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janab mayri 1st post jo is thread meh ha os ko phir se ghor se pero ke mein ny likha ha ke fard wahid ka kohi amal ghalat amal meh wahabiyon ke sar nahi dal raha laikin ap se darhowasat ki ha ke ap batwo ke aik sharabi badsha ko haram kaba

kiyon kar banya ha ap wahabiyon ne?aur kisi bi wahabi allam ne fatwa kiyon nahi dia ke najdi badsha kiyon ke sharabi ha

is liye yeh haram kaba hony ka haqdar nahi ha?ager ap aik bi fatwa paish kar do to jo ap nahi karo gay.

aik fatwa do jis meh najdi allama ne kufar ke adon per hukomat ko tanqid kia ha?

pagal na bano aur wahabi kufar ishtarq per bi baat kro?

jo bi is behas ka anjam ho ga os ke baad meh dekhon ga ke tum kis tarah se wahabiyon ko kufar ka agent qabol nahi kro gay.

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Janab Commander sab

 

Me ek jhota sa sawal pochna chata ho,Akhr asa kyo he ke sari dunia me jetne ni Dheshat Gard he mazhab ke naam per un sab ka taloq Wahabiat se he?me ye to ni kahta ke sare ke sare Wahabi Dheshat Gard he per Jetne bi Dheshat Gard he woh Wahabi he esa kyo? Kya ap logo ki Taleem or Tarbiat me kami he ya Ruhaniat se Adam Taloq ki waja se ap logo per ye wabal aya he ke Sari me Ap hi log he jin se Dheshat Gardi hoti he ,mera matlab he ap hi log Dheshat Gardi karte hen Akhr kyo?

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Janab aap har jaga dekhen musalman aur kaffir civilians ko marna Wahabiat kay perokar hen, Somalia meh dekhen kia ho raha heh. Wahabiat nay Somalia meh qatal e aam pehlaya huwa heh, apnay Pakistan meh hee dekhen kia ho raha heh, Swat meh kia ho raha thah, aur Abdul Wahab Najdi nay kia keeya, Musalmanoon ko qatal keeya, haram shareef meh musalmanoon ko qatal keeya, musalmanoon kay Hajj per janay per pabandi laga deeh, musalmanoon ko Mushrik tehra ker un ka qatal kerta, un kee auratoon ko ghulam banata, maal o asbab per kabza kerta aur apnay Wahabiyoon meh taqseem kerta. Jidr be Wahabiat pehli qatal o gherat, sucide bombing, shoroon ho gaee, Aghanistan meh Wahabi'at aur us kee behen Deobandiat nay joh kuch kia kissi say chupa nahin, somalia, Falisteen, Pakistan, China, Yemen meh Wahabiyoon nay Sunniyoon ko qatal keeya aur joh abhi taq jaari heh, yeh Darfur meh Sunni qatal ho rahay hen aur Wahabi ker rahay hen, Swat meh sab say pehlay hamlay Sunni Ulamah per say shoroon huway, ek ek ker kay shaheed keeyeh gahay, phir baqi awaam kee turn aahi.

 

Aur agar Wahabiat kee purani tareekh pero joh Zulh Khawaisira say shoroon huwi jissay ham aaj Khariji kehtay

hen, yeh Wahabiat, Kharijiat wohi mazhab heh joh new packaging kay saath aaj awaam ko pesh huwa, un khawarijiyoon ko Sahabah Mushrik o Kaffir lagen, Sahabah say jang keren,

 

Kharijiyoon kee mukhtalaf shaakhen:`

 

al-Mahkamah al-Oolaa; <LI>al-Azaariqah (Azraqī); <LI>an-Najdaat; <LI>ath-Thu'aalabah; <LI>al-'Ajaaridah; <LI>al-Abaadhiyyah (Ibādī); <LI>as-Safriyyah

 

Some of the other sub-sects include:

 

  • al-Ibaadiyyah;
  • ash-Shamraakhiyyah;
  • as-Salaydiyyah;
  • as-Sirriyyah;
  • al-'Azriyyah;
  • al-'Ajradiyyah;
  • ash-Shakkiyyah;
  • al-Fadhaliyyah;
  • al-Hamas
  • al-Bayhasiyyah;
  • al-'Atwiyyah;
  • al-Fadeekiyyah;
  • al-Ja'diyyah;
  • ash-Shaybiyyah;
  • al-Hurooriyyah;
  • al-Khamariyyah;
  • ash-Sharaah.

Kharijiat har zamanay meh new packaging kay saath pesh huwi, new nam say mashoor huwi, Misaal kay tor per Bangladesh meh Wahabiyoon ko Shabiriya kaha jata heh. Kharijiat meh thori tabdeeliyan aaheen, jistera aaj kal Barelwi kehlanay waloon meh Tahir Ul Qadiri kay fallowers ko Tahiri kehtay hen, ya Minhaaji kehtay hen, aur phir ek aur branch Sulla Qulli, Deobandiyoon meh Hayati aur Mamati ka Farq, Wahabiyoon meh Wahabi Muqallid {Hanabali} aur Wahabi Ghair Muqallid {"Ahle Hadith}, Salafi, Ikhwani, mukhtalaf issues per thora thora ikhtilaaf, har side meh heh, magar central teaching ek hee heh har main sect kee, is;see tera Kharijiat meh central teaching ek hee thee magar thora thora farq prta raha aur khariji subsects meh bat'tay gahay, aur aaj kal Kharijiat kee aur shaakhen bee nikleen hen.

 

* Wahabi Hanabali

* Wahabi Ghair Muqallid,

* Salafi,

* Qutbi

* Ikhwani

* Deobandi Hanafi Hayaati

* Deobandi Hanafi Mamati,

* Usmani

 

Shakhen ilada hen magar central tenet of killing Muslims, labelling Muslims of Kuffr, Shirk, apostacy, Biddat, Irtad, killing Muslims, taking their property taking their women as slaves, and rebellion against the leader of state, are the central tenets which all share, and time and time again these tendancies surface, we have had Lal Temple issue in which a priest and group of stealthy Ninja ladies armed with sticks and guns kidnaped people literally becoming the police force, note rebellion against hakim under no circumstances is permitted only on the ocasion of apostacy, the scholars are allowed to act to bring him to justice with support of public.

 

Khariji'at rebelled against Hazrat Usman Ghani {RA}, Ali Radiallah tallah anh {RA}, Muawiyah {RA}, and they continously rebelled against Islamic rulers in which ever area they lived, and came Ibnul Wahab Najdi, he kept up the tradition of rebellion, and Ibn Saud also rebelled, and so did his progeny rebell against the Khilafat with the assistance of Polytheists the Wahabi Kharijis created the state of Saudi Al Wahabiyah {ARabia}. In Somalia, the Wahabis accused the majority of Shirk, Biddat, Kuffr, and killed Muslims, and rebelled against the leaders, and same is happening in Yemen, and same is happening in Pakistan, and only one country where there are Sunni's fighting, thats Chechniyah, there is no suicide bombings, no killing of children, and no hostage taking, and the one group which took school children hostage was Wahabi the suicide bombers belonging to some guy called Omar Khattab, and now actually in Somalia the Sunnis are fighting back, and alhamdulillah they have taken considerable amount of teritory back from the Saudi sponsored Wahabi terrorists, and Allah give them victory and make it easier for them to kill Wahabis, ameen.

 

The nature of Wahabi'ism is making Takfir of Muslims by either labelling them Mushrik, or by explicitly calling them Kaffir, and killing them, rebelling against the established authority whos leader is still a Muslim, yes a Faajir, Fasiq, Zindeeq, Biddati, leader but still a Muslim leader, and rebellion against a Muslim ruler, just or corrupt ruler isnt allowed, and strangely those who are rebelling aganst the Fasiq FAajir, Zindeeq leader are worse transgressors of deen then the leader is, no leader regardless how corrupt, immoral, he is, instructs suicide bombing of school buses, markets, killing of women because they want education, killing of women because they do not want to cover heads, uncovering the head is sin, but not a crime deserving death, and under Wahabiyas rule, its death. Ones who are claimng that we want to establish a just system in reality are working toward a system which is opressive, transgression against Islam, and has no basis on Quran and Sunnah, and one who dares to contradict is invited to prove me this system from Quran and Sunnah. And this opressive system was implimented on Sahabah by Khawarij and only lifted when Ali radiallah tallah anh became the Khalif after the shahadat of Usman Ghani radiallah tallah anh.

 

In short Khariji'ism and its basic tenets are, labelling Muslims of Kuffr, Shirk, Biddat, wish to impliment their own "Islam", rebellion, killing Muslims, taking Muslim women as slaves, assasination of key figures, and these were all present in the Kharijis of past, and are still present in Kharijis of modern days. And only Wahabi which is peacful and tolerant is one which doesnt own a gun, and lives among Sunnis as a tiny minority, and since that tiny minority numbers around thousand, or few hundered the killing, the fatwahs of Kuffr, Shirk Biddat, apostacy, Mushrik, grave worshiping, start flying and when they get subtantial backing by Saudi Al Wahabiyah they get agressive and eventually leading to conflict. Only Peaceful Wahabi is Dead wahabi, ...

 

 

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Commander Faisal

Baee aap zera ghor keren, sharab agar Barelwiyoon kay peetay hen tohWahabiyoon Deobandiyoon Shiyoon weghera kay afrad be hoon gay joh peetay hen, Islam ko bura keyun ker kaha ja sakta heh magar bura ussay kaha jahay ga jis ka amal bura heh.

 

Jee Fatwah poocha jahay, aur zeroorat e waqt ho aur Mufti fatwah nah lagahay, toh Shaytaan ka bacha heh, Aalim kehnay kay lyke nahin.

 

Reh gaya Wahabi'at kee dashat gardi, sucide bombing, aur Fatwah e Mushrik, Shirk, Biddat, Kuffr, Qatal e Aam, baghawat, yeh kharijiat kee nishani heh, Khariji'at behas badal sakti heh, magar apni fitrat nahin. Aur Khariji-Wahabi'at nay sirf lebas badla heh, Fitrat nahin, joh Wahabi qatal o aam meh mulavwas nahin, mujjay meray Rab kee kasam agar moqa millay yeh sab bilqul wohi keren joh Swat meh shaytaan kay bachoon nay kiya, Sunni Ulamah ko Shaheed keren jistera Nashtr Park meh huwa, aur Wahabi'at kee fitrat Baghawat, Takfir, aur qatal e aam heh, bas lebas badal ker shor daal rahay ho hamari wahabiat esi taleem nahin deti, warna fitrat meh Takfir, qatal e aam, Baghawat, heh Wahabiat kee joh Zhul kHwaisira say chaali aa rahi heh. Ibnul Wahab Najdi nay Mushrik keh ker mUsalmanoon kee Takfir kee, aur un ko Shaheed keeya, Ulamah e Ahle Sunnat ko Shaheed keeya, is'see tera aaj kal ho raha heh Musalmanoon ko Mushrik keh ker qatal keeya ja raha heh Ulamah e Ahle Sunnat ko Shaheed keeya ja raha heh keyun kay baqaul Wahabiat kay woh Mushrik hen aur Mushrikeen ka qatal jaiz heh.

 

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Aap kay mazhab kay satoon, aap kee Wahabi Jammat kay bot baray leader, Ismail Ghaznavi, Haddiyatas Sunniya, kay Urdu tarjuma Tohfa e Wahabiya meh likhta heh kay Mushrikeen ka qatal kerna jaiz aur un kay maal o asbab ko lootna jaiz heh. Yehni Ahle Sunnat Wal Jammat Barelwi kay ham aqeedah Mushrik hen aur un ka qatal jaiz heh aur maal o asbab lootna muba yehni permissable heh, jaiz heh, recogmended heh. Is'see per Ibnul Wahab Najdi nay amal keeya yahi us ka aqeedah thah yahi us ka amal thah yahi Wahabia e pakistan ka amal heh, bas ap roop badal ker bethay hen, aap kee fitrat wohi heh joh Kitab meh heh, ap ka bas chalay toh puray pakistan meh qatal o gherat ka bazaar garm ker denh.

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Ye behas start hoi thi ke Pakistan mein logon ka qatal e aam deobandi wahabi kar rahay hein..ye log pakistan mein jari dehshat gardi ke zimadar hein..in wahabion aur deobandion ne pakistan mein logon qatle aam kia hay..

 

to bhai topic par aao ..saudi arab se wapis aajao..sheikh jo kar hay hein sab ghalat kar rahay hein..sharbi hein ..zaani hein..sab kuch hein..ab pakistan ki baat karo..anwar ne jo jhoot ka planda pesh kia hay uske dalail pesh karo..suboot pesh karo ke dekho ye deobandi aur wahabi qatle aam ker raahay hein..

 

 

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Jee YaAllahMadad sahib aap bilqul sachay hen, yeh saray dashat gard Barelwi hen, aap nay dekha hoga TV per kay sawat meh Barelwi kistera larkiyoon kee shalwaren pakr ker,haath bazoon bakr ker larki ko maar rahay thay, aur Barelwiyoon ko dekha hoga kay marketoon, bussoon, schoooloon aur mashoor waqia Sri Lanka kee team per Barelwiyoon nay halla bol deeya mushkal say bus driver nay team ko bachaya, aur Barelwi toh itnay baray terrorist hen kay aaj Pakistani fojh ko Barelwi terrorists kay khilaaf sawat, bajaur, makeen weghera kay ilaqoon meh jang kerna per rahi heh, aur yeh itnay baray terrorist hen yaqeen keren saray Barelwiyoon kay madrassoon say taleem yafta hen rozana bomb damakay kertay hen, meh toh aap kee har baat ko samajta hoon meh ittifaaq kerta hoon aap say kay Sawat, Bajour Makeen Northern Wazirstan meh sab Barelwi terrorist hen joh dashatgardi kertay hen, saray in kee jamat kay banday hen sirf muwahideen ko badnam kertay hen, kitnay beimaan hen yeh Barelwi ek taraf terrorism meh mulavwas hen aur dosri taraf yeh masoom banahay huway hen jesay in say shareef bacha kissi maan nay jana hee nahin, welldone YaAllahMadad baee, aap in kay terrorism ko achi tera expose ker rahay hen, Allah tallah aap ko is ka bot ajar deh ga. keep up the good work.

 

 

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Assalam leman ate baa huda

 

Janab Commander

 

Jab ap kisi thred pe bahes kar rahe hote he to pher ye koi "confidential subject between two parties" ni rahta,or har ek ka haq he ke woh is me shreek ho or apni raae ka izhar kare,ye ap ki marzi ke ap kisi ke sawal ka jawab de ya na de lakin khalat taasr qaim mat kare ye munafaqat he jesa ap ne akhr me ye likh dya ke sab ne dekh lia,is tara new reader ye samje ga ke ap ne medan mar lya or haqiqat ye he ke ap bori tara se phas gae hen,isi lye ab ap ki koshish ye he ke kis tara se ahesta ahesta in se jaan chorao,mene ye kahata or ab bi kehta ho sare Wahabi Dheshat gard ni he per sare dheshat gard wahabi he,per kisi ke zahen me ye sawal ni aya ke inka "ratio" kya he kitne Wahabi dheshat gard he or kitne ni mera jawab he 98% dheshat gard he or 2% abi is level per ni aye,jee janab me apne Dawe per Qaim ho,acha ek sawal he ap se kya Ibne Wahab ne ek Andhe Muazen ko sirf islye Qatal karwadya ke woh shakhs Hazor sallalahu alehe wasalam pe Darood bhejta tha har Azan se pehlay,kya ye bat sach ni he agar sach he to ise bar kar or kya saboot hosakta he Ap logo ke ghalat Afkar ka, jab ibtada hi ap logo ki Qatal or gharet ghri se ho to or kya ap log kisi ko or kya sekhae gae,dosoro se ap jawab chate ho or khod jawab dene se bhagte ho,Akhr Ahle suna kitni bar sabat kare ke yahi woh firka he jis ke bare me Hazoor ne, nishan dhahi kar di thi,ap muje bate kya hum akhr zamane me nahi he kya shaten ke sing najid se zaher ni howe kya Ibne Wahab najidi ni he kya ap logo ki Sari Tahreek Qatal or Dheshat per shoro ni howi kya Tareekh ap logo ko Dheshat Gard sabet ni karta kya aaj jo kuch Pakistan me dheshat gardi ho rahi he usme ap logo ke Takfeer Afkar ka koi dakhal ni he,sawalat bhot he ap logo ke leye per muje ahsas he ap ke pass jawab dene ke leye kuch ni he, Ap Najdi Badsha ki tang pakar ke beth gae he,muje ye bate ye ab tak ap ke kitne ullumao ne Bet uLlah Mehsood ko Jahanami karar dya he,ya us ke Firke ko Kharji ya Jahanami karar dya he muje bataye Akhr ap ke ulluma Tahreek e Taliban Pakistan ko kyo ni Kharji karar deti he kyo ni unke khilaf Fatwa jari hota he Ahle sunnat ke khilaf ap logo ki ziban thakti ni per ek lafz bi in kharjio ke khilaf ni nikal ta he ap logo se akhr kyo,kya ap log Yahood or Nasara ke mission per he yaha Pakistan me,me Anwar sab se kuch ikhtelaf rakh sakta ho per ek bat paki he or ose muje Itefaq he Is firke ko khatam hojana chaheye muje is bat se koi taamal ni he ye firka Umate muslama me zahere qatil ke siwa kuch ni he,Allah or uska Rasool Ahle sunna or jamaa ka muhafiz ho,Ameen

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Jee YaAllahMadad sahib aap bilqul sachay hen, yeh saray dashat gard Barelwi hen,  aap nay dekha hoga TV per kay sawat meh Barelwi kistera larkiyoon kee shalwaren pakr ker,haath bazoon bakr ker larki ko maar rahay thay, aur Barelwiyoon ko dekha hoga kay marketoon, bussoon, schoooloon aur mashoor waqia Sri Lanka kee team per Barelwiyoon nay halla bol deeya mushkal say bus driver nay team ko bachaya, aur Barelwi toh  itnay baray terrorist hen kay aaj Pakistani fojh ko Barelwi terrorists kay khilaaf  sawat, bajaur, makeen weghera kay ilaqoon meh jang kerna per rahi heh, aur yeh itnay baray terrorist hen yaqeen keren saray Barelwiyoon kay madrassoon say taleem yafta hen rozana bomb damakay kertay hen, meh toh aap kee har baat ko samajta hoon meh ittifaaq kerta hoon aap say kay Sawat, Bajour Makeen Northern Wazirstan meh sab Barelwi terrorist hen joh dashatgardi kertay hen, saray in kee jamat kay banday hen sirf muwahideen ko badnam kertay hen, kitnay beimaan hen yeh Barelwi ek taraf terrorism meh mulavwas hen aur dosri taraf yeh masoom banahay huway hen jesay in say shareef bacha kissi maan nay jana hee nahin, welldone YaAllahMadad baee, aap in kay terrorism ko achi tera expose ker rahay hen, Allah tallah aap ko is ka bot ajar deh ga. keep up the good work.

 

 

 

Khisyani billi khamba noche....

 

jab bralvi ko apne jhoot ke plande ka koi suboot nahi mila aur wo suboot pesh karne mein nakaam raha to..fazool batein shroo kardein..

 

chalo sirf aik jawab do filhaal..ke.......ye jitna bhi kuch qatal o gharat mulk mein aur dunya bhar mein ho raha hay..aap ke pass in events ko jaanne ka kia source hay..kis source se aap ko ye sab khabrein mil rahi hein..9/11 ki kabrein aap ko kis ne dein..ye dehshatgardi ki sari khabrein kis ne shroo ki..ke pakistan mein taalban hein..wo ye kar rahay wo kar rahay hein..shrroo kis ne kia...kon peechay para hoa hay is baat par ke operation karo....in musalmano ko maro..jahan mile baghir tehqeeq ke qatal karo..bas hamari imdad mashroot hi is operation se hay..tumharay ye american aur yahoodi musalmno ki jaan ke itne khair khawah hein ke hukumat par pressure daal rahay hein ke in dehshat gardo ko khatam karoo..aur doori taraf yahi yahoodi aur american begunah palestini bachon aur aurton ki jaan lay rahay..

 

aur puray mulk mein sirf tumhari bralvi hi aik wahid jamat hay jo in yahoodion aur american ke azaim ki himayat kar rahay hein aur is american operation ko kaamyaab banana chahatay hein.

 

Allah tum bralvion ko aqal day...

 

tehqeeq ki aadat banao ..na ke andhi taqleed ki

 

 

 

 

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مراسلہ: (ترمیم شدہ)

ایک صفحہ بھر گیا ہے لیکن کسی نے میرے سوالات کا جواب نہیں دیا کیا وجہ ہے؟ اور التجانی صاحب آپ بھی ۹۸ؕپرسنٹ کی دلیل تیار رکھیں۔

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Jee Fatwah poocha jahay, aur zeroorat e waqt ho aur Mufti fatwah nah lagahay, toh Shaytaan ka bacha heh, Aalim kehnay kay lyke nahin.

 

 

اختر صاحب میرے سوال کو تو آپ نے بھی نہیں سمجھا، کیا میں نے اس عالم کے بارے میں آٓپ حضرات کی رائے معلوم کی ہے جو فتوی نہ لگائے یا اُس کے مذہب کے بارے میں؟؟ جبکہ اصول تو یہ ہے کہ اُس عالم کے متعلق بھی مطلقاً یہ کہنا درست نہیں کہ چونکہ یہ خاموش رہا ہے اس لئے وہ عالم اُس فعل کے جواز کا قائل ہے۔

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Dalel hi Dalel he per ap logo ki Aqal per jo perde he uska kya kya jay,ab kitne baten howi Ap logo ke aqaed ke bare me per ap tase mas na howe,Quran or Ahadees se Dalelen de de kar Ahle sunna Thak gae per Ap logo ki Aqal per Pather pare howe he,lee jeye me apni bat sabat kar ne ke leye ek choti misal ap ko deta ho take shaed ap ko samaj ajae ke 98% kis tara se sabit hota he,ab kitne wahabi Hazrat he jo is site per visit kar cho ke ho gae,per kisi ne bi ye kaha ke TTP Dheshat Gard tanzeem he,balke ulta chor kat wal ko dante,Allah ka naam le kar shatan se Madad lene walene Pore Pakistan ko America ka Himieti or Musal mano ka dushman kahdya ,chale ap kahde Kya TTP khawarij he ke nahi,ye log Dheshat ghard he ke nahi,or ye sawal sirf ap se hi nahi jitne bi wahabi he woh kahede to pata chal jae ga ke ap ke firke me kitne log Dheshat gard he, or kitne nahi mere nazdig 2% se zyada log nahi ho gae jo TTP ko Dhasht Gard samaj te hogae ap ke Wahabio me,or ap ne bare shaan se ye thred shoro ki thi inko masoom or begunah sabat kar ne ke leye,asal maqsad hi ye tha,Anwar sab to bhana the,mene kaha or pocha he ap ka koi madressa jo TTP ko dheshat gard kahta he, jab koi he hi nahi to baki kya bacha,ab 2% woh log he jo is wahabiat me pori tara utre nahi,Inshallah agae bi sabet karo ga or Dalil ap khod ho gae.

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Mene kaha tha ke dalel hi dalel hogae per ap logo ki aqal per jo perde he un ka kya kya jae,ab ap ko ye shogofe nazr arehe he to guya ap waki in dheshat gardon ko haq pe samaj te he mene ap se jo kuch pocha woh ap ki aqal me nahi samaya,ab me kya karo, lagta he Allah ne ap ke mukadir me sirf ruswaee hi likhi he warna itni patae ke bad to ap to ba kar hi lete ,chale ap jane or ap ka mukadir,per ap logo me sirf 2% hi dheshat gard nahi he or 2% log woh he ek jo pori tara se wahabiabi ni bana yani uska Brain abi tak wash ni howa dosra woh jis ke lye Allah ne toba likh di he ,so woh kabhi na kabhi wahabiat se toba kar lega or apni Akharet bacha lega,lakin baki sab ke sab dheshat gard jahanami he,or Inshallah aenda ye bi bata do ga per ap ke Aqal me nahi ae gi.

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