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Janab e Aali main Ja Al Haq Book ka original page attach kar raha hon aap is main hud daikhain keh Sajid Khan Deobandi nain kis tarah buhtan lagaya hay Hazrat Mufti Ahmed Yaar Khan Naeemi Sb Qibla Rehmat Ullah e Alaih par.Un ko tashreeh ko daikhy beghair he us nain yeh sab kuch likh dia.Zara is deogandi ko kaho tafseel say paray isay.

 

Aur Janab kehnay aur man'nay main buhat faraq hay.Zara aqal ho tu isay b samjh lain.

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Chisti bhai agr is mein aqal hoti to hamara is masley par aqeedah na parh leta :lol: ,

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Oper jo main nein saajid khan k article ka aik safha lagaya us k jawab mein mera saaajid khan se sawal hai k saajid khan sahab yeh aap nein apni daleel di hai ya hamara aqeedah likha hai ????

humey to is se koi ikhatalaf nahi hai ,Anbia ki bashriyet ka inkar karne wala hamare nazdeeq bhi kafir hai,is tarha is se to hamara hi aqeddah zahir ho raha hai :lol:

abhi tum peechey likh kar aye ho k hamare nazdeeq bhi nabi woh bashar hota hai jis par wahi uttari jaati hai to janab yeh maloom honey k bawajood yeh aitraz kiun ????

 

or tuheedi bhai ki post ka jawab bhi dena.

 

waise saajid khan sahab aap dalail kamal k detey ho :lol:

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Yeh lo saajid khan ALa Hazrat RehmatULLAH Alaih ka fatwa parho or apni tehkeek par matam karo, Mutalkan Huzoor (saw) ki bashriyet ka inkar karne wala kafir hai .

 

 

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Yehi baat tuheedi bhai or saeedi bhai nein aap ko samjaney k liye ki thi k pehle hamara aqeedah parh lo,lekin ..................................nahi maney.

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saajid khan nein apni post mein pata nahi kitni baar kaha k Huzoor

(saw) hamari tarha hi bashar they e.t.c is lafz bashar par tehkeek parhe or is jahil se bachein.

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@ Toheedi Bhai......yara me Haqiaq jannay ki koshish karr raha hoon...apko ka andaza galat hai....

 

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bohot khoob Chishti Qadri & Qadri Attari bhai

 

apka reply wahan post ho chuka hai....

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Saajid khan nein apni post mein Hadees noor par jarah karte howe kaha k ibn e taiymia nein kaha mujhe herani hoi k ibn e taiymia hamare lye kabh se hujjat ho gya.

Tuheedi bhai nein shoro mein aik article lagaya tha saari behas ka nachor wohi aik article tha lekin saajid khan nein us par baat na ki main Hadees Noor doabara laga raha hoon.sabh members dekhein k kitne bhare bhare muhadaseen ka aqeedah wohi hai jo aaj hum ahle sunnat wa jamat ka hai .

 

jo bhi is hadees par jarah kare ga usey buzurgaaney deen k in aqwal ko thukrana hoga.ALLHAMDULILLAH AZAWAJAL Saajid khan nein abhi tak koi aysi daleel nahi di jis mein Huzoor (saw) k noor honey ki nafi ho .

 

or is taraf hum nein dalail k anbaar laga diye hain .

main pochta hoon k yeh buzurgaaney deen sahi hai ya saajid khan ????

 

kis ki baat mano k gay aap sabh chahye aap deobandi ho ya sunni ?????

 

kiun saajid khan sahab kia guzar rahi hai abh aap par ?? :lol:

 

 

koi bhi jawab deney se pehle is hadees ko poora parh lena .

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Jazak Allah o Khairan Kaseera Qadri Attari Bhai.Nuhat khoob jawab irshad farmaya hay aap nain.

 

Ab zara is attachment ko b daikh le jia jo keh Muwahib ul Ladunya main Imam Qustalani Rehmat Ullah e Alaih nain likhy hay.

Hazrat Wahab bin Manba Radi Allah o Unho farmatay hain keh...

 

Is dunya ke har cheez Noor honay ko maan rahy hay laykan deogandi aur wahhabi gustakh ke aqal ko daikho

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Jazak Allah o Khairan Kaseera Qadri Attari Bhai.Nuhat khoob jawab irshad farmaya hay aap nain.

 

Ab zara is attachment ko b daikh le jia jo keh Muwahib ul Ladunya main Imam Qustalani Rehmat Ullah e Alaih nain likhy hay.

Hazrat Wahab bin Manba Radi Allah o Unho farmatay hain keh...

 

Is dunya ke har cheez Noor honay ko maan rahy hay laykan deogandi aur wahhabi gustakh ke aqal ko daikho

 

 

JazakALLAH Khera bhai

Huzoor (saw) k noor honey ki aik or daleel k Sarkar e madinah (saw) ka saya na tha .parhiye or iman taza ki jiye.main nein zaroori baaton ko underline kar diya hai.

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Sarfraz ghakarvi deobandiyo ka buhat bhara molvi hai us k fatwe ki roo se yeh sabh buzurgaaney deen jin k hawalajat main nein oper diye hain kafir tehrte haini MAZALLAH

molvi safraz apni kitab mein tanqeed e mateen mein kia likhta hai mulahiza ho.

 

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abh is fatwe ki roo se kon kon kafir Teharta hai un k naam zara dil sambhal kar parhiye.

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ALLAH ALLAH agr yeh buzurgaaney deen sabh kafir howe MAZALLAH SUMA MAZALLAH to baqi kia raha ????

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or Sarfraz molvi k Is fatwe se Ganohi bhi kafir tehrta hai

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saajid khan nein mujh par bhi buhat se aitrazat kiye hain lekin main abhi un ka jawab nahi dey raha hoon .waise humey Ahle Sunnat wa Jamat ka Difa karna hai apna nahi.agr zaroorat parhi to kuch wazahatein zaroor karo ga.

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Yeh dekhein oper wala hisa saajid khan ki post ka hai.is mein is nein mujhe par aitraz kiya hai k main nein apni post mein yeh likha hai k saajid khan nein kaafi khiyanatey ki hain .(main is ka jawab nahi dena chahta tha lekin saajid khan apne forum par hamari dalail parh kar buhat aag bagola ho raha hai hamari dalail chor kar bacho wali harkatein kar raha hai . is liye us ka mon banda karne k liye likh raha hoon)

 

 

Halankey main nein apni post mein yeh likha hai k ( Is mein Sajid khan nein kafi khiyanat ki hai )

aap sabh members dekh sakte hain

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agr main ghalat hoon to saajid khan sahab us post ki nishandahi karwa dein .shukriyah

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Janab mujay tu afsos ho raha hay us Sajid Khan par keh kehta hay keh Huzoor (saw) ke jins Noor say sabat karo.Us ko shayad boukhalat main Hadees e Noor nazar he nahi aa rahy.Jab us par jarah ke gay jis ko us nain man nay inkar kar dia tha tu ab us kar kalam he nahi kar raha.

Ab is ka aqeeda b Wahhabion ke tarh ho gy ahay aur kehta hay keh Hidayat k Noor thay.Mujay tu aisa maaloom ho raha hay keh yeh apnay akabar k aqeeday say b phir gya hay.Jaisa keh Touheedi Bhai nain pehlay he hawala day dia tha keh is k akabar Huzoor (saw) ko hissi Noor mantay hain jis ka yeh inkar kar raha hay.

 

Phir aagay chal kar yeh Hazrat Qibla Mufti Ahmed Yar Khan Naeemi Sb wali bat par aa gya hay.O janab zara ghor say par tu laitay is page ko tum.Tum nain Bashar wali bat par aitraz kia tha jis par hum nain original page scan kia keh kyon bashar nahi kaha ja sakta aur is bat ka jawab Qadri Attari Bhai nain b dia tha.

 

Phir aagay is nain jawab main likha hay keh Hazrat Allama Maulana Umar Ichravi Rehmat Ullah e Alaih k baray main aur un ke book ko scan kia hay.Tu janab unhon nain kya ghalat likha hay.Humara tu aqeeda hay keh Aap (saw) Syed Ul Bashar hain.aur hum is bat ke wazahat pehlay say he kar chukay hain.

 

Phir aagay kehta hay keh tafseeron k ghalat hawalay dia tu janab is say poochain kon se tafseer ka ghalat hawala dia hay hum nain???

 

Is say kahain keh yeh hissi Noor ke nafi main b koi hawala paish karay??Deobandi Insha Allah qayamat tak aisa nahi kar sakay ga..

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bhai post 181 kay bad kay sunni bhaioon kay reply me wahan laga doonga....

bhai koshish kareen point to pint jawab dain itni lambi lambi scanning laganay me mushkil peesh aa rahi hai....to de point baat ho to zada sahi hai dono taraf se

 

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Janab Rizwan Qadri Sb.is ka jawab is nacheez nain kal he likh dia tha aur to the point he likha tha aap plz usay daikh lain.Aap nain us batal forum par shayad Asad k name say acount banaya hua hay.Aur main nain aap ka reply b wahan para tha laikan un logon nain aap ka reply edit kia hua hay.

 

Woh Hadees e Noor par bat nahi kar raha ab.Is k alawa main nain apnay last post main aik Hadees Sharif scan ke hay jis say Jins e Noor b sabat ho rahy hay.

 

Aur wahan main nain aik chez daikhy hay keh MALANG nami banda jis ko yahan buhat jootay par chukay hain woh wahan kaisy kaisy batain karta hay.

Baharhal aap jawab par lain.

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haan muje maloom hai editing hui hai......asal masla ye hai kay wo scanning bohot lambi thi book ki... abhi mene jo yahan sajid wahabi ka reply post kia hai wo apki Post # 181 tak ka hai....os kay baad kay ap logo kay reply me wahan laga chuka hoon

 

ab plz koshish kareen kay sajid wahabi ka jawab anay tak mazeed is topic per baat na kareen takay debate ki kichri na banne paee......plz jab wahan is chisti qadri bhai ki jo last post hai wahan tak kay jawabat na ajeen jab tak koi reply na kreen is topic per plzz

 

or bhai koshish kareen kay point to poin or short tareeqay se baat kareen pori lambi lambi scanning na kreen plz...sirif to de point baat ho...

 

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or haan ye jo mene sajid wahabi ka reply lagaya hai sirf iska jawab zaroor de deye ga to de point ok

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(salam) Rizwan Sahab abh aap saajid khan ki posts yeha mat lagao,woh is liye k main nein kal hi saajid khan ka reply dekh liya tha or waha hamare complete jawab nahi gay they abh saajid khan ko debate karni hai to yeha aye,khud poori pooori books compose kar raha hai or jabh hum nein sirf aik hadees pesh ki or us par ulma k aqwal to un deogandiyo nein usey yeh keh kar edit kar diya k books chapne ki ijazat nahi hai ,sharam aani chahiye deobandiyo ,or abh plz aap yeha us ki post mat lagayein .main is post ka jawab bhi doon ga lekin abhi plz mazeed yeha posts mat lagayein.shukriyah

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Janab Qadri Attari Bhai aap nain theek farmaya hay keh agar us ko debate ka shoq hay tu idher aa jay yahan say bhaga hua kyon hay?????

Janab abhi aap us ka reply parain tu aap ko pata chal jay ga keh us ka response kia hay....

Apni deogandion wali purani aadat par uttar aaya hay aur kehta hay keh tum nain meray sawalat ka jawab nahi dia tu us ko araz hay zara aankhain khol kar paro.Shayad Boukhalat main us ko kuch nazar nahi aa raha.

Musnad abdul Razzaq wali Hadees Sharif ka us nain koi jawab nahi dia jis say Jins e Noor sabat hay.

 

Hum nain us k sab aitrazat ka jawab day dia hay.Laikan ab idher say udhar karay ga batain Insha Allah laikan jawab nahi day sakay ga

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Janab Qadri Attari Bhai aap nain theek farmaya hay keh agar us ko debate ka shoq hay tu idher aa jay yahan say bhaga hua kyon hay?????

Janab abhi aap us ka reply parain tu aap ko pata chal jay ga keh us ka response kia hay....

Apni deogandion wali purani aadat par uttar aaya hay aur kehta hay keh tum nain meray sawalat ka jawab nahi dia tu us ko araz hay zara aankhain khol kar paro.Shayad Boukhalat main us ko kuch nazar nahi aa raha.

Musnad abdul Razzaq wali Hadees Sharif ka us nain koi jawab nahi dia jis say Jins e Noor sabat hay.

 

Hum nain us k sab aitrazat ka jawab day dia hay.Laikan ab idher say udhar karay ga batain Insha Allah laikan jawab nahi day sakay ga

 

 

Chisti bhai aap nein sahi kaha hai abh saajid khan bokhla gya hai.abh us k paas hamari kisi baat ka jawab nahi hai abhi saajd khan k aik or baat ka jawab main doon ga INSHALLAH AZAWAJAL yeh jawab bhi lajwab hoga.Members intazar karein.

 

aik or baat woh yeh k saajid khan nein abh is masley ki zaatiyat ka masla banana hai or is par yeh kaam bhi kar raha hai lekin ALLHAMDULILLAH AZAWAJAL main pehle Noor o Bashar par dalail doon ga or is ki post ka post martam karonga phir jabh zaroorat pari to is nein jo mujhe par aitraz kiye hain un ka jawab doon ga .

 

 

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SAAJID KHAN NEIN YEHA 5 AHADEES PESH KI HAIN JIN KO WOH APNE AQEEDAY KI DALEEL KEHTA HAI HALANKEY IS KA SAAJID KHAN K AQEEDAY (HUZOOR (saw) K NOOR NA HONEY ) SE KOI TALUK NAHI HAI,MEMBERS DEKHEIN K YEH DEOBANDI WAHABI KIS TARHA WOH AAYAT YA AHDEES LETEY HAIN JIN MEIN AJIZI HO IN KO WOH AHADEES NAZAR HI NAHI AATI JIN MEIN AQA (saw) KAHA K MAIN TUMHARE KISI ADAMI KI MANIND NAHI HOON ,AYSI BUHAT SE AHADEES HAIN LEKIN MANNE WALEY K LIYE AIK BHI KAAFI HAI

CHAND AHADEES HAZIR KHIDMAT HAIN

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AIK BAAR MAIN PHIR KEHTA HOON K SAAJID KHAN SAHAB AAP KO HUZOOR SALLALAHO ALAIH E WASALAM K NOOR NA HONEY KI DALEEL DENI HAI NA K BASHAR HONEY KI KIUNK HUZOOR (saw) K BASHAR HONEY MEIN HAMARA APIS MEIN ITFAQ HAI TO AAP WOH AYAT YA AHADEES KIUN PESH KAR RAHE HO ?????

 

Attari sahab kisi bhi hadees ka aik tukra laga kar apna moqaf na bataya karin balkay puri complete hadees ka scan lagaya karein takay readers ko samjhne mein aasani ho..kisi ayat ka aik tukra lagakar koi sharabi bhi keh sakta hay ke sharab halal hay

 

 

يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لاَ تَقْرَبُوا الصَّلاَةَ وَأَنْتُمْ سُكَارَى

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