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Ala Hazrat Per Aitraz Ka Jawab Chahiye (Kya Ala Hazrat Se Ghalti Huwi?)

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To kya aap mantay hay kay apkay Ala Hazrat say ijtehadi ghalti huwi? Ha ya Na may jawab day.

باطل وہابی

اعلی حضرت نے ۱۰۵ دلائل دئیے ہیں اپنے موقف کے اثبات پر

ہمت کر کے ان ۱۰۵ کے جواب لکھ دینا ذرا ۔ ۔ ۔ ابھی حقیقت کھل جائے گی

ہم سے ۳ سوال جو اوپر اپنی پوسٹ میں کیے، بعد میں کرنا،، پہلے ۱۰۵ دلیلوں کے جواب (اور جس طرز و حیثیت کی دلیل ہے کتابوں میں اعلیحضرت کی، ویسی نوعیت کا جواب دینا۔ یعنی کتاب کا کتاب سے، سنت کا سنت سے، منطق کا منطق سے ، و علیٰ ھذا السبیل)۔،۔،۔

میں دعوی سے کہتا ہوں کہ تمہارے اندر اتنی لیاقت بھی نہیں کہ سیدی اعلی حضرت کی ان موضوعات پر لکھی کتب کی عبارات کا لفظی معنی بھی بیان کر سکو

اہم بات یہ ہے کہ یہ مسئلہ مختلف فیہ ہے، نہ اسکا مصالح دنیا سے لینا دینا اور نہ فلاح آخرت کا اس پر مدار۔۔۔۔۔ یقین نہ آئے تو اپنے علما کی مان کم از کم

 

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بالفرض اعلی حضرت نے اس موضوع پر غلطی کی تو کیا ہوگیا؟؟ ہم انکو معصوم نہیں مانتے ۔ ۔ ۔لیکن یہ رہتی دنیا تک نہیں ہونا کہ کوئی مائی کا لال انکے دلائل کا جواب دے پائے

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سائنسی کو دیوانہ وار ماننے والوں کے نام

Earth-is-stationary Proofs

"Are there any Earth-is-stationary proofs?", you might be asking.

Yes! -There are quite a few undeniable proofs that the Earth is stationary - that it does not rotate about its axis daily.

Why is that important?

“The most important element in heliocentric model is the Earth’s rotation about its polar axis”, says Dr. Shaban in his book, The Verses of Deus(page 77). The reason for that is obvious: If the Earth does not rotate 360 degrees in 24 hours, but if it does revolve around the sun, then one side would always be in daylight, while the other half would experience continual night. It would be similar to what we see of the moon, as it revolves around Earth.

Forget for a moment that no one has ever offered a logical explanation WHY the Earth would rotate on its axis! --and keep rotating for thousands of years. By the time you research the matter of Earth-goes-around-sun versus sun-goes-around-Earth, you will not need an answer to that, since only the second of these two options can be true = reality.

Let’s begin by listing some of the Earth-is-stationary proofs. (These are not necessarily given in any particular order of importance. In part, the order is to assist understanding, from one principle to the next.)

Short List of Earth-is-stationary Proofs

This list is by no means comprehensive, but it gives you some understanding of what can be searched out and verified as reality – truth that the earth is stationary and does not rotate about its polar axis.

1) If the Earth rotated about its polar axis, it would have to be moving fastest at the equator and slower at each mile closer to the north and south poles. Theoretically, the tiny point at each pole would not be moving at all. (We will explain this proof below, after listing a few additional points.)

2) As Dr. Shaban says, “The rotation of the air-layer next to the rigid Earth is without cause . . . [and] is the greatest hoax ever invented by mankind.” (Quoted from The Verses of Deus, page 77.) That is, there is no cause for the air atmosphere near the Earth to rotate with the Earth. If the Earth was rotating fast enough to complete 360 degrees every 24 hours, the atmosphere would long ago have been hurtled away. (And see point 3.)

3) Similar to points 1 and 2, IF the atmosphere was rotating along with the Earth, it would have to be moving faster at the equator than at any other northern or southern degree of latitude (= distance from the equator). But in fact, the atmosphere does not move – it has the same force (atmospheric pressure) except for relatively small, and predictable, variations based on altitude and temperature.

4) If the Earth was rotating as we are told (i.e., from west to east in direction), an airplane would have to travel much faster to fly from Los Angeles to Miami than from Miami to Los Angeles. And the required speed to fly west-to-east at cities close to the equator would be much greater than speed needed to go from, say, Toronto to Moscow (since the Earth’s speed of rotation closer to the North Pole would be less than farther to the south).

A Rotating Earth would be much different from ours

Okay. Are you ready for Earth-is-stationary point 1?

The earth is stationary. A rotating Earth would have to be moving fastest at the equator and slowest near the north and south poles.But there is no difference in speed at any point on the Earth’s surface, whether north of, south of, or at the equator. Therefore, the earth is stationary - not rotating about its polar axis.

The Earth is shaped rather like a sphere – a giant basketball. (It is not exactly spherical, but it is close enough that the difference in diameter or circumference at the equator and around the poles has no practical effect on the proof presented. In fact, the diameter at the equator is just over 12,756 kilometers, compared to nearly 12,714 kilometers for the polar diameter. The difference between the two is only about one-third of one percent. And, as a side point, since it will not be explained on this site at this time, the fact is that if the Earth was rotating, the polar diameter would be larger than the equatorial diameter.)

As an approximate sphere, the Earth has about the same diameter “any way you slice it” – as long as you “cut” through the center. That is, each slice thus has the same, maximum outer circle, called a circumference. (If the slice was thin and you laid it down on a table, you would be looking at a circle.)

For centuries, as a matter of convenience, mankind has designated artificial circles (each being a circumference) at various places running through the poles but east or west of each other at any point between poles and equator. These are defined as pinpointing degrees of longitude. Originally set up at Greenwich in England, by definition there are 180 degrees of east longitude and also 180 degrees of west longitude, for a total of 360 degrees. Since it was said (though never proved) that the earth rotated about its axis once in 24 hours, time zones were artificially placed approximately along each 15 degrees of longitude (since 15 times 24 equals 360). So we see that degrees of longitude can be used to state where something is in terms of east and west, and to tell time.

What about defining a geographic position in terms of north or south of the equator?

That is done by similar artificial, or defined, lines running parallel to the equator, called degrees of latitude.

There are significant differences between lines (circles around the earth) depicting latitude and lines (or, circles) depicting longitude:

• Every line of longitude is a full circumference of the earth and thus of the same length – that is, if you drew a line between any two points opposite each other on that line, it would go through the center of the Earth.

• Every line (circle) of latitude, except the one at the equator, is shorterthan the one at the equator. Only the equator is a full circumference of the Earth. This also means that only at the equator is it possible to draw a line between points on the circle of latitude and have it go through the center of the Earth. (The following diagram shows this clearly – this explanation is just to help impress the difference between lines and degrees of longitude and degrees of latitude.)

• There are (by definition) only 90 degrees of northern latitude and 90 degrees of southern latitude, for a total of 180 (as opposed to a total of 360 degrees of longitude).

Some of what all this means is an easily shown conclusion: If the Earth was rotating about its polar axis and we knew how fast it was going at the equator, it would be moving slower at any other degree of latitude – and at a proportionally slower speed the farther north or south of the equator one went.

Lines of Latitude: Note decreasing size (Circumference) as move from Equator to Poles

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For the Earth to rotate once in 24 hours, it would need to be moving at 1,669.8 kilometers per hour (km/hr) at the equator. (Note: 1,669.8 km times 24 = 40,075 km, which is the circumference of the earth at the equator. Perhaps you are used to that figure in miles, which is approximately 24,902 miles.)

In the diagram above, you see that the equator is in the middle of the globe, halfway between north and south (the poles). Compared to the latitude lines shown (above and below it) the equator obviously has the greatest diameter. Since circumference (i.e., the circle that goes all the way around the Earth) is given by the formula C=πd, the diameter of the earth at the equator is approximately 24,902 divided by 3.1416, or about 7,927 miles. –That would be the relative length of the center horizontal line in the diagram. Any of the other horizontal lines (i.e., the other latitude lines shown) is shorter – and the shortest are near the poles.

On page 70 of The Verses of Deus, Dr, Shaban includes the following table (used by permission): 

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Therefore, we have seen an Earth-is-stationary proof. If the Earth was rotating about its axis, someone in Quito, Ecuador would be traveling twice as fast from west to east as someone in Oslo, Norway – at any moment, and at every moment. Meanwhile, someone looking at the proverbial North Pole, would hardly be moving at all! But is that reality?

It takes just as long to travel 100 miles by air due east of Oslo, Norway (traveling at a set air speed) as it does to travel 100 miles by air due west, at the same air speed and altitude, if it is a calm day without wind. And, what is more, that is the same length of time it takes to travel 100 miles due east or due west of Quito, Ecuador on a wind-free day, given the same altitude and air speed!

How is that possible?

The earth is not rotating at all.

And consider the following:

We are told that he earth is moving very fast but that we do not feel the motion. If that was true, it would mean that the air is moving at the same speed as the part of the Earth that it is next to. Thus, the air at Quito, Ecuador is moving twice as fast as the air at Oslo, Norway.

But if the air at Quito is moving twice as fast as the air at Oslo, that would create the following “problems” that are not supported by reality:

An airplane that took off from Oslo on a clear day, heading west, would be going into a headwind of about 834.9 km/hr (= about 519 mph). Thus, it would need to travel at least the speed of a fast passenger jetliner to make even a few miles of headway. But if it took off heading east, it would hardly need to be using its jets to travel an expected distance for the time it was airborne.

Now, the above examples assume that the airliner was aided or hindered by the constant speed of the atmosphere around it. Does that have to be the case if the earth was rotating?

No, it does not have to be. It could be that the Earth is rotating, but the air (atmosphere) is not. –But that would mean that the air had been left behind as the earth rotated. (Actually, that would be the most logical conclusion of what would happen if the Earth rotated, but since we know the atmosphere is still here, that cannot be the case.)

Okay, let’s consider an atmosphere rotating along with the Earth under it:

Just as is the case at the two poles, the center of the Earth is moving very slowly if the Earth is rotating. Since it is half the diameter (= radius) of the Earth from the center to the surface, that distance is about 3,963 miles. Thus, an altitude of 10,000 feet only adds a little less than two more miles to that, if we are considering the distance from the center to a specific circumference above Earth.

We all know that a climber on a mountain that is 20,000 feet above sea level has considerably less oxygen to breathe than is available at Miami or some other spot at sea level. Yet, he or she is less than four miles above sea level. At some point (well less than ten miles above sea level?), a person would die from lack of oxygen.

All of this shows that there is more oxygen near sea level (i.e., at the surface of the Earth) than higher. The higher into the atmosphere one travels, the lower the amount of oxygen there will be, because the air is thinner: There are fewer molecules per cubic meter. That is true even though the percentage of oxygen is about the same (roughly 21 percent) at each level or altitude.

The atmosphere at sea level thus exerts more pressure than it does at higher altitudes. By definition, the atmospheric pressure at sea level is called one atmosphere (atm) and is 760 millimeters of mercury (760mmHg) – which is the same as 29.92 inches of mercury (in a barometer). That is an average of 14.7 pounds per square inch of downward pressure because of the weight of the air above. (In weather forecasting, actual barometric pressure is commonly given in millibars, a metric unit. One atm is equal to 1013.5 millibars.)

Those are facts. Other facts include what happens to a gaseous mixture, such as air, or the atmosphere, when it is away from the center of a rotating system. Dr. Shaban points out that:

“The rotational velocity of the air atmosphere, V, is given by: V=2πr/T Where r is equal to R + h, R is the radius of the rigid Earth, h is the altitude height (from the surface) and T is equal to 24 hours. In any rotational system, the larger is the radius r, the greater is the angular velocity V, the greater is the angular momentum (m V r), and the greater is the amount of inertia (m times r-squared), where m is the mass.” (pages 74 and 75)

He goes on to point out that 2π/T is a constant when Earth rotation is considered, since T = 24 hours.

Thus, “Each atmosphere layer should have a different angular velocity; the angular velocity becomes greater at higher altitude . . .”. He reminds us that the “rotational velocity at the surface of rigid Earth is 1670 km/hr.” But if one goes to an altitude of 500 km (which is getting toward the limit of the atmosphere and the boundary with space – but is not quite that far up), the “rotational velocity at this height is 1800 km/hr (500 m/s), which is the same as the peripheral speed of gas centrifuge.” (pages 77 and 78)

In other words, to be traveling along with the Earth as it rotates around its axis (if it did!), atmosphere at 500 kilometers would be moving at 500 meters per second (about 1,118 mph). Near sea level, the atmosphere would be traveling at 1670 km/hr, or about 1,037 mph. That is about 81 mph greater. So at 500 km (about 311 miles above sea level) the pressure of the atmosphere (gas) would be greater than at sea level. –It has to be, for, as Dr. Shaban points out, the principle of the centrifuge and the centrifugal pump is the same as would be for a rotating Earth: The greatest pressure is at the farthest point from the center of the rotating body or part.

Since we know that actual atmospheric pressure decreases with altitude instead, the Earth cannot be rotating and have the atmosphere we know.

Finally, for this page, the gaseous atmosphere, if rotating with the earth, would exhibit properties for which the centrifuge is made: Heavier elements and molecules would be driven outward. That means there would be relatively more oxygen than hydrogen at high altitudes, and more hydrogen than oxygen (by percentages) near sea level. That is because oxygen is heavier than hydrogen. And the result does not agree with reality (that says the percentage of oxygen stays the same with altitude - just the amount decreases). And that would mean that life as we know it on earth would not have survived.

But life has survived. So the Earth-is-stationary point is proven! The Earthdoes not rotate on its polar axis. This stands proven and absolutely destroys the possibility that heliocentricity could be true. -Because if the earth is stationary (in terms of having no rotation) but it did revolve around the sun, one side of the earth would be very hot and the other constantly frozen from lack of sunlight.

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To kya aap mantay hay kay apkay Ala Hazrat say ijtehadi ghalti huwi? Ha ya Na may jawab day.

Ap ne yeh sawal pooch kr apni jahalat dikhaye hai kyunki mujhe lgta hai apko science k bare main shayad kuch nai pta

9th class ki book utha kr dekhen physics ki science k ander kuch basic rules hote hain jin rules k uper koi bhi apni theory pesh kr sakta hai jaise k 

ALBERT EINSTIEN

ISSAC NEWTON

STEPHEN HAWKING

 

or bohaat sare scientists apne different views rakhte they har sadi k ander different scientists paida huwe jinhon ne apne different views rakhe kisi ne bhi yeh nai kaha k yeh scientists ghalat hain kyunki unhon ne apne knowledge or apne sadi or daur zamaney k mutabiq observation kee or aik theory present kee jis ko logon ne mana kuch ne nai mana

 

TAU KHUDA K BANDE JAB UN LOGON PER KISI NE AITRAZ NAI KIYA TAU ALA HAZRAT PE AITRAZ KYUN OR YEH DEENI MASLAH HI NAI JO IJTEHADI GHALTI KI BAAT KR RAHE HO JIS TARHAN UN scientists ne observation kr k apni theory present kee waise hi ALA hazrat ne kiya 

kuch scientists ki theories per expiriments krne k baad woh laws ban gaye jab k kuch ki sirf theories reh gayen

TAU KAISA AITRAZ ALA HAZRAT PER

 

OR JO SAWAL JIS TAREEKE Se poochA HAI WAISE HI MAIN AIK SAWAL POOCHTA HON OR CONDITION LGA DETA HON HAN YA NA MAIN JAWAB DENA HAI

SAWAAL HAI KYA APKO PTA HAI AP PAGAL HAIN?????

HAN YA NA MAIN JAWAB DEN 

AESE SAWAAL POOCHNA SIRF SHAITANI KRNA HAI

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ہمت کر کے ان ۱۰۵ کے جواب لکھ دینا ذرا ۔ ۔ ۔ ابھی حقیقت کھل جائے گی

 

بالفرض اعلی حضرت نے اس موضوع پر غلطی کی تو کیا ہوگیا؟؟ ہم انکو معصوم نہیں مانتے ۔ ۔ ۔لیکن یہ رہتی دنیا تک نہیں ہونا کہ کوئی مائی کا لال انکے دلائل کا جواب دے پائے

 

 

aap to bila bawaja josh may agai. aray may to aam awaam ko samjhany kay liyay bohat asaan alfaaz may sawal kar raha tha warna agar may technical detail may jata to kisi ko kuch na samjh ati. Alhamdulillah mujhay physics par kafi aboor hasil hay.

 

Dekhay baat asaan si hay. agar apkay Ala Hazrat ki eik bhi daleel ghalit sabit hogai to samjhay poori imarat gir gai. Filhal may apkay ala hazrat ki daleel 90 ka jawab day raha hu jokay daleel 91, 92, 93, 94 aur 95 ka jawab bhi hay.

 

Pehlay 2 ilzaami jawab:

 

1. ) Bilfarz eik train 150 gaaz fee ghanta (150 miles per hour) hi raftaar say ja rahi hay aur may apni seat pay betha hu. May chaat yani roof ki taraf eik gend( ball) pehnkta hu jo kay adhay second (1/2 second) baad wapis meray hath may girta hay. Leikin hona yay chahiyay tha kay us 1/2 second may, train ki raftaar aur harqat ka sabab, us ball ko meri seat say 38 gaaz (38 yards) pichay kay taraf girna chahiyay tha. To kya is ka yay matlab hay kay train sakin hay?

 

2. ) Isi tarha eik jahaz 800 km/hr ki speed say ja raha hota hay. Agar may seat number 20 pay bethay huway roof ki taraf eik chota pathar (stone) pehnta hu to woh seedha ja kay wapis meri godh may girta hay. Leikin hona ya chahiyay tha kay jitnay time kay liyay woh pathar hawa may tha, utni der may jahaz ko bohat agay nikal jana chahiyay tha aur us pathar ko pecchay ja kar girna chahiyay tha leikin esa nahi huwa. To iska matlab yay hay kay Jahaz sakin tha?

 

Azaan alfaaz may tehqeeqi jawab yay hay kay earth kay sath sath, fiza yani atmosphere bhi haqrqat may hay. To jitnay time may zameen apni jaga say sark gai , utnay hi time may haway may woh pathar bhi sark giya aur woh wapis usi jaga girta hay.

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سائنسی کو دیوانہ وار ماننے والوں کے نام

Earth-is-stationary Proofs

 

 

Christian websites say mawad uthana band karday aur kuch apna bhi dimagh istima karay. Agar apko enlgish samjh ati hay aur jo kuch apnay copy paste kiya hay woh bhi, to zara is forum ko visit karay jaha pay in sab bato ka rad mojood hay.

 

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/17050-north-south-4.html

 

Aur asaan alfaaz may iska jawab Coriolis effect hay:

 

http://nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/coriolis-effect/

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Ap ne yeh sawal pooch kr apni jahalat dikhaye hai kyunki mujhe lgta hai apko science k bare main shayad kuch nai pta

 

apnay khud hi title may likha " Kya Ala Hazrat say Ghalti huwi"? aur ab khud hi apnay upar fatwa laga diya :)

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aap to bila bawaja josh may agai. aray may to aam awaam ko samjhany kay liyay bohat asaan alfaaz may sawal kar raha tha warna agar may technical detail may jata to kisi ko kuch na samjh ati. Alhamdulillah mujhay physics par kafi aboor hasil hay.

 

Dekhay baat asaan si hay. agar apkay Ala Hazrat ki eik bhi daleel ghalit sabit hogai to samjhay poori imarat gir gai. Filhal may apkay ala hazrat ki daleel 90 ka jawab day raha hu jokay daleel 91, 92, 93, 94 aur 95 ka jawab bhi hay.

 

Pehlay 2 ilzaami jawab:

 

1. ) Bilfarz eik train 150 gaaz fee ghanta (150 miles per hour) hi raftaar say ja rahi hay aur may apni seat pay betha hu. May chaat yani roof ki taraf eik gend( ball) pehnkta hu jo kay adhay second (1/2 second) baad wapis meray hath may girta hay. Leikin hona yay chahiyay tha kay us 1/2 second may, train ki raftaar aur harqat ka sabab, us ball ko meri seat say 38 gaaz (38 yards) pichay kay taraf girna chahiyay tha. To kya is ka yay matlab hay kay train sakin hay?

 

2. ) Isi tarha eik jahaz 800 km/hr ki speed say ja raha hota hay. Agar may seat number 20 pay bethay huway roof ki taraf eik chota pathar (stone) pehnta hu to woh seedha ja kay wapis meri godh may girta hay. Leikin hona ya chahiyay tha kay jitnay time kay liyay woh pathar hawa may tha, utni der may jahaz ko bohat agay nikal jana chahiyay tha aur us pathar ko pecchay ja kar girna chahiyay tha leikin esa nahi huwa. To iska matlab yay hay kay Jahaz sakin tha?

 

Azaan alfaaz may tehqeeqi jawab yay hay kay earth kay sath sath, fiza yani atmosphere bhi haqrqat may hay. To jitnay time may zameen apni jaga say sark gai , utnay hi time may haway may woh pathar bhi sark giya aur woh wapis usi jaga girta hay.

اندھے وہابی

کاش کہ ٹھیک طرح سے پڑھ لیتے ساری کتاب

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Christian websites say mawad uthana band karday aur kuch apna bhi dimagh istima karay. Agar apko enlgish samjh ati hay aur jo kuch apnay copy paste kiya hay woh bhi, to zara is forum ko visit karay jaha pay in sab bato ka rad mojood hay.

 

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/17050-north-south-4.html

 

Aur asaan alfaaz may iska jawab Coriolis effect hay:

 

http://nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/coriolis-effect/

مسلمات عند الخصم سے پیش کیا وہ

:P  :P  :P  :P  :P 

مسلمانوں کے حوالہ جات کب مانتے ہیں وہابی!! اس لیے انکو کفار کے ہی دیتے ہیں

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Christian websites say mawad uthana band karday aur kuch apna bhi dimagh istima karay. Agar apko enlgish samjh ati hay aur jo kuch apnay copy paste kiya hay woh bhi, to zara is forum ko visit karay jaha pay in sab bato ka rad mojood hay.

 

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/17050-north-south-4.html

 

Aur asaan alfaaz may iska jawab Coriolis effect hay:

 

http://nationalgeographic.org/encyclopedia/coriolis-effect/

اور یہ ایفیکٹ کس وہابی نے پیش کیا تھا یا اسے بھی عیسائی لائے!!

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apnay khud hi title may likha " Kya Ala Hazrat say Ghalti huwi"? aur ab khud hi apnay upar fatwa laga diya :)

تمہارا شبیر عثمانی کیا کہتا ہے، کم از کم اسکی سن لیتے وہابی

یہ مسئلہ ’’حکما‘‘ میں مختلف فیہ رہا ہے

تو دلائل دونوں جانب سے ہوں گے

لیکن وہابی عقل کا کیا علاج؟؟

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apnay khud hi title may likha " Kya Ala Hazrat say Ghalti huwi"? aur ab khud hi apnay upar fatwa laga diya :)

باطل وہابی جی

تیار ہو جاو

جو فتوی اعلی حضرت پر منڈھنے چلے ہو، وہی اب امام رازی پر بھی لگاو

کیا ہی اندھی مت ہے وہابیہ کی۔،۔۔،۔،۔،۔،۔۔

امام رازی پر کیا حکم لگاو گے؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟؟

ان سے زیادہ فزکس آتی ہے وہابیوں کو؟؟۔۔،۔؟؟

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اندھے وہابی

کاش کہ ٹھیک طرح سے پڑھ لیتے ساری کتاب

 

 

May nay aap say asaan sawal poocha tha 3 lines may jiska aap nay eik lamba jawab copy paste kiya jis ka koi faida nahi kyonkay baki forum members ko kuch samjh nahi ani. Barai mehrbani mujhay 3-4 lines may is pooray jawab ka khulasa likh kay day takay may samjh jao kay apko is jawab ki khud samjh ai hay warna awaam samjh jaigi kay aqal ka andha kon hay. Idhr udhr ki batay nahi. Saaf Saaf khulasa likhay is pooray jawab ka idhr.

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apnay khud hi title may likha " Kya Ala Hazrat say Ghalti huwi"? aur ab khud hi apnay upar fatwa laga diya :)

AQAL K ANDHON GHOR SE PARH LIYA KRO SARI DISSCUSSION SCIENCE K ANDER KIS JAHIL NE BOLA HAI K FATWA LGTA HAI BEWAKOOFI KI INTEHA HO GAYE YAAR

AP 9TH CLASS KI NA PHYSICS KI BOOK PARHO US MAIN 1st CHAPTER PARH LENA 

KONSA NEW DEEN IJAAD KIYA HAI APNE JIS K ANDER SCIENCE PER BHI FATWE DIYE JA RAHE HAIN YAAR KYA BEWAKOOFI OR JAHALAT KI INTEHA HO GAYE HAI

 

JANAB TTILE MAIN LIKHA THA AESA TA KE ZYADA LOG THREAD DEKHEN OR JAWAB JALDI MIL JAYE OR GHOR SE DEKHEN MAINE WOH TITLE BRACKETS MAIN LIKHA HAI () 

OR DISSCUSSION MAIN TAU SABIT HO GYA GHALTI NAI HUWI OR DOOSRI BAAT YEH K KHUDA K BANDE SCIENCE MAIN KONSA FATWA LGTA HAI OR SCIENCE MAIN KAISE GHALTI HOTI HAI HAR BANDE KA APNA MAUKAF HOTA HAI SCIENCE MAIN YEH DEENI AQAID NAI HAIN YA FIQA NAHI HAI JIS MAIN IJTIHADI GHALTI SABIT KRNE PE TULE HUWE HO AP 

 

 

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May nay aap say asaan sawal poocha tha 3 lines may jiska aap nay eik lamba jawab copy paste kiya jis ka koi faida nahi kyonkay baki forum members ko kuch samjh nahi ani. Barai mehrbani mujhay 3-4 lines may is pooray jawab ka khulasa likh kay day takay may samjh jao kay apko is jawab ki khud samjh ai hay warna awaam samjh jaigi kay aqal ka andha kon hay. Idhr udhr ki batay nahi. Saaf Saaf khulasa likhay is pooray jawab ka idhr.

 

 

AWAAM KO CHORO APNI BAAT KRO SAAF SAAF YEH KAHO K MUJHE SAMAJH NAI AYE MAIN PARHA LIKHA NAI HON MERI SCIENCE KAMZOOR HAI

 

YEH DISSCUSSION SCIENCE KI A,B,C WALE KO HI SAMAJH AYE GE JO APKO NAI AATI

 

ALA HAZRAT NE OBSERVATION KR K SIMPLE AIK THEORY PRESENT KEE THEE JIS PER FATWA LAG HI NAI SAKTA KYUNKI WOH SCIENCE KA MAMLA THA OR DOOSRI BAAT YEH K AGAR YEH THEORY KISI AYAT YA HADEES K KHILAF HOTI PHIR FATWA LGTA

 

OR JO APNE sAWALAT POOCHE HAIN UN SAWALAT K JAWAB DENE K BAWAJOOD GHALTI SABIT NAI HO SAKTI KYUNKI JANAB SCIENCE MAIN FATWA NAI LGTA SIRF MASLAH YEH HAI K APNE SCIENCE PARHI HI NAHI HAR BANDE KA APNA MAUKAF HOTA HAI SCIENCE MAIN AP KISI KO SAHI YA GHALAT NAI KEH SAKTE

 

AP ITNI BEHAS SIRF IS LIYE KR RAHE HAIN KYUNKI NA TAU APNE KABHI OBSERVATION KO PARHA HAI KYA HOTI HAI WOH OR NA HI APNE KABHI PREDICTION YA THEORY KO PARHA HAI OR JO APKE AKABIR NE ILKHA UN SAB BATON KO SAUDIYA K RIYAL SAMAJH K HAzAM KR K DAKAR BHI NAI LEE

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Sara article parh lain

 

Ab bata do na kis page kay kis line pay jawab hay. Mujhay nahi mila jawab.

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Apnay questions repeat karain

 

 
1.  Chalo maan letay hay kay zameen sakin hay aur suraj uskay gird gumta hay. To phir kya aap log ya kehna chahtay hay kay chand (moon) ko zameen kay gird chakar lagany may 28 din lagtay aur surooj jo kay chand kay nisbatan, zameen say bohat door hay usay 24 ghantay lagtay hay zameen kay gird chakar laganay kay?
 
2. Saal may 365 din kyon hotay hay?
 
3. Bilfarz eik train 150 gaaz fee ghanta (150 miles per hour) hi raftaar say ja rahi hay aur may apni seat pay betha hu. May chaat yani roof ki taraf eik gend( ball) pehnkta hu jo kay adhay second (1/2 second) baad wapis meray hath may girta hay. Leikin hona yay chahiyay tha kay us 1/2 second may, train ki raftaar aur harqat ka sabab, us ball ko meri seat say 38 gaaz (38 yards) pichay kay taraf girna chahiyay tha. To kya is ka yay matlab hay kay train sakin hay?
 
4. ) Isi tarha eik jahaz 800 km/hr ki speed say ja raha hota hay. Agar may seat number 20 pay bethay huway roof ki taraf eik chota pathar (stone) pehnta hu to woh seedha ja kay wapis meri godh may girta hay. Leikin hona ya chahiyay tha kay jitnay time kay liyay woh pathar hawa may tha, utni der may jahaz ko bohat agay nikal jana chahiyay tha aur us pathar ko pecchay ja kar girna chahiyay tha leikin esa nahi huwa. To iska matlab yay hay kay Jahaz sakin tha?

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May nay aap say asaan sawal poocha tha 3 lines may jiska aap nay eik lamba jawab copy paste kiya jis ka koi faida nahi kyonkay baki forum members ko kuch samjh nahi ani. Barai mehrbani mujhay 3-4 lines may is pooray jawab ka khulasa likh kay day takay may samjh jao kay apko is jawab ki khud samjh ai hay warna awaam samjh jaigi kay aqal ka andha kon hay. Idhr udhr ki batay nahi. Saaf Saaf khulasa likhay is pooray jawab ka idhr.

وہابی جی

اب آیا اونٹ پہاڑ کے نیچے

دعوی تو یہ تھا کہ ’’جب وہابی جی کچھ لکھیں گے صحیح طرح تو کسی کو سجھ نہیں آنی (بوجہ ہماری کم علمی)’’مگر اب تو معاملہ الٹا ہوگیا

:P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P 

کھسیانی وہابی کھمبا نوچے

میں نے تمہارے تینوں سوالوں کے جواب سیدنا اعلی حضرت کے انہی رسائل سے دیا ہے، جن پر آپ نے اعتراض کرنے کی جسارت کی۔ ۔ ۔ تو اب انہی کو سمجھ کر اپنا جواب لو اگر عقل ہے تو

اسلامی محفل والے سب دیکھیں اب وہابی کا حشر

تم تو چلو ایک ان پڑھ گنوار وہابی ٹھہرے، تمہارے نام نہاد علما کا بھی کوئی حال نہیں ہے۔ ۔ ۔ ورنہ تھانوی، گنگوہی وغیرہ بھی تو ایسے موضوعات پر لکھتے، مگر انکو تو گستاخیوں سے فرصت ہی نہیں ملتی تھی

اپنے کسی عالم سے اعلی حضرت کا وہ جواب پڑھوا کر جواب لکھوا لاو،،، دیکھتے ہیں کتنے پانی میں ہو تم لوگ

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میرا ایک سوال ہے..........جو سیٹالائٹ زمین کے گرد گھومتے ہیں اور اپنا چکر 24 گھنٹوں میں مکمل کرتے ہیں انہیں جیوسٹیشنری سیٹلائٹ کہتے ہیں ,,,,,,اگر زمین ساکن ہے تو کیسے وہ سیٹلائٹ 24 گھنٹے زمین کے اوپر ایک ہی جگہ رہتا ہے؟ حالانکہ وہ گھوم رہا ہوتا ہے

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وہابی جی

اب آیا اونٹ پہاڑ کے نیچے

دعوی تو یہ تھا کہ ’’جب وہابی جی کچھ لکھیں گے صحیح طرح تو کسی کو سجھ نہیں آنی (بوجہ ہماری کم علمی)’’مگر اب تو معاملہ الٹا ہوگیا

:P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P 

کھسیانی وہابی کھمبا نوچے

میں نے تمہارے تینوں سوالوں کے جواب سیدنا اعلی حضرت کے انہی رسائل سے دیا ہے، جن پر آپ نے اعتراض کرنے کی جسارت کی۔ ۔ ۔ تو اب انہی کو سمجھ کر اپنا جواب لو اگر عقل ہے تو

اسلامی محفل والے سب دیکھیں اب وہابی کا حشر

تم تو چلو ایک ان پڑھ گنوار وہابی ٹھہرے، تمہارے نام نہاد علما کا بھی کوئی حال نہیں ہے۔ ۔ ۔ ورنہ تھانوی، گنگوہی وغیرہ بھی تو ایسے موضوعات پر لکھتے، مگر انکو تو گستاخیوں سے فرصت ہی نہیں ملتی تھی

اپنے کسی عالم سے اعلی حضرت کا وہ جواب پڑھوا کر جواب لکھوا لاو،،، دیکھتے ہیں کتنے پانی میں ہو تم لوگ

:P  :P  :P  :P  :P  :P 

 

Bohaaat khoob KashmeerKhan bhai jaan apne sahi point pakra hai 

Yeh log humare aik aitraz ka jawab nai den ge or khud sawaal pe sawaal kren ge

 

APNE SAHI PAKRA HAI JAHIL NAJDI WAHABI KO

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Mein nay Fauz Ul mubeen peri heh, is say sabat hota heh kay Ala Hazrat Steady State Theory kay qail thay. Yeh us zamany ki baat heh jis mein Big Bang aur Steady State Theory donoon competing theories theen. Us waqt BB sabat nahin thee. Sayyidi Ala Hazrat SST kay qail thay. Aur us waqt Albert Einstein bi steady state theory ka qail thah. Magar Ala Hazrat 1921 mein dunya say rukhsat ho gahay. Us kay baad 1925's mein Edwin Hubble nay BB ki taeed mein naqabil e tardeed shawaid pesh keeyeh. Aur BB phir qaim huwi. Einstein nay phir BB ki taraf ruju kar leeya magar keun kay Sayyidi Ala Hazrat dunya say rukhsat ho chukay thay is waja unneh moqa nah milla kay BB ki taeed mein joh observations Edwin Hubble nay pesh keen un ka mutalia kar patay.

Sayyidi Ala Hazrat ka mowaqif Ijtihadi khata par mabni heh. Quran o Hadith say joh ta'sur milta heh woh steady state theory wala hee heh. Misaal kay tor par Quran mein aya heh kay sooraj Allah kay takht say:

It was narrated that Abu Dharr (may Allah be pleased with him) said: The Prophet (blessings and peace of Allah be upon him) said to Abu Dharr when the sun set: “Do you know where it goes?” I said: Allah and His Messenger know best. He said: “It goes and prostrates beneath the Throne, then it asks for permission (to rise) and permission is given to it. Soon it will prostrate, but it will not be accepted from it, and it will ask for permission (to rise) but permission will not be given to it; it will be said to it: “Go back to where you came from.’ So it will rise from its place of setting, and that is what Allah, may He be glorified, refers to in the verse (interpretation of the meaning): “And the sun runs on its fixed course for a term (appointed). That is the Decree of the All-Mighty, the All-Knowing” [Yaa-Seen 36:38].

Abh is Hadith say sooraj ka ja kar permission manga aur phir mashriq say rise honay say yahi tasur milta heh kay sooraj Earth ko orbit karta heh. Joh dalail Ala Hazrat nay SST theory kay mutabiq samjay un ko ham BB kay mutabiq samajtay hen. Misaal kay tor par yeh ayaat, 36:38, upar walay Hadith kay mutabiq, orbit karnay kay baray mein heh, magar haqiqat mein yeh sooraj kay safar jis ki video mein nay post ki heh us kay baray mein heh. Abh yeh Hadith mein ghalti heh magar joh is Hadith ko istimal karay ga Quran feham kay leyeh, woh zeroor khata kha'ay ga. Mein Science kay mamulat mein Hadith ko nahin leta keun kay Ahadith joh Sahih Bukhari/Muslim ki hen un mein bi bot ghaltiyan hen.

Sayyidi Ala Hazrat ka ilm e sceinece apnay zamanay kay sceintistoon kay mutabiq thah aur ba-hasiyat e Aalim e Deen yeh ek behtreen martba heh. Yeh un ka science related ilm un kay zamanay kay sciencedanoon kay barabar thah. Joh sciencedan, two subject study kartay hen sari zindgi aur yahi un ka pesha, urna pechona thah, un kay madd e muqabil ek Aalim e deen jis ki masroofiat ka yeh alam heh kay kunz ul iman kay tarjumeh kay leyeh time nahin thah, 2/3 mint namaz kay leyeh anay janay mein joh fursut hoti us doraan tarjuma kunz ul iman pesh keeya.

Aur Sayyidi Ala Hazrat kay madd e muqabil thanvi, gangohi, jinnay wirasat taqseem karnay kay wastay maths/hisab ka ilm bi shahid ata huwa ho. Aalim ho kar unoon nay dunyawi uloom par bi uboor hasil keeya. Lamba kissa mukhtasir, Sayyidi Ala Hazrat alayhi rehma ki yeh khata ijtihadi heh.
Aur is khata ki bunyad woh Ahadith hen jin say yeh tassur milta heh kay sooraj zameen kay agay peecha chakkar khata heh. Aur zameen par joh khara heh, woh yahi dekhay ga kay sooraj zameen ko orbit kar raha heh.


 

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