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  1. jazak allah khair.. hazrat. apka jawab sunnio ko mutmain kr skta hai lekin kyuke deobandi ziddi aur munafiqana qom hai vo is jawab se chup nahi rahengi.. lekin unko isi k jaisa revers question kia jaye to ho skta hai ke inki zidd ko qabu me kia jaye.. misal k tor pr deobandio se pucha ja skta hai ke rashid gangohi thanvi ya digar deovandi aqabiro ne agr shia ko kafir na likha hai to kya aaj k deobandi shia ko kafir nahi mante.. aur agr shia ko kafir nahi mante the to kis jagah ftwa e kufr dia hai..thanvi gangohi ne vo to ahle sunnat me mante hai unhe... tb unhe bhi kahna pdenga ke ha bhai aisa ho skta hai ke koi kufr ka ftwa de lekin darj na ho.. ya fir taqfir na kre wajah darj na ho.. ha jo zyada qaribi reason ya krina hai usko base man kr ye qiyas kia ja skta hai ke isi wajah se taqfir nahi ki.. agr aapke pass deobhngio ke ghr se koi aisa example ho to zrur share kre.. jazak Allah Khair.
  2. JAZAK ALLAH .. BS EK HI SAWAL RHA HAI USKA BHI JAWAB DEDE.. Alahazrat ne yeh kaha likha hai ke ismail dehlvi ki touba mashoor ho gayee thi isliye taqfir nahi ki..?
  3. Jazak Allah Khair.. kuch doubt clear hue baki bhi ho jayenge . jinme se ek ye aitraz bhi hai jo deobndi ne kia ki.. ALAHAZRAT NE YE KAHA LIKHA HAI KE .. ISMAIL DEHLVI KI TOUBA MASHOOR HO GAYEE THE ISLIYE TAQFIR NAHI KI. iska jawab bhi de de.. Fir tamhid e iman me hi aage ye bhi likha mila ke.. "" Aur Mai is Frq pr Bina Nahi rakhta ki Sajide Sanam Ki Touba Ba ijma E ummat maqbool hai Magar HUZUR KI SHAN ME GUSTAKHI KARNE WALE KI TOUBA HAZARHA Aimma e deen K nazdiq QABOOL NAHI "" fir aage frmate hai ke "" Adme qaboole touba sirf haqime islam ke yaha hai ke vo is mamle me baade touba Bhi saza e mout de varna Agr TOUBA SIDQE DIL SE HAI TO INDILLAH MAQBOOL HAI ""' Fir aage frmaya .. ""TOUBA SE KUFR MIT JAYENGA MUSALMAN HO JAONGE JAHANAAME ABDI SE NIJAT PAONGE "" mai in ibarto ko smjh nahi pa rha hu ke pahle frmaya ke hazrha aimma k nzdiq GUSTAKH E RASOOL KI TOUBA QABOOL NAHI.. fir kaha ke Haqime islam touba k bavjud saja de aur Touba sidqe dil se hai To INDILLAH MAQBOOL HAI. fir uski touba ki wajah se uske musalman ho jane ki bat bhi qabooli . Jab aimma k nzdiq uski hazarha Touba bhi Qabool hi nahi to VO MUSALMAN kaise..? please is bat ko bhi smjhaye
  4. As salamo alaiqum. Debandi kahte hai ke alahazrat apne usoolo se kafir hai mazallah iske talluqn se yeh aitraz krte hai ke.. ALAHAZRAT NE ISMAIL DEHLVI KO KAFIR NAHI KAHA aur kafir nahi kaha yane musalman mana... fir vo tamhid e iman se yeh bhi pesh kr rhe hai ki Alahazrat ne likha ke.. NABI KI GUSTAKHI SE HUE KAFIR KI KOI BHI TOUBA QABOOL NAHI AUR JO USKE SAZA AUR KUFR ME SHQ KRE VO BHI KAFIR.. (TMHID E IMAN see scan pg ) jab ke ahle sunnat barelvi kahte hai ke alahazrat ne ismail dehlvi ko kafir isliye nahi kaha kyuke uski touba mashoor ho gayee thi . ispr vo ek to dalil mangte hai ke Alahazrat ne kaha pr likha hai ke touba ki mashooriyat ki wajah se ftwa e kufr na lagaya dusra tmhid e iman me aise gustakh ki touba bhi qabool na hone aur uske kufr me shq krne ko kufr likha hai.. AUR ALAHAZRAT ISMAIL DEHLVI KO KAFIR NA MANKR KHUD APNE HU FTWE SE KAFIR HO GAYE.. barahe maherbani iska bhi jawab farham karwa dijiye.. JazakAllah khair.
  5. aitraz abhi bhi vaisa ke vaisa hi hai.. deobandio ka kahna hai ke.. bahishti zewar .. fatawa alamgir durre mukhtar aur fatwa razwia in sb me ek hi jaisi ibarat hai.. to fir deobandio pr aitraz kyu..? sufi kaleem hanfi sahab ne ek audio me frmaya tha ke thanvi ne mutlaqan najasat chatne ki bat kahi hai aur ftwa alamgir me bacho pagalo k bare me hai.. lekin vo bhi wajeh nahi btaye k dono me frq kaise kia gaya hai.. ? ummed hai ke koi ahle ilm is aitraz ka muqammal jawab denga.. aur ye wswsa dur honga..
  6. AS SALAMO ALAIQUM.. HAZRAT MERA SAWAL YE HAI KE.. KISI KAFIR KE GHR KA JANWAR KO KOI MUSALMAN CHORI KRLE AUR FR USE ALLAH KE NAM PR ZIBAH KRKE KHA LE TO AISE JANWAR KE ZIBAH KA GOSHT KA KHANA HALAL RAHENGA YA VO BHI HARAM HONGA.. MERA SAWAL CHORI KRNE PR NAHI CHORI KRNA TO HARAM HAI LEKIN US CHURAYE HUE JANWAR KO JB ALLAH KE NAM PR ZIBAH KIA TO AISA ZIBAH KIA HUA JANWAR HALAL HONGA YA HARAM KHANE KE LiYE.. maine suna hai fatwa qazi khan me iska jawab hai ho sake to iska jawab with scan laga de ... jazak allah Khair..
  7. MAINE KISI SUNNI ULMA SE SUNA HAI KI THANVI NE APNI EK KITAB ME KAHA KE........ BE ADAB BAA IMAAN BA ADAB BE IMAAN ........ MUJHE ISKA REFRENCE CHAHIYE THA AUR AGR SCAN MIL JAYE TO BAHTR JAZAKALLAH
  8. aur ye durre mukhtar me kis msle ke bare me hai ..kya vo bhi mutlaqan nazasat ki bat h ya koi khas mouka ya msla hai jaise pagal bacche ya bekhbri k halat etc
  9. AS SALAMO ALAIQUM YE AITRAZ DEOBANDRO NE KIA HAI KI TUM BARELVI BAHISHTI ZEWAR JILD 2 ME THANVI KI NAJASAT CHATNE WALI IBARAT KA MAZAK BANATE HO BALKE ULMA E AHNAAF NE BHI YEHI FATWADIA HAI KI NAJASAT CHAT KAR SAF KRO TO UNGLI PAK HO JAYENGI .. AUR FATWA E RIZVIA ME BHI YE HI MSLA LIKHA HAI... kya ye fatwa sahi hai aur thanvi ka najasat chatne ka fatwa aur alahazrt ke fatwe me kya farq hai
  10. YE SARE TAWILAT MERE NAHI HAI DEOBNDIO NE FAILAYE HAI... AUR MAI ALHMDULILLAH SUNNI BARELVI HU BHAI JAN.. maine yaha ye sb ilzamat tawilat isliye dale ke inki haqiqat kya hai ap ilm walo se jan sakoo.. MAINE YAHA ISLIYE YE SB TAWILE DALA K YE MOUZU K. MUTABIK HO JAYENGA AUR BAKI K DOUBT BHI CLEAR HO JAYENGE... aur agar meri wajah se aapki post siyah ho rhi hai to aap khushi khushi mere post delete kr skte hai.. lekin inke jawab hamare jaise km ilm walo.k liye kafi mufeed honge.. ...
  11. mazrat ke sath.... AB AGE B CHALIYE BARELWIYO KA FATWA BUZURGO PAR WALIALLAH PAR B FIT HO GAYA DEKHO . . . 600 sal pehle jalilul qadr muhaqqiq shaikh abus sana or allama sayyad sharif jurjani ye tabeer ikhtiyar kar chuke he Shaikh shamshuddin abus sana safhani 749 hijri qazi bezawi r.a. ki kitab tawali ul anwar ki sharah me likhte he . Or agr wo is gaib se baz gaib hona murad li to is me nabi ki koi takhsis nahi rehti qk baz gaibi umoor par to har ek ko ittala hoti he ( mataliul anzar sharah tawali ul anwar $ 407 ) . Barelwi shaikh abus sana r.a. ne to baz gaib sab ke liye bol diya lagao in par fatwa ??? Ek or jhatka jhelo . Allama syyad sharif jurjani 816 hijri bhi ek bahas ke jawab me likhte he . Ham kehte he ke jo kuch tum kehte ho laiq radd he qk hamara or ap ka ittifaq he ke gaib ki tamam bato par mutla hona nabi k liye zaruri nahi or baz gaib par mutla hona is me nabi ki koi takhsis nai yani mutlaq baz chahe kitna hi kam q na ho har ek ko hasil he ( sharah mawaqif moqif jild 3 $ no. 175 ) Barelwiyo lagao fatwa in olama o par Or dekho inka b aqeeda b kul ilm ka nai he Barelwiyo Sir maro diwaro pe or ro lo beth ke ab barelwi batao hazrat thanwi r.a. ne qaid lagayi thi mgr in hazrat ne to jama bol diya jis me sab ate he kutte suwar b ab in par kab laga rahe ho fatwa ??????????? barelwiyo ye pehla gift tha meri taraf se chota sa ibtida e ishq he rota he kya age age dekh hota he kya TO CHALO DOSTO BARELWI OLAMAO KI B GUSTAKHI DEKH LO . . ye barelwi bolte he ke nabi ke ilm ki misal de kar bacho pagalo or janwaro se nabi ke ilm ko mila diya to barelwiyo tumne ek ibarat di wo b galat sabit ho gayi ab niche dekho me kitni ibarat dunga or tumhare pas taweel k siwa koi dalil nai hogi inshaallah ( 1 ) mufti ahmad yar khan naimi likhte he kisi ko ullu ya gadha keh do to wo ranjida ho jata he or hazrat , qibla, qa'ba kehdo to khush ho jata he jabke ullu or gadha b makhlooq he or qibla , qa' ba b ese hi , khaliq ke mukhralif namo me mukhtalif taseer he ( asrarul ahkam s. 52) jese kisi ko ullu gadha keh diya jaye to asar padhta he ese hi khuda ke namo se dam wagairah karne me b asar he . ab sawal ye he ke inhone khuda ke name or ullu gadhe ke namo ko barabar nai kiya ???????? or kya esi ghatiya cheez se khuda ke namo ki tashbeeh de kar unka iman baqi raha????????? . ( 2 )yahi mufti sahab dusri jagah farmate he nabiyo ne apne apko zalim zal or khatawar bataya he agr ham ye lafz unki shan me bole to kafir ho jayenge ESE hi huzur s.a.w. ko farmaya gaya ke apne ko bashar kaho ( norool irfan s. n. 802 ) . dekho yaha mufti ahmad yar khan ne nabi s.a.w. ki bashariyat ko zulm or gumarahi ke barabar kaha he ya is se tashbeeh di he jo fatwa thanwi r.a. par lagaya wo in par q nai laga ?..??????? . . 3. yahi mufti or jagah likhte he jab lathi sanp ki shakal me hogi to khayegi piyegi magar hogi lathi hi ye khana pina us ki is shakal ka hoga ESE hi huzur akram s.a.w. allah ke noor he jab bashari libas me aye to noori bashar the ye khana pina nikah wafat usi bashriyat ke ahkam he ( noorul irfan s. 805 ) . to barelwiyo kya yaha par apke hisab se yaha nabi kareem s.a.w. ki bashriyat ko sanp se tashbeeh nai di gai kya in par q nai laga fatwa ????? . (4) . fazil barelwi se sawal hua ke ek alim ne apne bayan me kaha : e musalmano ap logo ko samjhane ke liye ek misal deta hu is ke bad ap log khud khayal kare ke quwwate imani kaha tak zaeef ho gaya he , dekho kisi hakim ka chaprasi koi paigam le kar ata he to uska kis qadar khof hota he jabke hakim ek banda e misl or shamasan adhe pese ka kagaz jis me mamuli mazmoon hota he or chaprasi 4 5 rs ka mulazim hota he magar halat ye hoti he ke iske khof ke mare log ru posh ho jate he lachari se lena hi padhta he bad me wakil ki talash or pese kharch karna or allah taala ahkamul hakimeen ke waham bhar ne tah wa bala kar sakta he uska hukm nama quran pak he jis ke ek ek harf par 10 , 20, 30 neki ka wada he wo rasool s.a.w. le kar aye fatawa razwiya j. 15 s. 150 dekho barelwiyo molana ke rahe he ke ek misal deta hu or is misal me huzur s.a.w. ki misal chaprasi se di he nauzubillah jabke usne khud kaha he ke ek misal deta hu magar fazil barelwi apna admi tha is liye ke diya ke koi tashbeeh wa tamseel nai he jabke is admi ne khud tamseel mani b he to kya. yaha par huzur saw ko ek ghatiya chaprasi se nai milaya misal de kar ??????????????? . . barelwiyo gift kese lage khushi to bhot ho rai hogi na apko hahahaha chalo ab ek bada gift b le lo or khushi hogi hadees . hazrat aaisha r.a. farmati he ke harisa bin hisham ne rasoolullah s.a. se pucha ya rasullah s.a. ap par wahi kis tor se ati he to aap s.a. ne farmaya kabi kabi mujh par wahi misl ghanta ke awaz ati he ( sahi bukhari ) agr apko yaha misl ka mane alg lage to bol dena OK gor karo aap s.a. ne wahi ke nazil hone ko ghante se tashbeeh di he jabke ghante ki awaz ko hadees me shaitani awaz bataya he hadees . ek hadees me he jis ke jis qafle me ghanta hota he us qafle me rehmat ke farishte nazil nai hote inkishaf haq 128 . to kya mazallah nabi ne wahi ki toheen ki he ??? apke etraz ke mutabiq to ap nabi par b etraz kar sakte ho barelwiyo is misal se tum log nauzubillah wahi ki toheen karne par nabi saw par b fatwa..... asatgfirullah hazrat thanwi par to laga diya ab nauzubillah barelwiyo dekho tumne ek ibarat d mene 5 ibarat d ab lao jawab 5 ibrato ka ya lagao apne alimo pe fatwa . . AB HAZRAT BOR MAT HONA QK AB DEKHO AB BATATA HU APKO HAQEEQAT ye lo barelwiyo ek gift or kaho apne alim ko kafir . molana khlil ahmad barkati ne likha he ke milana ashraf ali ki is tahreer se ye murad nai he ke wo ilme mustafa ko janwaro or darindo ke masawi samjhte he balke wo to ye kehna cahate the ke esa ilm jisme janwar pagal diwane shareek ho is se apki zat arfa'wa a'ala he ( fazil barelwi olama e hijaz ki nazar me 197 se 198) barelwiyo tum kehte ho ke jo hazrat thanwi r.a. ki ibarat ko kufr na mane wo b kafir he ab lagao in par fatwa . . barelwiyo dekho jahalt ahmaq raza ki . buzurgo ke kalam ka unki murad ke khilaf matlab nikal kar murad lena sarasar jahalat he iska koi acha natija baramad nai ho sakta ( aaina e ehle sunnat s.80 ) ab ye dekho tumhare alim b kehte he ke olama e deoband ki takfeer me un hone zadati ki or takfeer karne wale wo akele hi nazar aye mtlb kisi or ne sath na diya . molwi muhammad tofeeq barkati likhte he jitne b ikhtilaf he wo bhot mamuli he albatta olama e deoband ki takfeer ke bare me unhone tashaddud barta he ye alag bat he ke wo is me mukhlis nazar ate he ham unke nateeje se muttafiq nai ke in ibarat ki koi qabile qubool tawal nai agrche wo ibarat qabile etraz he magar unki niyyat par shak karna or takfeer par israr zayadati karna he . .( khayabane raza 217) . . AB DEKHO MISAL KYA HOTI HE . mufti abdul majeed khan saeedi likhte he misal mahaz tafheem ke liye hoti he masawat ke liye nai kanzul iman ke etraz ka operation s. 182 . or dactar altaf husain saeedi or khalil ahmad rana sahab ne ka aqeeda or nazriya to ye he mushabihat se masawat lazim nai ati jabke mushabbah ki bartari ka qol kiya jaye afzaliyat gose a'zam dalail wa shawahid ( 82 ) ala hazrat ki jahalat ka ek or namuna . tashbeeh or isaarah se mushabba wa mushabba ba ki barabri samjhna a'la darje ki himaqat wa jahalt he roedad munazra gustakh kon s. 539 . molwi ashraf siyalwi misal me sirf wajeh tamseel ka lihaz hota he jumla umoor me ishtiraq nai hota hashiya munazra jhang s. 52 . . molana lakhnawi kabi tashbeeh naqis ke sath mujarrad tafheem ke waste hoti he majmua fatawa urdu j.1 s. 20
  12. mai yaha kch tawilat aur pesh krna chahta hu .. inke bhi jawab mil jate to achha hota... 1) waha ibarat m.baaz ilm.ki baat chal rahi h huzur SALLALLAHUALAIHIWASSALAM k ilm ki bat nhi chal rahi h hzt thanvi reh. n huzur k ilm mubarak ko dekh r kar nhi bola unhone kaha agar tum baaz chizo k janne ki wJah se huzur ko ilm gaib mante ho to baaz chiz to har kisi na kisi ko pata hoti h jaise tumko jo pata h vo mujh nhi pata baz chize tumko pata baaz chize mujhko bhi pata h ab baaz ilm k hone ki wajah se ap ya maim alimul gaib to nhi hoyege 2) jawab aya agar ilm zaaati manoge to vo khasa ALLAH KA h or bazz ulum gaibiya manoge to baaz ilm to har kisi ko hota h jaise apki aqal naqis h m m jahilo ko misal se samjhaya karta hu dr. tariq sahib insan h or ek bakri ko dekhle bakriya patti khati h or ap tree ki patiya nhinkhate h ab jo maza bakri ko pattiya khane m ata h uska ilm to bakrio ko hi hoga ab pattiya khane ka ilm dr. tareeq ko to nhi hoga na yahi wajah h k apko samjhi nhi ayi ibarat ibarat m ilm se tashbeeh ya ilm ki baat nhi h waha baaz ulume gaibia ki bat h bazz chize har insan ko lata hoti h bazz ka ilm nhi h 3) tashbeeh or isaarah se mushabba wa mushabba ba ki barabri samjhna a'la darje ki himaqat wa jahalt he roedad munazra gustakh kon s. 539 . molwi ashraf siyalwi misal me sirf wajeh tamseel ka lihaz hota he jumla umoor me ishtiraq nai hota hashiya munazra jhang s. 52 4) bastubanan k nam se shaya hota jisko hifzul imaan may bastul banan karke kehte h usme iska jawab sunlo k hazrta thanvi reh. ki murad na hi huzur the or nahi unka ilm tha unhone baz ulume gaibiya ko samne rakh kar bat ki. 5) buzurgo ke kalam ka unki murad ke khilaf matlab nikal kar murad lena sarasar jahalat he iska koi acha natija baramad nai ho sakta ( aaina e ehle sunnat s.80 ) 6) jis tarah hzrt thanvi ko kafir kehte ho usi tarah peer karam ali shah bhervi azhari ko bhi kafir kaho. ... YE SB TAWILAT ILZAMAT MAINE EK POST SE UTHAYA HAI... inka bhi jwab jald se jald inayat frmaye... jazakallah
  13. Asalamo Alaiqum Mujhe koi hzrt bata skta hai ki Deobandi mazhb me kul kitne firqe hai.. ye ismaili deobandi kya hota hai... aur ismaili deobando k opposite konsa firqa hota hai.. aur hayati mamati... inke molana peshwa kon hai.. kya ye ek dusro pr kufr ke fatwe bhi lagate hai... aur wahabio gair muqallido me kon kon se firqe hai jo ek duje pr ftwe lagate hai.. agr aap dono mzhb k ek dusre firqo pr jo fatwe lagay h uske scan de ske to bahot mehrbani hongi.. allah yaha ke sunni sahiul aqeeda musalmano k ilm me izafa kre . ameen