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Kafeel Ahmed Khan

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ZARRA SOCHAIN ISS HISAB SAI...

ISMEEL DEHALVI KON ?

RASHEED AHMAD GANGOHI KON ?

ASHRAF ALI THANVI KON ?

AUR UNN K MANN NE WALAY SHAITAAN K CHELAY KON ??? :rolleyes:

 

Zara Bata Deinggei K Mazzaque kon urhata hei.... Islam ka Mazzaque urhanain walon ka naam darj karoon to bus phirr aap mujhie yehaan se bhagaa do gei bhai ... Mohmmad(SAW) Insnaan Thei Ye Quran Kehtaa hei to hum bhi ye hi kaheinggei... Rasool(SAW) Ghaib nahin janttei thei ye bhi quran nahin kaha hei hum bhi ye hi kaheinggei... Rasool Noor Nahin hein Ye BHi Quran nain kahaa hei hum bhi ye hi kaheinggei... aur Allah nain apnain aap se kisi ko paydaa nahin kiya ye bhi quran nain hi kahaa hei isi lyein hum ye nahin kaheingei... Aur ager jo in tamaam cheezon k khilaaf jata hei woh kon hei...?????????

 

Ghustakh.......????

Shaitan.........????

Ya Musalman keh suktei hein ..........????

 

 

Aap Har kaheen bicharei dewbandee aur wahabi ko kheench tei ho kabhi urud bazar jana wahaan aap logon k lyein bhi kafi tasneefaat hein woh bhi parh lijye ga..... warnaa mujhei batein main amin okarhvee sahab ka manazra dei deitaa hoon yehaan sub deakh leingei.....???? Kiya Kisi Suahaba Nain Deen main ghuloo kiya ya kisi suahaba nain ye kahaa k nabe Ghaib janttei hein kiya kisi suahaba nain ye kahaa k Nabee Noor hein kiya kabhi kisi suahaba nain Mohmmad(SAW) ki wafaat k baad Aap ko pukaraaa jeisse hazir aur nazir ko pukartei hein bal k Siddique e akber(RA) to ye farmatei Hein Jub Umer (ra) josh main aa k kehtei hein k koi naan kahei k Mohmmad(SAW) ka inteqaal ho gaya hei to AbuBaker(RA) farmatei hein k ager tum Mohmmad(SAW) ki ibadat kartei thei to Woh Inteqaal kar gai hein Aur Ager Allah tala ki Kartei Thei To WOh Humaisha ZIndda rehnain wala hei...... Yani k suahaba bhi ghustakh thei Mazallah Yar Hosh k nakhun lo kisi ahl e ilm pe aesse tohmat naan lagaao...Please.

 

Allah Tala hum sub ko Sahee deen pe chalnain ki toufeeque ataa farmaai aur Hum ko Khalis Sunnat e nabawee pe chalnain ki toufeeque ataa farmaai......

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Kafeel Sahib.. Behter Hai Key Aap Dalail Sey Bat Kerein Tu Zyada Munasib Hai.. Aur Her Topic Per Alag Alag Bat Kerien...

 

Oper Jo Hawala Diya Gaya Hai.. Aap Us Per Bat Kerien Woh Kufr Hai Ya Nhin? Us Mein Hawala Allamah Qurtabi Aleh Rahma Ka Hai...

 

Mazeed Jo Batain Aap Ney Likhi Hain... Us Per Main Sirf Itna Kahon Ga Key Aap Kabhi Quran-o-Hadees Perhein Khud.. Aur Apney Molvi Ki Andhi Taqleed Na Kerein?

 

Aap Ney 2 Topics Likhein Hain..

 

1) Noor-o-Bashar

2) Ilm-e-Ghaib

 

Ilm-e-Ghaib Per Aap Sey Bat Ho Rahi Hai Dosrey Topic Mien.. InshaAllah Aapko Sahaba-e-Karam (raa) Ka Bhi Sabit Ker Dein Gey... (ia) Takey Aapki In Batoon Ka Radd Bhi Jaye... Key Kiya Kisi Sahabi Ney Kaha...........

 

Noor-o-Bashar Per Aap Aik Topic Bana Lein Munazra Section Mein.. InshaAllah (azw) Aapko Quran-e-Pak Sey Sarkar (saw) Ki Noraniyat Sabit Ker Dein Gey.. Us Key Baad Hadith Sey Aur Us Key Baad Aima-e-Karaam Sey..

 

Umeed Hai Aap Sirf Zabani Naaron Ki Bajaye Dalail Ki Taraf Aayen Gey...

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Kafeel Sahib.. Behter Hai Key Aap Dalail Sey Bat Kerein Tu Zyada Munasib Hai.. Aur Her Topic Per Alag Alag Bat Kerien...

 

Oper Jo Hawala Diya Gaya Hai.. Aap Us Per Bat Kerien Woh Kufr Hai Ya Nhin? Us Mein Hawala Allamah Qurtabi Aleh Rahma Ka Hai...

 

Bhai Jaan Bhai nain bat to sahee karee mager upper jin jin alim ko ghaseta hei woh ghalat tha woh to kufer hei mager jo Quran keh raha hei woh bhi parh lijye ga basher aur ilm e ghaib ki maloomat ...

 

Mazeed Jo Batain Aap Ney Likhi Hain... Us Per Main Sirf Itna Kahon Ga Key Aap Kabhi Quran-o-Hadees Perhein Khud.. Aur Apney Molvi Ki Andhi Taqleed Na Kerein?

 

Aap Ney 2 Topics Likhein Hain..

 

1) Noor-o-Bashar

2) Ilm-e-Ghaib

 

Ilm-e-Ghaib Per Aap Sey Bat Ho Rahi Hai Dosrey Topic Mien.. InshaAllah Aapko Sahaba-e-Karam (raa) Ka Bhi Sabit Ker Dein Gey... (ia) Takey Aapki In Batoon Ka Radd Bhi Jaye... Key Kiya Kisi Sahabi Ney Kaha...........

Be Shuck Kisi Suahabi Se Kisi Sahee Sanad Se Sabit Nahin Bal K Main Aap o Woh Hadith BHi Deitaa hoon jis Main Hazrat Mohammad (saw) nain manaa farmaya k ye mat kaho....

 

Aap Mein Kahaa Quran Aur Hadith Ko Parhein Mujhei Herat ho Rahee hei kAhle Biddat aessi batein kartei hein Traqleed naan karein hahaha yani k Ultaa chore kotwal ko dantei Alhadulillah Main Sirf Quran aur hadth pe hi chaltaa hoon Ager main bhi andee taqleed kar raha hota to Usool-e-Fareediya Parh kar main bhi ye hi keh raha hota noor-o-min-noor-illah ya Ya Rasoollah Madad hei naan maire bhai Sirf quran aur hadith pe chaltaa hei woh sirf suhaba k jeissa hi chalaa hei suhaba azaan se pehiely salath nahin parhtie thei azaan k bad parhtei thei suhaba rafay dein bhi kartei thei suahaba bohat kuch kartei tei jo ahl e taqleed nahin kartei topic khatm ho jaingie mager behess khatum nahin hogi maire bhai...... Aur such ye hi hei jis ko sirat e mustaqeem yani k woh rastaa jis pe Rasool(SAW) chalei us pe ager chalnaa hei to Sirf quran aur hadith ko hujjat manna hoga kisi ki andhee taqleed nahin karne hogi ager quran kehtaa hei basher hein to manna parhei ga basher hei Aur Quran kehtaa hei Nabee ilm e ghaib nahin janttei to ye bhi manna parhei ga.....!!!!

 

Aap Batana Passand kareinggei k noor kon sa Makhlooqi noor ya Allah azzawajal nain apnain Noor se paydaa kiya....? is ka jawaab zaroor diye ga... Shukriya.. Allah tala sub ko Suchi Sunnat pe chalnian ki taufeeque dein

 

Alim-ul-GHaib Allah (azw) Ya Phirr Rasool (saw)

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Is Se Zahir Hota Hei Hazrat Mohammad (saw) Is Se Pehlei Ki BAT MALOOm Na Thee To Allah Is Lyeinataa Raha hei Kuch Log Sumajhtei Hein K Hazrat Mohmmad(SAW) Duniya bannei Se Peihlei Se mojood Hein..

[1] [Aur Tum Ghaibee Janib Nahin The Jub Hum Nain moosa Ki Taraf Hukum Bhaijja Aur Na Us Waqiya Ko Deikhnain Wale The.{Surah # 28 Al-Qasas Aiyat # 44}]

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Ye Aiyat bHi ye hI Dalat kartee Hei K Hazrat Mohammad(SAW) in qomon k barei main nahin maloom tha Allah (azw) Hazrat Mohammad(SAW) ko wahee k zariye hi bata rahei hein..

[2] [Hum Nain Bohat See Naslein Paydaa Kieein Phirr IN Per muddat Daraaz Guzaree Aur Too Madeen Walon Main Nahin Rehtaa Tha K Unhein Humari Aiyatein Sunata Lekin Hum Rasool Bhaijte Rahe.{Surah # 28 Al-Qasas Aiyat # 45}]

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Is Se BHi ye HI Sabit Hota Hei

[3] [Aur too Toor K Kinarei Per Na Tha Jub Hum Nain Awaaz Di Lekin Tere Rabb K Ye Inaam Hei Taa K In Logon Ko Drai Jin K pas Tujh Se pehle Koi Daranain Wala Nahin Aiyaa Taa K Woh Nasihat Hassil Karein.{Surah # 28 Al-Qasas Aiyat # 46}]

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ji Junaab....!!!

[4] [Ye Ghaib ki Khabrein Hein Hum Bazariyaa Wahee Tumhein Itlaa Deite Hein Aur To In K Pass Nahin Tha Jub Apnaa Qalam Dalnian lage The Mariyam Ki Kon perwarish kare Aur Too In K pass Nahin Tha Jub K Woh Jhagadte The.{Surah # 3 Al-Imran Aiyat # 44}]

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ji Junaab...!

[5] [Ye Ghaib Ki Khabrein Hein Jinhein Hum Aap Ki Taraf Wahee Kar Rahe Hein Is Se Pehle Na To Aap Hi Jantte The Aur Na Aap Ki Qoam Jantti Thi Pass Saber kar Kyun K behter Anjaam Perhaiz Garon K Lyein Hei.{Surah # 11 Hud Aiyat # 49}]

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Is Se do batein saf ho jati hein k Hazrat Mohammad(SAW) , Hazrat Moosa alihisslam k dore main nahin thei yani k Hazrat Mohammad(SAW) ko sub se pehlei nahin peydaa kiya gaya... aur dusree bat ye

[6] [Ye Ghaib Ki Khabrein Kahein Jo Hum Teire Haa Bhaijte Hein Aur Too In K pass NahiN Tha Jub K Unhon Nain Apnaa iradah packa Kar Liyaa Aur Woh Tadbeerein Kar Rahe The.{Surah # 12 Aiyat # 102}]

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Ji Junaab....!!!

[7] [Woh Paak Hei Jiss nain Raton Raat Apnain Bandde Ko Masjid Haraam Se Masjid e Aqsaa Tuk Sair Karaai Jiss K Ird Gird Hum Nain Barkat Rakhee Hei Taa K Hum Ise Apni Kuch Nishaniyaan Dikhaain Be SHuck Woh Sune Wala Deakhnain Wala Hei.{Surah # 17 isra Aiyat # 1}]

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Allah Tala bata raha hei k hum nain tumhari bader ain madad kar di hei yani k Hazrat Mohammad(SAW) NAIN BADER KI LARHAI MAIN duaa mangee thi k A ALLAH maded kar ager ye jamaat bhi khutum ho gai to teraa naam lenian wala koi bhi is duniya main baqee nahin rahie ga

[8] [Aur Allah bader Ki Ladaai Main Tumhari Madad Kar Chukaa Hei Halanke Tum Kamzoar The Pass --Allah Se Daro Ta K Tum Shukar Karo.{Surah # 3 Ale-Imran Aiyat # 123}]

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Ji....

[9][Jiss Waqt Tum Darie Kinare per The Aur Woh Parle Kinare per Aur Qaflaa Tum Se Niche Utar Gayaa Tha Aur Ager Tum Appas Maion Wadah Karte To 1 Sath Wadah per Na Pohanchte Lekin Allah Ko 1 Kaam Karna Tha Jo Muqarar Ho Chuka Tha Taa K Jo Halaak Woh Itmaam e Hujat K Baad Halaak Ho AUr Jo Zindda Rahei Woh Itmaam hujjat K Bad Zindah Rahe Aur Be Shuck Allah Sunnain Wala Jannei Wala Hei.{Surah # 8 Anfal Aiyat # 42}]

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Noor Ya Basher.....

 

[1]-[Ya Teire Pass Koi Sonain Ka Gher Ho Ya To Aasmaan Per Chadh Jai Aur Hum To Teire Chadhnain ka Bhi Yaqeen NahiN Kareingge Yehaan Tuck K To HUmare Pass Iessi Kitaab Laai Jise Hum BHi Padh Sakein Keh Do Maira Rabb Paak Hei Main To Faqat 1 Bhaija Hua Insaan Hoon.{Surah # 17 Al-Isra Aiyat 93}]

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[2][Aur Logon Ko Emaan Lanain Se Jub K In K Pass Hidayat Agaee Sirf Issi Cheez Nain Rokaa Hei K Kehnain Lage Kiya Allah Nain Admee Ko Rasool Banaa Ker Bhaijja Hei.{Surah # 17 Al-Isra Aiyat # 94}]

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[3][in k Rasoolon Nain Kahaa Kiya Tumhain Allah Main Shuck Hei Jiss Nain Asmaan Aur Zamen Banaai Woh Tumhein Bulata Hei Taa K Tumhare Kuch Gunah Bakhshnain Aur Tumhein 1 muqararah Waqt Tuck Mohlat De Unhon Nain Kahaa Tum Bhi To Humare Jeisse Insaan Ho Tum Chahte Ho K Humain In Cheezon Se Rock Do Jinhain Humare Baap Dada Poojte Rahe So Koi Khulaa Hua Moajzaa Laao.{Surah # 14 Ibraheem Aiyat # 10}]

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[4][in Se In K Rasoolon Nain kahaa Zaroor Hum BHi Tumhare Jaisse Hi Aadmee Hein Leikin Allah Apnain Bandon Main Jiss Per Chahta Ho Ahsaan Kartaa Hei Aur Humara Kaam Nahin K HUm Allah Ki Ijazat K Siwaa Tumhein Ki Moajzah Laa Ker Dikhain Aur Eman Walon Ka Bharossa ilahee(Allah) Per Honaa Chahye.{Surah # 14 Ibraheem # 11}]

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[5][[Aur In Se Bastee Walon Ka Haal Misaal K Tore Per Biyaan Kar Jub K In K Pas Rasool Aaie,Unhon NainKahaa Tum Kuch Aur Nahin Ho Mager Humare Taraf Insaan Ho Aur Rehmaan Nain Koi Cheez Nahin Utaree Tum Aur Kuch Nahin Ho Jhoot Boal Rahe Ho.{Suerah # 36 Ya Seen Aiyat # 13,15}]

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[6][Phirr HUm nain Moosa Aur Is K Bhai Haroon Ko Apnee Nishaniyaan Aur KHuli Sanad De Kar, Firoan Aur Is K Sardar K pass Bhaijja Phirr Unhon Nain Takabbur Kiya Aur Woh Sarkash Loag The, Phirr Kahaa Kiya HUm Apnain Jeisse Do Shakson Per Emaan Lain Jin Ki Qoam Humari Ghulami Kar Rahee Ho.{Surah # 23 Mominoon Aiyat 45,46,47}]

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[7][Kehnain Lagaa K Tum Per To Kissi nain Jadoo Ker Diyaa, Aur Too Bhi Hum Jeissa 1 Admee hei Aur HUmare Khaiyaal Main Too To Jhota Hei, So Hum Per Asman Ka Koi Tukdaa Giraa De Ager To Sachaa Hei.{Surah # 26 Ash-Shuara Aiyat # 185,186,187}]

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[8][Aur HUm Nain Tum Se Pehele Bhi To Admion Hi Ko Rasool Banaa Kar Bhaijja Tha In Ki Taraf Hum Wahee Bhaijja karte The Ager Tum nahin Jantte To ilm Walon Se Pooch Lo.{Surah # 21 Ambiya Aiyat # 7}]

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[9][Keh Do K Main Bhi Tumhare Jeissa Aadmee Hon Mairi Taraf Wahee Ki Jati hei K Tumhara Mabood 1 Hi Mabood Hei Phirr Jo Koi Apnain Eabb Se Milnain Ki Ummed Rakhe To Isse Chahye K Ache Kaam Kare Aur APnain Rabb Ki Ibadat main Kissi Ko Shareek Na Banai.{Surah # 18 Kahaf Aiyat # 110}]

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[10][Aap In Se Keh Dein K Main Bhi Tum Jeissa 1 Aadmee Hoon Mairi Taraf Yehi Hukum Aata Hei K Tumahra Mabod 1 Hi hei Phirr Is Ki Taraf Seedhe Chale Jaao Aur Is Se Mouaffe Mango Aur Mushriko K Lyein Halaakat Hei{Surah # 41 Fussilat Aiyat # 6}]

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[11][Keh Do Ager Zameen main Farishte ITminaan Se Chalte Phirte Hotei TO Hum Asmaan Se In Per Farishtaa Hi Rasool Banaa Kar Bhaijtei.{Surah # 17 Isra Aiyat # 95}]

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[12][A In Ki Nassal Jinhein Hum Nain Nooh K Sath Sawar Kiya Tha Be SHuck Woh SHukar Guzaar Bandah Tha.{Surah # 17 Isra Aiyat # 3}][12]

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[13][Ya Terie Pass Koi Sonain Ka Gher Ho Ya Too Aasmaan per Chadh Jaai Aur HUm To Terie Chadhnain Ka BHi Yaqen Nahin Kareingge Yehaan Tuck K Too HUmare Pass Aeissi Kitaab Laai Jisse Hum BHi padh Sakeingge Keh Do Maira Rabb paak Hei Main To Faqat 1 Bhaijja Hua Insaan Hoon.{Surah # 17 Isra Aiyat # 93}]

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[14]Nain Emaan Walon Per Ehssan Kiya Hei Jo In Main Unheen Mian Se Rasool Bhaijja In Per Is ki Aaiytein Padhtaa Hei Aur Unhein paak Kartaa Hei Aur Unhein Kitaab Aur Danish SIkhata hei Ager Cha Woh Is Se Pehle Sareeh Gumhrahee Main The.{Surah # 3 Ale-imran Aiyat # 164}]

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[15]Jaissei K Nain Tum Main 1 Rasool Tum Hi Main Se Bhajja Jo Tum Per Humari Ayatein Padhtaa Hei Aur Tumhein Paak Kartaa hei Aur Tumhein Kitaab Aur Danaai Sikhata Hei Aur Tumhein Sikhata Hei Jo Tum Nahin Jantte Thei.{Surah # 2 Baqarah Aiyat 151}]

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Ji Junaab Kiya Farmatei Hein Is K Barei Main .. Abhi To Sirf Main Nein Quran Se Hi Bat Kareee hei Sunna Aur Suahaba k Ajmaa To Yehaan Likha Hi Nahin......!!!!!!!

 

 

Aur please ub ager aap ki post karein to us main aiyat aur hadith ka refrence de dein please.. pora hawala jis tarhaan main nain diya hei ... SHukriyaa

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Alim-ul-GHaib Allah(SWT) Ya Phirr Rasool(SAW)

 

Isko Dosrey Topic Mein Post Kerein Wahan Inka Jawab Diya Jaye Ga...

 

 

Noor Ya Basher.....

 

Aap Ney Likha ... Noor ya Bashar

 

Suwal: Kiya Noor Aur Bashar Aik Dosrey Ki Zidd Hain?

 

Aur Bashar Ka Jawab Aachuka Key (al) Hamarey Sarkar (saw) Ko Bashar Mantey Hain.. Aur Allah (azw) Ka Abd wa Rasool (saw) Mantey Hain... Aur Jo Aapko Bashar Na Maney Woh Kafir Hai.. Hum Sarkar (saw) Ko Afzal-ul-Bashar Mantey Hain Aur Bashar Key Sath Noor Bhi Mantey Hain.. Aap Woh Aayat wa Hadees Pesh Kerein Jis Sey Noor Ki Nafi Hoti Hoo... Bashar Honey Ki Daleel Nhin.. Kiyon Key Bashar Hum Bhi Mantey Hain...

 

Aap Suwal Ka Jawab Aur Noor Honey Ki Nafi Per Daleel Pesh Ker Dein Phir Hum Dalail Dein Gey.. (ia)

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