this similarity negatively effect aqeedah of a Muslim? Does this similarity in belief determine a Muslim is Mushrik or Christian is a Muslim? Of course not because the fundamental disagreement with Christians is they took Jesus to be god and we believed in Isa (alayhis salam) as a Messenger of God. So our understanding of Isa (alayhis salam) being spirit from Him and spirit of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is meaning of him being a Prophet of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) like other Prophets, a creation. Where as the Christians believe Isa (alayhis salam) is Roohullah in meaning of him being God, three in One. Therefore our point of agreement does not detract from belief of Muslim nor does this agreement of belief remove Christian from fold of polytheism because the reason of their polytheism was their elevating Jesus to level of god and son of god. Part Three: Similarity in one's one aspect of belief does not determine one to be protected from disbelief or from being a disbeliever. Rather belief and disbelief is independent of similarity of belief which Muslims might have with Mushrikeen of Makkah, Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Hindus, and Sikhs. In case of Mushrikeen of Makkah as well as with regards to Christians, our disagreement with them is on fundamental aspect of aqeedah. They take creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) as a god. In short their disbelief is not judged based on what they have in agreement with aqeedah of Tawheed or belief of Muslims or teaching of Qur’an but what they choose to disbelieve of Islam. - [4] It wasn't possible for him to deny or reject or even refute the argument I presented with regards to use of Taweez therefore he changed the battle ground to a different topic (i.e. Tawassul). The implications of his question in the context of the discussion was to insinuate that Mushrikeen as well as Ahlus Sunnah have same belief that in Haqiqi sense; aid, cure, sickness comes from Allah but the idols/Awliyah-Allah/Taweez are the intercessors/means via which Allah grants. Hence in the belief of Ahlus Sunnah and in the belief of Mushrikeen there is no difference [implication of which is Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammat are Mushrikeen]. Part One: Tehqeeqi answer is that people of Makkah were declared Mushrikeen because they took idols as gods with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) not for just believing the idols to be their intercessors. Part Two: A tanqeedi answer; Wahhabis too believe in Haqiqi sense the aid, cure, cutting, burning, quenching of thirst is from Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Therefore you are taking medicine, food, water, fire, knife as means/intercessors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). And your belief also is; Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) grants cure via medicine, satisfies hunger with food, quenches thirst with water, and burns with fire. On the basis of intercession you insinuated; the aqeedah of Sunni's is same as aqeedah of Mushrikeen yet it is evident that you also believe in means/intercessors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Now I inquire Mr Wahhabi: "What is the difference between your belief and the belief of Mushrikeen?" and this is from me: "Why are you not Mushrik (i.e. kaffir who believes in multiple gods) due to similarity of your aqeedah with Mushrikeen?” According to your Wahhabi'ism you are Mushrik because you believe in means/intercessors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Part Three: The only viable option is to affirm what Ahlus Sunnah affirm; the Shirk of people of Makkah was that they took idols as gods and this was the reason for which they were guilty of Shirk. And affirm their Shirk was not that they took intercessors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). You may argue: "... but I do not believe these objects are intercessors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala)." Answer is you don't have to; their position as 'intercessor' is derived due to similarity of aqeedah between Mushrikeen and your aqeedah about the mentioned. And considering the similarities & role they play with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) they were stated to be intercessors. Note medicine, food, water, knife, fire, are a waseela (i.e. a mean) which Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) uses to achieve what His will is in Haqiqi sense. They are wasail (i.e. means) without which Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) will not grant cure, satisfy hunger, cut or burn and; they in reality hold the position of being our intercessors with Allah (suhana wa ta'ala). When these materials are used if Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) grants these objects do what is expected of them; then they do as expected. And when permission is refused by Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) they are unable to and unwilling to act as they are expected. - [5] My knowledge of Wahhabi's was/is that ahlul ilm from amongst the Wahhabi's believe; Mushrikeen took the idols as gods and as subordinate gods to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) but also incorrectly believe the reason for the Shirk of Mushrikeen was taking of prohibited type of intercessors with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). This Wahhabi individual maybe was not familiar with the Qur'anic evidences which support the belief; Mushrikeen took idols as their gods and as subordinate gods hence he was disbelieving in it. Or maybe with typical Wahhabi zeal of bashing Sufis and their 'shirk' got carried away from Islam. Whatever the actual case I believe this was a mistake on his part due to lack of his knowledge of Qur’an One has to be insane to negate the unambiguous text of Qur’an unless he willingly, knowingly, wishes for kuffr. He would have believed if proper evidence from Qur’an and Ahadith had been provided to him. - [6] Any individual who does not believe; the Mushrikeen believed their idols to be gods and as subordinate gods to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) such person is guilty of denial, rejection, disbelief of Qur’an, as such guilty of kuffr. And if he/she is quoted clear evidence from Qur’an as well as hadith yet he/she chooses to disbelieve in Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) and his beloved Messenger (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) such a person has become a kaffir. Technically a apostate whose head must be severed from his body to uphold the law of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). - [7] Part One: Wahhabi understanding of Shirk of attributes is simple; X, Y Z, U, P, L M, are attributes of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) assigning any of these attributes to a creation means we have made a partner with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). To illustrate with a example, Sufi says: "X is attribute of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) and my Shaikh also possess X as a attribute." Wahhabi response would be something like this: "Mushrik, kaffir, grave worshiper, Shaikh worshiper, it is halal for me to kill you and take your property." Due to the incorrect understanding of Shirk as'Sifaat Wahhabis are unable to find the fault or see fault in their understanding because the methodology to judge Shirk as'Sifaat supports what is taught to them. In reality Shirk would only be warranted if the Sufi believes in Haqiqi, Zaati, Qulli, Azli, Dai'mi sense the Shaikh possesses the attribute of X not if he affirms it in Majazi, Atahi, Baaz, Zim'ni sense. In short not on the basis of same word but on the basis of same meaning; if he believes Shaikh's X attribute is Zaati (i.e. personnel) in meaning that he possesses it by his own self and Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) did not grant it to him as no one granted to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) then Sufi is Mushrik. If he believes Shaikh's X attribute is Qulli (i.e. absolute, perfect) in meaning that he possesses it perfectly, unlimitly as Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) possesses it; then the Sufi is Mushrik and so on. Part Two: Wahhabi'ism being offshoot of Khariji sect; just like the Kharijites the Wahhabi's make exceptions and refrain from making takfir if it is proven that there is evidence for a attribute which is affirmed for Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) as well as His creation. According to Ahlus Sunnah the Wahhabi principle of: 'Affirming a attribute Allah's (subhana wa ta'ala) for one of His Creation is Shirk if there is no evidence to support it.' is extremely misguided and misguiding. Existence of evidence and absence of evidence does not determine a belief to be Shirk [Al Akbar/ as'Sifaat] or not. Shirk will remain Shirk with or without evidence. The only point which Wahhabi principle establishes is; if it is permissible type of Shirk [Al Akbar/ as'Sifaat] or prohibited type of Shirk [Al Akbar/ as'Sifaat]. Permissible type of Shirk [Al Akbar/ as'Sifaat] being where there is evidence for Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) and one of His creation possessing the attribute. And prohibited type of Shirk [Al Akbar/ as'Sifaat] where there is evidence for Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) possessing a attribute but there is no evidence that His creation possesses this attribute yet it is affirmed for creation as well. And in Islam there is no room for permissible Shirk Al Akbar and prohibited Shirk Al Akbar. All forms of major Shirk are Kuffr and end in associating a creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) being made partner with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in His God-hood. Hence the principle employed by Wahhabiyya is heretical because it produces teachings which are heretical. - [8] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states: “When news is brought to one of them of (the birth of) a female his face darkens and he is filled with inward grief!” [Ref: 16:58] After stating how sad the Mushrikeen felt when they are given the news of birth of a female child Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) instructs to ask the Mushrikeen: “Now ask them their opinion: Is it that thy Lord has (only) daughters, and they have sons?” [Ref: 37:149] and few verses later: “Did He (then) choose daughters rather than sons?” [Ref: 37:153] And reality is that none of them knew who Lat, Uzza, Manat were, male or female and their knowledge of them was based on conjecture. There is clear proof that Lat was a man and not a female: “Regarding His statement about the Lat and the Uzza: Lat was originally a man who used to mix Sawiq for the pilgrims.” [Ref: Book 60, Hadith 382] - [9] “(The Pagans), leaving Him, call but upon (i.e. yad'una) female goddesses: They call but upon Satan the persistent rebel!" [Ref: 4:117] - [10] Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) recited the verse upon the idols while destroying them indicating the verse is referring to the idols: “Truth has arrived, and falsehood can neither create anything from the beginning nor can It restore to life.” [Ref: 39:49] and by falsehood idols are intended. In another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) questions the Mushrikeen: "Will ye worship, besides Allah, something which hath no power either to harm or benefit you?” [Ref: 5:76] indicating that Mushrikeen know: “(They the idols are) dead, lifeless, and they know not when they (the people) will be raised up." [Ref: Surah 16:21] then Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) counters: “Yet have they taken, besides him, gods that can create nothing but are themselves created; that have no control of hurt or good to themselves; nor can they control death nor life nor resurrection.” [Ref: 25:3] - [11] Prophet Ibrahim (alayhis salam) knew that Mushrikeen of his era worshiped the idols, and worshiped these idols as gods: “And (remember) when Ibrahim (Abraham) said to his father Azar: "Do you take idols as alihah (gods)? Verily, I see you and your people in manifest error.” [Ref: 6:74] So his question was not to gain knowledge from the Mushrikeen but to start a dialogue with them, to create a basis for refutation. - [12] Another verse where Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) is instructed to make similar statement: "Shall I take (other) gods besides Him? If Most Gracious should intend some adversity for me, of no use whatever will be their intercession for me, nor can they deliver me.” [Ref: 36:23] - [13] The implications of the question is that the Mushrikeen Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) sustains the mankind on earth by sending rain from skies and as a result earth produces crops of various kind: “O mankind, worship your Lord, who created you and those before you, that you may become righteous - [He] who made for you the earth a bed [spread out] and the sky a ceiling and sent down from the sky, rain and brought forth thereby fruits as provision for you. So do not attribute to Allah equals while you know [that there is nothing similar to Him].” [Ref: 2:21/22] - [14] The Mushrikeen believed it is Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) who was in control of hearing and seeing. Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) confirms what the Mushrikeen believed about Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): “It is He Who has created for you (the faculties of) hearing, sight, feeling and understanding: little thanks it is ye give!” [Ref: 23:78] in another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states:“Verily We created Man from a drop of mingled sperm, in order to try him: So We gave him (the gifts), of hearing and Sight.” [Ref: 76:2] Once hearing, seeing are affirmed as in control of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) then they are told:“And if Allah willed, He could take away their faculty of hearing and seeing; for Allah hath power over all things.” [Ref: 2:20] “Say, "Have you considered: if Allah should take away your hearing and your sight and set a seal upon your hearts, which god other than Allah could bring them [back] to you?" Look how we diversify the verses; then they [still] turn away.” [Ref: 6:46] Implication of which is that in creed of Mushrikeen there is no other god able to revert the command of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) because He is the supreme God master of gods: “Ibn 'Abbas (Allah be pleased with them) reported that the polytheists also pronounced (Talbiya) as: “Here I am at Thy service, there is no associate with Thee.” The Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: Woe be upon them, as they also said: “But one associate with Thee, you possess mastery over him, but he does not possess mastery (over you).” They used to say this and circumbulate the Ka'ba.” [Ref: Muslim, B7, H2671] - [15] “Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which Allah Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they Trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth;- (Here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise.” [Ref: 2:164] In another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) explains who He brings the living out of the dead, and dead out of the living: “It is Allah Who causeth the seed-grain and the date-stone to split and sprout. He causeth the living to issue from the dead and He is the one to cause the dead to issue from the living. That is Allah. then how are ye deluded away from the truth?” [Ref: 6:95] - [16] “To Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: To Him do all questions go back (for decision).” [Ref: 3:109] “To Him belongs whatever is in the heavens and on earth, and to Him is duty due always: then will ye fear other than Allah.” [Ref: 16:52] “To Him belong what is in the heavens and on earth, and all between them, and all beneath the soil.” [Ref: 20:6] “To Him belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth: for verily Allah,- He is free of all wants, Worthy of all Praise.” [Ref: 22:64] - [17] “Say: "Who is the Lord of the seven heavens, and the Lord of the Arsh Supreme?" [Ref: 23:86] “Allah is He Who created seven Firmaments and of the earth a similar number. Through the midst of them (all) descends His Command: that ye may know that Allah has power over all things, and that Allah comprehends, all things in (His) Knowledge.” [Ref: 65:12] "'See ye not how Allah has created the seven heavens one above another.” [Ref: 71:15] “Yea, to Allah belong the dominion of the heavens and the earth; and to Allah is the final goal (of all).” [Ref: 24:42] “Verily your Lord is Allah, who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the Arsh, regulating and governing all things. No intercessor (can plead with Him) except after His leave (hath been obtained). This is Allah your Lord; Him therefore serve ye: will ye not receive admonition?” [Ref: 10:3] - [18] The Mushrikeen took their idol-gods or whom the idols represented as equal-partners/absolute-partners with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Meaning they took their idol-gods as equals of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in attributes of hearing, seeing and equal in belief Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) was their God as well as their idol-gods. In addition they called upon Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in times of difficulty as an act of worship and they worshiped the the idols because they considered them equal in worship of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) as well. - [19] After Prophet Ibrahim (alayhis salam) destroyed the idol-gods of his polytheistic Ummah: “They [the Mushrikeen] said: "Are you the one who has done this to our gods, O Ibrahim?" [Prophet Ibrahim alayhis salam] Said: "Nay, this one, the biggest of them (idols) did it. Ask them, if they can speak!" [Ref: 21:62/63] Their inability to help others and helping themselves was demonstrated by Prophet Ibrahim (alayhis salam) because the idol-gods failed to protect themselves nor could they aid the investigators. - [20] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states: “Have they feet wherewith they walk? Or have they hands wherewith they hold? Or have they eyes wherewith they see? Or have they ears wherewith they hear? [Ref: 7:195] The deduction is that idol-gods can not hear the call of Mushrikeen nor they can help anyone else or themselves because they do not possess walking feet, holding hands, seeing eyes, and hearing ears. - [21] Mushrikeens in amazement to preaching of Tawheed by Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) had said: "Has he made the gods (all) into one Allah. Truly this is a wonderful thing!" [Ref: 38:5] so in response Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) questions them after establishing the authority of Tawheed with parables: “Are those two [belief systems] equal in comparison?” - [22] The Mushrikeen sincerely worshiped Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) in times of difficulty: “And if a wave comes upon them like mountains, they pray to Allah believing purely in Him; then when He brings them safely to land, some of them remain upon justice; and none will deny Our signs except an extremely unfaithful, ungrateful person.” [Ref: 31:32] but in their ordinary life they were sincere in worship of their idol-gods. Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) informs and instructs Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam): “Verily it is We Who have revealed the Book to thee in Truth: so worship Allah, offering Him sincere devotion.” [Ref: 39:2] Addressing the mankind Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) the Living states: “He is the Living (One): There is no god but He: Call upon Him, giving Him sincere worship. Praise be to Allah, Lord of the Worlds!” [Ref: 40:65] - [23] Introduction: The Wahhabis as well as Wahhabinised heretics apply the words min dunihi (i.e. besides Him, against Him, instead of Him) to be referring to all creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) including Prophets, Awliyah-Allah, Mushrikeen and idol-gods because in their understanding everyone other then Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is min dunihi with exception of meaning 'against Him'. The Wahhabi understanding creates room for distortion verses of Qur’an Which allows the Wahhabis to misconstrue the verses of Qur’an to denounce other Muslims as Mushrikeen. As an example, the Wahhabis would argue; you Sufis/Sunnis take Awliyah (i.e. protector) besides Allah, instead of Allah, against Allah, yet only Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is protector: “And incline not to those who do wrong, or the Fire will seize you; and ye have no protectors other than Allah, nor shall ye be helped.” [Ref: 11:113] Therefore you have given a attribute of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) to one of his creation for this reason you are kaffirs: “Do then those who disbelieved think that they can take My slaves as Auliya' (i.e. protectors) besides Me? Verily, We have prepared Hell as an entertainment for the disbelievers.” [Ref: 18:102] Note: Whenever a Wahhabi uses Qur’an as evidence to make takfir of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah then the Wahhabi does so acting on the methodology of Khawarij (i.e. applying the hokam of verses which were revealed for Mushrikeen and for their idol-gods, upon Tawheed affirming Muslims) as is the case in two quoted verses. Part One: There are two methods of refutation one is to chase each point of Wahhabi [this is the longer route]. The second method is to establish the opposite of Wahhabi foundational belief [this the shorter route]. In this case the shorter route would be employed in this section to clarify the Wahhabi distortion of Qur'anic verses and to refute the allegation against Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah. Wahhabi point one, only Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is protector and there is no protector other then Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Point two, believing in a protector other then Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) means giving a creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) His attribute. And finally point three, you Sufis/Sunnis are Mushrikeen for believing in protector besides Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Technically Wahhabi point one is foundation, and without which the points two, three, are baseless. Hence if it was refuted the entire building of distortion and takfir would collapse faster then the perfect demolition of twin towers. Part Two: Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) instructs: “O you who believe! Take not for Auliya' (i.e. protectors) disbelievers instead of believers. Do you wish to offer Allah a manifest proof against yourselves?” [Ref: 4:144] Implying that believers should only take believers as Awliyah. In another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states He will reveal to the believers who out of them is munafiq and Momin by trying them with Jihad [fi sabilillah]. And by revealing who has taken others as Awliyah (i.e. protectors) other then Allah (subhana wa ta'ala), His Messenger and the Momineen: “Are you under the illusion that you would be left just like this. Whereas Allah has not yet made known [to you, of] those of you who will fight and not take protectors anyone except Allah and His Noble Messenger and the Muslims? And Allah is Well Aware of your deeds.” [Ref: 9:16] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states: “And whosoever takes Allah, His Messenger, and those who have believed, as protectors, then the party of Allah will be the victorious.” [Ref: 5:56] This establishes that there are Awliyah whom Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) has approved and those who believe in these Awliyah are the ones who have firm faith in Qur’an and they are indeed Muslims. Thus those who disbelieve in Allah (subhana wa ta'ala), RasoolAllah (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) as well as the pious believers being Awliyah are the ones who have committed kuffr because they reject Qur'anic verses knowingly/unknowingly Conclusion: It is clear that opposite of Wahhabi foundational belief as been established with firm and explicit proof. Hence point two 'believing in a protector other then Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) means giving a creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) His attribute.' can not be correct because it declares a Qur'anic teaching as Shirk (i.e. Prophet, Momineen being Awliyah). As an additional point, the Wahhabi methodology of determining Shirk of attributes is outward, word for word basis. Meaning Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) being protector means that is His attribute and if this word protector is used for creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) then Shirk is warranted. And Ahlus Sunnah do not just determine Shirk of attributes based on the use of same word but as well as same meaning. So, Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is protector from eternity, now if someone believes a creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is protector from eternity even the ones stated in Qur’an then the person has committed Shirk of attributes. Part A: In contrast to Wahhabis the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah is of belief; min dunihi (i.e. besides Him, against Him, instead of Him) is a technical term in vocabulary of Qur’an referring to gods and idol-gods. Mushrikeen are quoted as saying in the same verse: “We only worship them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." And its established the Mushrikeen worshiped idol-gods: "These our people have taken for worship gods other than Him: why do they not bring forward an authority clear (and convincing) for what they do?” [Ref: 18:15] and this establishes that Mushrikeen took idol-gods as protectors instead of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Part B: Mushrikeen believed their idol-gods were their protectors hence they worshiped them: But those who take for protectors besides Him (i.e. min dunihi) (say): "We only worship them in order that they may bring us nearer to Allah." [Ref: 39:3] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) declares about whom the Mushrikeen took as protectors: “Say: "(It is) Allah." Say: "Do ye then take protectors other than Him, such as have no power either for good or for harm to themselves?" [Ref: 13:16] And protectors min dunihi are gods of Mushrikeen who have not created anything but themselves are created, nor possess ability to harm or benefit: “Yet they have taken besides Him other gods (i.e. alihah) who created nothing but are themselves created, and possess neither harm nor benefit for themselves, and possess no power (of causing) death, nor (of giving) life, nor of raising the dead.” [Ref: 25:3] Part C: Coming to the verse: “Do then those who disbelieved think that they can take My slaves as Auliya' (i.e. protectors) besides Me? Verily, We have prepared Hell as an entertainment for the disbelievers.” [Ref: 18:102] The “My slaves as Awliyah besides Me (i.e. min duni)?” are people who have been elevated to status of gods. Mushrikeen belonging to Ummah of Nuh (alayhis salam) had elevated under the misguidance of Shaytaan the pious slaves belonging to Ummah of Nuh (alayhis salam) as gods. Zoroastrianism believed Satan was a evil god who was brother of God of good. The Mushrikeen of Arabia under the influence Zoroastrians believed that the Jinns they make partners with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) have blood relationship with Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): “And they have invented a blood-relationship between Him and the Jinns: but the Jinns know (quite well) that they have indeed to appear [before Him]!” [Ref: 37:158] With Jinns having blood-line going back to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) then natural conclusion is God's children are gods and to refute this blood-line concept Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) stated: “Say: He Allah is One! Allah the eternal, the perfect. He begets not nor He is begotten. And there is none like Him.” [Ref: 112:1/4] “Yet they [the Mushrikeen of Arabia and Zoroastrians] make the Jinns partners with Allah, though Allah did create the Jinns; and ...” [Ref: 6:100] The Christians elevated Isa (alayhis salam) and Maryam (alayhis salam) to status of gods:“And (remember) when Allah will say (on the Day of Resurrection): "O 'Îsa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary)! Did you say unto men: 'Elevate me and my mother as two gods besides Allah (i.e. min dunillah)?'” [Ref: 5:116] Note the question: “Did you say unto men: 'Elevate me and my mother as two gods besides Allah (i.e. min dunillah)?'” being asked to Isa (alayhis salam) on the day of judgment reveals that his Ummah elevated him and his mother as gods. Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states: “They have certainly disbelieved [in Isa alayhis salam] who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary.” [Ref: 5:17] “Surely, they have disbelieved who say: "Allah is the Messiah son of Maryam." But the Messiah said: "O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Verily, whosoever sets up [gods and sons as] partners with Allah, then Allah has forbidden Paradise to him, and the Fire will be his abode.” [Ref: 5:72] The verse: “My slaves as Awliyah besides Me (i.e. min duni)?” is also about those who have been elevated to status of sons of Allah. Isa (alayhis salam) was taken to be son of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) by Christians and Uzair (alayhis salam) whom the Jews took as son of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): “The Jews call 'Uzair a son of Allah, and the Christians call Christ the son of Allah. That is a saying from their mouth; (in this) they but imitate what the unbelievers of old used to say.” [Ref: 9:30] Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) refuting the claims of a faction of Jews and Christians states: “He is the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have children when He has no wife? He created all things and He is the All-Knower of everything.” [Ref: 6:101] and in another verse Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states: “And they say: "The Most Gracious (i.e. Allah) has begotten a son." Glory to Him! They are but honored slaves.” [Ref: 21:26] And these honored slaves and pious servants who have been elevated to status of gods and sons of gods were servants of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) and they are referred by Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) as my slaves in the verse: “My slaves as Awliyah besides Me (i.e. min duni)?” and they will on the day of judgment seek means to approach Allah (subhana wa ta'ala): “Those whom they call upon desire (for themselves) means of access to their Lord (i.e. Allah), as to which of them should be the nearest; and they hope for His Mercy and fear His Torment. Verily, the Torment of your Lord is (something) to be afraid of!” [Ref: 17:57] Conclusion: It has been established that the verses which the Wahhabi use against Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah's position are misconstrued to fit their own Khariji agenda because these verses refer to gods and idol-gods, sons of Allah of Mushrikeen and Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) said the worst of creatures in creation of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) are people who apply the verses revealed for kuffar upon Muslims: “... and the Mulhidun (heretical) after the establishment of firm proof against them:"And the statement of Allah: 'Allah will not mislead a people after He has guided them, until He makes clear to them what to avoid.' [9:115] And Ibn Umar used to consider them (the Khawarij and the Mulhidun) the worst of Allah's creatures and said: "These people took some verses that had been revealed concerning the disbelievers and interpreted them as describing the believers.” [Ref: Bukhari, Chapter 6: Killing The Khawarij] Note Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah does not believe in Awliyah-Allah as protector gods or protector sons of gods rather we believe them to be servants of Allah (subhana wa ta'ala). Thus the edicts of kuffr, Shirk return upon those who accuse Ahlus Sunnah of committing major Shirk. [24] Allama Sayyid Ahmad Saeed Kazmi al Qadri (rahimullah alayhi ta'ala) wrote: “Mushrikeen believed that Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is enactor/initiator of great affairs [of universe] and with this aqeedah they believed that Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) has granted some pious worshipers status of god-hood. Therefore they are all creations deserved/rightful ma'bood (i.e. ones deserving worship). So much [deserving of worship] that if any one worships Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) only it will not be maqbool (i.e. accepted) until it is not joined with worship of ibadis saliheen: “(It will be said): "This is because, when Allah Alone was invoked (in worship) you disbelieved (denied), but when partners were joined to Him, you believed! So the judgment is only with Allah, the Most High, the Most Great!” [Ref: 40:12] "You invite me to disbelieve in Allah (and in His Oneness), and to join partners in worship with Him of which I have no knowledge; and I invite you to the All-Mighty, the Oft-Forgiving!” [Ref: 40:42] In fact Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) is far above [in the heavens] therefore only His worship is without benefit. These saliheen should be worshiped whom are muqqarib (near/beloved) to Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) so we through their blessing become muqarrib of Allah (suhana wa ta'ala). They believed that these worshiped [idols/gods] are sami and baseer and come to our help and aid. They [the Mushrikeen] had carved stones [into idols] with the names of these [ibadis saliheen] and when they faced their worshiped [idol-gods] their focus and direction (i.e. Qibla) would be these stones (i.e. idols). And those who came after them failed to realized the great difference between the stones (i.e. idols) and human. And they made these stones (i.e. idols) as their worshiped [idol-gods].” [Ref: Maqalaat e Kazmi, Vol One, Page 33: Mushrikeen Ka Aqeedah, Edited, addition of verses.] Shah Waliullah Muhaddith Dehalvi al Qadri (rahimullah alayhi ta'ala) while writing about the creed of Mushrikeen of Arabia writes in detail about the creed of Mushrikeen; that Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) had no partner in managing the great affairs: “Among the principles agreed upon among them [the people of the Ignorant Age i.e. Jaahiliyyah] was the belief that God, may He be exalted, had no partner in the creation of the heavens and the earth and the substances in them, and that He had no partner in managing the great affairs ...” and then he continues to state what those great affairs/major affairs are: ”... and that no one could reject His order nor frustrate His decree once it had become settles and decided, and this is His saying, may He be exalted, “If you asked them who created the heavens and the earth they would answer Allah, [31:25], and His saying, “If God’s chastisement comes upon you, will you call upon any other than God, if you speak truly? No; upon Him you will call, and He will remove that for which you call upon Him if he will, and you will forget whatever partners you associated with him,” [6:41-42], and His saying, “All upon whom you call for help lose their way except Allah.” [That is, these others fail in times of crisis or disaster] But it was due to their deviance in religion that they held that there were personages among the angels and the spirits who could manage [the affairs of] the people of the earth except for the major matters…What gave rise to this were the pronouncements of the divine laws concerning entrusting of the affairs to angels, and the answering of the prayers of those people who are closest [to God], so they supposed that this was an administration [of power] on their part like the administration of kings, by analogy of the unseen to the visible world, and this was false.” [Ref: Hujjatallah Al Baligha, Chapter 74] This demonstrates that Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah of past and present are in agreement that Mushrikeen believed in managing the major affairs of universe Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) did not have a partner but only in minor affairs their gods played a role – intercession.
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