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ASSALAM U ALIKUM ALL,

 

MERA NAM DAWAR HAI AUR MAI NEW MEMBER HON IS FORUM KA...MASLA YEH HAI KE MAI ORKUT MAI EK COMUNITY "ULMA E DEOBAND ARE WALI ALLAH" KA MEMBER BHI HON AUR WAHAN MAI AKELA HON JO DEOBANDIYON SE LAR RAH AHAI MASLA YEH AHI KE MUJHE KUCH SCAN PROVES CHAAHIYE JO MAI UN KO DIKHA SAKON DEOBAND KE ORIGINAL BOOKS SE...AUR UNHO NE IMAM AHMAD RAZA KHAN SAHAB PE BHI ILZAM LAGAYA HAI..PLZ APP MERI HELP KAREN

 

ALLAH HAFIZ

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(wasalam)

Welcome to IslamiMehfil..

Aap Deobandiyon Key Aitarazat Yahan Post Ker Dein.. InshaAllah (azw) Aapko Jawab Mil Jaye Ga..

 

Aur Yahan Per Kaseer Topics Mojod Hain. Jis Mein Alahazrat (ra) Per Kiye Gaye Aitarazat Key Mufasil Jawabat Diye Gaye Hain.. Aur Kayi Topics Hain Jin Mein Deobandiyon Ki Scanned Books Sey Unkey Aqaid-e-Bad Bayan Kiye Gaye Hain... Aap Yahi Munazira & Radd-e-Badmazhab Waley Section Ki Posts Ko Check Kerein Aur Jo Aitarazat Hain Unhein Yahan Post Ker Dein...

 

Wasalam Ma'Al Ikram

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hazrat syedi abdul wahab akabir aulia main se hain .hazrat syedi ahmed badwi kabeer ke mazar par bohut bara mela aur hujum hota tah .is majme main chale atay thay ,aik tajir ki kaneez par nigah parhi nigah fouran pher li ke hadees nain irshad howa

an nazar aula laka saniya alaik

pahlio nazar tere liye aur dosri nazar tujh par yani pahli nazar ka kuch gunah nahi dosri nazar ka muwakhza hoga ,khair nigah to app ne pher li ,magar wo app ko pasand ayi ,jab mazar shareef par hazir howe irshad farmaya abdul wahab wo kaneez pasand hai ,arz ki haan apne sheikh se koi bat nahi chupana nahi chaie irshad farmaya acha hum ne tum ko wo kaneez hiba ki ,ab app sakoot main hain ke kaneez to is tajir ki hai aur huzoor hiba farmate hain,mahan wo tajir haizr howa ,aur is ne kaneez mazar-e-aqdas ki nazar ki ,khadim ko ishara howa unhoon ne app ki nazar kardi ,irshad farmaya abdul wahab ab dair kahe ki ,falan hujra main le jaow aur apni hajat puri karo .

(malfoozat aala hazrat vol 3 pg no 32)

 

 

is eteraz ka kya jawab hoga ...take mai unko jawab de sako..please tell me sage atta bhai

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ASSALAM U ALIKUM KHALIL BHAI AUR SAB LOG...

 

BHAI MUJHE UN SAB KITABON KE PAGES CHAHIYE JIS MAI UNHO NE ALLAH AUR US KE RASOOL KI SHAN MAI GUSTAKHI KI HAI AUR WOH BHI CHAHIYE JO BATAIN UNHO NE GHALAT KI HAI...PLZ MEHERBANI FARMA KE DE DIJIYE...

 

 

 

 

 

mile to mujy bhi send karna

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KHALIL BUHUT SUKRIYA...

MUJHE ZARA IS KA ANSWER DO TAFSILI TAKE MAI UNHE JAWAB DE SAKO...

 

 

 

 

 

hazrat syedi abdul wahab akabir aulia main se hain .hazrat syedi ahmed badwi kabeer ke mazar par bohut bara mela aur hujum hota tah .is majme main chale atay thay ,aik tajir ki kaneez par nigah parhi nigah fouran pher li ke hadees nain irshad howa

an nazar aula laka saniya alaik

pahlio nazar tere liye aur dosri nazar tujh par yani pahli nazar ka kuch gunah nahi dosri nazar ka muwakhza hoga ,khair nigah to app ne pher li ,magar wo app ko pasand ayi ,jab mazar shareef par hazir howe irshad farmaya abdul wahab wo kaneez pasand hai ,arz ki haan apne sheikh se koi bat nahi chupana nahi chaie irshad farmaya acha hum ne tum ko wo kaneez hiba ki ,ab app sakoot main hain ke kaneez to is tajir ki hai aur huzoor hiba farmate hain,mahan wo tajir haizr howa ,aur is ne kaneez mazar-e-aqdas ki nazar ki ,khadim ko ishara howa unhoon ne app ki nazar kardi ,irshad farmaya abdul wahab ab dair kahe ki ,falan hujra main le jaow aur apni hajat puri karo .

(malfoozat aala hazrat vol 3 pg no 32)

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KHALIL BUHUT SUKRIYA...

MUJHE ZARA IS KA ANSWER DO TAFSILI TAKE MAI UNHE JAWAB DE SAKO...

hazrat syedi abdul wahab akabir aulia main se hain .hazrat syedi ahmed badwi kabeer ke mazar par bohut bara mela aur hujum hota tah .is majme main chale atay thay ,aik tajir ki kaneez par nigah parhi nigah fouran pher li ke hadees nain irshad howa

an nazar aula laka saniya alaik

pahlio nazar tere liye aur dosri nazar tujh par yani pahli nazar ka kuch gunah nahi dosri nazar ka muwakhza hoga ,khair nigah to app ne pher li ,magar wo app ko pasand ayi ,jab mazar shareef par hazir howe irshad farmaya abdul wahab wo kaneez pasand hai ,arz ki haan apne sheikh se koi bat nahi chupana nahi chaie irshad farmaya acha hum ne tum ko wo kaneez hiba ki ,ab app sakoot main hain ke kaneez to is tajir ki hai aur huzoor hiba farmate hain,mahan wo tajir haizr howa ,aur is ne kaneez mazar-e-aqdas ki nazar ki ,khadim ko ishara howa unhoon ne app ki nazar kardi ,irshad farmaya abdul wahab ab dair kahe ki ,falan hujra main le jaow aur apni hajat puri karo .

(malfoozat aala hazrat vol 3 pg no 32)

 

(salam)

Bhayi Iska Jawab Aapko Oper Post#4 Mein Rana Sahib Ney Diya Hai.. Aap Usko Perhein Aur Jisko Jawab Dena Hai Aap Ney Usey Images Send Ker Dein...

 

MERE TAMAM USER JO IN FORUM MAI UN SE GUZARISH HAI KE MERI MADAD KAREN KYO KE MAI APP KO JO LINK DENE JA RAHA HON US KA JAWAB MERE PAS NAI HAI KE MAI DEOBANDION KO DE SAKO...

 

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Bhayi Jin Lines Ko Aap Ney Underline Kiya Hai.. Is Aitaraz Ka Jawab Rana Sahib Pehlay Aik Topic Mein Dey Chukey Hain... Haqeqat Aalaa Hazrat Bralvi ... Is Topic Ko Check Kerein Iska Jawab Tafseelan Mojod Hai... Awal Tu Yeh Baat Aalahazrat (ra) Ney Naqal Ki Mawahib-ul-Laduniya Sey... Tu Yeh Aitaraz Aalahazrat (ra) Per Nhin Balkey Imam Zurqani (ra) Per Hai.. AalaHazrat (ra) Tu Naqil Hain.. Mazeed Jo Iska Tafseeli Jawab Us Topic Mein Diya Gaya Hai Woh Perh Lejiye...

 

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Aur Iska Mazeed Jawab...

 

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(salam) to all Sunni Muslims

 

Speaker: Mufti Shaukat Sialvi

 

Mufti Shaukat Sialvi ka Talib Hussain Zaidi Shia/AntiHadees ko jawab

Speaker: Maulana Akram Rizvi Shaheed rehmatullah alaih

 

Maulana Akram Rizvi ka Wahabion Deobundion ko jawab[/size]

Maulana Akram Rizvi ki speech main diye gaye Hawala jaat ko yahan daikh saktay hain

 

Malfuzat ki ibaraat par aiterazat kay jawab(Audio)[/color]

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ASSALAM U ALIKUM,

 

YAR YEH DEOBANDIO KA SAMJH NAHI AATA MAI NE ITNI PROVES DIYE EK KA JAWAB NAHI DE RHAE SAWAL PE SAWAL KAR RAHE HAIN KHER....PLZ IS KA JAWAB INAYAT FARMAYE...AUR AGAR UN KI BOOK SE KOI HAWALA MIL JAYE TU KYA BAT HAI....

 

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LAST PAGE KE SIRF HAJAT PORI KARO TAK ANSWER CHAHIYE BAKI TU MASALLAH APP NE DI HI DIYA HAI ANSWER

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ASSALAM U ALIKUM,

 

YAR YEH DEOBANDIO KA SAMJH NAHI AATA MAI NE ITNI PROVES DIYE EK KA JAWAB NAHI DE RHAE SAWAL PE SAWAL KAR RAHE HAIN KHER....PLZ IS KA JAWAB INAYAT FARMAYE...AUR AGAR UN KI BOOK SE KOI HAWALA MIL JAYE TU KYA BAT HAI....

 

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LAST PAGE KE SIRF HAJAT PORI KARO TAK ANSWER CHAHIYE BAKI TU MASALLAH APP NE DI HI DIYA HAI ANSWER

asslam o alikum bhai jawab to de diya gaya hai .is malfooz per jo aetraz reh geya hai woh yahan likhein . khalil

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sir suway roza jhuka phir tuj ko kiya......???

dil tha sajid najdiya, phir tuj ko kiya....????

 

najdi murta hy q tazeeem ki....???

ye hamara deen tha phir tuj ko kiya...??

 

deo tuj sy khush hy phir hum kia kren.....??

hum sy razi hy Khuda phir tuj ko kia.....???

 

teri dozakh sy to kuch cheena nhe......

khuld me puhcha RAZA (ra) phir tuj ko kiya....???

 

:D

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Bhayi.. Aapka Jo Aitaraz Hai Uska Jawab Un Images Mein Mojod Hai Jo Rana Sahib Ney Aapko Post Kiye Hain... Kaneez Habba Ker Di Gayi Thi... Aur Habba Islam Mein Jaiz Hai.. Aap Wohi Images Mukhalifeen Ko Send Ker Dein.. Us Mein Qurani Aayat Sey Dalail Mojod Hain... Aub Mukhalif Un Images Ki Ebaraat Per Koi Aitaraz Kerey Tu Unko Yahan Post Ker Dein...

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Assalam-o-Allaikum wa`Rehmatullahe wa`Barakatuhu

 

Dawar bhai parayshaan na hon. Inhay InshAllah wahi jawab dein gay jaha inho ne kharafaat baki hain. "Ulema-e-Deoband Are WaliAllah" wali community ka Owner hai "Saqi". Ye pehlay hi itnay zakhm khaa chuka hai ke ab mujhay tu sari zindagi nahi ghusnay de ga uss community mein. Apnay Orkut profile ke link paste kar dijiye ya e-mail address de dijiye iss ke jawabat asaan tareeqay se likh kar send kar do ga aap waha inn ke munh per maar dijiye ga.

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(salam)

 

 

BUHUT SUKRIYA APP KI HIMMAT AFZAYI KA...HAN SAQI HAI IS KA MODERATOR...APP KISI AUR GMAIL KI ID SE IS MAI AAO....PHIR WAHAN IS KO DEKHTE HAIN...MAI WAHAN AKELA HON AUR BAQI SAB DEOBAND HAIN...MERA EMAIL ADDRESS HAI [email protected] & [email protected] APP MUJHE IN DONO PE EMAIL KAR SAKTE HAIN TAFSEEL SE...DOSRI BAT YEH KE RANA BHAI NE MUJHE JAWAB DIYA THA "SHAB BAASHI" KE MAMLE MAI AUR DEOBADN KI KITABON SE BHI DIKHAYA THA SHAB BAASHI KE BARE MAI...AB WO MUKAR RAHE HAI KE YE JAWAB TASSALI BAKHS NAHI HAI MAI NE KAHA TUM LOG TU WO HO JIN KO QURAN PAK BHI DIKHA DO TU KEH DO GE KE IS MAI SE JAWAB TASSALI BAKHS NAHI HAI...

 

ALLAH HAFIZ

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Dawar bhai uss bawlay Saqi ke jawabat yahi post kar raha hon... copy kar ke uss ke munh per de mariye ga... meri uss community mein membership request tu woh accept karay ga hi nahi! Lekin bus aik request hai... as it is post kijiye ga.. shayad issay ghairat aa jaye aur mujhay community join karne de!

 

 

1st post:

 

 

Saqi jo apnay time ka mashoor bhagoora reh chukka hai. Pata nahi kitnay hi topics khud create kar hum sunnis ko dekh kar aisa bhaga hai ke aaj tak un topics per jawab denay ki himmat nahi howi iss ki. Lekin yaha dekhiye, apnay community mein Sunnis ko allow kiye baghair kitna seena phulla kar uchal kood machai jaa rahi hai. Sahi kehtay hain apnay bill mein chooha bhi shair hota hai. Khair kitna hi chup le zaleel tu hona hi hai iss ne. Aik baat yaha ke tamaam members zehan mein rakhein ke Saqi ne hamaray ulema ka naam letay waqt bari bad’tameezi ka muzahira kya hai so agar mein bhi ussi andaaz mein Saqi ke mullao ko mukhatib karo tu kisi ko bura nahi lagna chahiye.

 

 

Sab se pehlay aiteraaz paish kiya Saqi nay [red](malfoozat aala hazrat vol 3 pg no 32 )[/red] se. Saqi ne hum Ahle’Sunnah wa al’Jamat per jo aiteraazat ya ilzamat lagaye woh yeh;

 

 

[red]1. “ghor se sunaye aur parhe is bat ko ke barelvion ke yahan buzurgoon ke mazarat par larkion ka charawa charta hai”[/red]

 

 

Agar ye aiteraaz Saqi ne khud kya hota tu mein ye samajh leta ke chalo typical jahil deobandari hai, kuch maloom na honay ke baad bhi her baat mein bidat hai bidat hai, shirk hai shirk hai chillana iss ki virasat hai lekin ye aiteraaz deobandario ke naam’nihaad mullay bhi kartay hain. Aur iss se saaf zahir hota hai ke awaam tu awaam, deobandario ke mullay bhi jahil hain!

 

 

Inn jahil deobandario ko “Bandi/Londi/Kaneez” ke baray Sharia’ee ihkaam hi nahi maloom! Hairat hoti hai ke apnay Darul-Uloom mein phir kya sirf Gangohi aur Nanotwi ke “Chaarpaee Games” hi sikhatay hain?

 

 

 

 

 

2nd post:

 

 

Khair aoo tum ko aur tumharay deobandari mullo ko dikhao ke Quran iss maslay mein kya kehta hai.

 

 

Surah al’Mominoon, ayat 5 & 6;

 

 

“[blue]Aur jo zakat diya kartay hain aur jo apni Shehwat ki jageh ko thaamtay hain (5) Magar apni auratoo per ya [red]apnay haath ke maal – baandiyo – per, soo unn per nahi kuch ilzaam[/red] (6)[/blue]”

(Maariful Quran, pg. 292)

 

 

Ab Saqi ke dimaagh mein forun se ye baat aye hogi ke translation per aiteraaz kar do, lekin ye chichoori harkat karne se pehlay yaad rakhna ke ye ooper likhi translation tumharay mashoor Muftay Shafi Usmani ki hai! Ab aoo tumhay tumharay Muftay ki tafsir bhi dikhao iss ayat per.

 

 

“[blue]Aur jo apni sharam’gaho ki (haram shehwat’rani se) hifazat rakhnay walay hain, lekin apni biwiyo se [red]ya apni (Sharaee) londiyo se (hifazat nahi kartay) kyu ke unn per (iss mein) koi ilzaam nahi[/red]. Haa jo iss ke ilawa (aur jageh shehwat’rani ka) talabgaar ho aisay loog hadd (sharaee) se nikalnay walay hain……[/blue]”

(Maariful Quran, pg. 293)

 

Ab Saqi shor machaye ga ke scans dikhao, to iss ki ye khuwahish bhi poori kar dete hain.

 

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Agar khujli abhi bhi khatam nahi howi ho Saqi ki tu Surah al’Maarij ki ayat 30 bhi dekh lena ya agar itni bhi toufiq nahi hoti tu bata dena. Uss ki tafsir bhi Maariful Quran se hi dikha don ga!

 

Khair! ye tu ab Quran se bhi sabit ho gaya ke apni (Sharaee) londi ya kaneez se mujamiatt ki jaa sakti hai aur iss per aik top class deobandari ki tafsir bhi mein dikha chuka. Ab Saqi ko chahiye ke ya tu Malfozaat-e-Ala Hazrat per aiteraaz na karay ya phir jaa kar pehlay apnay Muftay Shafi Usmani ki qabar per tara tarr jootay maray aur phir Ala Hazrat per aiteraaz karay!

 

 

 

 

 

3rd post:

 

[red]2. “ab barelvi ahmed raza sabit karna chata hai ke mazarat par larkion ko nazar marna sahi hai”[/red]

 

 

Malfoozat mein baat ho rahi hai Kaneez hiba karnay ki. Iss per shayad Saqi chalang laganay ke mood mein hoga ke Londi/Kaneez kisi doosray ko di ja sakti hai ya nahi tu iss per tu Bukhari ki ye hadiths parh lo;

 

 

“[blue]Narrated Kurib:

 

 

the freed slave of Ibn 'Abbas, that Maimuna bint Al-Harith told him that she manumitted a slave-girl without taking the permission of the Prophet. On the day when it was her turn to be with the Prophet, she said, "Do you know, O Allah's Apostle, that I have manumitted my slave-girl?" He said, "Have you really?" She replied in the affirmative. He said, "[red]You would have got more reward if you had given her (i.e. the slave-girl) to one of your maternal uncles.[/red]"[/blue]

( Volume 3, Book 47, Number 765)

 

 

In Malik Mawatta you can easily find this;

 

[blue]Malik said, "The generally agreed upon way of doing things among us is that if a man returns a slave girl in whom he has found a defect and [red]he has already had intercourse with her[/red], he must pay what he has reduced of her price if she was a virgin. If she was not a virgin, [red]there is nothing against his having had intercourse with her because he had charge of her[/red]."[/blue]

(Book 31, Number 31.4.4:)(excerpt)

 

Sach mein bara dil kar raha hai tumhara zalalat bhara chehra dekhna ka Saqi! Matlab jis cheez ka tum mazaak uraye jaa rahay thay uss ka saboot Quran-o-Hadiths se dekhnay ke baad tumhari shikal per kaisi manhoosiyat baras rahi hogi I can imagine!!

 

Mera her baar deobandariyo se aik hi simple sawal hota hai. Aiteraaz karne se pehlay thori research kyu nahi kartay? Apnay mullay ki kitab mein jo parha as it as likh kar uss per seena phulla kar aisay kharay ho jatay ho jaisay dunya fateh karli!

 

 

 

4th post:

 

[red]3. “aur aj bhi dekhein ke jahil bidati barelvi log apni larkion ko mazrat par chor jate hain wahan kia hota hai sab waqif hain us se”[/red]

 

Aik saboot! Sirf aik saboot dikha do zyada kuch nahi mangta. Agar Ala Hazrat ki baat kartay ho tu Ala Hazrat ne auratoo ke mazaar per janay ke radd mein poori kitaab likhi hai “Jumal an-Nur fi Nahyi’n Nisa an’Ziyaratil Qubur”. Tafseeli tour per Ala Hazrat ne auratoo ke mazaar per janay ka radd kya hai. Jin mazaraat ka tum zikr kartay ho un ki administration humaray haatho mein de do! Aisay tamam mazaraat ke auqaaf mein kaun loog hain ye jaa kar khud maloom kar saktay ho tum. Alhumdulillah jin mazaraat per hamari administration hai waha iss qism ki koi harkat nahi hoti.

 

Chalo jee .. tumhari bakwaas ka jawab tu tumharay munh per maar dya. Agar tumhay Malfoozat ka ye references ghalat lagta hai tu sab se pehlay tu Bukhari aur Malik Muwatta per aiteraaz karo, phir jaa kar apnay Muftay Shafi Usmani ki qabar per paishaab karo ke uss ne Tafsir mein ye kya likh dya. Phir ye saray kaam kar lenay ke baad hamari taraf aa kar aiteraaz karna.

 

Aur Saqi bachay! Tujhay sab se 1 on 1 debate ka bara shouq hai aur mujhay tu community mein anay nahi deta! Its me Sybarite.... Itni kyu jaan nikalti hai mere samnay beth kar baat karne se? Abhi bhi teri iss community koi join kya hai.. request aa gai hogi tere paas... agar hai hosla baat karne ka tu kar accept! Zindagi mein aik baar tu mard ban kar samnay aa kar baat kar! Kab tak zananiyoo ki tarah community band kar ke taaliya bajata rahay ga!

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