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Ilm zahir ki khasusiat par bi Sunni iman lahay, bata gahay Ahmad Raza ki rah walay.
Ilm e ghayb toh hi Nabi ki khasusiyat heh, nah samaj pahay issay tum Deoband walay.

Heh eman walo, mat ra'ina kaho, chor gay Sahabah, joh thay aur hen Eman walay.
Bila-taweel ra'ina chora, ra'ina o taweel, nah chor pahay, Kafir tum deoband walay.

Kaha nah, esa makhrooh khiyal bi na aya, eh Rabb, ra'ina say roknay walay.
Keun ke woh thay ashab e RasoolAllah, bahanay baaz tum Deoband walay.

 

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Ulamah e Islam, apnoon say mansoob keren, bey-izzat firqay walay.
Fazal e Haq Khayr par abad thay, deo-abad ho tum Deoband walay.
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Imam Fazl Haq Khayrabadi (rahimullah alayhi ta'ala) nay Syed Shah Aale Rasool Qadri Badayuni (rahimullah alayhi ta'ala) ki kitab, Al Motaqid al muntaqid, ki taqreez mojood heh. Apnay jhootay mazhab ko taqwiyat denay kay leyeh Musalman Ulamah ko apnay say mansoob kar rahay ho.
 

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Muhammad Ali

 

ap ki post mairy sawalon ka jawab nhe dosary bat barelvi ulma ki ketab hamary leye hujat nhe esko apny pass he rakho 

 

mairy post ka point wise jawab du

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Ilm zahir ki khasusiat par bi Sunni iman lahay, bata gahay Ahmad Raza ki rah walay.
Ilm e ghayb toh hi Nabi ki khasusiyat heh, nah samaj pahay issay tum Deoband walay.

Heh eman walo, mat ra'ina kaho, chor gay Sahabah, joh thay aur hen Eman walay.
Bila-taweel ra'ina chora, ra'ina o taweel, nah chor pahay, Kafir tum deoband walay.

Kaha nah, esa makhrooh khiyal bi na aya, eh Rabb, ra'ina say roknay walay.
Keun ke woh thay ashab e RasoolAllah, bahanay baaz tum Deoband walay.

Ulamah e Islam, apnoon say mansoob keren, bey-izzat firqay walay.
Fazal e Haq Khayr par abad thay, deo-abad ho tum Deoband walay.


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Fazal e Haq par Fazal thah, ham-maslak woh Fazal Rasool walay.
Kuen likhtay al-motaqid par taqreez woh, hotay agar Deoband walay.

Bey-iman Dhul Quwaisirah jesa, nah ahle Taweel thah, tum dawa iman walay.

Taweel, towheen e RasoolAllah ki karo, kesay bey-aqal ho tum Deoband walay.

 

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Heh eman walo, mat ra'ina kaho, chor gay Sahabah, joh thay aur hen Eman walay.

Bila-taweel ra'ina chora, ra'ina o taweel, nah chor pahay, Kafir.

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"Narrated Jabir bin `Abdullah: We were with Allah's Messenger collecting Al-Kabath at Mar-Az-Zahran. The Prophet said, "Collect the black ones, for they are better." Somebody said, (O Allah's Messenger! Have you ever shepherded sheep?" He said, "There has been no prophet but has shepherded them." [Ref: Bukhari, B65, H364] "Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: The Messenger of Allah as saying: Each of you is a shepherd and each of you is responsible for his flock. The amir (ruler) who is over the people is a shepherd and is responsible for his flock; a man is a shepherd in charge of the inhabitants of his household and he is responsible for his flock; a woman is a shepherdess in charge of her husband's house and children and she is responsible for them; and a man's slave is a shepherd in charge of his master's property and he is responsible for it. So each of you is a shepherd and each of you is responsible for his flock." [Ref: Bukhari, B19, H2922] "Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Messenger said, "Whilst a shepherd was amongst his sheep, a wolf attacked them and took away a sheep. The shepherd chased it and got that sheep freed from the wolf. The wolf turned towards the shepherd and said, 'Who will guard the sheep on the day of wild animals when it will have no shepherd except myself?" The people said, "Glorified be Allah." The Prophet said, "But I believe in it and so do Abu Bakr and `Umar although Abu Bakr and `Umar were not present there (at the place of the event)." [Ref: Bukhari, B57, H39]

Aur un ko Ra'i e Ummat kehna kohi nuqsan qadr wali baat nahin.RasoolAllah nay wazahat kay Ummat kay responsible banday ra'i hen aur hadith say sabat heh kay Ra'i ka mansub hifazat wala heh. RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'allam) ko Ra'i e Ummat tehrana unnay ummat kay muhafiz honay kay mansub par sabat karna heh. Murtadeen kay mutaliq farmaya kay woh qayamat kay din esay camel ki tara hoon gay jin ka kohi Ra'i nahin. Mafoom mukhalif huwa kay, Ummat e RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) kay Ra'i RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa alihi was'sallam) hen. Ra'i bamana badsha bi heh, aur badsha e ummat hona bi sabat heh, check Feroz Ul lughat. Agar lafz Ra'i akelay istimal hota toh phir ihtimal thah kay, ra'i bamana bakriyon ka charwaha ho. Magar jab wazia ra'i e ummat farmaya toh, mafoom wazia ho gaya kay lafz mafoom mein istimal nahin huwa. Aur Ala Hazrat ki ibarat kay context say sabat huwa kay unoon nay Ra'i bamana muhafiz keeya heh, keun kay unoon nay likh: "... aur muhabbat baray dil say hafiz haqiqi kay supurd kar raha heh." Yehni RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'allam) ra'i/muhafiz mein hen aur haqiqat mein Allah hi hafiz heh jin kay supurd Ummat ko kar rahay hen.

Ambiyah alayhis salaam ka shepherd hona sabat heh aur RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ka Ra'i honay ka iqrar Nabi e kareem (sallalahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) say huwa, joh Sunnat qawli banta heh. Aap ko ihtiraz huwa kay Sunnat e qawli say sabat lafz ka istimal Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat nay keeya aur mujrim tehray.
Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat Sunnat e Qawli par amal kay mujrim. Wah! Kia chawal fehm heh Deoband ki. Aakhir mein arz heh, kay joh Raina Quran mein heh, hamara charwaha, wala nahin, balkay al-ru'una say heh. Kissi tafsir ko parh loh phir ihtiraz karna.

Heh eman walo, mat ra'ina kaho, chor gay Sahabah, joh thay aur hen Eman walay.
Bila-taweel ra'ina chora, ra'ina o taweel, nah chor pahay, Kafir, tum deoband walay.

Kaha nah, esa makhrooh khiyal bi na aya, eh Rabb, ra'ina say roknay walay.
Keun ke woh thay ashab e RasoolAllah, bahanay baaz tum Deoband walay.


Sahabah e kiram joh sahih ul aqeedah thay aur ba-adab thay, unoon nay kohi excuse nahin banaya aur raina ka istimal chor deeya magar thanvi sahib ko jab ba khabr keeya gaya toh us nay kia kaha, kay esa behuda khiyal meray dil mein bi nah aya aur phir yeh taweel, woh taweel, idhar taweel udhar taweel, joh abhi taq jari heh. Halan kay Sahabah bi toh lafz kay istimal par behas kar saktay thay, esa nahin wesa thah, niyat esi thee, wesi thee, jesi thee, magar kohi taweel nahin ki apnay amal ki. unoon nay bila-taweel chora. Keun kay woh iman walay thay. Uneh zeroorat nahin thee. Woh ba-adab thay aur ba-iman thay. baqi sheron say wazia heh.

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Ala Hadhrat ra'i kay istimal say mujrim huway, woh Sunnat e Qawli par amal walay
Ambiyah Ummatoon kay ra'i hen, oonth baghayr ra'i jesay, tum ho Deoband Walay.

Apnoon ki gustakhiyoon ki ra'i say parda poshi heh, keren woh yeh kam kalay dil walay.
Ra'i e ummat, mansub nabuwat ka heh, sari towheen kay murtaqib tum Deoband walay.
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RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'allam) ko Ra'i e Ummat tehrana unnay ummat kay muhafiz honay kay mansub par sabat karna heh

joh Sunnat qawli banta heh.

Heh eman walo, mat ra'ina kaho, chor gay Sahabah, joh thay aur hen Eman walay.

Bila-taweel ra'ina chora, ra'ina o taweel, nah chor pahay, Kafir

 

 

Ra'i bamana badsha bi heh, aur badsha e ummat hona bi sabat heh, check Feroz Ul lughat.

Kitni besharmi sy apny imam ki gustakhi aur kufr pr taweel fasida kr rhy ho jbky tmhary brho ny bhi likha ha k niat e toheen k baghair bhi Hazoor s.a.w.w ki trf iss lafz ki niabt krna kufr o ghustakhi ha,

Aur ye sirf tmhari munafqat expose krny k lye tha himat kro aur bella sahib k sawalo ko jawab do

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Sahabah e kiram joh sahih ul aqeedah thay aur ba-adab thay, unoon nay kohi excuse nahin banaya aur raina ka istimal chor deeya magar thanvi sahib ko jab ba khabr keeya gaya toh us nay kia kaha, kay esa behuda khiyal meray dil mein bi nah aya aur phir yeh taweel, woh taweel

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Jaa-yeh ga mat, jahan taq aap mojood hen mujjay bi is complete karnay ka moqa mil raha heh. In sha Allah joh aynda ihtirazat hoon gay, mazeed ambiguity clear hoti jahay gi. In sha Allah tamam asool e ahle sunnat idhar wazia kar doon ga, aur is'see style mein.

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Bey-haya, RasoolAllah ki zuban say niklay, pakiza ilfaz, tummen lagay gali walay.
RasoolAllah towheen o tanqees kartay thay kaho nah yeh tum Deoband walay.


Rasool ummat ka rai, khalifah khilqat ka ra'i, ilfaaz Nabi ki sunnat e qawli  walay
Woh tafseer thee, towheen ki taweel jissay samjay, bewaqoof tum Deoband walay.


Towheen sar'ri mein taweel nahin, kia samjay, pedawar najaiz talluqat walay.
Taweel karni heh toh karo phir, kaha, Haram kay ho sab tum Deoband walay.
(nahin jee, mera matlab Masjid Haram wala Haram heh.)


Towheen o Tanqees kay asool o zawabat tum sam'jay nahin nah samaj'nay walay.
Ahle iman say nahin, warna samaj'tay, Nabi ki tazeem, izzat, tum Deoband walay.
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Muhammad Ali

Agar tum haq k mutalshi ho aur Gharat mand ho tu kici ebarat par fatwa lagaty waqat kin batoon ko maddy nazar rakhna hota he jo asool deoband k leye hoonga wohe barelvion k leye honga 

 

Ajao medan main apny baki barelvion ko b ly ao aur sirf sirf baat Hasmul Haraman k mutabak hogi jo ulma haraman ko pesh ki

 

Mazeed sunlo Ahmed Raza pr Abdul Wahab najdi sy pahly ulma ny b Gumrah aur Quran ki tafseer sy jahal paya (ka fatwa deya). ye wo ulma thy jen ko ahmed raza haq par janta tha (Abdul Wahab najdi sy pahy ulma jab ahmed raza Haj karny gya tha)

 

Ye topic jes pr hy usko mat khrab kro agar kci k pass jawab hy tou do

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Muhammad Ali

Agar tum haq k mutalshi ho aur Gharat mand ho tu kici ebarat par fatwa lagaty waqat kin batoon ko maddy nazar rakhna hota he jo asool deoband k leye hoonga wohe barelvion k leye honga

 

Ajao medan main apny baki barelvion ko b ly ao aur sirf sirf baat Hasmul Haraman k mutabak hogi jo ulma haraman ko pesh ki

 

Mazeed sunlo Ahmed Raza pr Abdul Wahab najdi sy pahly ulma ny b Gumrah aur Quran ki tafseer sy jahal paya (ka fatwa deya). ye wo ulma thy jen ko ahmed raza haq par janta tha (Abdul Wahab najdi sy pahy ulma jab ahmed raza Haj karny gya tha)

 

Ye topic jes pr hy usko mat khrab kro agar kci k pass jawab hy tou do

Ye sag e barely sirf apny forum pr Ahle haq py bhonk k apni frustration nikaal skta ha ibaraat pr munazra krna isky bs ki baat nhi

Aur na ye iss thread k topic pr baat kr skta ha

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جو تحریر مخالف نے پیش کی ہے ،وہ مولانا فضل حق خیرآبادی کی نہیں، یہ تحریرمولانا شرف قادری

کو مولانا معین الدین کے برادر زادہ سے دستیاب ہوئی ہے، یہ منسوب تحریر لگتی ہے ،کیونکہ کتاب تحقیق الفتویٰ

میں جو متداول کتاب ہے ،اس میں آپ کا عقیدہ اس تحریر کے مخالف ہے۔

 

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بلا واقعی جاہل پیدا ہوا ہے۔اپنے مولوی کا گالی نامہ شہاب ثاقب بھول گیا ہے جس میں اس نے جھوٹ بول بول کر اپنی غلاظت ظاہر کی ہے۔تمہارے اکابرین تو اتنے رذیل ہیں کہ کتاب خود لکھ کر مستند اکابرین کے نام سے منسوب کر دیتے ہیں۔۔میں تو اپنے بھائیوں سے کہوں گا کہ ایسے جاہل سے گفتگو کرنے سے پرہیز کریں جسے بار بار جواب ملنے کے باوجود بھی سمجھ نہیں آ رہی

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sag SB agar kuch lekhni ki zahmat kr hi ly thi tu mary baton ka jawab dty mary post majood hy oska hara ba haraf jawab lekhi dou

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1.Mufti say jis bat ka fatwa talab kiya jata hay usi ka jawab daina mufti k zima hota...Is liye aysa sawal karna he hamaqat hay

2.Dosray sawal ka jawab Qadri Sultani Sb nay ilzami tor par diya hay k agar kitab parhi hay to kisi bat main apni hamnawai sabit karo..

3.Jahalat ke intiha hya aysa sawal karna...Agar kisi nay fatwa pocha hay to us nay ibarat naqal ke ho ge aur kaha ho ga k is shakhs ke yeh ibarat hay...

4,Maslay ke noiyat par depend karta hay..

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Sag Madina

 

Bat ko summerize karty huwa...... Fazal E Haq ny Kitab nahe pari aur sirf aur sirf jo unko sawal masool huwa usko par kar Shah Ismael Shahed RA par nam ly kar fatwa kufar laga deya

 

Jawab Yes or no main tamheed mat bandna

 

Baki barelvi SAG sy mutafiq hyn????? aisana ho k main agay baat start karoon tu koe aur tapak pary

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Billa g shayad pehlay din say aap ko yahi jawab diya ja raha hay laikan shaayad ap rasheed gangohi ke tarah andhay ho chukay hain

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Andha tu tara Ahmaq Raza Khan Barelvi tha jis ko samny pari roti nazar nahe ati thi

 

Kashmir, Qadri, Khalil and peshab noshi karny waly Muhammad Ali tum sab itefaq karty hona k Fazal Haq ny kitab nahe pari. 

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Deobandi billay tumharay wawailay say haqeeqat chup to nahi jay ge....Tarpo aur chillao gangohi andhay ke tarah

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Salam alayqum,
 

Sag e Madinah bhai, aap nay is Kafir ki dukhti rag par haath rakha toh mein nay socha kay mein bi thora daba doon.

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Andha tu tara Ahmaq Raza Khan Barelvi tha jis ko samny pari roti nazar nahe ati thi

 

Kashmir, Qadri, Khalil and peshab noshi karny waly Muhammad Ali tum sab itefaq karty hona k Fazal Haq ny kitab nahe pari. 

 

Gangohi andhay qavwa khor ko, andha kaha, yeh ilfaaz tumari na-pasand walay.
Gangohi ki itni tazeem heh, kay sach bi bura laga, buray ho tum Deoband walay.

Dehalvi Nabi say jhoot mansub karay, likhay; Nabi mar kar matti mein milnay walay.
Idhar tummen keun nah itni ghayrat aaye, Bella margay tum Kafir, Deoband Walay.

Ala Hadhrat ta-hayat sahib noor basr o samat thay, teray jhoot harami nishani walay.
(yeh gali nahin heh, agar shak ho toh zeroor wazahat talb kar lena, mein tumaray Murtaza Hassan Darbangi ki tarah gandi gali nahin deta).
Mushakat tehreer say nazr mein farq huwa, jhootay andhay dill ho tum Deoband walay.

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Heh eman walo, mat ra'ina kaho, chor gay Sahabah, joh thay aur hen Eman walay.

Bila-taweel ra'ina chora, ra'ina o taweel, nah chor pahay, Kafir, tum deoband walay.

 

Asaan ilfaaz mein upar walay sher ki wazahat:

 

Mashkook ka istimal sahabah nay chora, Thanvi nah chor paya ilfaaz towheen walay.

Kabi, niyat ka wawela, towheen ki tashreeh, bey-toba mara, maro gay Deoband walay.

 

Bast Al Banan, nay haq bata diya, phir bi atleast man loh, ilfaz shayba towheen walay.

Mashkook jumla chortay, deobandi aur thanvi, gar musalman hotay tum Deoband walay.

 

Dhul Quwaisirah towheen karnay wala, nah kam us kay bi towheen ki taweel walay.

Quwaisirah say sakht gustakh Rasool, kia kartay nahin taweel tum Deoband walay?

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