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Zalzala in english, can be downloaded from the below link. It is a must for all those who want to know more about sunni-deobandi dispute and deobandi hypocrisy. http://www.falaah.co...67-zalzala.html Zalzala In Urdu (Takhreej Shuda with Refrences From Books Published In Pakistan) http://www.islamimehfil.com/index.php?app=core&module=attach&section=attach&attach_id=55708

saaf scan upload ka diye gau hain. Yahan mulahiza farmaein http://www.islamieducation.com/en/refutation/kufr-fatwa-from-shaykh-ashraf-ali-thanvi.html Kya aap Maktaba madiniya , lahore ka nuskha scan karnay ki zahmat kar paeyegein?

Is link per scans upload kar diya gai hain. http://www.islamieducation.com/en/refutation/kufr-fatwa-from-shaykh-ashraf-ali-thanvi.html

http://www.marifah.net/forums/index.php?sh...=2981&st=15 ( post 29 to post 38)

Awais , please read here http://www.islamieducation.com/en/refutati...-fazle-haq.html And if you are a sincere seeker come with truth by reading original book. Do not rely on your deobandi friends who are spreading lies on internet. Also you would like to read this to see how deobandis lie openly http://www.islamieducation.com/en/refutati...ethodology.html Hope you will relaize how your friends fool public by giving wrong information . Abdullah Qadri

I did not check the book. When your reply will come insha Allah we will discuss.

Just to inform you, the wahabis are divided into many sects. Two major groups are MADHKHALIS AND QUTUBIS. Most pakistani wahabis are Madhkhalis . This group supports saudi rulers . This is the same MADhakhli group which has invited JEWISH owned STAR BUCKS coofee chain in Makkah al mukkarramh . Concerning your previous post, Please check Tafwiyatul Iman of Ismail Dehalvi for wrong interpretation of quranic ayats. Imam Bukhrai has narrated a statement of Sayyedina Ibn Umar rd that it is a habit of Khawarij to use those quranic verses which were revelaed for non muslims upon muslims. If you do not consider Ismail Dehalvi to a wahabi , please make it clear. The founder of wahabism , ibn Abdal al wahab najdi al tamimi started this trick of using quranic verses revealed for non muslims upon muslims. He was refuted by his own blood brother sulayman and many other scholars of Ahlus sunnah . They all said the first mistake of Ibn Abdal al wahab najadi al tamimi was wrong interpretation of quranic verses just to cal muslims as Mushriks. The book is online. You can read if you wish. Read Divine text released by Hanbali text society. Pick any history book written by a non wahabi scholar and see the truth. There are plenty . So the scholars like Ibn Hajar , Imam nawawi , Imam suyiti , Ibn Jawji were all wrong when they stuck to one school of fiqh? Wahabis are teaching anthropomorphism to young muslims. Wahabism is a sect which was born just 200 years back , how can it unite the ummah which is already united since1400 yeras ? The Madhkhali sect of wahabism is against jihad and they supported USA in attacking iraq. Killing innocent people is not Jihad. Please do not spoil the name of Islam.

Lets see which are the other tribes and regions prophet has praised 1.Amr ibn Abasa said: ‘Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.) was one day reviewing the horses, in the company of Uyayna ibn Hisn ibn Badr al-Fazari. [...] Uyayna remarked: “The best of men are those who bear their swords on their shoulders, and carry their lances in the woven stocks of their horses, wearing cloaks, and are the people of the Najd.” But Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.) replied: “You lie! Rather, the best of men are the men of the Yemen. Faith is a Yemeni, the Yemen of [the tribes of] Lakhm and Judham and Amila. [...] Hadramawt is better than the tribe of Harith; one tribe is better than another; another is worse [...] My Lord commanded me to curse Quraysh, and I cursed them, but he then commanded me to bless them twice, and I did so [...] Aslam and Ghifar, and their associates of Juhaina, are better than Asad and Tamim and Ghatafan and Hawazin, in the sight of Allah on the Day of Rising. [...] The most numerous tribe in the Garden shall be [the Yemeni tribes of] Madhhij and Ma’kul. [Ahmad ibn Hanbal and al-Tabarani, by sound narrators. Cited in Ali ibn Abu Bakr al-Haythami, Majma‘ al-zawa’id wa manba‘ al-fawa’id [Cairo, 1352], X, 43).] 2. Umm Salama narrated that Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.) gave the following counsel on his deathbed: ‘By Allah, I adjure you by Him, concerning the Egyptians, for you shall be victorious over them, and they will be a support for you and helpers in Allah’s path.’ (Tabarani, classed by al-Haythami as sahih [Majma‘, X, 63].) (For more on the merit of the Egyptians see Sahih Muslim, commentary by Imam al-Nawawi [Cairo, 1347], XVI, 96-7.) Qays ibn Sa‘d narrated that Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.) said: ‘Were faith to be suspended from the Pleiades, men from the sons of Faris [south-central Iran] would reach it.’ (Narrated in the Musnads of both Abu Ya‘la and al-Bazzar, classified as Sahih by al-Haythami. Majma‘, X, 64-5. See further Nawawi’s commentary to Sahih Muslim, XVI, 100.) Allah’s Messenger said: ‘Tranquillity (sakina) is in the people of the Hijaz.’ (al-Bazzar, cited in Haythami, X, 53.) On the authority of Abu’l-Darda (r.a.), the Messenger of Allah (s.w.s.) said: ‘You will find armies. An army in Syria, in Egypt, in Iraq and in the Yemen.’ (Bazzar and Tabarani, classified as sahih: al-Haythami, Majma‘, X, 58.) This constitutes praise for these lands as homes of jihad volunteers. ‘The angels of the All-Compassionate spread their wings over Syria.’ (Tabarani, classed as sahih: Majma‘, X, 60. See also Tirmidhi, commentary of Imam Muhammad ibn Abd al-Rahman al-Mubarakfuri: Tuhfat al-Ahwadhi bi-sharh Jami‘ al-Tirmidhi, X, 454; who confirms it as hasan sahih.) Abu Hurayra narrated that Allah’s Messenger (s) said: ‘The people of Yemen have come to you. They are tenderer of heart, and more delicate of soul. Faith is a Yemeni, and wisdom is a Yemeni.’ (Tirmidhi, Fi fadl al-Yaman, no.4028. Mubarakfuri, X, 435, 437: hadith hasan sahih. On page 436 Imam Mubarakfuri points out that the ancestors of the Ansar were from the Yemen.) ‘The people of the Yemen are the best people on earth’. (Abu Ya‘la and Bazzar, classified as sahih. Haythami, X, 54-5.) Allah’s Messenger (s) sent a man to one of the clans of the Arabs, but they insulted and beat him. He came to Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.) and told him what had occurred. And the Messenger (s) said, ‘Had you gone to the people of Oman, they would not have insulted or beaten you.’ (Muslim, Fada’il al-Sahaba, 57. See Nawawi’s commentary, XVI, 98: ‘this indicates praise for them, and their merit.’) The above hadiths are culled from a substantial corpus of material which records the Messenger (s.w.s.) praising neighbouring regions. Again, it is striking that although Najd was closer than any other, hadiths in praise of it are completely absent. TRIBES Allah’s Messenger (s) said: ‘O Allah, bless [the tribe of] Ahmas and its horses and its men sevenfold.’ (Ibn Hanbal, in Haythami, Majma‘, X, 49. According to al-Haythami its narrators are all trustworthy.) Ghalib b. Abjur said: ‘I mentioned Qays in the presence of Allah’s Messenger (s) and he said, “May Allah show His mercy to Qays.” He was asked, “O Messenger of God! Are you asking for His mercy for Qays?” and he replied, “Yes. He followed the religion of our father Ismail b. Ibrahim, Allah’s Friend. Qays! Salute our Yemen! Yemen! Salute our Qays! Qays are Allah’s cavalry upon the earth.”’ (Tabarani, declared sahih by al-Haythami, X, 49.) Abu Hurayra narrated that Allah’s Messenger (s) said: ‘How excellent a people are Azd, sweet-mouthed, honouring their vows, and pure of heart!’ (Ibn Hanbal via a good (hasan) isnad, according to Haythami, X, 49.) Anas b. Malik said: ‘If we are not from Azd, we are not from the human race.’ (Tirmidhi, Manaqib, 72; confirmed by Mubarakfuri, X, 439 as hasan gharib sahih.) Abdallah ibn Mas‘ud said: ‘I witnessed Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.) praying for this clan of Nakh‘.’ Or he said: ‘He praised them until I wished that I was one of them.’ (Ibn Hanbal, with a sound isnad. Haythami, X, 51.) On the authority of Abdallah ibn Amr ibn al-As, who said: ‘I heard Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.) saying: “This command [the Caliphate] shall be in Quraysh. No-one shall oppose them without being cast down on his face by Allah, for as long as they establish the religion.”’ (Bukhari, Manaqib, 2.) The hadith which appears to praise Tamim is hence not exceptional, and can by no stretch of the imagination be employed to indicate Tamim’s superiority over other tribes. In fact, out of this vast literature on the merits of the tribes, only one significant account praises Tamim. This runs as follows: Abu Hurayra said: ‘I have continued to love Banu Tamim after I heard three things concerning them from Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.). “They will be the sternest of my Umma against the Dajjal; one of them was a captive owned by ‘A’isha, and he said: ‘Free her, for she is a descendent of Ismail;’ and when their zakat came, he said: ‘This is the zakat of a people,’ or ‘of my people’.”’ (Bukhari, Maghazi, 68.) On the authority of Imran ibn Husayn (r.a.): ‘A group of Tamimites came to the Prophet (s.w.s.), and he said: “O tribe of Tamim! Receive good news!” “You promise us good news, so give us something [money]!” they replied. And his face changed. Then some Yemenis came, and he said: “O people of Yemen! Accept good news, even though the tribe of Tamim have not accepted it!” And they said: “We accept.” And the Prophet (s.w.s.) began to speak about the beginning of creation, and about the Throne.’ (Bukhari, Bad’ al-Khalq, 1.) The harsh waywardness of the Tamimi mentality documented in the Qur’an and Hadith casts an interesting light on the personality of Abu Jahl, the arch-pagan leader of Quraysh. Abu Jahl, with his fanatical hatred of the Prophet (s.w.s.), must have been shaped by the Tamimi ethic in his childhood. His mother, Asma’ bint Mukharriba, was of the tribe of Tamim. (al-Jumahi, Tabaqat Fuhul al-Shu‘ara, ed. Mahmud Shakir [Cairo, 1952], p.123.) He also married the daughter of ‘Umayr ibn Ma‘bad al-Tamimi, by whom he had his son, predictably named Tamim. (Mus‘ab ibn Abdallah, Nasab Quraysh [Cairo, 1953], p.312.) An attribute recurrently ascribed to the Tamimites in the hadith literature is that of misplaced zeal. When they finally enter Islam, they are associated with a fanatical form of piety that demands simple and rigid adherence, rather than understanding; and which frequently defies the established authorities of the religion. Imam Muslim records a narration from Abdallah ibn Shaqiq which runs: ‘Ibn Abbas once preached to us after the asr prayer, until the sun set and the stars appeared, and people began to say: “The prayer! The prayer!” A man of the Banu Tamim came up to him and said, constantly and insistently: “The prayer! The prayer!” And Ibn Abbas replied: “Are you teaching me the sunna, you wretch?”’ (Muslim, Salat al-Musafirin, 6.) Banu Tamim and the Khawarij Perhaps the best-known of any hadith about a Tamimite, which again draws our attention to their misplaced zeal, is the hadith of Dhu’l-Khuwaysira: Abu Sa‘id al-Khudri (r.a.) said: ‘We were once in the presence of Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.) while he was dividing the spoils of war. Dhu’l-Khuwaysira, a man of the Tamim tribe, came up to him and said: “Messenger of Allah, be fair!” He replied: “Woe betide you! Who will be fair if I am not? You are lost and disappointed if I am not fair!” And Umar (r.a.) said, “Messenger of Allah! Give me permission to deal with him, so that I can cut off his head!” But he said: “Let him be. And he has companions. One of you would despise his prayer in their company, and his fast in their company. They recite the Qur’an but it goes no further than their collarbones. They pass through religion as an arrow passes through its target.”’ Abu Sa‘id continued: ‘I swear that I was present when Ali ibn Abi Talib fought against them. He ordered that that man be sought out, and he was brought to us.’ (Bukhari, Manaqib, 25. For the ‘passing through’ see Abu’l-Abbas al-Mubarrad, al-Kamil, chapter on ‘Akhbar al-Khawarij’ published separately by Dar al-Fikr al-Hadith [beirut, n.d.], pp.23-4: ‘usually when this happens none of the target’s blood remains upon it’.) This hadith is taken by the exegetes as a prophecy, and a warning, about the nature of the Kharijites. There is a certain type of believing zealot who goes into religion so hard that he comes out the other side, with little or nothing of it remaining with him. One expert who confirms this is the Hanbali scholar Ibn al-Jawzi, well-known for his hagiographies of Ma‘ruf al-Karkhi and Rabi‘a al-Adawiya. In his book Talbis Iblis. (Beirut, 1403, p.88) under the chapter heading ‘A Mention of the Devil’s Delusion upon the Kharijites’ he narrates the hadith, and then writes: ‘This man was called Dhu’l-Khuwaysira al-Tamimi. [...] He was the first Kharijite in Islam. His fault was to be satisfied with his own view; had he paused he would have realised that there is no view superior to that of Allah’s Messenger (s.w.s.).’ Wahabis have this habit of showing banu tamim to be THE ONLY tribe which has been praised. What they faile to realize or deliberately hide is the fact , other tribes have also been praised The only tribe which has been cursed most in Quran and hadith is Banu tamim. This wahabi formula is old and has been exposed long back.

Shaykh Nuh keller does not read urdu and was given wrong information by deobandis.For example shaykh nuh said Imam Ahmed Raza Khan (rh) was the first to use this term"imkan e kidhb". This is wrong , as we know it was used by the deobandis. This error along with other mistakes were highlighted long back on different forums. Also the stand which shaykh Nuh keller has taken with regard to imkan e kidhb is no where found in Ashari or Maturidi text. This was also pointed on other forums. Shaykh Nuh also wrote that the deobandi "akabir" did not deliberately wrote those statements which shows disresoect to prophet . This was another mistake from shaykh Nuh which was refuted by quoting a fatwa from deobandi scholar Shaykh Rashid Ahmed gangohi. In short everyhting has been refuted . Insha Allah soon , everything will be compiled and presented under one topic. It will be posted on www.islamieducation.com/en ( refutation section) Shaykh Nuh should have made contacts with Ahlus sunnah scholars of subcontinent who know the isseu in detail. Shaykh Nuh relied totally on deobandis , whom we know are famous for tampering books and providing wrong information about their sect to people out side subcontinent. Insha Allah , very soon this issue will be addressed on www.islamieducation.com Abdullah Chisti

Its nice to see that wahabis are slowly relaising this fact. That is why now they are divided into many camps like Madhkhalis ( saudi supporting and against Jihad) and qutubis who are pro jihad and against saudis! Tribe of banu tamim in quran http://ahlussunnahwaljamah.blogspot.com/20...m-in-quran.html More hadiths can be provided about the tribe of banu tamim. Zul Khawasair was also from the tribe of banu tamim. Other hadith about these"bare foot naked , dumb desert people" has been given on other thread.

Jazak Allah for your inputs. Brother Jeddawi it was nice to see those artciles on this forum. The fitnah of wahabism was fast spreading in the west. The Scholars of Ahlus sunnah took great measures and now the wahabi propogation has gone down. You can google" rise and the fall of salafi dawah in west". It gives some insight as to how wahabis tried to fool our revert brothers and sisters. Wahabism and love for money go hand in hand. Among the signs of the Hour mentioned by the Noble Messenger of Allah in the well-known hadith of Gibril in Sahih al-Bukhari is "when the destitute camelherds compete in building tall structures." Another version in al-Bukhari has: "when the barefoot and the naked are the heads of the people." In Muslim: "you shall see the barefoot, naked, indigent shepherds compete in building tall structures." Another version in Muslim says: "when the naked and barefoot are the top leaders of the people." A third version in Muslim has: "when you see that the barefoot and naked, the deaf and dumb are the kings of the earth." Ibn Hajar said in commenting this passage of the hadith in Fath al-Bari: It was said that "barefoot and naked," "deaf and dumb" are their attributes by way of hyperbole, showing how coarse they are. That is, they did not use their hearing or sight in anything concerning their Religion even though they are of perfectly sound senses. The Prophet's words : "The heads of the people" means the kings of the earth. Abu Farwa's narration names the kings explicitly. What is meant by them is the people of the desert country, as was made explicit in Sulayman al-Taymi's and other narrations: "Who are the barefoot and naked?" He answered: "The Bedouin Arabs." Al-Tabarani relates through Abu Hamza, on the authority of Ibn `Abbas from the Prophet , that "one of the signs of the change of the Religion is the affectation of eloquence by the rabble and their betaking to palaces in big cities." Al-Qurtubi said: "What is meant here is the prediction of a reversal in society whereby the people of the desert country will take over the conduct of affairs and rule every region by force. They will become extremely rich and their primary concern will be to erect tall buildings and take pride in them. We have witnessed this in our time as well as the import of the hadith: 'The Hour will not rise until the happiest man will be the depraved son of a depraved father (lukka` ibn lukka`),' and 'if the leadership is entrusted to those unfit for it, expect the Hour,' both in the authentic collections." [ Shaykh GF haddad] _________________________ Wahabis are competing in building the worlds tallest building. http://www.shoppingblog.com/cgi-bin/sblog.pl?sblog=403081 All this reminds us that the end time is near. Wahabism has damged the ummah from inside , like the jews and christinas have attacked us from outside. Promoting anthropomorphism, making each individual into a Mujtahid and abusing the salaf as saliheen is what wahabism has taught .

Taleen e Noor Saheb ,kya aap urdu lughat ( dictionary) say MUJRA lafz ko matlab dekh kar usaka ma'ani yahan batla saktey hain? Agar nahee, tab insha Allah main aapki khidmat mein Scan pesh karoonga. Please note: 1) Shaykh Dabbagh ke waqaye ka jawab tafseelan diya ja chuka hai. 2) Mujra lafz wali ibarat zeray guftagu hai. 3) Ghaus wali ibarat bhee zeray guftagu hai. Sirf aap se itani guzarish hai ki MUJRA lafz ka mani URDU LUGHA se dekh kar batla dein.

Hizbut tahreer is a political organisation and it has nothing to do with Ahlus sunnah. They do not believe in lone narrator reports ( khabar ahaad) . They do not believe in punishment in grave. The group has spilt up into many subgroups with each sub group claiming to represnt the ummah!. They usually target college studnets. The organisation is banned in UK. Use google search to know more about them.

Mainey Quran sherif aur hadith ka zikar , Rasul Allah ke "ummi" honay per sirf isliye kiya tha taki Haqqeqat sahab ka jawab dekh sakoon! Lekin as usual , haqeeqat sahab ko koee jawab nahee sujha. Quran , sura Al araf , ayat 22-23 , adam alayhis salam ke taubay ka zikar kartee hai. Adam alayhissalam ne kafee muddatt tak bahut see duaein mangee. Yahan per un sab ka zikar hai. Jab unhonay ne nabee paak ka waseela istemal kiya tab unakee dua qubool kee gayee. Usool e tafsir----> Jab quran mein kisee waqiye ya hukm ka zikar sirf isharay sey hota hai , tab sahih hadith ki roshnee mein us waqiye ya hukm ko pura samjhaya jata hai. Jaisey Namaz ka hukm quran mein, aur tafseel hadith mein. Fiqh mein qanoon ke liye jo darza quran ka hai wahee darza sahih mutawatir hadith ka. Jab sahih hadith quran ke kisee ayat se zahiri taur per takrati hai tab" Tabteeq" ka istemal hota hai. Jaisey Quran wazu ke mutalliq paaon dhoney ka nahee paaon "pocheny" ( masah) ka hukm deta hai. Lekin Hadith mein paaon dhonay ka hukm hai. Ab yahan per tabteeq ki jati hai. Adam alayhusalam ke masaley per suta al Araf ( 7:23) na kisee hadith ko radd nahee kartee isliye yahan tabteeq ka istemaal ki zaroorat hee nahee! Yeh ayat ek waqiye ke taraf isharah kar rahee hai , jisaka tafseeli zikar hadith mein hai. CHAND ULEMA KE NAAM JINHONAY IS WAQIYE KO ( nabe pak se wasiley ka zikar) SAHEE KAHA aur in sab ka ilm hum sab sey zyada tha. Wah apaney marzi ki tafsir nahee pesh kartey they! 1. Imam Al Hakim ( rh) 2. Imam Al bulqini (rh) 3.Imam Al subki (rh) 4. Imam qadi Iyad (rh) 5.Imam Ibn al Jawzi al Hanbali (rh) 6. Imam Suyuti (rh) 7. Imam Ibn Kathir (rh) 8. Imam Al Haythami (rh). 9. Shaykh Ibn Taymiah 20 aur ulema ke naam pesh kiya ja saktey hain, lekin koee fayada nahee. Haqeeqat sahab , agar aap "mufassir" hain to khud tafseer bataein aur agar arabee nahee aatee , tafseer ke qanoon nahee aatey, usool e fiqh nahee aata , yani , aap bhee hamari tarah hain, us haalat mein mufasireen ki tafseer qubool karein. Aapney jo ayat pesh kee hai... wah koee proof hai hee nahee us hadith ko galat/ daeef/ munkar/ mawdu saabit karney ke liye. Waqt lijiye aur koee achha sa jawab dijiye is hadith ke mutallik. TAHQEEQ kijiye ki ulema ney kya kaha hai is hadith ke mutallik aur jab tahqeeq puri ho jaye tab tawassul ke baki muddon per baat ho saktee hai. Aap ke ilm ke ,liye chand ulema jinhonay "tawassul" ko apanee dua mein istemal kiya. 1) Ibrahim Al-Harbi (Tarikh Baghdad 1:122) 2) Abul-Rabi' bin Salim (Siyar A'lam Al-Nubala 21:251) 3) Abul-Shaikh Al-Asbahani (Siyar A'lam Al-Nubala 16:400) 4) Abu 'Ali al-Khallal (Tarikh Baghdad 1:120) 5) Abu Zar'ah Al-Razi (Al-Muntadhim 9:74) 6) Ibn Abil-Dunya (Qurra al-Dayf 5:225) 7) Ibn Al-Jazari (Iddatul-Hisn Al-Husain) 8) Ibn Al-Jawzi (Zad Al-Maseer 4:253) 9) Ibn 'Asakir (Tarikh Dimishq 6:43) and in his Arba'iniyat 10) Ibn Kathir (Bidayah 13:192) 11) Al-Bayhaqi (Al-Muntadhim 11:211) 12) Al-Darimi (Sunan Al-Darimi: Chapter on what Allah blessed His Prophet with) 13) Al-Sakhawi (Fath Al-Mughith 2:261) 14) Al-Suyuti (Al-Itqan 2:502) 15) Al-Tabarani (Siyar A'lam Al-Nubala 16:400) 16) Al-'Ijluni (Kashf Al-Khafa 2:55) 17) Al-Mundhiri, in his Risalah 18) Al-Qurtubi (Tafsir Al-Qurtubi 8:240) 19) Al-Haythami (Majma' Al-Zawaid 9:420) 20) Al-Ghazali (Ihya 'Ulum Al-Din 1:260). Shaykh al-Islam Ibn Hajar departed this life in 852. His funeral was attended by ‘fifty thousand people’, including the sultan and the caliph; ‘even the Christians grieved.’ He was remembered as a gentle man, short, slender, and white-bearded, a lover of chess and calligraphy, much inclined to charity; ‘good to those who wronged him, and forgiving to those he was able to punish.’ A lifetime’s proximity to the hadith had imbued him with a deep love of the Messenger (may Allah bless him and grant him peace), as is shown nowhere more clearly than in the poetry assembled in his Diwan, an original manuscript of which has been preserved at the Egyptian National Library. A few lines will suffice to show this well: By the gate of your generosity stands a sinner, who is mad with love, O best of mankind in radiance of face and countenance! Through you he seeks a means [tawassala], hoping for Allah’s forgiveness of slips; from fear of Him, his eyelid is wet with pouring tears. Although his genealogy attributes him to a stone [hajar], how often tears have flowed, sweet, pure and fresh! Praise of you does not do you justice, but perhaps, In eternity, its verses will be transformed into mansions. My praise of you shall continue for as long as I live, For I see nothing that could ever deflect me from your praise. Ab baat , yahan per aaye hai ki , haqeeqat sahab ko in ulema ki pairee nahee karnee! Yeh sab ulema galat they! Haqeeqat sahab, agar aap khud qabiliyat rakhtey hain to apanee daleel laiye aur nahee to kisee Aalim ke daleel. Jab uloom al tafseer nahee maloom to quran sheif ki aayaton ka istemaal apanee baat manwaney ke liye na kijiye.

Haqeeaqt sahab. Adam aalyhis salam ki mainey jo hadith dee thee ,usaka MATAN ( TEXT) aur ISNAD ( chain) DONON aapki pesh kardey hadith se alag hai. Ummed karta hoon yeh baat wazeh ho gayee hogee. Aap ney jo hadith pesh ki hai usmein Zayd ibn Asalam hain , zo daeef hain, jisakee wajah sey wah isanad daeef hai. Mainey jo hadith pesh kee hai , usmein zayd ibn asalam nahee hain. Dusaree baaat, apaney man sey tafseer mat pesh kijiye. Ek hadith ka mafhoom hai " agar apany man sey tafseer batao to jahannam ki aag mein jana padega" ( Ibn kathir). ( man kala fil quran bi rayeehe fatwa zauuana bi azzani minnnaaar) Adam alayhi salam ney nabee paak ka naam le kar dua maangee , jisaka imam suyuti (rh) , Imam Ibn kathir (rh) aur baaki mufassirren ney zikar kiya hai. Aap koee naee baat laein to daleel zaroor dein. Ulum hadith ke kis qawaid ke mutabik sey aapney hadith ko zaeef keh diya? Kya aap yeh bataney ki takeelf kareigein? Quran kehta hai nabee paak ' ummee" they aur sahih bukhari mein hadith hai ki rasul paak ney apana naam khud apaney hathon sey likha .. tab aap to sahih bukhari ki hadith ko bhee daeef kahengein! Bhai sahab, SOLID POINTS aur daleel le kar aaiye. In topic mein discussion kar key intenet per sarey forum full ho chukey hain!