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Whether any one is aware of Shaykh Nuh Hah Mim Keller.


I have read one article written by him refuting Hussam ul Harmain & defending Kufr of Gangohi , Thanvi & Khalil Ambhetvi.


I want to know whether this article was responded by any Sunni scholar or not. What is the motive behind writing such article.


If yes please share that response.



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(salam) Shaykh Nuh Hah Mim Keller


Shaykh Nuh Ha Mim Keller (born 1954) is a American Muslim translator of Islamic books and a specialist in Islamic Law as well as an authorised shaykh in tasswauf in the Shadhili Sufi order and in the Shafi`i Madhhab who currently lives in Amman, Jordan.



Keller was born in 1954 in the Northwestern United States of America and grew up in the small town of Odessa, Washington in eastern Washington state. He was educated in philosophy and Arabic at the University of Chicago and University of California at Los Angeles. He converted to Islam in 1977 at al-Azhar in Cairo,[citation needed] and later studied the Islamic sciences of hadith (Prophetic traditions), Shafi'i and Hanafi schools of Islamic jurisprudence, legal methodology (usul al-fiqh), and tenets of faith (`aqidah) in Syria and Jordan, where he has lived since 1980.[citation needed]


He also has a ijaza in Haith from the Saudi Arabian hadith scholar Shaykh Muhammad ‘Alawi al-Maliki, which authorizes him to relate "all the chains of transmission that I [Muhammad ‘Alawi al-Maliki] have been authorized to relate by my sheikhs," including chains of transmission reaching back to the hadith Imams Malik, al-Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawud, al-Tirmidhi, al-Nasa’i, Ibn Majah (Mecca: Muhammad ‘Alawi al-Maliki, 1412/1992).He was authorised as a sheikh in the Shadhili Tariqa by the late Abd al-Rahman al-Shaghouri al-Shadhili in Damascus. He has students throughout the world, and has annual retreats (suhbas) with his students where he teaches tasswauf in Canada, USA, UK, Turkey, Australia, Egypt, and Pakistan.




His English translation of Umdat al-Salik, Reliance of the Traveller, (Sunna Books, 1991) is a Shafi'i manual of Shariah . It is the first Islamic legal work in a European language to receive the certification of Al-Azhar University.


His other works include:


  • Al-Maqasid : Imam Nawawi's Manual of Islam, a translation of a concise manual of Shafi'i fiqh

  • A Port in the Storm: A Fiqh Solution to the Qibla of North America, a detailed study of the most sound position on which direction North American Muslims should face to pray

  • The Sunni Path: A Handbook of Islamic Belief

  • Evolution Theory in Islam

  • Tariqa Notes, a small handbook for those following the Shadhili Sufi order.

He has also written numerous articles and is a regular contributor to Islamica Magazine. He is currently translating Imam Nawawi's Kitab al-Adhkar (The Book of Remembrance of Allah), a compendium of some 1227 hadiths on prayers and dhikrs of the prophetic sunnah.

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Whether any one is aware of Shaykh Nuh Hah Mim Keller.


I have read one article written by him refuting Hussam ul Harmain & defending Kufr of Gangohi , Thanvi & Khalil Ambhetvi.


I want to know whether this article was responded by any Sunni scholar or not. What is the motive behind writing such article.


If yes please share that response.






Shaykh Nuh keller does not read urdu and was given wrong information by deobandis.For example shaykh nuh said Imam Ahmed Raza Khan (rh) was the first to use this term"imkan e kidhb". This is wrong , as we know it was used by the deobandis. This error along with other mistakes were highlighted long back on different forums.


Also the stand which shaykh Nuh keller has taken with regard to imkan e kidhb is no where found in Ashari or Maturidi text.

This was also pointed on other forums.


Shaykh Nuh also wrote that the deobandi "akabir" did not deliberately wrote those statements which shows disresoect to prophet (saw) . This was another mistake from shaykh Nuh which was refuted by quoting a fatwa from deobandi scholar Shaykh Rashid Ahmed gangohi.


In short everyhting has been refuted .


Insha Allah soon , everything will be compiled and presented under one topic.


It will be posted on www.islamieducation.com/en


( refutation section)


Shaykh Nuh should have made contacts with Ahlus sunnah scholars of subcontinent who know the isseu in detail. Shaykh Nuh relied totally on deobandis , whom we know are famous for tampering books and providing wrong information about their sect to people out side subcontinent.


Insha Allah , very soon this issue will be addressed on www.islamieducation.com



Abdullah Chisti

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Assalamu alaykum. The basic requirement before pronouncing a judgement related to 2 groups is that both parties should be present, and both parties shall give its views on the issue of conflict. Only after that a judge can give its judgement on the matter. Now the question is; did Nuh Keller follow this rule? Or did he just give his judgement after hearing the case from a deobandi viewpoint? I want the readers to find out.

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I had a debate over this issue a few months ago, the most intense one ever and been declared Gustakh-e-Rasool (saw) by some so-called sunnis. If you've read Nuh Keller's article, read it again and you may find him lacking a lot of information on this issue, like hilariously, he dont even know whether Ala Hazrat sent Hassam-ul-Harmain to Ulema-e-Hijaz for endorsement or took al-Mu’tamad al’mustanadd personally to Harmayn Sharif and yet he finds himself suitable to comment such an intense issue. In conclusion he and his creed thinks that fatwas of Hassam-ul-Harmain is not valid anymore and they consider the 4 If you read his article you'll know he got nothing but Al'Muhinnd in defense of deobandies which has been successfully refuted since ages. I dont want to start a debate over this again. To me this is just an another Sullah-e-Kulli group, so here is the scholarly response to Nuh Keller.


There are also sadly some illogical & unsubstantiated remarks by the Shaykh (Nuh) to which we will give him the benefit of doubt for since it is highly likely such comments perhaps were inspired by the adversaries of the Ahl as-Sunnah w’al Jama’ah.


The author of the fatwa incriminates himself by his own set principles from the blasphemy which Nûh Hâ Mîm set out to justify and defend.


These are the statements from the Ulema & Mashaikh-e-Haqq of Jamat-e-Ahle'Sunnat (UK). Follow the link below for complete response.



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Many thanks.


Its very heartbreaking to see Sh Nuh Keller deviating from Ahlus Sunnah core undisputed faiths. I dont know what was the compelling force that invoke such a childish article. Some people say he is surrounded by Deobandis, they misguide & confuse him about their own reality & have created confusions about real sunnis of subcontinent.

May be some learnt sunni approach him with evidences to bring him into the light of Truth from darkness of Deobandies deception.

It will be great if some Dawat e Islami brother of UK do this remarkable DAWAH work.

He must be conveyed that deobandis are indeed a subsect of wahabiya & have nothing to do with Ahlus Sunnah. To convey him that akabir deobandis (Gangohi & Thanvi) have praised Ibne Abdul wahab najdi work.

He must be conveyed that Kitab ut Touheed of Ibne Abdul wahab najdi is also a primary aqaid book of deobandis in the form of notorious translation of Ismaeel Dehlvi , named as Taqwiat ul Emaan.

(Among subcontinent wahabiya the book "Taqwiat ul Emman" has earned the status of "Bible" in both ghair muqalid & deobandis wahabi)

To convey him that as per authentic deobandi believes he (Sh Nuh) also falls in the category of Mushrik & biddati. This i have said bc Sh nuh Keller practices Mawlid un Nabi (saw) , consider seeking help from Auliya permissible , tawassul & Proclaiming YaRasoollalah as admissible.



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I think Shaykh Nuh Hah Mim Keller had good intentions, but as he didn't knew Urdu, so regarding the conflict between Barelvi's and Deobandi's, he got most of his information from someone else (as I was told), but I don't think he really understood what all this conflict was about. But his intention was just to bring Barelvi's and deobandi's together. But honestly saying, that article was unintentionally inaccurate, as I think he was mis-informed regarding many issues.

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Who is/was misinformed,??????????????????

Who is/was be misquoted, ???????????????

who is/was be of misintention, ??????????

who is/was be doing badgumani, ????????????

Who is/was be misinterpreted??????????????

















Requesting for dua.

Dr. Muhammad Faiz Akram



Faisla Haft Masla

(Decision on Seven Controversial Religious Issues)


Haji Imdad Ullah

Translation By By A. Mughal

Chapter 1-Preface

Alhamdo lilahay nahamdo wa nastaeno wa nastaghfaro wa nomino behee wala tawakalo wa naooz billahay min sharoor-e-un fosayna wamin saeyat-e-amalayna min yohdi Allah fala mudil lahoo wa min yohdil lalah fala hadi alla wa nashhado an lailaha il Allah wahda hoo la sharik ala hoo wa nashhado ana sayedna wa maulana Mohammad an abda hoo wa Rasulo (Sallal laahu alaihi wasallam).

I, Imdad Ullah, Hanafi, Muhajir Makki, Allah's humble servant wish to emphasise to all Muslims in general and my associates in particular





that the unity amongst us Muslims is the real key for our worldly progress and for getting the Divinely Blessings. Unfortunately, certain Religous matters have become a bone of contention among the Muslim ummah these days. This is resulting in Muslim scholars wasting their precious time and energy on the one hand and the detonation of Deen of the Muslim Ummah on the other hand. But in actual fact, in most of these so called controversial matters, the differences lie not in the essence but only in the wording and expression.



Being desperately concerned at the frustration these matters have caused to my associates in particular and to our Muslim ummah in general, I deeply felt the need to write and publish a booklet concerning these matters with a firm hope that the present prevailing arguments and controversies will come to an end. Though at present there are many controversial matters but I have picked up only those in which my associates differ. There are two reasons for this. Firstly, the controversial matters are so numerous that it is difficult to cover them all and that there is least likelihood that my explanation will be accepted by scholars other than my associates. Secondly, the differences among my associates are only in a few matters and there is every likelihood that my point of view will be accepted by my associates.


The matter in which my associates mostly argue are only seven, five of which involve Islamic practises while the other two come under belief. The order of preference in which these matters are being discussed is based upon their level of controversy. I have also mentioned the righteous practice and my practice in these disputed matters. I pray to Allah Almighty that this attempt of mine becomes the tool in eradicating the controversies and quarrels among Muslims. Furthermore, persons other than my associates who also accept it and benefit from it, are requested to pray for me. I also wish to mention that nobody should waste energies in publishing answers refuting my deliberations because I do not want to enter into any dialogue whatsoever.





Chapter 7-Imkan-e- Nazir and Imkan-e- Kazab


(Imkan-e-Nazir i.e Allah creating replicas of someone. Imkan-e-Kazab i.e Allah is capable of lies)

If anyone wants to investigate these matters in details, one cannot do it without grassroots research of the underlying wisdom of the various facts relating to these matters. Since the matters are very delicate, one should believe in two things. The first is the Ayat, " In'Allah ha a'la kule Sheyin Qadeer... Sura Nahl, Ayat 77" i.e., "Allah hath power over all things". The second is Ayat, " Subhan Allah he ama yasayfoon ... Sura Muminun, Ayat 91 " i.e., "Allah is free of all defects and vice". The nearest meanings (which apply here) are not to contradict one's own statement or give information about something which in reality does not exist etc. etc.

It is not our responsibility to investigate which things come under first Ayat over which Allah be considered to have the power nor about things which come under defects and vice from which Allah be considered to be free under the second Ayat, specially when the evidences are conflicting. In view of the delicate nature of these matters, it won't be surprising if discussions or investigations in these matters is forbidden. Take for example the matter of "Fate".

The Holy Prophet (Sallal laahu alaihi wasallam) has strictly forbidden to discuss this matter because of the complications involved in it. On the same basis, when these matters are so complicated because of the opposing intellectual and written evidences, there would be no justification for permission to talk about or discuss these matters.

One of my associates had a dream relating to these matters which I really liked very much. There is no other better way of resolving these matters. If, anyone has the habit of discussing these matters, one should do in privacy. If someone wants to do written arguments, it should be done through letters and not through books or magazines. If someone is very fond of writing, he should be doing in Arabic so that the general public does not get frustrated. It is imperative that these matters are not discussed in public.




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