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Jab Ahlesunnat ke dalil deni ki koshish ki jarahi tu Imam Shafai ka aik farman bhi hosol e barkat ke liye paish karne ki sa"adat hasil karta hoon "Al Shee atu Nisa ul ummati" Sheea Is Ummat Ki Aurtee Hain :D Haan Ab Ayen Medan Ki Taraf.......... :)

...ahle tashee hazraat nay jo hawale dye hen un main matam nooha girya, mirsiya majlis main se kisi par faraq nahi gya ...aap pahle yeh taih karlain aap sabit kya karna chahta hen phir dlale dain ...! :D

naiz yeh in main se kisi main bhi istimrari hukum ya amar sabit nahi hai... keh inhonay hukum dya hoo qayamat tak tum matam kartay rahe zanjeer zani karte rahoo khud ko peeto Rent par bandoo ko hamari yad main petate rahoo nooha karoo waweela karoo kapre pharoo .. aur aap tu kai saloo say kartay ayee hoo..jab ke quran main agar namaz wa rozay ka hukum hai tu istimrar wa amar ka seega aya hai...

.. rahi baat shahed ke ahkam murdo walay hote hen tu yeh baat tu ap ke zehan main hogi shahed ko gusal ham tu nahi detay ? ap ka kahna hai ke shahed ki kun tadfeen di jati hai wirasat taqseem kun hoti hai tu janab phir tu ap par aik aur aitraz hona chye , keh shahed ko bhi tu is dunya main bhi hona chahye takeh hum inhain murdo ki tarah tadfeen na karain... ;)?

aur rahi bat aap ke farsooda sawalt ki tu janab jab ham matam ko manainge tu hi yeh bhi man lainge keh murda ka matam karna theek hai .. matlab tu yehi howa zinda ka matam durust he ...jesa ke aap nay sabit kya :D

... ab ajyen aap ke aitrazat ki tarf pahli baat tu yeh he keh kisi bhi maslak par hawalay denay hoon tu scan book aur phir us halway jat ki aap ko hamarai mautbar kutub sahih bukhari se aur phir asmae rijal se sabit karna chahye keh jo aap kam karrhe hen yeh hamare nazdek riwayatan diraytan, sahi hai ... is tarah aap ki hujjat qawi hoti ..

khair aap ka qasoor nahi hai aap ko jo hawala jaat mile hen sanwi kutub se hen tu aap yehi paish karainge lihaza yeh us tarah ki hujjat tu nahi howa jo aap samjh rahe hen ya samjhana ya sabit karna chahte hen...jab ke aap tu apni muatbar kutub osol e kafi ke hawale thukradete hen ham tu phir bhi in sanvi kitaboo ke bhi jawbat dete hen ..

aap yeh baat sabit karsakte hen ke hum nay namaz ka hukum in sanvi kutub se mana hai ? nahi aap yeh bhi sabit nahi karsakte na keh matam ki hurmat ka huukum hum ne in kutub se mana hai? tu hum aap ke liye savnwi kutub ko awalen kutub par tarjeeh kun denge?

khair jawabat phir bhi hazir hen.....

hazrat usman ke wisal main jin aurtoo ka petne ka zikar hai un ka ahwal majhool hai yani yeh nahi bataya gya kaun hai ? kunke aurto ka lafz aya aur in main sirf betiyan aur bewyon ka ziker bataya hai baqi ka nahi ... baqi hazrat usman ki aurten kab tak peetti rahin is ki had bhi muqarar farmadain ..? aurtoo nay peeta yeh aik majhol bat hai

aap aur jab ke matam aik maroof (yani jana pahcna kam hai) aap majhool say aik maroof shai sabit karrhe hen kya yeh aap ki mantqi ke lihaz se sahi hai ? balke agar aisa hai tu ap apni hi kutub se sabit karain keh maroof shai ko majhol se sabit karna jaiz hai degar alfaz main - say + sabit karna :D

 

..aik aur nukta is main yeh hai keh aap ne is ibarat ko gaur say parha nahi warna is ko dalel dene ke liye ageh paish na kartay yeh tu hazrat usman ke shahed honay ke iraday par halat riqqat tari honay ki wajah say howa tu kya us waqt ap ki zauja wa betyan khushi khushi ya baghair kisi afsos ke aap ko shahed hota dekhti ? aur yehi sorat e hal huzoor ke wisal ke waqt hazrat aisha wale waqiya par aati hai.. lakin is ke baad ka aisa koi waqiya nahi keh hazrat aisha huzoor ki yad main har saal khud ko peetti rahi .. aur yehi hazrat fatima apne wisal tak isi tarah peetti rahi hoon .

yeh sirf wisal keh waqt ka muamla thha ..aur waqti taur par aisi kafiyat hogai thhi keh huzoor ka wisal koi mamooli gham na thha...aur yehi kafiyat hazrat bilal ke sath bhi thhi.. naiz yeh sab waqiyat ISHQ par dalalat karre hen .. aur yeh kafiyat bhi waqti thhi lakin baad main aisi sorate hal nahi milti... aur in sab ke waqye main aisi hi kafiyat ka zikar hai ..

 

aap kafiyat e jazb ke baray main apni kutub aur hamari kutub say wazahat kardain aisi kafiyat main shariyat ka qalam uth jata hai ya nahi ? aisi kafiyat main matam tu door ki baat hai :D

 

hum nafse gham ko mana nahi kartay ... hum tu us sorat e hal ka mana kartay hain jis ko aap matam kahte hen .. matam karne ki hadith pak main wazih mumaniat he..

jis ki ham ne wazahat kardi he...

 

... Allama ibne hajr ka hawala dya hai us main peetne ka zikar nahi hai.. aur rona tu kai tarah ka hota hai maslan koi yad ajaye gham main be ikhtyar ansoo bahain ... aur isse aik baat aur sabit hogai aap ki zauja nay tu had bhi muqarar farmadi keh aik saal aur aap :D

... yeh sab waqyat faili hain in main se koi bhi quoli nahi hai aur fail qoul par hujjat nahi hota ?... kunke is main ahtamalat hote hen..aur qoul main bhi wo mana jayega jo wazih hoo keh amr wa istiqrar wa istimrar ka hukum hadith main aya ho keh tum yeh matam jaza faza karte rahoo ...

.. naiz zanjeer zani ka bhi in main se kahin saboot nahi hai... :D

khair yeh tu tamheed thhi baqi aghaaz tu chishti sb kardainge..

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sab se pehli bat ye hei k aap ko ham daleel dy b dein tuaap ne man'na nahe hei

aap ne quran me para he hoga

tarjma

AY MUHAMAD SAW HAM NE IN K DILO PAR MOHRY LAGA DI HEIN JIS NE MAN'NA HOWA WO 1 AYAT SUN KAR MAN JAYE GA JIS NE NA MAN'NA HOWA US KO PORA QURAN B SUNA DO WO NAHE MANY GY

aur quran ham muslimano k leye hei kafro k leye nahe hei aur tmara b hisam isi tara ka hei kuch dosra ager ham aap ko apki books se sabit karty hei tu aap ko man'na pary ga ager aap hamri books se sabit kar dein k matam karna gunah hei haram hei zanjeer zani haram hei tu ham pory shia matm karna aur zanjeer zani karna choor dy gy

baqi matam ka ref deta hon aur zanjeer zani ka b

 

ager aap yeh keh rahay hein kay Matam is haram tou aap goya yeh kehrahay hein kay Rasool Allah nein haraam kaam kiya

Bibi Um-e-Salama (Wife of Rasool Allah) - see sunan-e-Ibn-Maja (one of Saha Sitta)

tou Rasool Allah nein Bibi sey kaha kay unn ko aaram karna hai koiee bhee aajaiy tou waapis kardein tu jab imam e hussain as aye tu bibi ne roka tu imam hussain andar jany waly thay

tu un ka paon pisal gia tu hazoor saw ne bibi se kaha k tum ne mere HUSSAIN as ko q roka hei tu bibi ne farmaya aap ne khud farmaya tha k kisi ko andar na any dein hazoor saw ne farmaya mene tum se ye kaha tha k kisi ko nahe any dena kisi ko mean kisi ko aur hussain mera apna hei hussain muj se hei aur me hussain se hon aur aap jis tim imam hussain ka pao phisla tu aap door kar aye aur othaya aur ghamzada ho gy is se sabit howa k imam hussain as k mamly me saber nahe farmaty thay

aap log kehty ho na k saber kar lia karo is ki daleel ho gai hei

sunan ibne maja aap ki maya nas book hei baqi

 

 

is se bari daleel kia hogi ager pher b na mano tu tum musliman he nahe q k nabi saw ki 1 hadees na man'ne wala jahnmi hei kafir hei

 

Hazrat Abbas R.A ki Zoja ka beyan hai k ek din main Rasool (SAWW) ki khidmat main hazir hoi

aur Hussain A.S ko Rasool (SAWW) ki god main de diya aur zara si dair k liye kahi aur

mutwajo ho gayi,is k bad dekha

k Rasool (SAWW) ki ankhon main ansoo jari hain,meray dareyaft karnay pe irshad farmaya

Jibrael A.S meray pass aye thay aur mujhe ye khabar di k meri ummat meray is farzand ko qatal

kar de ge,main ne poocha is farzand ko to kaha han.

 

mashkat shareef vol 2 page 442 hadees # 5888

 

rasool saw khud roye shahdat se pehly imam ki socho ager ye hal tha shahdat se pehly tu baad me kia hota matam na karty wo NABI SAW jo apny pyary k 1 girny par ghamzada ho jayen

tu kia wo ye tamam waqya bardasht kar paty

 

 

Sabb sey pehla girya Hazrat Aadam kA

 

Hadhrath Adam was so distressed that he smashed his hands onto his knees and the skin from

his hands caused gashes from which bone could be seen.

hazrat yaqoob usaf a.s par roye ( beshak un ko maloom tha k usaf thek thak hein lekn pher b roye q k anbya sa k pas ghaib ka ilm hei)

suraye maida ayat no 83

phir Hazrat Ibrahim ka

phir Hazrat Younus ka Hazrat Yousuf lay liay

see sura-e-Ibrahim and Sura-e-Yousuf

Girya means - girya-o-zari, rona aur matam karna

tou pehli baat yahan yeh pata chal rahi hai kay matam Anbeeyah ki sunnat hai

 

phir Um-e-Salama sey riwayat kay Rasool Allah (sw) nein Imam Hussain per girya kiya jab Hazrat Jibraieel Allah ka paigham laiay kay Imam Hussain 3 din kay bhookay pyasay, be-jurm-o-khata shaheed kiaya jaingay

 

Hazrat Abu Talib aur Hazrat Khateeja ka jis saal wisaal hua, wou pura saal gham raha aur girya hua

 

Hazrat Owais Qarni nein apnay do daant shaheed kiay Uhad kay Waqiey mein

 

mere bhai Tareekh hai tareekh, parho tu pata chalay, aietiraaz pehlay aajata hai

 

matam quran me

 

IBRAHEEM ki BEWA SAARA chillati houye in k samny aaye or apna mou (face) peetny lagi..

 

 

Suraah e ZARIYAT

AAYAT num 28

26 aur 27 b par lena ok

 

 

"Rasulullah (s) was in a state where he was hitting his chest."

 

(BoOK al bidaeya wal nehaeya ibn-e-kaseer vol 7 page 188)

 

 

(BOOK tareekh-e-tibri vol 6 page 302)

 

"When Ayesha was defeated and Ali saw the corpses on the

ground he began to beat his thighs"

 

(BOOK Saheeh al Bukharee Volume 2 page 50)

 

(mota imam malik)

 

 

(BOOK Taufa Ithna Ashari page 523 published in Karachi)

 

 

"When Umar received news of the death of Numan ibn Muqran he placed his hand on his head

and wailed 'O family of Numan!'

 

 

 

(BOOK Ahl'ul Sunnah's authority work Aqd al Fareed Volume 2 page 5)

 

 

hazrat usman ki shahdat

 

 

JAB HAZRAT USMAN QATAL HOWE TU QATIL KI KHABAR GHAR POHNCHI UN KI BIVI (NAHELA)

BETHI THE LOGO NE KAHA AYE BIBI G LOOT E GY AP K SHOHAR HAZRAT USMAN MARAY GY

KHALIFA TUL MUSLEMEEN QATIL HO GY BIBI MUHABBAT MEI OTH KAR PAS SE 1 DANDA (MONGLI)

OTHA KAR APNAY SIR ME MARA AUR JAGA PAR HE MAR GAI

(IMAN JAGAO MUSLIMANO)

 

(BOOK TAJUL AROOS JILD NO 10 PAGE NO 742 MATBOHA MISER

RIGHT SID OF THE PAGE LIN NO 6)

 

(ALM'NAL WAL NEHAL PAGE NO 144)

 

al bidaeya wal nehaeya ibn-e-kaseer vol 7 page 188

 

jang e ohad ka matam

 

Jung-e-Ohad k bad jab Hazrat Hamza k jism madina laya geya aur baqi Shaheedo ka to har koi

apnay azeez ko ro raha tha aur Rasool (SAWW) Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass akelay kharay thay

inocent boy left this room.

 

Rasool (SAWW) ne ek sada buland ki asman ki taraf Mou kar k,Ay Allah aj meray hamza ko

ronay wala koi bi nahi

 

ye baat Sahaba ne sun lo aur sab ko kaha k chalo pehle Rasool (SAWW) k chacha ka gham kar

lain

 

ab ghor se suno janab

 

aurtain Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass aur mard ghar k bahir kharay ho gaye aur matam

shuru kar diya

 

phER Rasool (SAWW) ne kaha k main tum se razi hon

 

(Seerat-u-Nabi (SAWW) Vol 1 page 146)

 

hazrat bilal ka matam

 

 

NABI SWA KO BUKHAR HOWA TU HAZRAT BILAL HABSHI RA KO PATA LAGA TU WO DEKHNAY K LEYE AP SWA K GHAR ME AYE BILAL RA NE AP KI NAZAK TABYAT DEKH KAR AP K CHEHRA MUBARAK KI TLAWAT KI AUR PHER MONH PAR MATAM KIA BIBI AYSHA PASS KHARI THE INHO NE KAHA YA RASOOL ALLAH SAW YE KIA KAR RAHE HEI IN KO ROKO TU AP SWA NE FARMAYA KHAMOSH YE IZHAR E MUHABBAT KAR RAHA HEI

 

(BOOK ALMANAL WAL NEHAL PAGE NO 198)

 

bibi aysha ka matm again

 

 

 

BIBI AYSHA NE FARMAYA JAB HAZOOR SWA DUNYA SE PARDA FARMA GY TAB AP SWA KA SIR MERI

JHOLI ME THA 3 DAFA HELAYA NAHE HELE 3 DAFA BOLAYA NAHE BOLAY TAB MUJE YAQEEN HO GYA

K NABI SWA DUNYA SE HALAY GY BIBI AYSHA NE FARMAYA MUHABAT E RASOOL SWA MEI AA KAR

SIR JHOLI SE HATA KAR MENE SIR PAR B MATAM KIA RAANA PAR B MATAM KIA.

 

(BOOK AL MADAHEB WAN NEHAYAT PAG NO 252 MATBOHA MISER RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE LIN NO 16)

 

ab b na mano tu aap par lanat hei aur me us ko musliman he nahe samjta jo in hadeeso ko na many

 

ashaba ka matam namaz k duran

 

1 ashabi ne chenk mari or tmam ashaba ghore or petna shero kar diya

 

sunan abi daud vol 1 page 244

 

sunan nisayi vol 3 page 16

 

ye lo aik aur bara ref

pher b na mano tu lanat

 

[ ye aap par lena munazra howa tha kuch}

{in me kuch nosri hei ignor him only haqer and hazrat umer par dihan dina baqi ko chor do ignor other people}

 

{] HAZRAT UMER RA: ahqar bhai aap 1 pori hadees likho pher us k neche refrence dy do plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[04:03:31] Ahqar: ap ne misum bhai ki baat nahi pehi pehle

[04:03:45] HAZRAT UMER RA: pari the yad nahe hei

[04:03:50] Ahqar: k

[04:03:57] Ahqar: main mic pe bolta hon

[04:04:03] Ahqar: ap k pass speakers to hain na

[04:04:08] HAZRAT UMER RA: pher muje yad nahe rahe gi

[04:04:31] Ahqar: k

[04:05:29] Ahqar: Jung-e-Ohad k bad jab Hazrat Hamza k jism madina laya geya aur baqi Shaheedo ka to har koi apnay azeez ko ro raha tha aur Rasool (SAWW) Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass akelay kharay thay

[04:05:55] Ahqar: Rasool (SAWW) ne ek sada buland ki asman ki taraf Mou kar k,Ay Allah aj meray hamza ko ronay wala koi bi nahi

[04:06:20] Ahqar: ye baat Sahaba ne sun lo aur sab ko kaha k chalo pehle Rasool (SAWW) k chacha ka gham kar lain

[04:06:24] Ahqar: ab ghor se suno janab

[04:06:51] Ahqar: aurtain Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass aur mard ghar k bahir kharay ho gaye aur matam shuru kar diya

[04:07:04] Ahqar: phri Rasool (SAWW) ne kaha k main tum se razi hon

[04:07:18] Ahqar: Seerat-u-Nabi (SAWW) Vol 1 page 146

[04:07:59] Ahqar: note kar lo

[04:08:11] HAZRAT UMER RA: kar li thnx

[04:08:15] Ahqar: k

[04:09:09] HAZRAT UMER RA: akser hamara sawal ye he hota hei imam e hussain tu boat pehle shaheed ho chuke or un ka gham aaj q mnaya jata hei 1 daa boat hota hei

[04:09:31] HAZRAT UMER RA: 1dafa

[04:09:58] Ahqar: jis saal Hazrat Khadija S.A aur Hazrat Abu Talib A.S ki rehlat hoi Rasool (SAWW) ne us pooray saal ko gham ka saal qarar diya

[04:10:04] Ahqar: is ka jawab hai ap k pass?

[04:10:16] Ahqar: Eid har saal kyun a jati hai

[04:10:32] Ahqar: Milad har saal kyun a jata hai

[04:10:57] Ahqar: inho sawaloo main ap ka jawab hai

[04:11:05] HAZRAT UMER RA: g wo us he sal howa tha na mere sawal ko pre na aap

[04:11:15] HAZRAT UMER RA: bad mei tu nahe kiya na gham

[04:11:28] HAZRAT UMER RA: 1400 so sal ho gy hei gham mnaya ja raha hei

[04:11:31] Ahqar: Nabi ne jo kam ek bar bi kiya wo Sunnat hai

[04:11:35] Ahqar: kya ye baat nahi mantay ao

[04:11:37] Ahqar: ap*

[04:12:00] HAZRAT UMER RA: g ye manta ho

[04:12:05] Ahqar: is k ilawa agar mana kiya ho phir bi kuc baat ho

[04:12:22] Ahqar: lakin Hazrat Hamza R.A ka gham ya zulm itna nahi jitna Imam Hussain A.S ka hai

[04:13:27] HAZRAT UMER RA: iamam e HUSSAIN RA ko shahed howe 1400 sal ho gy hei

[04:13:37] Ahqar: ji bilkul

[04:13:38] HAZRAT UMER RA: lekn aaj gham q mnaya jata hei

[04:13:52] Ahqar: ye ehtejaj hai us zulm k khilaf

[04:13:55] HAZRAT UMER RA: wo kon sa her sal mnate thay gham

[04:14:37] Ahqar: Nabi ne jo kam ek bar kiya agar koi muslim us pe iqtefa nahi karta to hum Nabi se ziada kisi ki daleel nahi de saktay

[04:14:41] HAZRAT UMER RA: jinho ne mara tha wo b dafa ho gy jo shaheed ho gy

[04:14:42] Ahqar: Nabi ne Hajj ek kiya

[04:14:53] Ahqar: aj kal log har saal hajj kartay hain lakin gunnah nahi hota

[04:14:54] HAZRAT UMER RA: ab kaisa ehtjaj

[04:14:59] Ahqar: Al Hajj ban jatay hain

[04:15:15] HAZRAT UMER RA: nabi ne haj 1 kiya hei

[04:15:27] Ahqar: aj bi kuch muslim un ko mantay hain jinhoo ne shaheed kiya

[04:15:33] HAZRAT UMER RA: nabi ne kitne kiye hei haj

[04:15:35] Ahqar: ji 1 kiya hai

[04:15:39] Ahqar: 1

[04:16:06] HAZRAT UMER RA: ALI RA NE kitne keye tha

[04:16:10] HAZRAT UMER RA: thay

[04:16:15] Ahqar: 1 se ziada

[04:16:23] HAZRAT UMER RA: kitne

[04:16:36] Ahqar: sure nahi hai mujhe is liye main ghalat nahi bata sakta

[04:16:36] HAZRAT UMER RA: 1 se ziada he keye thay

[04:16:43] Ahqar: 3 ya 5

[04:16:52] HAZRAT UMER RA: 25 keye thay

[04:17:07] Ahqar: ye ap ne kis tareekh main parha hai

[04:17:24] HAZRAT UMER RA: 15 hazoor k sath i think

[04:17:34] Ahqar: shahbash

[04:17:37] Ali_110: {HAZRAT UMER RA} khud har mahiine 11ween manao wo kher hay

[04:17:39] Ahqar: v gd

[04:17:50] Ali_110: hum saal main aik baar muharam kiya kar lain

[04:17:53] Ahqar: Nabi ne 15 hajj kar liye

[04:17:54] Ahqar: lolz

[04:17:56] Ali_110: qiyamat aajati hay:D

[04:17:57] Ahqar: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahhha

[04:18:07] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap ki book hei muje shia dost ne d the

[04:18:12] HAZRAT UMER RA: book copy the

[04:18:14] Ahqar: nam batao zara

[04:18:21] Ahqar: nabi k hajj main to koi ikhtelaf hi nahi

[04:18:35] Ahqar: har muslim janta hai k ek hajj kiya tha

[04:18:56] HAZRAT UMER RA: name nahe likha tha lekn wo red color tha us ka name nahe likha tha photo copy ki tara pages thay

[04:19:04] Ahqar: copy yani k kisi 10 rupay wali copy pe likha howa tha

[04:19:20] HAZRAT UMER RA: pory rigister tha

[04:19:21] Ahqar: behar hal ye ap ko ghalat fehmi hoi hai

[04:19:25] HAZRAT UMER RA: pora

[04:19:34] Ahqar: ye ghalat hai

[04:19:38] HAZRAT UMER RA: 14 masoom ki kahani the life story

[04:19:39] Ahqar: shia sunni is baat pe mutafiq hain

[04:19:43] Ahqar: k Nabi ne 1 hajj kiya hai

[04:20:11] Ahqar: wo jab milay ge to bata dain pehle jo topic hai us pe wapis a jao

[04:20:16] HAZRAT UMER RA: is ka matlib muje kitab ghalt d gai hei man gya wa

[04:20:26] HAZRAT UMER RA: gg

[04:20:35] Ahqar: ap ne bataya k kitab kisi ne di aur usay shai bi keh diya

[04:20:39] Ahqar: aur hum man jaye

[04:20:44] Ahqar: bacha samaj rakha hai

[04:20:47] HAZRAT UMER RA: mera dost hei

[04:20:57] Ahqar: kan se roti nahi khatay hum jani

[04:20:58] HAZRAT UMER RA: qsm se yara

[04:21:06] Ahqar: us se book ka nam pooch laina

[04:21:09] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap se jhot bolo ga

[04:21:13] HAZRAT UMER RA: ok

[04:21:17] Ahqar: kyun k aj tak islam ki kisi book main ye nahi likha geya

[04:21:46] HAZRAT UMER RA: pher us ne khud likha ho ga

[04:21:52] Ahqar: wo jo bi hai

[04:21:57] Ahqar: abi topic pe wapis a jao

[04:22:10] Ahqar: matam ko ghalat sabit karo Quran ki ayat ya Hadees se

[04:22:22] misum moosavi: haan baat ko mukammal karo

[04:22:23] misum moosavi: pehle

[04:22:49] HAZRAT UMER RA: quran mei hei k zinda par matam haram hei

[04:22:57] Ahqar: ji beshak

[04:23:12] HAZRAT UMER RA: or shaheed zinda hote hei

[04:23:16] Ahqar: beshak

[04:23:52] HAZRAT UMER RA: or HUSSAIN RA shaheed howe thay

[04:23:57] Ahqar: bilkul

[04:24:05] HAZRAT UMER RA: un par matam q

[04:24:13] HAZRAT UMER RA: haram howa na pher

[04:24:13] Ahqar: un par kon matam karta hai

[04:24:26] Ahqar: hum to zulm k khilaf jo un pe howa us pe matam kartay hain

[04:24:42] HAZRAT UMER RA: lol

[04:24:44] Ahqar: hamain to fakhar hai k hamara Imam Shaheedo ka Sardar hai

[04:24:54] HAZRAT UMER RA: beshak

[04:24:57] Ahqar: un ki mazlomiyat pe

[04:25:16] HAZRAT UMER RA: aaap matam karte ho tu hay hussain hay hussain kehte ho

[04:25:29] Ahqar: ji bilkul

[04:25:40] HAZRAT UMER RA: ye un par he matam howa na

[04:25:53] Ahqar: un ki mazloomiyat pe hai

[04:25:57] Ahqar: k un ka kya gunnah tha

[04:26:11] Ahqar: kis waja se un pe zulm kiya geya

[04:26:14] Ahqar: ummat kaha thi us waqt

[04:26:27] Ahqar: Rasool (SAWW) ka ghar akela reh geya tha Deen ko bachanay k liye

[04:26:39] HAZRAT UMER RA: acha

[04:27:29] HAZRAT UMER RA: lejn ye nachne wala matam kis jaga kia gya hei

[04:27:34] HAZRAT UMER RA: dhool k sath

[04:27:53] Ahqar: jo iran main hota hai?

[04:28:06] HAZRAT UMER RA: wo khushi mnate hei

[04:28:14] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap ghami mnate ho

[04:28:15] Ahqar: ji nahi

[04:28:26] HAZRAT UMER RA: matam karte hei

[04:28:31] HAZRAT UMER RA: lol

[04:28:39] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap mzakh kar rahe ho

[04:28:42] Ahqar: jab karbala main Rasool (SAWW) k ghar ki aurtoo ko qaid kar liya geya aur be parda kar diya geya tab zalimoo ne dhol bajaye

[04:28:56] HAZRAT UMER RA: shia room k user dekho

[04:29:01] Ahqar: aj wo sama paida kiya jata hai

[04:29:04] HAZRAT UMER RA: o shit

[04:29:19] inocent boy: kiunnnn?

[04:29:44] HAZRAT UMER RA: acha

[04:29:51] HAZRAT UMER RA: tu aap yaha q nahe karte

[04:30:02] Ahqar: culture ki baat hai

[04:30:08] HAZRAT UMER RA: lolz

[04:30:10] Ahqar: saudia walay kapray ap yaha kyun nahi pehantay

[04:30:18] HAZRAT UMER RA: yar cultuer kaha

[04:30:20] HAZRAT UMER RA: ka

[04:30:23] Ahqar: ramzan main waisa intezam yaha kyun nahi kartay

[04:30:39] HAZRAT UMER RA: jab zulm 1 jesa howa pher cultuer kaisa

[04:30:56] Ahqar: islam ek jaisa aya phir kaproo ka farq kaisa?

[04:31:13] HAZRAT UMER RA: islam mei kapre kaha hei

[04:31:26] Ahqar: culture hai na pakistan ka

[04:31:26] HAZRAT UMER RA: mnah hei

[04:31:30] Ahqar: saudia ka alag

[04:31:32] Ahqar: iran ka alag

[04:31:35] Ahqar: misar ka alag

[04:31:37] HAZRAT UMER RA: cultur ko choro na

[04:31:44] Ahqar: aur gham karnay ka har insaan ka apna tareeka hota hai

[04:31:57] HAZRAT UMER RA: islam mei kapre kha mnah hei

[04:32:18] Ahqar: mana nahi lakin main wo hi bata raha hon k saudia wala culture yaha kyun nahi

[04:32:29] Ahqar: islam ne culture k khilaf kabhi kuch nahi kaha

[04:32:30] inocent boy: what islam to itna pak mzhab hai usme kapre nhi ??/

[04:32:39] Ahqar: lolz

[04:33:09] HAZRAT UMER RA: u r waqya he incorect

[04:33:20] HAZRAT UMER RA: ok

[04:33:24] HAZRAT UMER RA: topic

[04:33:30] Ahqar: yh

[04:33:34] Ali_110: :)

[04:34:58] HAZRAT UMER RA: IMAM E HUSSAIN ra par kis ashab nematam kia ya likha hei kahe hadees mei ya quran mei

[04:35:23] Ahqar: ap k liye meyar kya hai

[04:35:23] Ali_110: {HAZRAT UMER RA} aaho:)

[04:35:28] Ahqar: Rasool ya ashab

[04:35:46] HAZRAT UMER RA: RASOOL NE MATAM NAHE KIA

[04:35:50] Ali_110: {Ahqar} inka rasool to aam aadmi tha

[04:35:58] Ali_110: un se achy to sahaba thy :P

[04:35:59] HAZRAT UMER RA: IMAM E HUSSAIN ra par

[04:36:02] Ahqar: Rasool ne to phir azan bi nahi di

[04:36:16] Ali_110: jin ki shariyat pakad li hay inhon ne

[04:36:17] HAZRAT UMER RA: ali kin se

[04:36:27] Ali_110: or Rasool saww ki shariyat chorh di hay

[04:36:37] HAZRAT UMER RA: ali aap khamosh raho plz}

 

kuch atech kar raha hon follow him

 

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umeed hei is k bad koi sawal nahe hoga ager koi sacha musliman howa tu aik b hadees ki nafarmani nahe kary ga shukrya

 

NOTE :- ISLAM ME KOI ZOOR ZABAR DASTI NAHE HEI AUR HAMARI ITNI HIMAT NAHE K AAP KO SHIA KAR SAKY APNY ZOOR PAR AUR NA HE HM CHAHTY HEI K AAP SHIA HO JAYE

HAM SIRF YE CHAHTY HEI K KAM SE KAM AAP MATAM AUR ZANJEER ZANI NAHE KARTY TU HAM SHIA KO B MAT ROKY OK

DOSRI BAT JO ME KEHNY WALA HON WO YE HEI K AGER IS ME KOI GHALTI HOI HEI TU MAF KEJYE GA ALFAZ WAGHERA ME SHUKRYA

BAQI SAB NE APNI APNI QABER ME JANA HEI

AUR MUJE ITNI UMEED HEI K AAP KA AGLA SWAL KOI NAHE HO GA IN HADESO KO PAR KAR YA AAP MATM KARNA MAAN JAO YA PHER APNI IN BOOKS KO PHAR DO SHUKRYA

 

 

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sab se pehli bat ye hei k aap ko ham daleel dy b dein tuaap ne man'na nahe hei

aap ne quran me para he hoga

tarjma

AY MUHAMAD SAW HAM NE IN K DILO PAR MOHRY LAGA DI HEIN JIS NE MAN'NA HOWA WO 1 AYAT SUN KAR MAN JAYE GA JIS NE NA MAN'NA HOWA US KO PORA QURAN B SUNA DO WO NAHE MANY GY

aur quran ham muslimano k leye hei kafro k leye nahe hei aur tmara b hisam isi tara ka hei kuch dosra ager ham aap ko apki books se sabit karty hei tu aap ko man'na pary ga ager aap hamri books se sabit kar dein k matam karna gunah hei haram hei zanjeer zani haram hei tu ham pory shia matm karna aur zanjeer zani karna choor dy gy

baqi matam ka ref deta hon aur zanjeer zani ka b

 

ager aap yeh keh rahay hein kay Matam is haram tou aap goya yeh kehrahay hein kay Rasool Allah nein haraam kaam kiya

Bibi Um-e-Salama (Wife of Rasool Allah) - see sunan-e-Ibn-Maja (one of Saha Sitta)

tou Rasool Allah nein Bibi sey kaha kay unn ko aaram karna hai koiee bhee aajaiy tou waapis kardein tu jab imam e hussain as aye tu bibi ne roka tu imam hussain andar jany waly thay

tu un ka paon pisal gia tu hazoor saw ne bibi se kaha k tum ne mere HUSSAIN as ko q roka hei tu bibi ne farmaya aap ne khud farmaya tha k kisi ko andar na any dein hazoor saw ne farmaya mene tum se ye kaha tha k kisi ko nahe any dena kisi ko mean kisi ko aur hussain mera apna hei hussain muj se hei aur me hussain se hon aur aap jis tim imam hussain ka pao phisla tu aap door kar aye aur othaya aur ghamzada ho gy is se sabit howa k imam hussain as k mamly me saber nahe farmaty thay

aap log kehty ho na k saber kar lia karo is ki daleel ho gai hei

sunan ibne maja aap ki maya nas book hei baqi

 

 

is se bari daleel kia hogi ager pher b na mano tu tum musliman he nahe q k nabi saw ki 1 hadees na man'ne wala jahnmi hei kafir hei

 

Hazrat Abbas R.A ki Zoja ka beyan hai k ek din main Rasool (SAWW) ki khidmat main hazir hoi

aur Hussain A.S ko Rasool (SAWW) ki god main de diya aur zara si dair k liye kahi aur

mutwajo ho gayi,is k bad dekha

k Rasool (SAWW) ki ankhon main ansoo jari hain,meray dareyaft karnay pe irshad farmaya

Jibrael A.S meray pass aye thay aur mujhe ye khabar di k meri ummat meray is farzand ko qatal

kar de ge,main ne poocha is farzand ko to kaha han.

 

mashkat shareef vol 2 page 442 hadees # 5888

 

rasool saw khud roye shahdat se pehly imam ki socho ager ye hal tha shahdat se pehly tu baad me kia hota matam na karty wo NABI SAW jo apny pyary k 1 girny par ghamzada ho jayen

tu kia wo ye tamam waqya bardasht kar paty

 

 

Sabb sey pehla girya Hazrat Aadam kA

 

Hadhrath Adam was so distressed that he smashed his hands onto his knees and the skin from

his hands caused gashes from which bone could be seen.

hazrat yaqoob usaf a.s par roye ( beshak un ko maloom tha k usaf thek thak hein lekn pher b roye q k anbya sa k pas ghaib ka ilm hei)

suraye maida ayat no 83

phir Hazrat Ibrahim ka

phir Hazrat Younus ka Hazrat Yousuf lay liay

see sura-e-Ibrahim and Sura-e-Yousuf

Girya means - girya-o-zari, rona aur matam karna

tou pehli baat yahan yeh pata chal rahi hai kay matam Anbeeyah ki sunnat hai

 

phir Um-e-Salama sey riwayat kay Rasool Allah (sw) nein Imam Hussain per girya kiya jab Hazrat Jibraieel Allah ka paigham laiay kay Imam Hussain 3 din kay bhookay pyasay, be-jurm-o-khata shaheed kiaya jaingay

 

Hazrat Abu Talib aur Hazrat Khateeja ka jis saal wisaal hua, wou pura saal gham raha aur girya hua

 

Hazrat Owais Qarni nein apnay do daant shaheed kiay Uhad kay Waqiey mein

 

mere bhai Tareekh hai tareekh, parho tu pata chalay, aietiraaz pehlay aajata hai

 

matam quran me

 

IBRAHEEM ki BEWA SAARA chillati houye in k samny aaye or apna mou (face) peetny lagi..

 

 

Suraah e ZARIYAT

AAYAT num 28

26 aur 27 b par lena ok

 

 

"Rasulullah (s) was in a state where he was hitting his chest."

 

(BoOK al bidaeya wal nehaeya ibn-e-kaseer vol 7 page 188)

 

 

(BOOK tareekh-e-tibri vol 6 page 302)

 

"When Ayesha was defeated and Ali saw the corpses on the

ground he began to beat his thighs"

 

(BOOK Saheeh al Bukharee Volume 2 page 50)

 

(mota imam malik)

 

 

(BOOK Taufa Ithna Ashari page 523 published in Karachi)

 

 

"When Umar received news of the death of Numan ibn Muqran he placed his hand on his head

and wailed 'O family of Numan!'

 

 

 

(BOOK Ahl'ul Sunnah's authority work Aqd al Fareed Volume 2 page 5)

 

 

hazrat usman ki shahdat

 

 

JAB HAZRAT USMAN QATAL HOWE TU QATIL KI KHABAR GHAR POHNCHI UN KI BIVI (NAHELA)

BETHI THE LOGO NE KAHA AYE BIBI G LOOT E GY AP K SHOHAR HAZRAT USMAN MARAY GY

KHALIFA TUL MUSLEMEEN QATIL HO GY BIBI MUHABBAT MEI OTH KAR PAS SE 1 DANDA (MONGLI)

OTHA KAR APNAY SIR ME MARA AUR JAGA PAR HE MAR GAI

(IMAN JAGAO MUSLIMANO)

 

(BOOK TAJUL AROOS JILD NO 10 PAGE NO 742 MATBOHA MISER

RIGHT SID OF THE PAGE LIN NO 6)

 

(ALM'NAL WAL NEHAL PAGE NO 144)

 

al bidaeya wal nehaeya ibn-e-kaseer vol 7 page 188

 

jang e ohad ka matam

 

Jung-e-Ohad k bad jab Hazrat Hamza k jism madina laya geya aur baqi Shaheedo ka to har koi

apnay azeez ko ro raha tha aur Rasool (SAWW) Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass akelay kharay thay

inocent boy left this room.

 

Rasool (SAWW) ne ek sada buland ki asman ki taraf Mou kar k,Ay Allah aj meray hamza ko

ronay wala koi bi nahi

 

ye baat Sahaba ne sun lo aur sab ko kaha k chalo pehle Rasool (SAWW) k chacha ka gham kar

lain

 

ab ghor se suno janab

 

aurtain Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass aur mard ghar k bahir kharay ho gaye aur matam

shuru kar diya

 

phER Rasool (SAWW) ne kaha k main tum se razi hon

 

(Seerat-u-Nabi (SAWW) Vol 1 page 146)

 

hazrat bilal ka matam

 

 

NABI SWA KO BUKHAR HOWA TU HAZRAT BILAL HABSHI RA KO PATA LAGA TU WO DEKHNAY K LEYE AP SWA K GHAR ME AYE BILAL RA NE AP KI NAZAK TABYAT DEKH KAR AP K CHEHRA MUBARAK KI TLAWAT KI AUR PHER MONH PAR MATAM KIA BIBI AYSHA PASS KHARI THE INHO NE KAHA YA RASOOL ALLAH SAW YE KIA KAR RAHE HEI IN KO ROKO TU AP SWA NE FARMAYA KHAMOSH YE IZHAR E MUHABBAT KAR RAHA HEI

 

(BOOK ALMANAL WAL NEHAL PAGE NO 198)

 

bibi aysha ka matm again

 

 

 

BIBI AYSHA NE FARMAYA JAB HAZOOR SWA DUNYA SE PARDA FARMA GY TAB AP SWA KA SIR MERI

JHOLI ME THA 3 DAFA HELAYA NAHE HELE 3 DAFA BOLAYA NAHE BOLAY TAB MUJE YAQEEN HO GYA

K NABI SWA DUNYA SE HALAY GY BIBI AYSHA NE FARMAYA MUHABAT E RASOOL SWA MEI AA KAR

SIR JHOLI SE HATA KAR MENE SIR PAR B MATAM KIA RAANA PAR B MATAM KIA.

 

(BOOK AL MADAHEB WAN NEHAYAT PAG NO 252 MATBOHA MISER RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE LIN NO 16)

 

ab b na mano tu aap par lanat hei aur me us ko musliman he nahe samjta jo in hadeeso ko na many

 

ashaba ka matam namaz k duran

 

1 ashabi ne chenk mari or tmam ashaba ghore or petna shero kar diya

 

sunan abi daud vol 1 page 244

 

sunan nisayi vol 3 page 16

 

ye lo aik aur bara ref

pher b na mano tu lanat

 

[ ye aap par lena munazra howa tha kuch}

{in me kuch nosri hei ignor him only haqer and hazrat umer par dihan dina baqi ko chor do ignor other people}

 

{] HAZRAT UMER RA: ahqar bhai aap 1 pori hadees likho pher us k neche refrence dy do plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[04:03:31] Ahqar: ap ne misum bhai ki baat nahi pehi pehle

[04:03:45] HAZRAT UMER RA: pari the yad nahe hei

[04:03:50] Ahqar: k

[04:03:57] Ahqar: main mic pe bolta hon

[04:04:03] Ahqar: ap k pass speakers to hain na

[04:04:08] HAZRAT UMER RA: pher muje yad nahe rahe gi

[04:04:31] Ahqar: k

[04:05:29] Ahqar: Jung-e-Ohad k bad jab Hazrat Hamza k jism madina laya geya aur baqi Shaheedo ka to har koi apnay azeez ko ro raha tha aur Rasool (SAWW) Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass akelay kharay thay

[04:05:55] Ahqar: Rasool (SAWW) ne ek sada buland ki asman ki taraf Mou kar k,Ay Allah aj meray hamza ko ronay wala koi bi nahi

[04:06:20] Ahqar: ye baat Sahaba ne sun lo aur sab ko kaha k chalo pehle Rasool (SAWW) k chacha ka gham kar lain

[04:06:24] Ahqar: ab ghor se suno janab

[04:06:51] Ahqar: aurtain Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass aur mard ghar k bahir kharay ho gaye aur matam shuru kar diya

[04:07:04] Ahqar: phri Rasool (SAWW) ne kaha k main tum se razi hon

[04:07:18] Ahqar: Seerat-u-Nabi (SAWW) Vol 1 page 146

[04:07:59] Ahqar: note kar lo

[04:08:11] HAZRAT UMER RA: kar li thnx

[04:08:15] Ahqar: k

[04:09:09] HAZRAT UMER RA: akser hamara sawal ye he hota hei imam e hussain tu boat pehle shaheed ho chuke or un ka gham aaj q mnaya jata hei 1 daa boat hota hei

[04:09:31] HAZRAT UMER RA: 1dafa

[04:09:58] Ahqar: jis saal Hazrat Khadija S.A aur Hazrat Abu Talib A.S ki rehlat hoi Rasool (SAWW) ne us pooray saal ko gham ka saal qarar diya

[04:10:04] Ahqar: is ka jawab hai ap k pass?

[04:10:16] Ahqar: Eid har saal kyun a jati hai

[04:10:32] Ahqar: Milad har saal kyun a jata hai

[04:10:57] Ahqar: inho sawaloo main ap ka jawab hai

[04:11:05] HAZRAT UMER RA: g wo us he sal howa tha na mere sawal ko pre na aap

[04:11:15] HAZRAT UMER RA: bad mei tu nahe kiya na gham

[04:11:28] HAZRAT UMER RA: 1400 so sal ho gy hei gham mnaya ja raha hei

[04:11:31] Ahqar: Nabi ne jo kam ek bar bi kiya wo Sunnat hai

[04:11:35] Ahqar: kya ye baat nahi mantay ao

[04:11:37] Ahqar: ap*

[04:12:00] HAZRAT UMER RA: g ye manta ho

[04:12:05] Ahqar: is k ilawa agar mana kiya ho phir bi kuc baat ho

[04:12:22] Ahqar: lakin Hazrat Hamza R.A ka gham ya zulm itna nahi jitna Imam Hussain A.S ka hai

[04:13:27] HAZRAT UMER RA: iamam e HUSSAIN RA ko shahed howe 1400 sal ho gy hei

[04:13:37] Ahqar: ji bilkul

[04:13:38] HAZRAT UMER RA: lekn aaj gham q mnaya jata hei

[04:13:52] Ahqar: ye ehtejaj hai us zulm k khilaf

[04:13:55] HAZRAT UMER RA: wo kon sa her sal mnate thay gham

[04:14:37] Ahqar: Nabi ne jo kam ek bar kiya agar koi muslim us pe iqtefa nahi karta to hum Nabi se ziada kisi ki daleel nahi de saktay

[04:14:41] HAZRAT UMER RA: jinho ne mara tha wo b dafa ho gy jo shaheed ho gy

[04:14:42] Ahqar: Nabi ne Hajj ek kiya

[04:14:53] Ahqar: aj kal log har saal hajj kartay hain lakin gunnah nahi hota

[04:14:54] HAZRAT UMER RA: ab kaisa ehtjaj

[04:14:59] Ahqar: Al Hajj ban jatay hain

[04:15:15] HAZRAT UMER RA: nabi ne haj 1 kiya hei

[04:15:27] Ahqar: aj bi kuch muslim un ko mantay hain jinhoo ne shaheed kiya

[04:15:33] HAZRAT UMER RA: nabi ne kitne kiye hei haj

[04:15:35] Ahqar: ji 1 kiya hai

[04:15:39] Ahqar: 1

[04:16:06] HAZRAT UMER RA: ALI RA NE kitne keye tha

[04:16:10] HAZRAT UMER RA: thay

[04:16:15] Ahqar: 1 se ziada

[04:16:23] HAZRAT UMER RA: kitne

[04:16:36] Ahqar: sure nahi hai mujhe is liye main ghalat nahi bata sakta

[04:16:36] HAZRAT UMER RA: 1 se ziada he keye thay

[04:16:43] Ahqar: 3 ya 5

[04:16:52] HAZRAT UMER RA: 25 keye thay

[04:17:07] Ahqar: ye ap ne kis tareekh main parha hai

[04:17:24] HAZRAT UMER RA: 15 hazoor k sath i think

[04:17:34] Ahqar: shahbash

[04:17:37] Ali_110: {HAZRAT UMER RA} khud har mahiine 11ween manao wo kher hay

[04:17:39] Ahqar: v gd

[04:17:50] Ali_110: hum saal main aik baar muharam kiya kar lain

[04:17:53] Ahqar: Nabi ne 15 hajj kar liye

[04:17:54] Ahqar: lolz

[04:17:56] Ali_110: qiyamat aajati hay:D

[04:17:57] Ahqar: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahhha

[04:18:07] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap ki book hei muje shia dost ne d the

[04:18:12] HAZRAT UMER RA: book copy the

[04:18:14] Ahqar: nam batao zara

[04:18:21] Ahqar: nabi k hajj main to koi ikhtelaf hi nahi

[04:18:35] Ahqar: har muslim janta hai k ek hajj kiya tha

[04:18:56] HAZRAT UMER RA: name nahe likha tha lekn wo red color tha us ka name nahe likha tha photo copy ki tara pages thay

[04:19:04] Ahqar: copy yani k kisi 10 rupay wali copy pe likha howa tha

[04:19:20] HAZRAT UMER RA: pory rigister tha

[04:19:21] Ahqar: behar hal ye ap ko ghalat fehmi hoi hai

[04:19:25] HAZRAT UMER RA: pora

[04:19:34] Ahqar: ye ghalat hai

[04:19:38] HAZRAT UMER RA: 14 masoom ki kahani the life story

[04:19:39] Ahqar: shia sunni is baat pe mutafiq hain

[04:19:43] Ahqar: k Nabi ne 1 hajj kiya hai

[04:20:11] Ahqar: wo jab milay ge to bata dain pehle jo topic hai us pe wapis a jao

[04:20:16] HAZRAT UMER RA: is ka matlib muje kitab ghalt d gai hei man gya wa

[04:20:26] HAZRAT UMER RA: gg

[04:20:35] Ahqar: ap ne bataya k kitab kisi ne di aur usay shai bi keh diya

[04:20:39] Ahqar: aur hum man jaye

[04:20:44] Ahqar: bacha samaj rakha hai

[04:20:47] HAZRAT UMER RA: mera dost hei

[04:20:57] Ahqar: kan se roti nahi khatay hum jani

[04:20:58] HAZRAT UMER RA: qsm se yara

[04:21:06] Ahqar: us se book ka nam pooch laina

[04:21:09] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap se jhot bolo ga

[04:21:13] HAZRAT UMER RA: ok

[04:21:17] Ahqar: kyun k aj tak islam ki kisi book main ye nahi likha geya

[04:21:46] HAZRAT UMER RA: pher us ne khud likha ho ga

[04:21:52] Ahqar: wo jo bi hai

[04:21:57] Ahqar: abi topic pe wapis a jao

[04:22:10] Ahqar: matam ko ghalat sabit karo Quran ki ayat ya Hadees se

[04:22:22] misum moosavi: haan baat ko mukammal karo

[04:22:23] misum moosavi: pehle

[04:22:49] HAZRAT UMER RA: quran mei hei k zinda par matam haram hei

[04:22:57] Ahqar: ji beshak

[04:23:12] HAZRAT UMER RA: or shaheed zinda hote hei

[04:23:16] Ahqar: beshak

[04:23:52] HAZRAT UMER RA: or HUSSAIN RA shaheed howe thay

[04:23:57] Ahqar: bilkul

[04:24:05] HAZRAT UMER RA: un par matam q

[04:24:13] HAZRAT UMER RA: haram howa na pher

[04:24:13] Ahqar: un par kon matam karta hai

[04:24:26] Ahqar: hum to zulm k khilaf jo un pe howa us pe matam kartay hain

[04:24:42] HAZRAT UMER RA: lol

[04:24:44] Ahqar: hamain to fakhar hai k hamara Imam Shaheedo ka Sardar hai

[04:24:54] HAZRAT UMER RA: beshak

[04:24:57] Ahqar: un ki mazlomiyat pe

[04:25:16] HAZRAT UMER RA: aaap matam karte ho tu hay hussain hay hussain kehte ho

[04:25:29] Ahqar: ji bilkul

[04:25:40] HAZRAT UMER RA: ye un par he matam howa na

[04:25:53] Ahqar: un ki mazloomiyat pe hai

[04:25:57] Ahqar: k un ka kya gunnah tha

[04:26:11] Ahqar: kis waja se un pe zulm kiya geya

[04:26:14] Ahqar: ummat kaha thi us waqt

[04:26:27] Ahqar: Rasool (SAWW) ka ghar akela reh geya tha Deen ko bachanay k liye

[04:26:39] HAZRAT UMER RA: acha

[04:27:29] HAZRAT UMER RA: lejn ye nachne wala matam kis jaga kia gya hei

[04:27:34] HAZRAT UMER RA: dhool k sath

[04:27:53] Ahqar: jo iran main hota hai?

[04:28:06] HAZRAT UMER RA: wo khushi mnate hei

[04:28:14] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap ghami mnate ho

[04:28:15] Ahqar: ji nahi

[04:28:26] HAZRAT UMER RA: matam karte hei

[04:28:31] HAZRAT UMER RA: lol

[04:28:39] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap mzakh kar rahe ho

[04:28:42] Ahqar: jab karbala main Rasool (SAWW) k ghar ki aurtoo ko qaid kar liya geya aur be parda kar diya geya tab zalimoo ne dhol bajaye

[04:28:56] HAZRAT UMER RA: shia room k user dekho

[04:29:01] Ahqar: aj wo sama paida kiya jata hai

[04:29:04] HAZRAT UMER RA: o shit

[04:29:19] inocent boy: kiunnnn?

[04:29:44] HAZRAT UMER RA: acha

[04:29:51] HAZRAT UMER RA: tu aap yaha q nahe karte

[04:30:02] Ahqar: culture ki baat hai

[04:30:08] HAZRAT UMER RA: lolz

[04:30:10] Ahqar: saudia walay kapray ap yaha kyun nahi pehantay

[04:30:18] HAZRAT UMER RA: yar cultuer kaha

[04:30:20] HAZRAT UMER RA: ka

[04:30:23] Ahqar: ramzan main waisa intezam yaha kyun nahi kartay

[04:30:39] HAZRAT UMER RA: jab zulm 1 jesa howa pher cultuer kaisa

[04:30:56] Ahqar: islam ek jaisa aya phir kaproo ka farq kaisa?

[04:31:13] HAZRAT UMER RA: islam mei kapre kaha hei

[04:31:26] Ahqar: culture hai na pakistan ka

[04:31:26] HAZRAT UMER RA: mnah hei

[04:31:30] Ahqar: saudia ka alag

[04:31:32] Ahqar: iran ka alag

[04:31:35] Ahqar: misar ka alag

[04:31:37] HAZRAT UMER RA: cultur ko choro na

[04:31:44] Ahqar: aur gham karnay ka har insaan ka apna tareeka hota hai

[04:31:57] HAZRAT UMER RA: islam mei kapre kha mnah hei

[04:32:18] Ahqar: mana nahi lakin main wo hi bata raha hon k saudia wala culture yaha kyun nahi

[04:32:29] Ahqar: islam ne culture k khilaf kabhi kuch nahi kaha

[04:32:30] inocent boy: what islam to itna pak mzhab hai usme kapre nhi ??/

[04:32:39] Ahqar: lolz

[04:33:09] HAZRAT UMER RA: u r waqya he incorect

[04:33:20] HAZRAT UMER RA: ok

[04:33:24] HAZRAT UMER RA: topic

[04:33:30] Ahqar: yh

[04:33:34] Ali_110: :)

[04:34:58] HAZRAT UMER RA: IMAM E HUSSAIN ra par kis ashab nematam kia ya likha hei kahe hadees mei ya quran mei

[04:35:23] Ahqar: ap k liye meyar kya hai

[04:35:23] Ali_110: {HAZRAT UMER RA} aaho:)

[04:35:28] Ahqar: Rasool ya ashab

[04:35:46] HAZRAT UMER RA: RASOOL NE MATAM NAHE KIA

[04:35:50] Ali_110: {Ahqar} inka rasool to aam aadmi tha

[04:35:58] Ali_110: un se achy to sahaba thy :P

[04:35:59] HAZRAT UMER RA: IMAM E HUSSAIN ra par

[04:36:02] Ahqar: Rasool ne to phir azan bi nahi di

[04:36:16] Ali_110: jin ki shariyat pakad li hay inhon ne

[04:36:17] HAZRAT UMER RA: ali kin se

[04:36:27] Ali_110: or Rasool saww ki shariyat chorh di hay

[04:36:37] HAZRAT UMER RA: ali aap khamosh raho plz}

 

kuch atech kar raha hon follow him

 

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umeed hei is k bad koi sawal nahe hoga ager koi sacha musliman howa tu aik b hadees ki nafarmani nahe kary ga shukrya

 

NOTE :- ISLAM ME KOI ZOOR ZABAR DASTI NAHE HEI AUR HAMARI ITNI HIMAT NAHE K AAP KO SHIA KAR SAKY APNY ZOOR PAR AUR NA HE HM CHAHTY HEI K AAP SHIA HO JAYE

HAM SIRF YE CHAHTY HEI K KAM SE KAM AAP MATAM AUR ZANJEER ZANI NAHE KARTY TU HAM SHIA KO B MAT ROKY OK

DOSRI BAT JO ME KEHNY WALA HON WO YE HEI K AGER IS ME KOI GHALTI HOI HEI TU MAF KEJYE GA ALFAZ WAGHERA ME SHUKRYA

BAQI SAB NE APNI APNI QABER ME JANA HEI

AUR MUJE ITNI UMEED HEI K AAP KA AGLA SWAL KOI NAHE HO GA IN HADESO KO PAR KAR YA AAP MATM KARNA MAAN JAO YA PHER APNI IN BOOKS KO PHAR DO SHUKRYA

 

 

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AGER THORI C SHARM KISI ME HOI TU AB WO YE NAHE KAHY GA K MATAM KARNA HARAM HEI JIS ME HALAL KA 1 ZARA B HOWA WO AB YE NAHE KAHAY GA K MATAM KARNA GUNAH HEI AGER MUSLIMAN KA ZARA B HOWA TU YAQEENAN WO YE NAHE KAHE GA K MATAM NAHOZBILLAH KARNA HARAM HEI BIDAT HEI YA KOI AUR BAD WORD USE NAHE KARY GA SHUKRYA

GHALTI GUSTAKHI MAF

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chalein janab apnay bachay ka yeh bahana bhi khatam ker doon k ishaq k baray mein ta k bhagnay ka koi aur rasta na milay meray laal ko...

Muhammad ibne Ishaq ibne yasaar:

 

Dhabbi farmate hai:

 

[ 4718 ] محمد بن إسحاق بن يسار أبو بكر ويقال أبو عبد الله المطلبي مولاهم المدني الإمام رأى أنسا وروى عن عطاء والزهري وعنه شعبة والحمادان والسفيانان ويونس بن بكير وأحمد بن خالد كان صدوقا من بحور العلم

به وحديثه حسن

 

Rough Translation:- Muhammad ibne Ishaq ibne Yasaar was truthful(Suduq) and his Hadith are Hasan(good).

 

Source:- Alkashif fi Marifa, Vol 2, Pg no 45.

 

Online source:- http://www.almeshkat...cat=23&book=627

 

Comments:- Now this is specific comment of Allama Dhabbi on Muhammad ibne Ishaq ibne Yasaar and though he cited some Jirah(denouncement) from some sources but then he discarded it and complied his Tade'el(Praise)

 

to janab yeh aap k ulma ka ishaq zaeef nahi tha...ab mera laal koi aur bahana dhonday ga ya bhagay ga ??

 

 

ٓآپ نے مختلف محدثین کا یہ قول نقل کیا ہے کہ محمد بن اسحاق صدوق ہے، علامہ ذہبی کا قول آپ نے پورا نقل کیوں نہیں کیا؟ علامہ ذہبی کا اپنا قول یہ ہے۔

 

" مجمل القول فيه أنه صالح صادق ، وما انفرد به ففيه نكارة "

ميزان الاعتدال ج 3 ص 477

 

یعنی یہ صدوق تو ہے لیکن اس کی منفرد روایات منکر ہوتی ہیں، اور یہ روایت بھی محمد بن اسحاق کی منفرد روایات میں سے ہے۔ لہٰذا قابل ِ حجت نہیں۔

 

قال أيوب بن إسحاق بن سافري : سألت أحمد بن حنبل ، فقلت : إذا انفرد ابن إسحاق بحديث ، تقبله ؟ قال : لا

ایک شخص ایوب بن اسحاق بن سامری نے امام محمد سے محمد بن اسحاق کی اس حدیث کے متعلق سوال کیا جس میں وہ منفرد ہو تو امام احمد نے جواب میں فرمایا کہ نہیں قبول کی جائے گی۔

 

سير(7/46)، و تهذيب الكمال، المزي (24/422)، وتاريخ بغداد، الخطيب البغدادي (1/320).

 

علامہ بدرالدین عینی نے شرح بخاری میں امام بیہقی سے نقل کیا ہے کہ جن روایات میں ابن اسحاق منفرد ہو ان کے قبول کرنے سے علماء اجتناب کرتے ہیں۔

نقال البیہقی الحفاظ یتوفون ما ینفرد بہ ابن اسحاق

عمدۃ القاری شرح البخاری للعینی ج ۶ ص ۱۷۸

 

 

 

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_حیات القلوب ، ج ۲ ص ۱۰۰۸

ابن بابویہ نے بسند معتبر امام محمد باقر سے روایت کی ہے کہ جناب رسالتماب (ص) نے اپنی وفات کے وقت جناب فاطمہ (رض) سے فرمایا کہ

جب میں مر جاوں تو میرے غم میں اپنے چہرے کو زخمی مت کرنا اور نہ اپنے بالوں کو پریشان کرنا اور مجھ پر فریاد و نالہ اور نوحہ مت کرنا اور نہ نوحہ کرنے والوں کو طلب کرنا۔ .

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اس کا جواب کب آئے گا؟

 

 

 

جلاء العیون ج ۱ ص ۱۳۵

بسند معتبر جابرانصاری سے روایت کی ہے کہ حضرت رسول (ص) نے اپنے آخر مرض میں جناب فاطمہ (رض) سے کہا

’’اے فاطمہ واضح ہو کہ پیغمبر کے مرنے میں گریبان چاک نہ کرنا چاہیے اور بان نوچنے نہ چاہیے اور واویلا نہ کہنا چاہیے اور وہ کہنا چاہیے جو تیرے باپ نے اپراہیم کے مرنے پر کیا کہ آنکھیں روتی ہیں اور دل روتا ہے اور میں وہ نہیں کہتا کہ موجب غضب پروردگار اور اے ابراہیم میں تجھ پر اندوہناک ہوں۔

 

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حاشیہ میں شیعہ مترجم کی بکواس ہمارے لئے حجت نہیں۔

 

ارشاد ، شیخ مفید، ج ۲ ص ۹۳

امام حسین نے اپنی بہن زینب سے کہا

اے بہن ، میں تمہیں قسم دیتا ہوں، میری قسم کو ضرور پورا کرنا، اپنی جیبیں (لباس) مت پھاڑنا ، اپنے چہرے کو زخمی مت کرنا۔

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خصال ص ۱۰۶

امام جعفر صادق نے فرمایا کہ مجھے نہیں معلوم کہ بڑا جرم کرنے والا کون ہے؟ ایک وہ جو جنازے کے پیچھے غیر کی مصیبت میں بغیر چادر کے چلتا ہے، دوسرا وہ جو مصیبت کے وقت اپنی ران پر ہاتھ مارتا ہے، تیسرا وہ جو لوگوں سے کہتا ہے کہ اس سے نرمی برتو اور رحم کی دعا کرو۔

 

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شرح میں لکھا ہے کہ ان روایات سے پتا چلتا ہے کہ کسی مردہ کے پیچھے یہ کام انجام دینا بہت برا ہے، تو ظاہر ہے کہ مصیبت کے وقت ران پر ہاتھ مارنا بھی بہت برا ہے۔

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خصال ص ۱۲۲

رسول اللہ (ص) نے فرمایا کہ چار باتیں میری امت میں تا قیامت رہیں گی۔

۱۔ خاندانی فخر ۲۔ نسب میں طعنہ دینا۔ ۳۔ ستاروں کی مدد سے بارش کی پیش گوئی کرنا ۴۔ مردوں پر نوحہ کرنا

رونے پیٹنے والے اگر اپنی موت سے پہلے توبہ نہ کریں تو روز قیامت تارکول کا کرتہ پہنے ہوئے اور خارش کے مرض میں مبتلا ہوں گے۔

 

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شیعوں خارش کے لئے تیار رہو۔

 

 

 

خصال ص ۱۰۹

رسول اللہ (ص) نے حضرت علی (رض) کو وصیت فرمائی کہ جس نے اپنی عورت کی اطاعت کی اللہ تعالٰی اس کو منہ کے بل دوزخ میں پھینک دے گا۔ آپ (رض) نے عرض کیا ، وہ کون سی اطاعت ہے؟ فرمایا کہ حمام میں جانے کی، دوسرے مجلس عروسی ، تیسرے نوحہ گری، چوتھے باریک لباس پہننے کی اجازت دے۔

حضرت علی (رض) نے فرمایا کہ جس شخص نے ان چار باتوں میں اپنی عورت کو اجازت دی اس کو پروردگار عالم منہ کے بل دوزخ میں پھینک دے گا، عرض کیا گیا ، وہ چار چیزیں کیا ہیں؟ آپ نے فرمایا ایک باریک کپڑے پہننے کی اجازت جس سے جسم نظر آئے ، حمام ، مجالس نوحہ گری واور شادی بیاہ کی تقریب میں جانے کی اجازت دینا۔

 

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Matami sahab, aap ne buht references deay, ek reference aap ne ye diya.

 

"When Ayesha was defeated and Ali saw the corpses on the

ground he began to beat his thighs"

 

(BOOK Saheeh al Bukharee Volume 2 page 50)

 

aap hamay ye sabit kar dejeay, warna aap ke baqi references per bhi koi aitbar nahi kia ja sakta.

 

Ye lejeay, Sahih Bukhari ki online website, aur himmat kejeay, hamay ye hadith dikha dejeay.

 

http://www.usc.edu/schools/college/crcc/engagement/resources/texts/muslim/hadith/bukhari/

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sab se pehli bat ye hei k aap ko ham daleel dy b dein tuaap ne man'na nahe hei

aap ne quran me para he hoga

tarjma

AY MUHAMAD SAW HAM NE IN K DILO PAR MOHRY LAGA DI HEIN JIS NE MAN'NA HOWA WO 1 AYAT SUN KAR MAN JAYE GA JIS NE NA MAN'NA HOWA US KO PORA QURAN B SUNA DO WO NAHE MANY GY

aur quran ham muslimano k leye hei kafro k leye nahe hei aur tmara b hisam isi tara ka hei kuch dosra ager ham aap ko apki books se sabit karty hei tu aap ko man'na pary ga ager aap hamri books se sabit kar dein k matam karna gunah hei haram hei zanjeer zani haram hei tu ham pory shia matm karna aur zanjeer zani karna choor dy gy

baqi matam ka ref deta hon aur zanjeer zani ka b

 

ager aap yeh keh rahay hein kay Matam is haram tou aap goya yeh kehrahay hein kay Rasool Allah nein haraam kaam kiya

Bibi Um-e-Salama (Wife of Rasool Allah) - see sunan-e-Ibn-Maja (one of Saha Sitta)

tou Rasool Allah nein Bibi sey kaha kay unn ko aaram karna hai koiee bhee aajaiy tou waapis kardein tu jab imam e hussain as aye tu bibi ne roka tu imam hussain andar jany waly thay

tu un ka paon pisal gia tu hazoor saw ne bibi se kaha k tum ne mere HUSSAIN as ko q roka hei tu bibi ne farmaya aap ne khud farmaya tha k kisi ko andar na any dein hazoor saw ne farmaya mene tum se ye kaha tha k kisi ko nahe any dena kisi ko mean kisi ko aur hussain mera apna hei hussain muj se hei aur me hussain se hon aur aap jis tim imam hussain ka pao phisla tu aap door kar aye aur othaya aur ghamzada ho gy is se sabit howa k imam hussain as k mamly me saber nahe farmaty thay

aap log kehty ho na k saber kar lia karo is ki daleel ho gai hei

sunan ibne maja aap ki maya nas book hei baqi

 

 

is se bari daleel kia hogi ager pher b na mano tu tum musliman he nahe q k nabi saw ki 1 hadees na man'ne wala jahnmi hei kafir hei

 

Hazrat Abbas R.A ki Zoja ka beyan hai k ek din main Rasool (SAWW) ki khidmat main hazir hoi

aur Hussain A.S ko Rasool (SAWW) ki god main de diya aur zara si dair k liye kahi aur

mutwajo ho gayi,is k bad dekha

k Rasool (SAWW) ki ankhon main ansoo jari hain,meray dareyaft karnay pe irshad farmaya

Jibrael A.S meray pass aye thay aur mujhe ye khabar di k meri ummat meray is farzand ko qatal

kar de ge,main ne poocha is farzand ko to kaha han.

 

mashkat shareef vol 2 page 442 hadees # 5888

 

rasool saw khud roye shahdat se pehly imam ki socho ager ye hal tha shahdat se pehly tu baad me kia hota matam na karty wo NABI SAW jo apny pyary k 1 girny par ghamzada ho jayen

tu kia wo ye tamam waqya bardasht kar paty

 

 

Sabb sey pehla girya Hazrat Aadam kA

 

Hadhrath Adam was so distressed that he smashed his hands onto his knees and the skin from

his hands caused gashes from which bone could be seen.

hazrat yaqoob usaf a.s par roye ( beshak un ko maloom tha k usaf thek thak hein lekn pher b roye q k anbya sa k pas ghaib ka ilm hei)

suraye maida ayat no 83

phir Hazrat Ibrahim ka

phir Hazrat Younus ka Hazrat Yousuf lay liay

see sura-e-Ibrahim and Sura-e-Yousuf

Girya means - girya-o-zari, rona aur matam karna

tou pehli baat yahan yeh pata chal rahi hai kay matam Anbeeyah ki sunnat hai

 

phir Um-e-Salama sey riwayat kay Rasool Allah (sw) nein Imam Hussain per girya kiya jab Hazrat Jibraieel Allah ka paigham laiay kay Imam Hussain 3 din kay bhookay pyasay, be-jurm-o-khata shaheed kiaya jaingay

 

Hazrat Abu Talib aur Hazrat Khateeja ka jis saal wisaal hua, wou pura saal gham raha aur girya hua

 

Hazrat Owais Qarni nein apnay do daant shaheed kiay Uhad kay Waqiey mein

 

mere bhai Tareekh hai tareekh, parho tu pata chalay, aietiraaz pehlay aajata hai

 

matam quran me

 

IBRAHEEM ki BEWA SAARA chillati houye in k samny aaye or apna mou (face) peetny lagi..

 

 

Suraah e ZARIYAT

AAYAT num 28

26 aur 27 b par lena ok

 

 

"Rasulullah (s) was in a state where he was hitting his chest."

 

(BoOK al bidaeya wal nehaeya ibn-e-kaseer vol 7 page 188)

 

 

(BOOK tareekh-e-tibri vol 6 page 302)

 

"When Ayesha was defeated and Ali saw the corpses on the

ground he began to beat his thighs"

 

(BOOK Saheeh al Bukharee Volume 2 page 50)

 

(mota imam malik)

 

 

(BOOK Taufa Ithna Ashari page 523 published in Karachi)

 

 

"When Umar received news of the death of Numan ibn Muqran he placed his hand on his head

and wailed 'O family of Numan!'

 

 

 

(BOOK Ahl'ul Sunnah's authority work Aqd al Fareed Volume 2 page 5)

 

 

hazrat usman ki shahdat

 

 

JAB HAZRAT USMAN QATAL HOWE TU QATIL KI KHABAR GHAR POHNCHI UN KI BIVI (NAHELA)

BETHI THE LOGO NE KAHA AYE BIBI G LOOT E GY AP K SHOHAR HAZRAT USMAN MARAY GY

KHALIFA TUL MUSLEMEEN QATIL HO GY BIBI MUHABBAT MEI OTH KAR PAS SE 1 DANDA (MONGLI)

OTHA KAR APNAY SIR ME MARA AUR JAGA PAR HE MAR GAI

(IMAN JAGAO MUSLIMANO)

 

(BOOK TAJUL AROOS JILD NO 10 PAGE NO 742 MATBOHA MISER

RIGHT SID OF THE PAGE LIN NO 6)

 

(ALM'NAL WAL NEHAL PAGE NO 144)

 

al bidaeya wal nehaeya ibn-e-kaseer vol 7 page 188

 

jang e ohad ka matam

 

Jung-e-Ohad k bad jab Hazrat Hamza k jism madina laya geya aur baqi Shaheedo ka to har koi

apnay azeez ko ro raha tha aur Rasool (SAWW) Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass akelay kharay thay

inocent boy left this room.

 

Rasool (SAWW) ne ek sada buland ki asman ki taraf Mou kar k,Ay Allah aj meray hamza ko

ronay wala koi bi nahi

 

ye baat Sahaba ne sun lo aur sab ko kaha k chalo pehle Rasool (SAWW) k chacha ka gham kar

lain

 

ab ghor se suno janab

 

aurtain Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass aur mard ghar k bahir kharay ho gaye aur matam

shuru kar diya

 

phER Rasool (SAWW) ne kaha k main tum se razi hon

 

(Seerat-u-Nabi (SAWW) Vol 1 page 146)

 

hazrat bilal ka matam

 

 

NABI SWA KO BUKHAR HOWA TU HAZRAT BILAL HABSHI RA KO PATA LAGA TU WO DEKHNAY K LEYE AP SWA K GHAR ME AYE BILAL RA NE AP KI NAZAK TABYAT DEKH KAR AP K CHEHRA MUBARAK KI TLAWAT KI AUR PHER MONH PAR MATAM KIA BIBI AYSHA PASS KHARI THE INHO NE KAHA YA RASOOL ALLAH SAW YE KIA KAR RAHE HEI IN KO ROKO TU AP SWA NE FARMAYA KHAMOSH YE IZHAR E MUHABBAT KAR RAHA HEI

 

(BOOK ALMANAL WAL NEHAL PAGE NO 198)

 

bibi aysha ka matm again

 

 

 

BIBI AYSHA NE FARMAYA JAB HAZOOR SWA DUNYA SE PARDA FARMA GY TAB AP SWA KA SIR MERI

JHOLI ME THA 3 DAFA HELAYA NAHE HELE 3 DAFA BOLAYA NAHE BOLAY TAB MUJE YAQEEN HO GYA

K NABI SWA DUNYA SE HALAY GY BIBI AYSHA NE FARMAYA MUHABAT E RASOOL SWA MEI AA KAR

SIR JHOLI SE HATA KAR MENE SIR PAR B MATAM KIA RAANA PAR B MATAM KIA.

 

(BOOK AL MADAHEB WAN NEHAYAT PAG NO 252 MATBOHA MISER RIGHT SIDE OF THE PAGE LIN NO 16)

 

ab b na mano tu aap par lanat hei aur me us ko musliman he nahe samjta jo in hadeeso ko na many

 

ashaba ka matam namaz k duran

 

1 ashabi ne chenk mari or tmam ashaba ghore or petna shero kar diya

 

sunan abi daud vol 1 page 244

 

sunan nisayi vol 3 page 16

 

ye lo aik aur bara ref

pher b na mano tu lanat

 

[ ye aap par lena munazra howa tha kuch}

{in me kuch nosri hei ignor him only haqer and hazrat umer par dihan dina baqi ko chor do ignor other people}

 

{] HAZRAT UMER RA: ahqar bhai aap 1 pori hadees likho pher us k neche refrence dy do plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[04:03:31] Ahqar: ap ne misum bhai ki baat nahi pehi pehle

[04:03:45] HAZRAT UMER RA: pari the yad nahe hei

[04:03:50] Ahqar: k

[04:03:57] Ahqar: main mic pe bolta hon

[04:04:03] Ahqar: ap k pass speakers to hain na

[04:04:08] HAZRAT UMER RA: pher muje yad nahe rahe gi

[04:04:31] Ahqar: k

[04:05:29] Ahqar: Jung-e-Ohad k bad jab Hazrat Hamza k jism madina laya geya aur baqi Shaheedo ka to har koi apnay azeez ko ro raha tha aur Rasool (SAWW) Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass akelay kharay thay

[04:05:55] Ahqar: Rasool (SAWW) ne ek sada buland ki asman ki taraf Mou kar k,Ay Allah aj meray hamza ko ronay wala koi bi nahi

[04:06:20] Ahqar: ye baat Sahaba ne sun lo aur sab ko kaha k chalo pehle Rasool (SAWW) k chacha ka gham kar lain

[04:06:24] Ahqar: ab ghor se suno janab

[04:06:51] Ahqar: aurtain Hazrat Hamza R.A k janazay k pass aur mard ghar k bahir kharay ho gaye aur matam shuru kar diya

[04:07:04] Ahqar: phri Rasool (SAWW) ne kaha k main tum se razi hon

[04:07:18] Ahqar: Seerat-u-Nabi (SAWW) Vol 1 page 146

[04:07:59] Ahqar: note kar lo

[04:08:11] HAZRAT UMER RA: kar li thnx

[04:08:15] Ahqar: k

[04:09:09] HAZRAT UMER RA: akser hamara sawal ye he hota hei imam e hussain tu boat pehle shaheed ho chuke or un ka gham aaj q mnaya jata hei 1 daa boat hota hei

[04:09:31] HAZRAT UMER RA: 1dafa

[04:09:58] Ahqar: jis saal Hazrat Khadija S.A aur Hazrat Abu Talib A.S ki rehlat hoi Rasool (SAWW) ne us pooray saal ko gham ka saal qarar diya

[04:10:04] Ahqar: is ka jawab hai ap k pass?

[04:10:16] Ahqar: Eid har saal kyun a jati hai

[04:10:32] Ahqar: Milad har saal kyun a jata hai

[04:10:57] Ahqar: inho sawaloo main ap ka jawab hai

[04:11:05] HAZRAT UMER RA: g wo us he sal howa tha na mere sawal ko pre na aap

[04:11:15] HAZRAT UMER RA: bad mei tu nahe kiya na gham

[04:11:28] HAZRAT UMER RA: 1400 so sal ho gy hei gham mnaya ja raha hei

[04:11:31] Ahqar: Nabi ne jo kam ek bar bi kiya wo Sunnat hai

[04:11:35] Ahqar: kya ye baat nahi mantay ao

[04:11:37] Ahqar: ap*

[04:12:00] HAZRAT UMER RA: g ye manta ho

[04:12:05] Ahqar: is k ilawa agar mana kiya ho phir bi kuc baat ho

[04:12:22] Ahqar: lakin Hazrat Hamza R.A ka gham ya zulm itna nahi jitna Imam Hussain A.S ka hai

[04:13:27] HAZRAT UMER RA: iamam e HUSSAIN RA ko shahed howe 1400 sal ho gy hei

[04:13:37] Ahqar: ji bilkul

[04:13:38] HAZRAT UMER RA: lekn aaj gham q mnaya jata hei

[04:13:52] Ahqar: ye ehtejaj hai us zulm k khilaf

[04:13:55] HAZRAT UMER RA: wo kon sa her sal mnate thay gham

[04:14:37] Ahqar: Nabi ne jo kam ek bar kiya agar koi muslim us pe iqtefa nahi karta to hum Nabi se ziada kisi ki daleel nahi de saktay

[04:14:41] HAZRAT UMER RA: jinho ne mara tha wo b dafa ho gy jo shaheed ho gy

[04:14:42] Ahqar: Nabi ne Hajj ek kiya

[04:14:53] Ahqar: aj kal log har saal hajj kartay hain lakin gunnah nahi hota

[04:14:54] HAZRAT UMER RA: ab kaisa ehtjaj

[04:14:59] Ahqar: Al Hajj ban jatay hain

[04:15:15] HAZRAT UMER RA: nabi ne haj 1 kiya hei

[04:15:27] Ahqar: aj bi kuch muslim un ko mantay hain jinhoo ne shaheed kiya

[04:15:33] HAZRAT UMER RA: nabi ne kitne kiye hei haj

[04:15:35] Ahqar: ji 1 kiya hai

[04:15:39] Ahqar: 1

[04:16:06] HAZRAT UMER RA: ALI RA NE kitne keye tha

[04:16:10] HAZRAT UMER RA: thay

[04:16:15] Ahqar: 1 se ziada

[04:16:23] HAZRAT UMER RA: kitne

[04:16:36] Ahqar: sure nahi hai mujhe is liye main ghalat nahi bata sakta

[04:16:36] HAZRAT UMER RA: 1 se ziada he keye thay

[04:16:43] Ahqar: 3 ya 5

[04:16:52] HAZRAT UMER RA: 25 keye thay

[04:17:07] Ahqar: ye ap ne kis tareekh main parha hai

[04:17:24] HAZRAT UMER RA: 15 hazoor k sath i think

[04:17:34] Ahqar: shahbash

[04:17:37] Ali_110: {HAZRAT UMER RA} khud har mahiine 11ween manao wo kher hay

[04:17:39] Ahqar: v gd

[04:17:50] Ali_110: hum saal main aik baar muharam kiya kar lain

[04:17:53] Ahqar: Nabi ne 15 hajj kar liye

[04:17:54] Ahqar: lolz

[04:17:56] Ali_110: qiyamat aajati hay:D

[04:17:57] Ahqar: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhahahahhha

[04:18:07] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap ki book hei muje shia dost ne d the

[04:18:12] HAZRAT UMER RA: book copy the

[04:18:14] Ahqar: nam batao zara

[04:18:21] Ahqar: nabi k hajj main to koi ikhtelaf hi nahi

[04:18:35] Ahqar: har muslim janta hai k ek hajj kiya tha

[04:18:56] HAZRAT UMER RA: name nahe likha tha lekn wo red color tha us ka name nahe likha tha photo copy ki tara pages thay

[04:19:04] Ahqar: copy yani k kisi 10 rupay wali copy pe likha howa tha

[04:19:20] HAZRAT UMER RA: pory rigister tha

[04:19:21] Ahqar: behar hal ye ap ko ghalat fehmi hoi hai

[04:19:25] HAZRAT UMER RA: pora

[04:19:34] Ahqar: ye ghalat hai

[04:19:38] HAZRAT UMER RA: 14 masoom ki kahani the life story

[04:19:39] Ahqar: shia sunni is baat pe mutafiq hain

[04:19:43] Ahqar: k Nabi ne 1 hajj kiya hai

[04:20:11] Ahqar: wo jab milay ge to bata dain pehle jo topic hai us pe wapis a jao

[04:20:16] HAZRAT UMER RA: is ka matlib muje kitab ghalt d gai hei man gya wa

[04:20:26] HAZRAT UMER RA: gg

[04:20:35] Ahqar: ap ne bataya k kitab kisi ne di aur usay shai bi keh diya

[04:20:39] Ahqar: aur hum man jaye

[04:20:44] Ahqar: bacha samaj rakha hai

[04:20:47] HAZRAT UMER RA: mera dost hei

[04:20:57] Ahqar: kan se roti nahi khatay hum jani

[04:20:58] HAZRAT UMER RA: qsm se yara

[04:21:06] Ahqar: us se book ka nam pooch laina

[04:21:09] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap se jhot bolo ga

[04:21:13] HAZRAT UMER RA: ok

[04:21:17] Ahqar: kyun k aj tak islam ki kisi book main ye nahi likha geya

[04:21:46] HAZRAT UMER RA: pher us ne khud likha ho ga

[04:21:52] Ahqar: wo jo bi hai

[04:21:57] Ahqar: abi topic pe wapis a jao

[04:22:10] Ahqar: matam ko ghalat sabit karo Quran ki ayat ya Hadees se

[04:22:22] misum moosavi: haan baat ko mukammal karo

[04:22:23] misum moosavi: pehle

[04:22:49] HAZRAT UMER RA: quran mei hei k zinda par matam haram hei

[04:22:57] Ahqar: ji beshak

[04:23:12] HAZRAT UMER RA: or shaheed zinda hote hei

[04:23:16] Ahqar: beshak

[04:23:52] HAZRAT UMER RA: or HUSSAIN RA shaheed howe thay

[04:23:57] Ahqar: bilkul

[04:24:05] HAZRAT UMER RA: un par matam q

[04:24:13] HAZRAT UMER RA: haram howa na pher

[04:24:13] Ahqar: un par kon matam karta hai

[04:24:26] Ahqar: hum to zulm k khilaf jo un pe howa us pe matam kartay hain

[04:24:42] HAZRAT UMER RA: lol

[04:24:44] Ahqar: hamain to fakhar hai k hamara Imam Shaheedo ka Sardar hai

[04:24:54] HAZRAT UMER RA: beshak

[04:24:57] Ahqar: un ki mazlomiyat pe

[04:25:16] HAZRAT UMER RA: aaap matam karte ho tu hay hussain hay hussain kehte ho

[04:25:29] Ahqar: ji bilkul

[04:25:40] HAZRAT UMER RA: ye un par he matam howa na

[04:25:53] Ahqar: un ki mazloomiyat pe hai

[04:25:57] Ahqar: k un ka kya gunnah tha

[04:26:11] Ahqar: kis waja se un pe zulm kiya geya

[04:26:14] Ahqar: ummat kaha thi us waqt

[04:26:27] Ahqar: Rasool (SAWW) ka ghar akela reh geya tha Deen ko bachanay k liye

[04:26:39] HAZRAT UMER RA: acha

[04:27:29] HAZRAT UMER RA: lejn ye nachne wala matam kis jaga kia gya hei

[04:27:34] HAZRAT UMER RA: dhool k sath

[04:27:53] Ahqar: jo iran main hota hai?

[04:28:06] HAZRAT UMER RA: wo khushi mnate hei

[04:28:14] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap ghami mnate ho

[04:28:15] Ahqar: ji nahi

[04:28:26] HAZRAT UMER RA: matam karte hei

[04:28:31] HAZRAT UMER RA: lol

[04:28:39] HAZRAT UMER RA: aap mzakh kar rahe ho

[04:28:42] Ahqar: jab karbala main Rasool (SAWW) k ghar ki aurtoo ko qaid kar liya geya aur be parda kar diya geya tab zalimoo ne dhol bajaye

[04:28:56] HAZRAT UMER RA: shia room k user dekho

[04:29:01] Ahqar: aj wo sama paida kiya jata hai

[04:29:04] HAZRAT UMER RA: o shit

[04:29:19] inocent boy: kiunnnn?

[04:29:44] HAZRAT UMER RA: acha

[04:29:51] HAZRAT UMER RA: tu aap yaha q nahe karte

[04:30:02] Ahqar: culture ki baat hai

[04:30:08] HAZRAT UMER RA: lolz

[04:30:10] Ahqar: saudia walay kapray ap yaha kyun nahi pehantay

[04:30:18] HAZRAT UMER RA: yar cultuer kaha

[04:30:20] HAZRAT UMER RA: ka

[04:30:23] Ahqar: ramzan main waisa intezam yaha kyun nahi kartay

[04:30:39] HAZRAT UMER RA: jab zulm 1 jesa howa pher cultuer kaisa

[04:30:56] Ahqar: islam ek jaisa aya phir kaproo ka farq kaisa?

[04:31:13] HAZRAT UMER RA: islam mei kapre kaha hei

[04:31:26] Ahqar: culture hai na pakistan ka

[04:31:26] HAZRAT UMER RA: mnah hei

[04:31:30] Ahqar: saudia ka alag

[04:31:32] Ahqar: iran ka alag

[04:31:35] Ahqar: misar ka alag

[04:31:37] HAZRAT UMER RA: cultur ko choro na

[04:31:44] Ahqar: aur gham karnay ka har insaan ka apna tareeka hota hai

[04:31:57] HAZRAT UMER RA: islam mei kapre kha mnah hei

[04:32:18] Ahqar: mana nahi lakin main wo hi bata raha hon k saudia wala culture yaha kyun nahi

[04:32:29] Ahqar: islam ne culture k khilaf kabhi kuch nahi kaha

[04:32:30] inocent boy: what islam to itna pak mzhab hai usme kapre nhi ??/

[04:32:39] Ahqar: lolz

[04:33:09] HAZRAT UMER RA: u r waqya he incorect

[04:33:20] HAZRAT UMER RA: ok

[04:33:24] HAZRAT UMER RA: topic

[04:33:30] Ahqar: yh

[04:33:34] Ali_110: smile.gif

[04:34:58] HAZRAT UMER RA: IMAM E HUSSAIN ra par kis ashab nematam kia ya likha hei kahe hadees mei ya quran mei

[04:35:23] Ahqar: ap k liye meyar kya hai

[04:35:23] Ali_110: {HAZRAT UMER RA} aaho:)

[04:35:28] Ahqar: Rasool ya ashab

[04:35:46] HAZRAT UMER RA: RASOOL NE MATAM NAHE KIA

[04:35:50] Ali_110: {Ahqar} inka rasool to aam aadmi tha

[04:35:58] Ali_110: un se achy to sahaba thy tongue.gif

[04:35:59] HAZRAT UMER RA: IMAM E HUSSAIN ra par

[04:36:02] Ahqar: Rasool ne to phir azan bi nahi di

[04:36:16] Ali_110: jin ki shariyat pakad li hay inhon ne

[04:36:17] HAZRAT UMER RA: ali kin se

[04:36:27] Ali_110: or Rasool saww ki shariyat chorh di hay

[04:36:37] HAZRAT UMER RA: ali aap khamosh raho plz}

 

kuch atech kar raha hon follow him

 

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umeed hei is k bad koi sawal nahe hoga ager koi sacha musliman howa tu aik b hadees ki nafarmani nahe kary ga shukrya

 

NOTE :- ISLAM ME KOI ZOOR ZABAR DASTI NAHE HEI AUR HAMARI ITNI HIMAT NAHE K AAP KO SHIA KAR SAKY APNY ZOOR PAR AUR NA HE HM CHAHTY HEI K AAP SHIA HO JAYE

HAM SIRF YE CHAHTY HEI K KAM SE KAM AAP MATAM AUR ZANJEER ZANI NAHE KARTY TU HAM SHIA KO B MAT ROKY OK

DOSRI BAT JO ME KEHNY WALA HON WO YE HEI K AGER IS ME KOI GHALTI HOI HEI TU MAF KEJYE GA ALFAZ WAGHERA ME SHUKRYA

BAQI SAB NE APNI APNI QABER ME JANA HEI

AUR MUJE ITNI UMEED HEI K AAP KA AGLA SWAL KOI NAHE HO GA IN HADESO KO PAR KAR YA AAP MATM KARNA MAAN JAO YA PHER APNI IN BOOKS KO PHAR DO SHUKRYA

 

 

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AGER THORI C SHARM KISI ME HOI TU AB WO YE NAHE KAHY GA K MATAM KARNA HARAM HEI JIS ME HALAL KA 1 ZARA B HOWA WO AB YE NAHE KAHAY GA K MATAM KARNA GUNAH HEI AGER MUSLIMAN KA ZARA B HOWA TU YAQEENAN WO YE NAHE KAHE GA K MATAM NAHOZBILLAH KARNA HARAM HEI BIDAT HEI YA KOI AUR BAD WORD USE NAHE KARY GA SHUKRYA

GHALTI GUSTAKHI MAF

 

Janab kya acha koshis ki hai tum na likin aab main pehla do ayat with out refrence likhon ga ager refrence chahiya ho tu mujh sa la lana kyon ka ya dono ayat buhut mashoor hain.

Inullah Ma as Sabareen(Allah Sabar karna walon ka sath hai)Yani matam karna walon ka sath nahi hai.

Ina lillah wa ina ilahi rajaon(surah Baqra 156)(Hum Allah hi ka hain aur os ki taraf humian jana hia.)Gham ka waqt ya baat kahna zaroori hai likin ager koi matam kara tu kya asa ayat ka khilaf na ho ga.

aab kuch ahadis aur fatwa shia kutub sa.

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pehla matam yazedd ka ghar main

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Yazeed ka kahna apni biwi ko ka ghar ja aur in logon par matam kar.

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yazeed na apna moun par tamacha mara yani matam kya.

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karbala main matam karna wala kon tha khud dekh log Qatal tha wo Imam hussian ka.

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Khomini Talwar sa sar zakhmi karna ghalat kaam hai.

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Zanjeer aur dosri cheezon sa matam ki momniyat khud shai ka qalam sa

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Qama zani haram wo bidat hai by Khomini

saboot tu aur bhi buhut hain jo mera dosra sunni bhai da choka likin ya tauhfa meri taraf sa

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Janab kya acha koshis ki hai tum na likin aab main pehla do ayat with out refrence likhon ga ager refrence chahiya ho tu mujh sa la lana kyon ka ya dono ayat buhut mashoor hain.

Inullah Ma as Sabareen(Allah Sabar karna walon ka sath hai)Yani matam karna walon ka sath nahi hai.

Ina lillah wa ina ilahi rajaon(surah Baqra 156)(Hum Allah hi ka hain aur os ki taraf humian jana hia.)Gham ka waqt ya baat kahna zaroori hai likin ager koi matam kara tu kya asa ayat ka khilaf na ho ga.

aab kuch ahadis aur fatwa shia kutub sa.

 

 

LAGTA HAI ISS MASLE ME ABHI ME KOCH NA LIKHOON KIONKE,,,

 

 

 

SHIYOON NE PEHLE HI AHMAD RAZA KI BAD AQEEDGI ZAHIR KAR KE INN BRELVIOON KO BARBAAD KAR DIA HAI,

 

HASB-E MAMOOOOOL

ABHI TO YEH BRELVI.... SHIOON KO JAWAB NAHI DE PA RAHE AOR APNI HI BOOKS ME PHANSE HOEE HAIN

 

WARNA MAIN TO SACHI AHL-E-SUNAT AOR OLYA KARAM ( RA) KA GHAM-E HAZRAAT-E HASNAIN KAREEMAIN ( SATAWAW) MAIN MATAM SABIT KAROON GA INSHA ALLAH ( AJ)

 

YEH BRELVI SIRF OLYA KARAM ( RA) KO THORA SA JAANTE HAIN

WARNA OLYA KARAM ( RA) KI ZINDAGI KO ANDAR SE DEKHA JAI, TO

 

OLYA KARAM ( RA) KI SARI ZINDAGI, ALI ALI ( SATAWAW) ( SATAWAW) KARTE GOZRI AOR GHAM-E HAZRAAT-E HASNAIN KAREEMAIN ( SATAWAW) ( SATAWAW) MAIN TADAPTE GOZREE.

 

 

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JANAB AP BINA PENDE KE LOTE HEN,AP KA KOI MAZHAB HE TO SAMNE LAO KIO AOLIA ALLAH KA DHONG RACHA RAHE HO,HAMNE TOMARE AHLE TASHI KI KHOB PATAI KI HE ISI FORM PER,KAHIN ASA TO NAHI APHI AZAD SAB HO KIO KE TAQIA KARNA TO SHAN HE AP LOGO KI,KHER MAA KA DHODH PYA HE TO SAMNE KHOL KAR AO MEDAN ME WARNA IS MAKHNASI SE KUCH NAHI MELE GA

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JANAB AP BINA PENDE KE LOTE HEN,AP KA KOI MAZHAB HE TO SAMNE LAO KIO AOLIA ALLAH KA DHONG RACHA RAHE HO,HAMNE TOMARE AHLE TASHI KI KHOB PATAI KI HE ISI FORM PER,KAHIN ASA TO NAHI APHI AZAD SAB HO KIO KE TAQIA KARNA TO SHAN HE AP LOGO KI,KHER MAA KA DHODH PYA HE TO SAMNE KHOL KAR AO MEDAN ME WARNA IS MAKHNASI SE KUCH NAHI MELE GA

 

Bhai yeh kabhi bhi himat nahin karay ga yeh Taqqiya kar raha hai logon ko bewaqoof bananay ke liye isi liye isko shion ki besti pe dukh hota hai :lol: oye Pakistani shia sahib ab bas bhi karain itni bhi kya Munafqat hui ke aap Apna Aqida zahir hi nahin kar rahay :P itna bhi Taqiya na karain kahin aapko Sunni bananay ki adat na pard jaye :rolleyes: yeh janab Shia hain shia hain mera shaq ab yakeen mein badal gaya hai aur mujhay hairat hai ke Munafqat mein ek jagah Shion ko bhi Kafir keh gaye :lol: oh bhai Taqqiya ki aard mein apnay aapko kafir bhi bana diya ??

 

Shia sahib aap andhay hain ya jaan ke kartay hain aisay apko sharam nahin aati pichay Shion ki jo band baji hai uspe toh sharam ke maray apkay shia bhai bhi bhag gaye lekin aap hain ke Dhithon ki tarah chawlain maar rahay hain .

 

Aap apna Aqida waziyah karain aur khul ke samnay aayain Threads banayin jo baat karni hai karain Inshallah humaray Munazir bhai apko Mun tord sar phord jawab dein ge . :angry:

 

warna forum mein baraye meharbani spamm na karain yeh aap ne nahin saaf karni faltu posts .:P

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AND FROM QURAN PROVED MATAM AND AZADARI

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تعزیہ اور ماتم کے رد میں یہ پڑھییں آپ کی کافی باتوں کا جواب اس میں موجود ہے۔کنزالعمال اور غنیتہ الطالبین کے جو حوالہ جات آپ نے دیئے ہیں انکی سند اور حوالہ درکار ہے۔

 

http://www.nafseislam.com/en/Literature/Urdu/Books/TaziyaAurMaatam/TaziyaAurMaatam.pdf

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ye hy ISS MA AP HE NEY QURAN O HADEES SE SABIT KRNY KA KAHA THA JO K IK BHAI NE BAKHOOBI KIA HY PHR DOBARA DOBARA IK HE TOPIC KO SHURU KEU KRR TY HO KOE DHANG KA REFRENCE DO

 

 

جناب من میں نے آپ سے سند اور مکمل حوالہ جات کا مطالبہ کیا تھا جو آپ پورا نہ کر سکےاور نہ ہی انشا اللہ پورا کر سکتے ہیں۔آپ نے جس کتاب کے صفحات کاپی پیسٹ کئے ہوئے ہیں اس میں سیدنا اویس قرنی کا واقعہ بھی موجود ہے۔آپ صرف اس واقعہ کو صحیح سند سے بیان کر دیجئے۔صرف کاپی پیسٹ سے تو کام نہیں چلنے والا یہاں۔

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aby Tich BATAN SEHE KRHAN DAKH DAKHAN :angry:

 

جس شخص کو سند کا معنی نہیں آتا اس نے کیا خاک جواب دینا ہے۔

 

غلام حسین نجفی کی کتاب ماتم اور صحابہ جس سے آپ کاپی پیسٹ کرتے ہیں اس کا رد ہمارے حضرت محقق اسلام مولانا محمد علی نقشبندی صاحب اپنی کتاب فقہ جعفریہ کی جلد ۳ میں دے چکے ہیں۔اورایسا جواب دیا ہے کہ شیعت آج بھی اسکا جواب نہیں دے سکی۔

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OR DUN SANNADAIN

PHRR TM CAVLIYAN MARO GAY........ ABHI ISSI KA JAWAB DAY DO BARI BAT HY

 

جناب شیعہ صاحب!بتائیے کہ حضور اقدس ﷺ کے وصال مبارک کے بعدام المومنین سیدہ عائشہ صدیقہ رضی اللہ عنہا کتنا عرصہ اس دار فانی میں مو جود رہیں؟؟

اور حضور اقدسﷺ کے وصال مبارک کے بعد کیا ہر سال وصال شریف والے دن اپنا چہرہ پیٹتی تھیں؟؟اس کا جواب باقا ئدہ سند اور حوالہ کے ساتھ لکھیں۔۔۔

 

جناب من!آپ نے کتاب کا جو حصہ نقل کیا ہے اس کا فارسی ایڈیشن بھی پوسٹ کر دیجئے تا کہ آپ کا آپ کی اصلیت کھل کر سامنے آ جائے۔

اور جناب من!جب کسی کی وفات کا وقت قریب آ جاتا ہے تو اس کے ساتھ جو لوگ ہوتے ہیں انکی حالت مغلوب الحال کی سی ہوتی ہے۔اور اگر آ پکو تھوڑا سا بھی علم ہے تو سنیے کہ مغلوب الحال پر کوئی فتویٰ نہیں دیا جا سکتا۔اور ہمارے ہاں تو سوگ کی اجازت میں زیادہ تر تین دن تک ہے اور جائز ہے۔اسلئے آپ کی یہ عبارت ہمارے اوپر بالکل حجت نہیں۔

 

میرا مطالبہ ابھی بھی وہیں پر ہے کہ سند کے ساتھ ہر واقعہ کو بیان کریں تا کہ شیعت کی علمیت کا پول کھل کر سب کے سامنے آئے۔

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KEU MAGAR MA HE KEU LIKHUN TM ISS HAR BAR MA HE SANAD DAYTA RAHUN OR AP JINAB BAITTHY BATAIN BANNA TY JAIN WAH!!

DAKAH POST KA JAWB DO TO MA TMARI BAT JAWAB DUN GA

 

کیا یہ میرے مطالبے کا جواب ہے؟؟؟اسکا مطلب یہ ہوا کہ آپ صرف کاپی پیسٹ ہی کر سکتے ہیں۔آپ کی علمیت تو سب کے سامنے کھل کرآ ہی گئی ہے۔چلیں آپ کے مطالبے پر ہم آپ کی کتاب سے ماتم کی حرمت کو بیان کئے دیتے ہیں۔

 

اسکے بعد آپ کو بھی میرا مطالبہ پو کرنا ہوگا۔

میں آپ کی کتاب کا پیج ایڈ کر رہا ہوں۔عربی عبارت بمع سند۔۔۔اس کا ترجمہ اپنے کسی عالم سے پوچھنا کیوں کہ عربی عبارت کا ترجمہ کرنا آپ کے بس کی بات نہیں ہوگی۔ماتم کی حرمت

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جناب شیعہ!آپکی گستاخانہ پوسٹس لازمی ڈیلیٹ ہو گی۔اگر ادب کے دائزرے میں رہ کر گفتگو کریں گے تو پھر بات آگے چلے گی۔میرے کسی مطالبے کا آپ نے جواب نہیں دیا اور نہ ہی آپ لوگ دے سکتے ہیں انشااللہ۔

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