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(ja) Rana Sahib.. Share Kerney Ka Buhut Shukriya..

 

Sunni Tehreek Waley Saleem Qadri Shaheed (aleh rahma) Key Aik Bayan Mein Suna Tha Key 1974/75 Mein Qadyaniyon Ko Jo Govt Ney Kafir Qarar Diya Us Mein Behs-o-Munazira Sunni Ulema Ney Kiya.. Qadyaniyon Ney Tahzeer-un-Nas Utha Ker Pesh Ki Tu Deobandiyon Ko Chamber Mein Jana Pera Key Baron Ney Yeh Ghalti Ker Di Hai.. Is Barey Mein Aap Key Pas Koi Tafseel Hai?

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us ney jhoot bola tum ney yaqeeen kar lia kis tumharey brelvi alim ney agey barh kar qadiyani logon k khilaf baat ki thi

hamarey alim to darhiyaan mundwatey phir rahey they

jhootey ho tum...

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us ney jhoot bola tum ney yaqeeen kar lia kis tumharey brelvi alim ney agey barh kar qadiyani logon k khilaf baat ki thi

hamarey alim to darhiyaan mundwatey phir rahey they

jhootey ho tum...

O "KALANK" Mind ur language.

Islamabad se record manga kar dekh, k "QAdiyaniyon k saath jo aakhri aur faisla kun munazira huwa tha, us men kis kis ne hissa liyya tha."

 

Un k naam hain.

 

1. Molana Abd-ul-Sattar Khan Niyazi Alaih Rehmat

2. Molana Shah Ahmed Noorani Siddiqui Alaih Rehmat

3. Molana Abd-ul-Mustafa Azhari Alaih Rehmat

 

Aur b buhat saaray naam hain

Jab teray molvi Fazlu k baap "MUFTI MEHMOOD" aur us k saathiyon ne qadiyaniyon k saath munazira kiya, to unihon ne jawaab men "Tahzeer-un-Naas" kitaab paish ki thi, aur "Mufti Mehmood" se koee jawaab nahin ban parra tha, aur wo aur us k saathi (Abhi naam yaad nahin aa rahay, dekh kar batadoonga) khamosh beth gaye thay.

 

Issi baat par Molana Shah Ahmed Noorani Alaih Rehmat ne uth kar garajidaar lahjay men kaha tha k "Jis ka ye aqeeeda ho ab aur "Nabi" aa sakta hai, ya Nabi aa gaya hai; Hamari nazar men donon kaafar hain."

 

Yahee haqeeqat hai

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diyobadiyat ki qadiyaniyat ke liye jo khidmaat hain un per zra nazer dalein, molana abdusstar khan niyazi aleh arrahma ke mutaliq jo jhoot aap ne ghad rakha hai , us ka jawab fqeer cumpose ker rha hai , aik do din main padh lena. khalil rana.

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seg e attar tum ney apni post ma sirf aik made up story batai ha

mujey pakka yaqeen ha

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Story Ka Tu Insha Allah (azw) Pata Dalail Key Sath Chal Jaye Ga.. Mager Kawa Jo Safaid Hai.. Yeh IM Key Tamam Members Jantey Hain..

 

Baqi Rahi Tumhari Post Ki Editing.. Tu Hamarey Apney Members Baaz Oqat Jazbati Ho Jatey Hain.. Is Liye Main

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First of ALL qadiyani loogon ki baat ka koi etbaat nai

dosri baat k tum un ki kitaboon par yaqeen rakho ma nai rakhta

kisi bhi kitab par

wo to quran ka bhi hawala dete hain mirza ki nabuwat sabit karney k liye

baqi yaar awain baat na banao kaouwa sufaid ha tumhara ho ga mera nai ha

tum logon k to murgey ki bhi aik hi tang hoti ha

or yaar kalil uncle truthfinder ney iss ka jawab dey dia ha itdunya par pehley hi qadiyani or deobandi ka

ap ney phir ye pages wahan or yahan paste kar k apney ap ko uncle dadu sabit karney ka saboot dey rahey ho

agar karna ha to

peer karam shah k tehzeer un nas par fatwa what ever you are talking about jo bhi ha wo paish karo

baki batoon ka jawab already dia ja chuka ha

or jahan tak baat mirza k janazey ma moulana abdul al kalam k janey ki ha to kia howa ma khud aik bari katter brelvi famliy ko janta hoon jin k pass mirza ki kitabain hain

or wo un sey mustafeed hotey hain wallah ma jhoot nai keh raha

baqi mujey pata ha k agar ma ney wo tumharey us alim ki tasveer post ki jo darhi munda kar bhaga tha to phir tum logon ney post edit kar deni ha lolz

yaar seg jazbati to hotey hi hain post edit nai karni chahiye thi

or story k barey ma mujey pakka yaqeen ha k made up ho gi

or batao k moulana sarwar ney kia qadiyani ki khidmaat sar anjam di hain

awain jo kitaab ma dekh lia us par sar dhar dia

or uper saaf likha howa ha k qadiyaniyoon ka mukhalif camp bana raha

or ye baat qadiyaniyoon ney logon ko phasaney k liye bhi likhi ho sakti ha

agar tum apni baat par sachey ho to Moulana sarwar k barey ma or detail do k unho ney kia kia keya tha

or last ma tum ney kitaab ka aik page post kar k ye sabit kar dia ha k tum loog

out of context hawaley bhi detey ho

puri story suna ni hi nai ha ta k awam ko asal baat ka pata hi na chaley

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(bis)

(salam) to all Muslims

 

(ma) Khalil Sahib aap nay buhat acha reply kiya hay.

 

ALLAH karay keh Malang ki samajh main kuch aa jaye..........Ameeeeeen

 

 

hehehe koi shak peda karney ki koshish nai ki

kitab k barey ma brelvi hazrat k barey peer

peer karam shah al zahri ney kaha ha k khatm e nabuwat k mozo par behtreen kitab ha

agar tum logon ko samajh nai ati to hamara kia qasoor

 

Mr Malnang aap kiun ghussay main aa kar behki behki baatain kar rahay hain.

 

aap kay Qasim nanotavi shaib tau woh khushqismat hasti hain keh jin par na siraf Ullma e AhleSunnat nay KUFr ka fatwa diyya hay balkeh aaj kay Ghair Muqalid molvion nay bhi fatwa e Kufr day hee diya hay. agar cheh inn kay akabireen uss ko kafir nahi kehtay thay.

 

Darulifta deobund kay muftion kay fatway ki kahani apnay hee molvi Amir Usmani Deobundi ki zubani parh lau. yeh deobundion kay Sheikhul islam Shabbir usmani ka bhateeja tha.

 

Deobundi Mufti ka Qasim Nanotavi par Fatwa e Kufr

 

abb bhai iss main Sunnion ka tau koi kasoor nahi hay na.............

 

 

 

 

Acha tau pehlay tau aap nay Peer Karam Shah Al-Azhari rehmatullah alaih kay baaray main jo kuch kaha uss ka jawab tau aap parh hee chukay hain

 

tau abb agar aap Sheikhul Islam Khwaja Qamr-ul-Din Sialvi rehmatullah alaih ki taraf kuch ghalat mansoob kar kay qasim nanotavi ki jaan churrwana chahin tau phir uss kay liye yeh parh lain

 

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Rana Sahib.. Buhut Hi Khoob... Malang Ko Tu Aap Ney Mazeed Malang Bana Diya... Mager Iski Daleel Wohi Miley Gi.. MAIN NA MANO... Kawa Safaid Hai.. Khana Jo Parta Hai..

 

Buhut Khoob Mujtaba Bhayi... Advance Mein Rad..

Malang .. Hamarey Members Tumharey Khair Khuwah Hain Key Yeh Apney Deobandi Molviyon Ki Just Baton Mein Na Aaye Aur Dalail Ko Maan Ley.. Abhi Bhi Apney Rawish Per Nazer-e-Saani Ker Lu.. Ya Hamarey Jawabat Ka Rad Ley Aao.. Ya Phir Maan Lu..

 

Waqayi Allah (azw) Jisey Chahey Tofeeq Dey Toba Ki Aur Jisey Chahey Us Key Dil Per Mohr Ker Dey.. Bey Shak Allah (azw) Bara Bey Nayaz Hai.. Hum Allah (azw) Sey Aafiyat Ka Suwal Talab Kertey Hain..

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Chalain yeh tau thay Sunnion Barailvion kay Barray Peer hazraat.

 

abb tamaam deobundi akabireen kay Peer janab Haji Imdad ullah Muhajir Makki rehmatullah alaih ka aqeeda bhi bata dain Tehzeer ul naas kay mutaliq

 

 

Yeh Maulana Anwar ullah sahib Haidarabadi ki book Anwar-e-Ahmedi kay pages hain. iss kitab ki tasdeeq aur taeed Haji Imdad ullah Muhajir Makki rehmatullah alaih nay ki hay aur book ki tareef bhi ki hay.

 

iss main qasim nanotavi kay Kahatamul Nabiyeen kay matlab main tehreef par garift kee gai hay hay.

 

 

 

pehlay Anwar-e-Ahmedi ka uss edition kay pages jis ki Talkhees o tehseel Maulana Arshadul Qadri sahib nay ki hay.

 

aur phir Anwar-e-Ahmedi kay puranay edition kay pages jis par Haji Imdad ullah Muhajir Makki rehmatullah alaih ki taqreez mojood hay.

 

 

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tau abb kaya khyaal hay Malang aap ka???

 

 

aap kay alfaz kuch changing kay saath aap ko hee wapis kar raha hoon

 

kitab(Anwar-e-Ahmedi) k barey ma Deobundi hazrat k Sub say barray Peer

 

Haji Imdad ullah Muhajir Makki rehmatullah alaih ney kaha ha keh

"Faqeer ki nazar say guzri aur Ba-Lisaan e Haq tarjuman Musanif Allama ki Awwal say Aakhir tak baghor sunni

 

tau Iss kitab kay har maslay ki tehqeeq muhaqiqaana Haqqani main ta'eede Rabbani paai gai.

 

keh iss ka aik aik jumla aur fiqra Imdad e Mazhab aur Mashrab AhleHaq kar raha hay aur Ahq ki tarf bulaata hay."

 

 

 

agar tum Deobundi logon ko samajh nahin aati to hamara kia qasoor

 

 

kitab k barey ma brelvi hazrat k barey peer

peer karam shah al zahri ney kaha ha k khatm e nabuwat k mozo par behtreen kitab ha

agar tum logon ko samajh nai ati to hamara kia qasoor

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Asalam U ALikum

kisi kitab k barey ma iss kisam ka khat likhney k liye us kitab ko achey tarikey sey parhna zarori ha

iss latter ko parhney sey pata chalta ha k janab ney bouhat achey tarikey sey kitab ka mutalia kia tha

agar brelvi hazrat ye kehtey hain k peer sahab ko dhoka dia gaya tha to

mere khayal sey phir peer sahab andhey they khud sey kitab nai parh saktey they kisi deobandi ney parh kar sunai thi

 

 

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Malang Tumharey Nazdeek Toba Ka Kiya Matlab Hai? Iska Jawab Zara Post Kero..

Mazeed Aik Bandah Pehlay Aik Cheez Ko Sahi Keh Deta Hai.. Baad Mein Usko Ghalat Kehta Hai.. Aur Akhri Waqt Tak Ghalat Kehney Per Sabit Qadam Rehta Hai Tu Tum Uski Taraf Sahi Kehney Ki Nisbat Kis Bunyad Per Ker Rahay Hoo?

 

Aur Ager Tumhein Toba Aur Rajoo Ka Matlab Samajh Nhin Aata.. Tu Pehlay Tum Islam Ki Yeh Bunyadi Chezein Ja Ker Seekho.. Yahan Munazira Section Mein Aaker Discussion Baad Mein Kerna..

 

Tumhein Is Baat Ka Tafseel Sey Jawab Diya Ja Chuka Hai Key Peer Sahib Ney Baad Mein Rajoo Ker Liya Tha Hata Key Tumharey Qasim-ul-Uloom Per Kufr Ka Fatwa Bhi Diya.. Aub Tum Is Baat Ko Ghalat Sabit Kero Tu Sahi... Werna Kisi Molvi Sey Rabita Kero Woh Tumhein Hamayati Khat Aur Baad Mein Kufr Key Fatway Ka Matlab Bataye Ga...

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yaar tum loogn ki baat ka kia etbaar tum to bandey k marney k bad bhi touba mana chapwa detey ho

 

 

janab e wala ye munazra section hai jo bhi baat hogi proof se hogi,, aap ko agar lagta hai k kisi brelwi ne kisi aalim ke marne ke baad us ki toba chapwaa di,, to proof do,, chalo agar chapwaa bhi di to kamaz kam us ke kisi qareebi saathi ne chapwai hogi,, ke marne se pehle hamare hazrat ye keh kar kalima parh kar gayee.. chalo jo bhi baat hai proof do..

kamaz kam ham tum se to behtar hi hain,, jhooti kitaabein to mansoob nahi karte,, tumhare hussain ahmed madni ne 5 kitabein farzi kahi,, ye pehla jhoot,, phir un ke musannifo ke naam diye ye doosra jhoot,, or phir un ka hawala safha no. diya ye total mila ke 5+5+5 =15 jhoot hogayee, agar tum kaho to wo 5 kitabo ke naam or un ke musannif ke naam likh doon,, chahe deoband ho kar ajao chahe bareli,, chahe saharan pur ya thana bhuwan,, ya kahi bhi,, tum wo kitabein chapna un musannifo ka likhna sabit kardo apne bare ke gale se ye phanda hata do,, jo abhi tak to koi deobandi aalim nahi kar sakaa,, or hussain ahmed madni ne Sayyedi Ala Hazrat ke walid e maaji Molana Naqi ali khan sahab ka bhi 1 jaali fatwa chapa hai apni kitab mein apni baat sabit karne ke liye magar fatwa dekho to molana Naqi Ali khan sb ki wafat ke 4 saal baad ki date likhi hui hai,,, CHORI PAKRI GAYEE TANDWI SAHAB KI..!!

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Azeem Bhayi.. Malang Key Post Kerdah Replies Ko Koi Check Ker Ley Tu Usay Aik Baat Ki Bhi Daleel Nhin Miley Gi.. Is Ney Gup Shup Banayi Hoyi Hai.. Dil Nhin Kerta Kisi Ko Ban Kerney Per.. Mager Iski Jahalat Ka Yahi Wahid Elaj Nazer Aaraha Hai... Dalail Sey Jo Baat Kerey Usay Is Forum Per Baat Kerney Ki Ijazat Hai..

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Asalam U ALikum

kisi kitab k barey ma iss kisam ka khat likhney k liye us kitab ko achey tarikey sey parhna zarori ha

iss latter ko parhney sey pata chalta ha k janab ney bouhat achey tarikey sey kitab ka mutalia kia tha

agar brelvi hazrat ye kehtey hain k peer sahab ko dhoka dia gaya tha to

mere khayal sey phir peer sahab andhey they khud sey kitab nai parh saktey they kisi deobandi ney parh kar sunai thi

 

malang tum kiun deobundiyyat ki matti paleed karnay par tullay huway ho. kuch tau deobundion ki jahaalat par parda rehnay dau

 

main nay aap kay deobundi akabreen kay Peer o Murshid HAJI IMDAD-ULLAH MUHAJIR MAKKI REHMATULLAH ALAIH kay hawalay say kuch pages post kiye thay jis main unhon nay Tehzeer-l-Naas kay radd ki ta'eed aur tauseeq post ki thi.

 

Kaya aap haji sahib ki taraf say koi tobba ya rujoo pasih kar saktay hain ya yeh hee sabit kar dain keh unn ko dhokka diyya gya tha???

 

aur Qasim nanotavi par tau deobundi muftion nay bhi fatwa kufr lagaaya tha , iss link par parh lau

 

 

Tau jab Qasim Nanotavi par Fatwa-e-Kufr main Sunni aur Deobundi Muftion ka ittefaq hay tau tum kiun larr rahay ho. Kam az kam ALLAH ka shukar karo keh kissi maslay main tau hum tumhain theek samjhtay hain

 

abb iss par tum kaya kaho gay

 

kissi IBARAT k barey main iss kisam ka FATWA likhney k liye us IBARAT ko achey tarikey sey parhna zarori ha

 

iss FATWAY ko parhney sey pata chalta ha k janab ney buhat achey tarikey sey IBARAT ka mutalia kia tha

 

agar DEOBUNDI hazrat ye kehtey hain k DEOBUNDI MUFTION ko dhoka dia gaya tha

 

tau mere khayal sey phir DEOBUNDI MUFTI andhay they THEEK sey IBARAT nai parh saktey they KEH APNAY HEE QASIM-UL-ULOOM O WAL KHAIRAT QASIM NANOTAVI KO KAFIR BANA DIYYA

 

 

Peer Karam Shah sahib ki taraf say tehzeerulnaas kay mutaliq apnay sabiqa muwaqif say rujoo unn ki zindagi main saabit hay aur aap kay Dr.Khalid Mehmood (PhD_Kizb) nay bhi iss ka aiteraf kiyya hay keh

"Aakhir kaar peer sahib nay bhi apna sabiqa muwaqif chorr kar DEOBUNDI HAZRAAT KO TAKFEER KA SADMA PUHANCHAAYA HAY"

 

abb tumhari iss baat ki kaya haysiyyat

 

yaar tum loogn ki baat ka kia etbaar tum to bandey k marney k bad bhi touba mana chapwa detey ho

 

Aik dafa phir parh lau peer sahib ka sabiqa muaqif say Deobundion ki takfeeer ka muaqif ikhtiar karnay ki tafseel

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Azeem Bhayi.. Malang Key Post Kerdah Replies Ko Koi Check Ker Ley Tu Usay Aik Baat Ki Bhi Daleel Nhin Miley Gi.. Is Ney Gup Shup Banayi Hoyi Hai.. Dil Nhin Kerta Kisi Ko Ban Kerney Per.. Mager Iski Jahalat Ka Yahi Wahid Elaj Nazer Aaraha Hai... Dalail Sey Jo Baat Kerey Usay Is Forum Per Baat Kerney Ki Ijazat Hai..

(salam) Sag-e-Attar Bhai Malang ko delete Na Karein Yeh Devi Vandana Walon Ka is Forum Pe Eklota Wakeel Hai...

Devband ke Wakeelon Se Ilm ki Ummeed Fuzool Hai

Jehel Inka Muqaddar Hai

Ab Yeh Khud Hi Apne Guru Ghantalon Se Pareshan Hai

Kiya Keh Gaye

Kiya Likh Gaye

Aur Kiya ker Gaye

Akhir yeh Unki Kin Kin Gumrah kun Ibaaraton Aur Kufriyaat Ka Defend Kare

Kiyon ke Devband k Molviyon K Kufriyaat To Isske Jehel Se Badhe Huye Hain

Malang Tum Mujhe Achchi Tarah Jante Ho

Yaad Karo Paltalk Ke (Darul-iftira-devband) Ke Nik ko Jiske Jawabat Dene Se Tum Aajiz Rahe

Aur Ulta Usse Apni List Se Aur Devbandi Defenders Se Block Ban Ker Diya

Khair Humne Request Ki Hai K Tumhare Saath Waisa Na Ho Jaisa Tumne Apne Khud Sakhta Dalda Chhap Mazhab Ka Defend na Ker Sakne Ki Soorat Me Mere Saath Kiya

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(azw)(ja) Mujtaba Bhayi.. But Malang.......

 

Aur Ulta Usse Apni List Se Aur Devbandi Defenders Se Block Ban Ker Diya

Khair Humne Request Ki Hai K Tumhare Saath Waisa Na Ho Jaisa Tumne Apne Khud Sakhta Dalda Chhap Mazhab Ka Defend na Ker Sakne Ki Soorat Me Mere Saath Kiya

 

Sirf Isi Wajah Sey Aub Tak Ban Nhin Kiya Key Yeh Phir Kahay Ga Meri Baat Ka Jawab Nhin Tha Is Liye Ban Ker Diya... Werna Deobandis Hazraat Ka Jo Operation Iski Badolat Howa.. Yeh Kisi Apney Deobandi Key Hath Mein Aagaya Tu Woh Iska Operation Ker Dey Ga... Aik Shair Yaad Agaya Iskey 1st Topic Per. Jis Mein Aalahazrat (ra) Per Aitarazat They...

 

Na Tum Yoon Gham Humein Detey .. Na Hum Faryaad Yoon Kertey

Na Khultey Raaz Sir Basta .. Na Yoon Ruswaiyaan Hoteen

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yani k wo hi baat ho gaye k jab us ney dekha k iss kitab ki tareef karney par mere pey bhi kuffar ka fatawa lagey ga

us ney us kitaab k khilaf baat kar di

agar mugalta dia gaya tha usey to bari hairat ki baat ha k us ney khud kitaab parhey bina hi esa latter likh dia

khair jab tak ma asal kitab khud sey na dekh lon tum jhotey logon ki baat par yaqeen karna mushkil ha

or aik baat k kia pata tum logon ney us k marney k bad esi kitab likh dali ho

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(salam) Sag-e-Attar Bhai Malang ko delete Na Karein Yeh Devi Vandana Walon Ka is Forum Pe Eklota Wakeel Hai...

Devband ke Wakeelon Se Ilm ki Ummeed Fuzool Hai

Jehel Inka Muqaddar Hai

Ab Yeh Khud Hi Apne Guru Ghantalon Se Pareshan Hai

Kiya Keh Gaye

Kiya Likh Gaye

Aur Kiya ker Gaye

Akhir yeh Unki Kin Kin Gumrah kun Ibaaraton Aur Kufriyaat Ka Defend Kare

Kiyon ke Devband k Molviyon K Kufriyaat To Isske Jehel Se Badhe Huye Hain

Malang Tum Mujhe Achchi Tarah Jante Ho

Yaad Karo Paltalk Ke (Darul-iftira-devband) Ke Nik ko Jiske Jawabat Dene Se Tum Aajiz Rahe

Aur Ulta Usse Apni List Se Aur Devbandi Defenders Se Block Ban Ker Diya

Khair Humne Request Ki Hai K Tumhare Saath Waisa Na Ho Jaisa Tumne Apne Khud Sakhta Dalda Chhap Mazhab Ka Defend na Ker Sakne Ki Soorat Me Mere Saath Kiya

:lol: agar ma tum ney pal talk par mere sath baat ki ha to achi tarha jantey ho gey k

abi tak koi esa nai aya jis ki batoon k ma ney jawabaat na diye hon

han agar kisi or room ma baat hoi to dosrey rooms ma may baat nai karta

or agar mujey jawab na ata ho to saaf keh deta hon k iss barey ma pata nai

 

 

yahan to ma wese hi dekhney ata hon k tum logon k pass kehney ko kia kia rakha ha

warna yahan hey kia

Edited by Mujtaba
Malnag shaiib zara tameez say baata karain. agar jawab nahi aata tau phir apna munh band hee rakhain

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