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kutty wo b gandi gali  k.

 

post ka jawab dy.  urdu main, faisal send na kar.  tairy he ghar k molvi ny lekha tha k bidate mushrak molvi sialvi 7 hour k munazara main aik baat ka b jawab na dy saka.

aur wo taira bara alam hy, ko school teach nahe tha.

gherat haram ki olad. himmat hy tu saeedi jis baat ka jawab na dysak tu post kar dy.

 

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Jab pans jata heh ... Toh phir Urdu mein ... Urdu mein shoroon ho jaati heh. :}

Wesay tum ussee tera ghali detay ho jistera Qasim Nanotavi apni maanh ko deta thah. Aur Ashraf Ali Thanvi apni jawan betiyoon ko ghaali deta thah ... Yehni gandi gandi ghaleez kism ki. Hussain Ahmad Madni nay Kitaab likhi thi in ghaaliyun par ... Ghaliban naam thah ... Uqabir Ulamah Haq Deoband Ki Pakeeza Ghaliyan ... Quote pesh e khidmat heh:

"O kanjri keun neeh sunti ... Tehnoon kuttay khaan ... Tikki loon laggeh. Malang-gan naal tikki behjoon." [Ref: Uqabir Ulamah Haq Deoband Ki Pakeeza Ghaliyan, by Allamah Hussain Ahmad Madani, P133, Kutub-Khana Bey-Sharmi]

Nazreenh dekh yeh phir ussee tera ghaali deh ga. 

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On 10/19/2020 at 9:00 PM, hanfigroup said:

KCI   KUTTON   KI   B    GATIYA   NASAL  SY TALUQ RAKHNY   WALY   INSANJ.

IS   POST KA JAWAB   SAEEDI  NA DE SAKA  TU LEKH DY.       APNI   TAR TAR BAND KAR AUR JAWAB LEKH URDU MAIN.

Mujjay pehlay hi pata thah kay tum ghaali doh gay. Bachpan mein sexual abuse hota raha heh jis kay nateejay mein aisi ghaleez gaali detay ho. Wesay tumara toh bachpan mein sexual abuse huwa Qasim Nanotavi toh Ashraf Ali thanvi ka sexual abuse boorapay mein karta raha. Aur woh bi bister leta kay jis tera ashaq sadiq sexual abuse karta heh. Aur  bey hadd beysharmi ki baat yeh kay woh bi larkoon kay samnay. Refference dekha doon. Tumaray maulviyun ka aik dosray ko sexually abuse karnay ka? Tumari ghalazat inneeh bey haya.hoon aur aur homosexual maulviyoon ka faiz heh. Mujjay pata heh tum aur bi gali doh gay magr mein janta hoon yeh tumari aik fitrat ban chuki heh aur yeh sab tumaray saath sexual ziyadti joh larkay kartay rahay hen us waja say heh. Tum mujjay muhalla bata doh kahan rehtay ho mein YouTube par gawah la kar pesh kar doon ga joh halfan gawahi denh gay kay larkay is kay saath jinsi talluq rakhtay thay. 

Tum ziyada gaali deh kar is baat parda nahin dal saktay. Mein nafsiyati doctor hoon tumari joh profil banahi heh agar oesh karoon toh pata chalay.  Warna mein tumaray Maulviyun ki aur ghaaleez sexusk depravity dekhahoon ga ... 

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On 10/20/2020 at 8:07 PM, hanfigroup said:

besharam   insan,
kci    abujal    ki    old.
post   ka   jawab    dy,    pahly  b tum  aisy   kar k jaan. bachaty ho.
taira     bara munazara     saeedi    bagura     aik   saal    sy  farar   hy.   us   besharm     ko    b   kaho   j awab dy

FARAAR kon huwa heh. Yeh toh idhar bi dekha ja sakta heh aur kon la jawab heh.

Saeedi Sahib kay jawabat kafi hen. Aur jab zeroorat pari aur samji us ka jawab bi likh doon ga. Magr Saeedi Sahib aur aap ki guftgooh toh baad mein huwi
HanfiGroup Sahib aap nay toh idhar Munazra Jhang ki rudad ki joh asal date maktaba Fareedia ki thi us mein tarmeem kar deeh - asal yeh thee:


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Magr aap ki doka baazi kay nateejay mein yeh bani:

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Is kay jawab say HanfiGroup Saab lachaar aur bekaar hen. Phir aap ki zaat e zaleela aur kameena nay yeh likha:

1)  TIAIRA   MUNAZARA   SAEEDI AIK SAAL sy mairi post ka jawab dyny sy ajaz hy.      darpok pata nahe kc bil main chuppa hy.     
2)   dono  faisala karny walon ny tum ko b ghustakh lekha k barelvion k dalil nisbatan wazni hyn.
3) musanfeen 2no koe alam nahe thay. magar tairy ghar ka alam nasir u deen. ny lekha k barelvi munazara jang main kci baat ka jawAB NA dyska.
4)  kabi munazara jang  life main para ba hy,   dekha kaisy kaisy taira molvi apny he bando ko ghair moutbar maan raha hy.
agar itni shram aur gharat hy tu saeedi ki jaga tu jawab dydo. ( urdu main)   MAY 12TH ki post main saeedi jawab dyny sy alaza ageya tha

Phir kia thah  kay mein nay zillat bey-hayahi aur bey-ghayrati mein beego kar aap ko chaar litr istera maray jistera kuttay ko hunter mara jahay toh woh tauvn tauvn karta bagta heh. Farq sirf yeh heh kay aap bagay nahin magr phir dheet ki tara ... shor dala huwa heh ... aur mar kar dekh... aur mar kar dekh:

1. Pagal kuttoon kay moonh bi kabi kohi banda laga heh. Kutta ki zaat bhonkna heh joh aqal aur hoshiyar  banda heh kuttay ko bhonkta dekh kar sath bhonkta nahin balkay , dir dir karta heh aur apna rasta napta heh, Saeedi Sahib nay dir dir kar di magr kutta phir bi peechay paray toh Saeedi Sahib kia keren. Kutta apni zaat aur sifaat ki waja say majboor heh. Aur Saeedi Sahib qanoon Shariat say, pagal milay salam doh aur rasta loh.
2. Jhangir ul-Lught mein  nisbat ka mana yeh heh: Do ijsaam kay darmiyan taqabuli  talluq, muqabala. Is waja say Nisbatan = muqabalatan =  comparatively, in relation to.   Yehni dalahil comparatively Ahle Sunnat kay wazni hen.  Yehni agar donoon jammatoon kay dalahil mein muqabila keeya jahay toh phir Sunniyoon kay dalahil  Deobandi dalaihil kay muqabileh mein wazni hen. Yeh joh tum nay jhoot bola ya tumaray Maulvi nay bola kay nisbatan ka mani heh mamooli farq yeh kahan say nikala heh? Dictionary  mein say dekha doh kay nisbatan us waqt istimal hota heh jab do cheezoon mein mamooli farq ho. Jhootun say daal nahin galnay wali. Wesay toh aap kay uqabir Hussain Ahmad Madani lanahumullah  Allah kay muqabileh mein aisay chamar say zaleel thay aur dajjal say ziyada kameenay thay kitaben garh garh kay Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat alayhi rahma aur un kay walid say bi mansoob kar deenh. Aur aap toh bi Hussain Ahmad Madani kay ki asli roohani nazriati ulaad hen is waja say shahid kohi dictionary publish kar deeh ho jis mein yeh jhoot aur dajjaliat ka izafa kar deeya ho. Magr meray pass bi Allah kay karam say 5 Urdu dictionaries paree hen aik do 1980 say bi pehlay ki aur kuch us kay baad ki  dekhtay hen dajjaliat jheet-ti heh ya phir sach ka bol bala hota heh. Dawah aap ka aur daleel bi aap denh.
3. Munasifeen 3 thay, 2 nahin thay. Lakeer kay faqeer khud bi kuch parh logh auroon ki batoon par kab taq ameen summa ameen kehtay raho gay. Agar munsifeen alam hotay toh phir kissi nah kissi firqeh kay hoteh aur woh janib dar hotay ghayr janab-dar nahin. Is leyeh school kay teacheroon ko hakumuati idaroon nay pakr bathaya thah takay un ko masloon ikhtilaf ka ilm nahin hoga toh phir ghayr janabdari say faisla kar denh gay. Agar Maulvi hotay aur Deobandi hotay toh kia faisla kartay? Agar Sunni hotay toh kia faisla kartay? Is Janab-dari say bachnay ki khatir ghayr alamoon ko pakr batthaya thah. Aur Munsifeen nay munazra kay shoroon mein baray wazia ilfaaz mein halfan kaha thah kay ham nay yeh ikhtilaf nahin pehlay sunay. Magar chawal ko is par bi ihtiraz heh.Aur haqiqat mein Haq Nawaz Jhangvi ki jahalat par ihtiraaz heh joh HanfiGroup ko pata lag gahi ... aalim nahin faisla nahin kar pahen gay ... yeh Haq Nawaz Jhangvi ko keun pata nahin thi. Aap jaisa chawal banda is baat ko samaj gaya, agar sahih samjay hen toh, aur Haq Nawaz Jhangvi ko yeh aqal nah aahi, toh nateejan kehnay ka haq rakhta hoon kay aap ka Haq Nawaz Jhangvi  aap say ziyada chawal aur bey-aqal thah jis ko yeh samaj nahin thi kay munsifeen Aalim nahin hen faisla kesay keren gay. Wsay haq ki baat yeh heh kay towheen aur ghaali ko samajnay kay wasteh Aalim hona zeroori nahin. Towheen, ghali, besati, ko samajnay kay wasteh Aalim hona zeroori nahin. Ismail Dehalvi Allah pakeezgi  muqabileh mein kuttay say bi ziyada paleet khanzeer say ziyada haram aur dajjal say ziyada ghaleez heh ... Kia Tawheed ka parchaar heh. Wah! Wah! Subhanallah keh denh. Abh Maulvi chayeh samajnay kay wasteh. Agar tum nay samaj leeh aur rawayatti Deobandi ghaali galoch par utar aya toh mein samjoon ga kay tum nay TOWHEEN DEHALVI KA FAISLA kar deeya ... aur woh bi jab tum AALIM nahin ... aye ray meray Allah yeh kesay mumkin huwa.  Dosri baat, Towheen ghali gustakhi bey-adabi ko samajnay kay wasteh banday ko Aalim nahin izzat-daar hona chahyeh. Gali towheen gustakhi bey-adabi banda mehsoos kar leta heh magr shart yeh heh kay banday ko izzat-dar hona chahyeh. Jab apni aur apnoon ki izzat aur ghayroon ki izzat o adab ka khayal ho. Jab yeh khayal ho toh phir banda mehsoos kar leta heh. Misaal kay tor par, aik buzurg banda, room mein ata heh aur nojawan jaga kursi khali nahin kartay aur buzurg ko farsh par bethna parta heh. Joh izzat-dar banda heh woh mehsoos kar leh gay yeh ghalat huwa. buzurg wasteh kursi khaali kar deni chahyeh thee ... magr bey-sharam o bey-haya aur zaleel kameenoon ko kabi samj nahin lagay gi. Buzurg ko kissi nay ghaali nahin deeeh sirf kursi khaali nahin kee toh towheen besati ho gayi. Aur choti si harkat par jab besati banda mehsoos kar leta heh toh sarri ghaali galoch ko samajnay wasteh Aalim hona kis waja say lazim huwa? Kia Sirf Maulviyoon ko hi ghaali galoch par oobaar hasil heh. Maulvi ki zeroorat tab ho jab ghali galoch ka tayyun karna Maulvi ki speciality ho. Gaali galoch toh sab ko ata heh aur izzat aur besati bi har kohi mehsoos kar leta heh. Maulvi hona lazam nahin is wasteh. Shahid gali galoch aap kay Maulviyoon ki speciality is waja say Aalim rakhna chahtay hoon. Mein kahoon HanfiGroup bari haram ki ulaad heh khalis haram ki ulaad aur taweel karoon kay haram say mana holy/sanctified thah bastard wala nahin thah ... Maulvi tayyun karay ga is ka kay gaali heh ya nahin? Ahle zubaan samaj saktay hen kay ihtimal toh heh manay ka magr jumla ki banawat sabat karti heh kay gaali deeh heh. Izat daar baneh, aur samjen kay aap ki izzat kis mein heh aur kis mein towheen gustakhi besati aur phir ussee ko auroon wateh bi mehsoos keren. Samaj jahen gay kay Deobandi uqabir ki ibaraat keun gustakhana aur Kufria hen. Raha Pir Naseer al-Deen ... ham nay Munazra suna, para, samja aur samjaya heh is leyeh ham ko pata heh haqiqat kia heh ... Pir Naseer al-Din Sahib nay nah kabi suna aur nah para. Munazra Jhang ko mein nay clean saaf shafaf kar kay upload kar deeya heh readers khud sun kar faisla kar lenh kay Haq Nawaz Jhangvi ki bolti Sunniyoon kay khilaaf keun band huwi thee. Wesay Haq Nawaz Jhangvi thah mard ka bacha ... aisa baga medaan say phir kabi wapis nahin aya ... zillat o shikast ka itna sakht sadma huwa bichara Kafir Kafir Shia Kafir karta mar gaya magr Sunniyon kay khilaaf phir zubaan nah kholi. Is ko kehtay hen Manzoor Ahmad Naumani wali zillat. Nahin Manzoor Naumani ki toh woh zillat huwi us ka daswan hissa bi Haq Nawaz ko nahin mila magr phir bi Haq Nawaz thah ba-haya ziyada mahsoos kar gaya ... Naumani toh ... toba toba sab kuch balkay dhoti izzat haya bi medaan mein chor baga thah. Dhoti ki izafat meri apni taraf say heh ... effect ki khatir add keeh heh ... haqiqat say talluq nahin he is ka.
4. Munazra Jhang kohi panch dafa suna aur doh dafa par chuka hoon. Allamah Ashraf Sialvi Sahib rahimullah nay toh bar bar kaha sharait mein likha heh kay un kay dalahil hoon kay jin ki talimat ki waja say donoon Jammatoon ki bunyad qaim huwi. Hamaray Ulamah mein jin ki waja say yeh bunyad bani woh Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat,  Sayyid Naeem ad-Deen Muradabadi,  Maulana Sardar Ahmad,  Ala Hdhrat kay bhai, betay,, Maulana Hashmat Ali Khan  (Allah ka sab par karam o raham ho ameen). Aap kay Maulvi nay Ulamah mein say Alllamah Sialvi Sahib kay ham asar Ulamah kay referrence denay shoroon kar deeya ... misaal tor par Allamah Ucharvi rahimullah. Yeh jayyid Aalim toh hen magar Uqabir nahin. Is kay muqabileh mein Allamah Ashraf Sialvi rahimullah un Maulviyoon ka hawala deh rahay thay joh aap kay mazhab ki bunyad hen aap kay uqabir hen.  Yehni ham aap kay awal generation ki gustakhiyan sabat keren aur aap kay Haq Nawaz Sahib third generation Maulviyoon kay dalahil pesh karay.


Itni zillat ko literol hona kay baad bi Saeedi Sahib jawab denh. Panga muj say aur jawab Saeedi Sahib denh. Abba hazoor say panga hi keun keeya heh keh yeh shor karnay par majboor ho rahay hen kay dada hazoor nay jawab nahin deeya. Dada hazoor aap ko moonh nahin laga rahay toh shor daala huwa heh magr apnay abba hazoor say keun baag rahay hen. Kia mein nay aap ki ziyada shalwar utaar deeh heh. Wesay mujjay kehna nahin chahyeh keun kay yeh bachoon ko shalwaren toh Deobandi madarassoon mein utari jaati hen aur kitaboon mein subut heh. Tumari bi utari hogi. Logh kehtay hoon gay kesa zalim heh buri memories ko refresh kar deeya heh zalim nay.

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On 10/20/2020 at 8:07 PM, hanfigroup said:

besharam   insan,
kci    abujal    ki    old.
post   ka   jawab    dy,    pahly  b tum  aisy   kar k jaan. bachaty ho.
taira     bara munazara     saeedi    bagura     aik   saal    sy  farar   hy.   us   besharm     ko    b   kaho   j awab dy

Aik aur baat, muj say jitni bi tumari baat huwi aur jis mozoo par bi huwi tum sab par hi la-jawab huway aur aakhir mein aik hi shor sunahi deeya ... Urdu mein likho roman Urdu mein nahin. Mein sirf Urdu mein likhi huwi ka jawab doon ga.  Dosray tum ko ziyada moonh nahin lagatay keun kay un ko masroofiat, rozi roti, mehnat mazdoori, gar bar chalana, kheti-bari karna, Pakistan mein bijli ki problems, pesoon ki problems, is waja say woh chand pattay ki batenh likh kar chup ho jatay hen. Mein England mein betha hoon Allah kay karam say pesoon ko kami nahin. 2 din kaam karta hoon,  5 din khao piyo moj maro aur tumaray jaisay pagloon ki besati aur hidyat wasteh masroof raho. Yeh heh asal waja baqi keun chup kar jatay hen aur mein tumari shalwar ki jandi bana kar lehranay wasteh bi aa jata hoon. Wesay agar mujjay pata lag gaya kay tum kahan rehtay ho mein tumaray muhallay kay larkoon ki gawahi youtube kay channel par laga kar dam loon ga kay tumaray saath bachpan mein larkoon nay foul khela huwa heh. Us din say daro jis din mujjay pata chal gaya. Tumaray abbah, ammi, aur tumaray shanakhti card kay saath youtube par video gawahoon ki video upload karoon ga. Readers is baat ko note keren mein is ko bichlay doh teen saloon say sexual abuse ka victim teh-raha hoon aur is nay aik dafa bi is ka inqaar nahin keeya. Fiqha ki kitaboon mein heh kay Nikkah mein larki ki khamoshi qubuliat ka darja rakhti heh. Aur sexual abuse mein bi is khamoshi ko ilzaam ko qubul karna hee samajyeh.

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*******************************   kali aqal waly

apny kalay dil ki tarah page kalay na kar.

jis   post   ka jawab saeedi  ny  de saka tu eska jwab urdu main point wise lekh dy

khamkha post kar k apna aur barelvion ka moun kala na karwa

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