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Thanvi Ke Malfozaat Tasneef Ka Darja Rakhte Hain


Toheedi Bhai

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Ur manfi shb:

 

Shrm magertum ko nahi ati ager bakol ap ka AHL-e-Sunnat ka nazdek malfozat mohtaber nahito deogandi humhen malfozat ka hawaalnahi da sakte mager deogandioun logoun ka nazdek to mohtaber hain . ya to wobat ho gaye “ jase hamre nazdek yahodioun ki kitaben mohtaber nahi un main therefha hum ager un sa discussion Karen aur un ko un ki kitab ka hawala dain to woage sa kahen ka tumhare nazdek ya kitab mohtaber nahi to kitni jahlana bathogi aur jo hawal dia jata ha agle kausool ko madenazar rakte huye dia jata ha ka us ka nazdek mahtber ha ka nahi aur ab ya to deogandi be yasabit karen ka un nazdek malfozat mohtaber nahi to tab bat hogi samj ayideogandi shb

 

 

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Razavitiger,

 

Barelvi mazhab main malfoozat moutabar nahe hain. ye ap ki book main lekha howa ha. lehaza jo cheez ap k akabar k nazdeek moutbar nahe tu eska matlab agar ap usko moutbar jantay ho to barelviyat mazhab say ghadari hoe yan nahe.

 

Yehan par na baat horahe ha deoband malfoozat ko moutbar jantay hain yan nahe. ye alag mouzo ha. yahan par jo baat horahe ha wo karo.

 

Magar wo barelvi he kiya jo to the point baat karay.

 

Tell me Malfoozat acceptable in barelviyat, ye then then it mean you are rebel of your akabar.

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Ur manfi:Pherwohe bat akal ha ka nahi acha hamre kis akabir na bolo ka sare malfozat hamre nazdek mohtaber nahi?

 

Ager yasabit kar do to phale apni batil forum pa ja kar deogandioun ko be bolna kajahilo AHla Hazrat ka sare malfozat ko hata do khun ka wo sunnioun ka nazdekmohtber nahi theik ha. Munafikt be had hoti ha .

 

Dosri batager throi dair ka leye main be lia jaye ka hamre nazdek sare malfozat mohtabernahi to ider koun sa kisi Sunni Alam ka malfozat pash kia hain deogandi thavika malfozat hain .

 

Aur ager hamre nazdek sare Malfozat mohatbernahi bakol tumhare to ienda deogandi kisi malfoz ka hawla na dain hum to dasakte hain jahil kuch to akal sa kam lia karo.

 

bilkul AHLE SUNNAT main ager malfozat sahe sanda aur mustaned hawaloun sa mil jayen to kanile kabool hain. samaj ayi aur ap zara ya sabit karo ka hamre nazdek sare malfozat acceptable nahi? i m witng fro ur reply

 

 

Mager wohe bat deogandi ho akal istemal karenanananananlaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif.

 

 

 

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Razavitiger,

 

Akal k anday, main jo baat kar raha hoon uska tun jawab nahe dyta, yahan baat Alhe Sunnat wal jamat deoband ki nahe horahe.

 

Yahan par baat ahle bidate ki horahe ha. aur ap k forum k sab jantay hain k kiss nay baat ki thi k mulfoozat moutabar nahe. ye saeedi yan khalil rana say ap private messge say pouch saktain hain.

 

Ab akal say khali raza mujay bata tumahary mazhab k mutabak malfoozat moutabar nahe aur agar tum malfoozat k hawalay do tu tum apnay mazhab say ghadari karo gay yan nahe.

 

Ab dobara deoband ki baat na karna k wo halawala dytay hain yan nahe dytay unki na baat horahe ha yahan barelviyat ki horahe ha.

 

Mager wohe bat razakhani ho akal istemal karenanananananlaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif

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deo ka bande Manfi akal istemal karo ,

 

Akbreensa gadari ka ilzam lagya tum na maine hawala manga tum kahne lage main Saeedishb sa pouchoun kia Saeedi bahi akber hain kuch to akl ko hath maro muje hawaldo kis Akabir na ya bolo ka Sare malfozat mohtaber nahi?

 

Kisbat ka jawab main na mano har wali bat ha tum deogandioun Whkhe he doegandi thnvi na theik he kaha thaka sare kam faham aur akal ka enday deogandi mare hise main he aya gaye hain khun.

 

 

Achaager saeedi shb na bolo be ha ka sare malfozat mohtaber nahi to pher wohe batka tum log ienda malfozat ka hawala na dana khun ka hamre nazdeek bakol tumharesare malfozat mohtaber nahi.mager tum logoun ka nazdeek to mohtebr hain na . ohe deo ka bande kuch to akal koistemal karo . aur akabir ka hawala dojis ka tum na dawa kia ha ka akber ka Maslik ki kilaf warzi kar rahe ho?

 

jahan akal ho wahan deogandii nahi hota aur jahan deogandi ho akal nahi hotilaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.giflaugh.gif

 

 

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tamam membran se guzarish hai ki fizul guftgu se parhez karein...taki mukhalif ko usi zuban ko istemaal karny ka moqa na mily...or jahan tak ho batcheet mozu se hat kar na karein...(ja)

 

imhanfi sahab kya aapko thanwi ke malfuzaat ki sehat mein koi shak hai bawajood isky ki in malfuzaat ko unki zindagi me hi unko chk karwa karwa kar jama kiya gaya ho...Jahan tak Ahle Sunnat ke liye aap malfuzaat hujjat na hony ka apny ref. quote kiya hai to arz hai ki aap deobandis ko "ibarat e akabir ..." ka ref tab nafa baksh hota jab ki malfuzaat e thanwi ko khud thanwi sahab chk na karty...jabki deegar malfuzaat ke bary me aisa saboot nahin lihaza ye ehtmaal to har haal hoga hi ki jis shakhs ki taraf malfooz mansoob hain uski tasdeeq inhy hasil thi ya nahin ? Ummed hai ye lateef nuqta aap jaisy zaheen shakhs ki aql me aa gaya hoga...(ia)

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Ya Sahab,

 

Lyn ab ap ki kasar baki thi.

 

Ye baat apnay barelvi member ko samjain, k natu gandi zuban istamal karain aur na fazool post.

 

Maira ap say sawal ha k Barelvi Mazhab main jab aik cheez moutbar he nahe tu ap usko count kar k apnay ulma ki mukhalafat kar rahay ho yan nahe. Ahle sunnat deoband k nazdeek moutbar honay yan na honay ki tu baat he nahe kar raha. post ap kartay akabar ap k esko mutabar nahe mantay tu kiya ap anay akabar k baghi howay k na.

 

JO baat horahe ha uska jawab dain simple.

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Ya Sahab,

 

Maira ap say sawal ha k Barelvi Mazhab main jab aik cheez moutbar he nahe tu ap usko count kar k apnay ulma ki mukhalafat kar rahay ho yan nahe. Ahle sunnat deoband k nazdeek moutbar honay yan na honay ki tu baat he nahe kar raha. post ap kartay akabar ap k esko mutabar nahe mantay tu kiya ap anay akabar k baghi howay k na.

 

JO baat horahe ha uska jawab dain simple.

 

to mein kya apki nani ke bary me jawab de raha hun jo aap keh rahy hain ki jo baat ho rahi hai uska jawab dein simple..goya ap kehna chah rahy hain ki hum aisi ilmi batein na poochy jo apki sehtmand aql par baar guzry tabhi to apny apna wahi purana sawaal dohraya jiska jawab mein apni last post mein de chuka tha aapny shayad dhyan nahin diya...ek bar chashma laga kar phir parein...

 

ki aap deobandis ko "ibarat e akabir ..." ka ref tab nafa baksh hota jab ki malfuzaat e thanwi ko khud thanwi sahab chk na karty...jabki deegar malfuzaat ke bary me aisa saboot nahin lihaza ye ehtmaal to har haal hoga hi ki jis shakhs ki taraf malfooz mansoob hain uski tasdeeq inhy hasil thi ya nahin ? Ummed hai ye lateef nuqta aap jaisy zaheen shakhs ki aql me aa gaya hoga...

 

 

rahi baat ki aap humsy poochty hain ki, "aap apny akabir ki bat na maan ke unsy baghi na huey ?".... to iska jawab aapko diya ja chuka hai red highlighted text mein...

 

ab aap humy ye jawab dein ki aap hi ke isi usool ke tehat aap apny thanwi sahab ke tasdeeq shuda malfuzaat ko apny thanwi ka na mankar BAGHI kyu na huey?

 

or ab agar koi maqool jawab hai to dein warna fizul layani guftgu karny mein aap logon ka saani nahin...otherwise ye topic lock kar diya jayeg...(ia)

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wha wha manfi shb galian dana to tum logoun ka pasha ha batil forum bhara para in sa dosar bar maine bolo tha ka " hamre kis akbir na bolo ka sare Malfozat mohtber nahi hote " mari post gor sa pharo jahil admi . aur jawab main Molana Naseer Sialvi ka hawala dia aur us main ya bat mojid henahi jis ka tum na dawa kia ha baz baten lo ge deogandi shb ki nayi mantak " baz batoun k galt hone sa sare malfozat he nakabile itebar ho jaye hain kia? hahahahahah

ALLAH ki ksam muje yakeen ho gaya ha ka deogandi aur akal main dor dor ka wasta be nahi ha.

 

 

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Hawla do" kis AKBIR NA BOLO KA SARE MALFOZAT NAKABILE ITEBAR YA SARE MALFOZAT MOHTEBRE NAHI " manfi shb hawla hawla hawla.

mari admi bahi sa request ha ka is ka naya topic shuru kar dain jayn manfi shb muje akbreen sa ya hawla dain aur is sa age bat ho .

aur akbir ka matlb pata ha tumhen.

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Admin,

 

Mairi posts delete karnay say bahtar ha k mujy waisay he kah2 k forum say chalay jo, Nasir Nouman

ki b ap nay ye kah kar post delete kardi k tum nay purani post ki ha, ap legay rahnay dytay faisal logoon

nay karna ha. ap tu apnay faisla k mutabak winner ho.

 

 

tumhari post delete nahin ki gayi balki unapprove ki gayi hai...or usmy siwaye orton ki tarah galiyan dene ke or kuch nahin tha...aap itna shor na macahyein ki post delete kar di or ban kar do jaisy ki aap ne dalail ke paharh ikaththa kar diye hain..mene aap se pehly hi kaha tha ki koi maqool jawab ho to dein warna apny hathon ko zehmat na dein...it is your last chance otherwise ye tasleem kar liya jayega ki Deobandi member is mamly me lajawab ho chukey hain..topic is going to be locked in that case...

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جی دیوبندی جی

 

ملفوظات میں سننے،سمجھنے،یاد رکھنے اوربیان کرنے

 

کے مراحل ھوتے ھیں اور کسی بھی مرحلے میں خطا

 

کا احتمال ھوسکتا ھے۔ اس لئے ملفوظات کی نسبت قطعی

 

نہیں ھوتی بلکہ ظنی ھوتی ھے۔ مگرتمہارے تھانوی جی

 

کے نزدیک وہ بالکل مقبول ھوتے ھیں چنانچہ السنۃ الجلیۃ

 

فی الچشتیۃ العلیۃ میں وہ اسی موقف پر ھے۔

 

پھر ارواح ثلاثہ اورشمائم امدادیہ اور امدادالمشتاق کو اُس

 

نے تشریحی حواشی لکھ کر اپنی تصانیف بنا لیا ھے۔ ایسے

 

ھی اُس کے اپنے ملفوظات بھی اُس کی نظرثانی اور اصلاح

 

کے بعد اُس کی زیرنگرانی شائع ھوئے تواُن کی نسبت تھانوی

 

کی نسبت قطعی ھے۔ تو وہ دیوبندیوں کے خلاف بہر صورت

 

حجت ھوں گے۔

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Subhan Allah.

Allah ap ke Mehnat o Tehqeeq ko Qabool Fermae....ameen

 

Wayse ye bhi latifa hay k deobandi mazhab ab apnay molvio ke tareef mei likhey jany walay "Malfozat" sey he rahe farar kar rahay hain.

 

Deobandio mazhab ky founders ky malfozat per aiteraz ke asal wajha ye hain ky unke likhnay wale Deo Mulla Mustand hain,aor unke aksariat khulfa/student hain.

 

Question to Deobandis:

Deobandi Ulma ka kiya moaqif hay malfozat e thanvi ,Tazkar tu Rahsdeed, Tazkar tu Khalil etc k barey me?

 

Kiya inn malfozat ky writers mustand guru ghantal nahi?

 

Kiya ab tak kisi malfoz ko Deobandi ulma ny jhoot qarar diya?

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Ap main ap tamam barelvion ko kiya kahon. jo mainy baat pouch kissi nay us ka jawab nahe diya aur new story post karnay start kardeen.

 

KIA BARELVI MAZHAB MAIN MALFOOZAT MOUTABAR HAIN (YAKEEN NAHE) AUR AP K AKABAR NAY ES SAY POINTS LEYNAY SAY MANA KIYA

 

AB AGAR KOE BARELVI MAZHAB WALA KISSI DOSARY KI MALFOOZAT PAR BAAT KARY TU WO BARELVI MAZHAB SAY GHADARI HOGI.

 

Yahan par tu ye baat mainy start main he kahi thi k deoband k nazdeek moutbar hain yan nahe es par tu baat he nahe hosrahe. kiya Ahmed Raza yan dosaroon k malfoozat jin loogon nay lekhay kiya wo barelvi mazhab main moutbar nahe thay. kuun EXPOSINGNIFAG sahab.

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Ap main ap tamam barelvion ko kiya kahon. jo mainy baat pouch kissi nay us ka jawab nahe diya aur new story post karnay start kardeen.

 

KIA BARELVI MAZHAB MAIN MALFOOZAT MOUTABAR HAIN (YAKEEN NAHE) AUR AP K AKABAR NAY ES SAY POINTS LEYNAY SAY MANA KIYA

 

AB AGAR KOE BARELVI MAZHAB WALA KISSI DOSARY KI MALFOOZAT PAR BAAT KARY TU WO BARELVI MAZHAB SAY GHADARI HOGI.

 

Yahan par tu ye baat mainy start main he kahi thi k deoband k nazdeek moutbar hain yan nahe es par tu baat he nahe hosrahe. kiya Ahmed Raza yan dosaroon k malfoozat jin loogon nay lekhay kiya wo barelvi mazhab main moutbar nahe thay. kuun EXPOSINGNIFAG sahab.

 

Aqal me Deo band ho tu haqq samjh nahi ata

 

Kisi Sunni alim ny ye nahi kaha k har malfooz ghair moutabar hay.Ibarat e Akabir ky tehqeeqi jawab me bhi sirf Al fawaid e faridya k hawaly sey ye baat likhay gaey hay,even osme Alahazrat (ra) k malfozat ko bhi shamil nahi kiya gaya.

 

har Sunni alim Malfozat e AlaHazrat ko moutabar janta hay.kabhi kisi mustand sunni alim ny is baat ka inkar nahi kiya.

 

Ap meray asan se sawalat k jawabat dein,Insha Allah deobandio ky malfozat se farar k bahana kahtam ho jaey ga.

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