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Imam Bukhari (ra) ne jo itna careful ho kar Hadis ikhti keen 600,000 main se sirf 6000 se kuch ziada issue ki. Kya os ko khbar nahi thi ke ye "Ishaq" Jhootha hai ya yahoodi hai. Os te foruan os ki hadis ko apni book ki zeenat bana liya. Or aaj centuries ke baat aap Imam Malik ka hawala de rehe ho ke wo Yahoodi tha.

 

Aap ko kuch pata hai ke Imam Bukhari (ra) Imam Malik balkay Imam Abu Hanifa (ra) ke bhi baad aye.

 

Phir ye jhoot kyon bola ja raha?

 

Daleel se baat karo bhai. Agar daleel nahi to Khudara aitraazaat kar ke Gunahgaar na bun jao. Allah tumharay haal pe reham kare

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Imam Bukhari ne jo itna careful ho kar Hadis ikhti keen 600,000 main se sirf 6000 se kuch ziada issue ki. Kya os ko khbar nahi thi ke ye "Ishaq" Jhootha hai ya yahoodi hai. Os te foruan os ki hadis ko apni book ki zeenat bana liya. Or aaj centuries ke baat aap Imam Malik ka hawala de rehe ho ke wo Yahoodi tha.

 

Aap ko kuch pata hai ke Imam Bukhari Imam Malik balkay Imam Abu Hanifa ke bhi baad aye.

 

Phir ye jhoot kyon bola ja raha?

 

Daleel se baat karo bhai. Agar daleel nahi to Khudara aitraazaat kar ke Gunahgaar na bun jao. Allah tumharay haal pe reham kare

 

YE MERAY SAWAL KA JAWAB NAHI, OR AGAR USOOL E HADEES PARH LETAY TO BETA YE BAAT OR SAWAL NA KARTAY, DOOSRA TUMHARA MUFTI AZAM BHI ISSAY SHIA MAN CHUKA HAI, MAIN NAY QADRIYA LIKHA THA.

 

JUB HI KEHTAY HAIN PEHLAY POORI POST PARH LO, PHIR JAWAB DO, LAKIN KUCH LOOGOON KO BAR BAR BEIZZAT HONAY SHOAQ HOTA HAI.

 

DALEEL SAY TO TUM BAAT KARO, JAWAB HAI TO LAO DALEEL, LIKH MERAY HAR BAAT KA JAWAB, LAO EESI KOI RIWAYAT JISS MAIN YE HO KAH YE DOONOON SURAH QURAN MAIN THEEN OR BAAD MAIN INHAIN NIKAL DIA GAYA.

 

ABHI TO PUTTER PEHLI HI THREAD KA JAWAB TUM LOOGOON SAY NAHI DIA JA RAHA, ISS KA PART TO BHI HAI.

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Just shame on you

 

Ab chhhay mujha ban bhi kar do na

 

Magar yaad rakho!! Allah or Rasoolallah ko gawah kar ke main kasam kha raha hoon ke barz-e-kiamat tumhara girebaan parkron ga ke to tum ne mujhe nahak ilam or daleel ke beghair beizzat kya.

 

Ab main ziada der es forum main rehen wala nahi jahaan gali galooch hoti ho. Agar itni himmat or hosla hota to har cheez ko khule din se sunante. Gaaliyaan na baknay lagte.

 

Tum ne kya khaak kisi ko tableegh karni hai. Ye hai Aala Hazrat (as) ka sabak tum ko doosro ko laanti kahte phiro.

 

Meri aik bhi post main check kar ke bata do ke main ne kisi ko abuse kiya ho.

 

Yaad rakho "Achha ikhlaak achhay khoon ki nishani hai" or tumhara ikhlaak to khuda ki panah.

 

Laanatullahi Alal Kaazebeen!!

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ABAY TO KYA PARRAY GA JIN KI TO NAY GHUSTAKHI KI HAI UN KI IZZAT KI KASAM , ALLAH AZZAWAJAL TUJHAH DUNYA MAIN JALD KUTTAY KI MOOT DIKHA DEGA, TO IBRAT BAN JAYE GA, SAHABA KA GHUSTAKH NABI KA GHUTAKH OR JO NABI KA GHUSTAKH WO ALLAH KA GHUSTAKH, OR JO ALLAH KA GHUSTKAH WO JHANUMI HAI.

 

HAAN ALAHAZRAT RADI ALLAH ANHU KA HI SABAQ HAI:

 

MAN SHAKKA FI KUFRIHI WA AZAABIHI FAQAD KAFARA

 

JISS NAY IN KAY KUFUR OR AZAB MAIN SHAK KIA WO BHI KAFIR.

 

JAO YE EBARAT KISI BHI BRELVI ALIM SAY POOCH LENA.

 

TO NAY ANBIYA ALAIHIMUSSALAM KO GUNAHGAR NAHI KAHA ,

 

JA DOOBARA PARH MATAM WALI APNI AJJ KI POST.

 

TUM SAY KISS NAY KAHA KAH HUM YAHAN TUM JESAY GHUSTAKHOON KO TABLEEG KAR RAHAY HAIN, HUM TO YAHAN TUM JESAY LOGOON KI ASLIAT DEKHANAY KAY LYE BEHTAY HAIN.

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Imran Bhai buhat he acha jawab dia aap nain.

Aur Sitaragroup tu kya kisi ka giraiban pakray ga qyamat main.Agar tu nain tauba na ke tu Insha Allah qayamat main is sab habeeson k saath he uthay ga aur in k saath ke jahanum ke aag main jalay ga.

Aur humain koi parwah nahin hay is lia ke humaray Ala Hazrat Imam e AhleSunnat R.A nain kya he hoob farmaya hay!!!!!

Tujh say aur jannat say kya matlab munafiq door ho

Hum Rasool Ullah k jannat Rasool Ullah ke (saw)

Qayamat main Insha Allah sab pata chal jay ga.O a tum Huzoor e Akram Sal Allah o Alaih e Wasalam aur Ahle bait aur Sahaba e Kiram (ra) ko kya jawab do gay ke dunya main main aap ke gustakhi karta raha.Allah say moafi maango aur tauba karo.

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JAZAK ALLAH, JAD DUL MUKHTAR BHAI, BOHAT ZABARDAST JAWABAT DIY HAIN APP NAY,,

AUR SITARA SAHB,, AGAR APP NAY ISS FORUM SAY BAGNA HEE HAI,, TO Bahan bananay ki kai zarroorat hai,, saf saf kaho kah,, jawabat nahee hain,, iss liya bagh raha hon,,

aur hamian kahtay ho ko hum batamzeez hain, aray tum nay apnay gareeban main jahnak kar dekha hai,, tum kitnay battameez ho,, quran main ALLAH (azw) FARMATA HAI KAH "ISS QURAN KI HIFAZAT HUM NAY APNAY ZIMAY LI HAI"(Allah kami bachee maff kary).LAKIN SHIA AQAID KAY MUTABIQ QURAN TABDEEL HO CHUKA HAI,, TAHREEF HO GAYEE HAI QURAN MAIN,,,,,,,,,,, TO KIA TUM NAY YEA BAAT KAH KAR ALLAH KAY QOOL KO GALAT NAHEE KAHA,, ZARA SOCH KAR BATAYOO,, AUR KHUWA MA KHUWA MAI BAGNAY KAY BAHANAY NA TALASH KARO,,,

JAWAB DENA HAI TO DALEEL KAY SATH JAWAB DO... WARNA CHUP CHAP SHAKAST TASLEEM KARO AUR BAG LO.

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ya bhagora Mufti phari aa gaya mera samna

beta bhool gaya ka tumjha tera apni Community main ganda kya tha asi baat par jo tu na tehreef Quran humari taraf mansub ki thi yahan bhi wohi hawala pesh karta hon.

فكان الفرض الاول وجوب ثبات الواحد للعشرة، فنسخ بثبوت الواحد للاثنين، وغير ذلك من الاي المنسوخ، حكمها، وتلاوتها ثابتة، كآية العدة، واية حبس من يأتي بالفاحشة، وغير ذلك

والثاني ـ كآية الرجم. قيل انها كانت منزلة فرفع لفظها وبقي حكمها.

والثالث ـ هو مجوّز وان لم يقطع بانه كان. وقد روي عن ابي بكر انه كان يقرأ لا ترغبوا عن آبائكم فانه كفر

المعنى:

واختلفوا في كيفية النسخ على أربعة اوجه:

قال قوم: يجوز نسخ الحكم والتلاوة من غير افراد واحد منهما عن الآخر.

وقال آخرون: يجوز نسخ الحكم دون التلاوة.

http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=4&tTafsirNo=39&tSoraNo=2&tAyahNo=106&tDisplay=yes&UserProfile=0&LanguageId=1

ap ki as rawiyat ka mutabiq Rajam wali ayat Allah na mansukh ut Talawat kar di.tum logon ka tu kaam hi yahi hai ka mansukh ayaton ka sahra hum par tehreef ka ilzam lagao.

ya tu sirf aik hawala hai asa bashumar hawala hain jin main Sahba kiram ki baatian clear ho jati hain ka wo mansukh ut Talawat ki baat kar raha tha.

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Chalo ya kah kar tum khud hi phans gai.

aab chand ayat ko hi dekh lo ka tumhara mazhab main in ayat ko mana jata hai ya nahi.

"Bashak Allah Mominon sa Razi ho gia jabka wo darkhat ka necha bait kar raha tha aur jo kuch in ka dilon main hai os sa agah hai phair os na in par taskeen nazal ki aur in ko qareef ki aik fatah.(Surah Fatah ayat 18 mutarjam Shia Maqbool)

Allah sab sahaba sa razi hai jinhon na bait ki darkhat ka necha phair tum kyon nahi as par razi.

وقوله { لقد رضي الله عن المؤمنين إذا يبايعونك تحت الشجرة } إخبار من الله تعالى انه رضي عن الذين بايعوا تحت الشجرة النبي صلى الله عليه وآله وكانوا مؤمنين فى الوقت الذي بايعوه { فعلم ما في قلوبهم } من إيمان ونفاق فرضي عن المؤمنين وسخط على المنافقين. وقيل معناه فعلم ما في قلوبهم من صدق النية في القتال وكراهتهم له، لانه بايعهم على القتال - ذكره مقاتل - { فأنزل السكينة عليهم } يعني على المؤمنين، والسكينة الصبر لقوة البصيرة { وأثابهم فتحاً قريباً } قال قتادة وابن أبي ليلى: يعني فتح خيبر وقال قوم: فتح مكة { ومغانم كثيرة يأخذونها } فالغيمة ملك أموال اهل الحرب من المشركين بالقهر والغلبة فى حكمه تعالى، وكان القتال من أجلها. و (المغانم) ها هنا يراد به غنائم خيبر.

http://altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=4&tTafsirNo=39&tSoraNo=48&tAyahNo=18&tDisplay=yes&Page=3&Size=1&LanguageId=1

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wo tu jo bhi kahian ga os ki kasa parwa hai tumhari rawiyat kya kahti hain khud dekh lo.

Aik kitaab tu in ki asi hai ka kahti hai ka Pakistan ka naam humara Quran main hai phari Zulfiqar kahta hai ka Quran main Tehreef ka aqida humara nahi hai.akhri main as baat ka inker ka Nabuwat Huzoor Alihsalam ko malni thi.Balkay Mazullah yahan ya sabit kya ja raha hia ka Huzoor alihsalam na Nabuwat ghasb kar li aur on ka mawin tha Jabrail.

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janab mujhay apsoess k app nay apnay ferqawarana taassub ki waja se mary post nai phari werna app ye sab post na krtay.(kyun k iss bakwass ka jawab mary phali post may hi hay).

ommat-e-muslima ka iss bat per itafak hay k threef-e-Quran ka akida rhaknay walay logh 700 sal phaly apnay aqiday k sath dafan hochkay hain(pta nai app kis zamanay k ho).

mari bat to ap mano gay nai lakin apnay onn aalimon k baray kya khyal hay jin ka kol ap k liay hughat hay.

 

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islam ki puri Emarat ka bass aakri stoon(Quran) hi to baki rehh gaya hay jis per puri ummat ka itafaq hay iss stoon ko khokhla krnay walay dimako'n

ka sath na dayna ye app ka islam pr ak bohat bara ahsaan hoga

me bohat se majooda Shia Hazrat se waqif hon jo Quran na mukamil samaj tehen jin ke nazdeeq Quran me 40 supare the or woh kam kar ke 30 kardye gae muje ye batao tom kitne sunni Hazrat se waqif ho jo majooda Quran ko apni asal shakal me nahi maan te,or tomara un Shiao ke bare me kya khyal he jo Quran me Tehreef ke qail hen kya tom unko Kaffer girante hon ke nahi? hamre nazdeeq har woh shakh jo Quran me kisi kisam ka naqs ,zyada ya majooda Quran ko apne asal shakal me na maane woh Kaffer he

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islam ki puri Emarat ka bass aakri stoon(Quran) hi to baki rehh gaya hay jis per puri ummat ka itafaq hay iss stoon ko khokhla krnay walay dimako'n

ka sath na dayna ye app ka islam pr ak bohat bara ahsaan hoga

 

tu janab jaldi kajiya aur kha di jaye ka Qurna main jo UmmulMomineen likha hai tu main Huzoor Alihsalam ki tamam Azwaj ko apni maa samjhta hon aur utna ahtram bhi karta hona aur Quran na jo kaha ka Bait Rizwan wala sahaba ko jannati bhi manta hon.Ya mera challange hai tumhain sirf Quran ki in do batoan ko maan lo.

Tumhari Shiayat khud khtam ho jai ga.

warna main tumhari Tafseer main os ayat main dekha sakta hon ka Azwaj ki tazeem wajib hai.

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me bohat se majooda Shia Hazrat se waqif hon jo Quran na mukamil samaj tehen jin ke nazdeeq Quran me 40 supare the or woh kam kar ke 30 kardye gae muje ye batao tom kitne sunni Hazrat se waqif ho jo majooda Quran ko apni asal shakal me nahi maan te,or tomara un Shiao ke bare me kya khyal he jo Quran me Tehreef ke qail hen kya tom unko Kaffer girante hon ke nahi? hamre nazdeeq har woh shakh jo Quran me kisi kisam ka naqs ,zyada ya majooda Quran ko apne asal shakal me na maane woh Kaffer he

 

mughay iss bat ki kushee hay app nay ye to mana k saray shia aalem threef k qail nai hain.

laykin mughay iss bat ka shadeed apsos hay k app ko musalman or kaffer

may ferq jasi basic bat ka b elam nai.mughay to laghta hay k app threef ka sahi matlab b nai pata...! phlay ja kr apni kitabon se is ka pta keray'n.

 

 

 

ab may app ko app k aalemo'n ki bate'n post krta huwa aacha nai tu laghta.

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tu janab jaldi kajiya aur kha di jaye ka Qurna main jo UmmulMomineen likha hai tu main Huzoor Alihsalam ki tamam Azwaj ko apni maa samjhta hon aur utna ahtram bhi karta hona aur Quran na jo kaha ka Bait Rizwan wala sahaba ko jannati bhi manta hon.Ya mera challange hai tumhain sirf Quran ki in do batoan ko maan lo.

Tumhari Shiayat khud khtam ho jai ga.

warna main tumhari Tafseer main os ayat main dekha sakta hon ka Azwaj ki tazeem wajib hai.

 

tu iss ka mtalab may ye shamjo'n k app mari iss bat ko mantay ho k

 

threef-e-Quran kisi muslman ka "AQIDA" nai hay.

 

plz han ya na may jawadayna(mazeed kuch post krnai ho to "ehtaram-e-sahaba aur azwaj-e-RASOOL" K namse ak naya topic start kro.)

 

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mughay iss bat ki kushee hay app nay ye to mana k saray shia aalem threef k qail nai hain.

laykin mughay iss bat ka shadeed apsos hay k app ko musalman or kaffer

may ferq jasi basic bat ka b elam nai.mughay to laghta hay k app threef ka sahi matlab b nai pata...! phlay ja kr apni kitabon se is ka pta keray'n.

ab may app ko app k aalemo'n ki bate'n post krta huwa aacha nai tu laghta.

Main na balkul mana ka wo tehreef ka Zahiri tur par qail nahi kyon ka aap ka deen main Taqiyah buhut Zaroori hai.

Janab mujha Muslim aur kafir ka farq ka baray main ziyda bhala sa pata na ho likin itna zaroor pata hai ka Allah aur Rasool ki gustakhi kufur hain jo ka Shia karta hain.

Janab tehreef ka sahi matlab kya hai ya aab wo batain ga jo khud tehreef ka qail hian.....Mujah maloom hia ka meri kitaabon main kya likha hia likin aap khud ja kar pata karo apni kitaabon sa yahan tak ka hadees ki mustanad kitaabon sa ka tehreef hoi ya nahi.

janab likin main jo aap ka alimon ki di hoi post kar raha hon os par aap ka koi dehan hi nahi hai.

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mughay iss bat ki kushee hay app nay ye to mana k saray shia aalem threef k qail nai hain.

laykin mughay iss bat ka shadeed apsos hay k app ko musalman or kaffer

may ferq jasi basic bat ka b elam nai.mughay to laghta hay k app threef ka sahi matlab b nai pata...! phlay ja kr apni kitabon se is ka pta keray'n.

 

 

 

ab may app ko app k aalemo'n ki bate'n post krta huwa aacha nai tu laghta.

janab sida sa sawal kya tha ap se or ap bat ko tur mur kar pesh kar rahe ho mene pocha kya ap un logo ko musalman samaj te ho jo Quran ko apni asal shakal me nahi maan te hen,baray merbahani jawab irsal kye jae

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Main na balkul mana ka wo tehreef ka Zahiri tur par qail nahi kyon ka aap ka deen main Taqiyah buhut Zaroori hai.

Janab mujha Muslim aur kafir ka farq ka baray main ziyda bhala sa pata na ho likin itna zaroor pata hai ka Allah aur Rasool ki gustakhi kufur hain jo ka Shia karta hain.

Janab tehreef ka sahi matlab kya hai ya aab wo batain ga jo khud tehreef ka qail hian.....Mujah maloom hia ka meri kitaabon main kya likha hia likin aap khud ja kar pata karo apni kitaabon sa yahan tak ka hadees ki mustanad kitaabon sa ka tehreef hoi ya nahi.

janab likin main jo aap ka alimon ki di hoi post kar raha hon os par aap ka koi dehan hi nahi hai.

bahi khabi mari post b pher liya kro.

 

tu iss ka mtalab may ye shamjo'n k app mari iss bat ko mantay ho k

 

threef-e-Quran kisi muslman ka "AQIDA" nai hay.

 

plz han ya na may jawadayna.aap ka aalem kab se tkya krnay lagh gaye

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