Qazi

Janab Qazi Sb araz hay keh main nay woh link pehlay day diya hay.Aap woh link daikh lain uss main aap ka Taalain Bhai lajwab ho kar chalay gay thay...

 

Tu janab yeh btayn keh shikari kuttay ko kis maqsad k liyey rakha jata hay???

Pehlay tu kuttay ko mutliqan maarnay ka hukam tha (har qism ka kutta na rakhnay ka hukam tha)laikan baad main shikari kutton ko rakhnay ke ijazat day de gai thee.

Imam e Azam aur Imam Auzai k munazray par baat tu tab karain jab yeh masla Quran o Hadees say sabit shuda na ho...Baqi jo aap ke marzi...

Assalam alykum,

main dekhta hu ki na aap salam ka jawab detey hai na khud kabhi salam kartey hai???????

agar aap us munazarey par baat karney ko tayyar hai to shuru karey warna rahney de.

Janab Qazi Sb.aap ke qabliyat o aqal o feham ke daad dainichahiyay.Janab Rafa Yadain wala masla itna he roz e roshan ke tarahayaan hay tu hum nay iss amal k mansookh honay k baray main HadeesSharif paish ke thee.Jis par aap k aik Ghair Muqallad Bhai nay aitrazkiya aur jarrah ke,jiss ka jwab humaray intihai Muhtram Khalil Rana Sbnay aisa la jwab diya aur taadeel farmai keh wahhabi mazhab ka pairokaar bhag kharra hua...Aap main himmat hay tu aap jwab day dain....

 

Kuttay ko marnay k baray main hukam mansookh honay ka byan.

 

Hazrat Abu Huraira Radi Allah o Unho byan kartay hain keh Nabi Kareem (saw)nayfarmaya jis shakhs nay shikari kuttay ya bakriyon ke hifazat k ilawakoi aur kutta rakha issk amal say har roz aik qairat kam hota rahayga.(Muslim Sharif,Bab Al Misaqa wal Muzaria,Hadith No.3923)

 

Kyon janab pehlay tu kuttay ko mutliqan marnay ka hukam tha laikan baadmain ijazat day de gai.Laikan kya karain aap k mazhab ke bunyad he aisihay keh jis main har mansookh amal par amal karna lazman hay...

 

Jab hum nay Moavia aur Kaleeb(jis ka jwab na aaya) k baray main poochatu jwab aaya keh yeh shia wala kaam hay keh woh aur meaning laitayhain...Tu janab aap ke aqal main yeh bat kyon na aai keh hum b Sag kalafz real meanings main nahi laitay...Laikan aap ko kon samjhay..Zidaur ana parasti ka koi ilaj nahi...

 

Aap nay likha keh Syedi Imam e Azam Radi Allah Unho humaray liyayhujjat hain tu hum Syedi Imam e Azam ka byan b aap ko suna daitayhain.Syedi Imam e Azam ka yeh byan likhnay wala b aap k mazhab kanumainda hay...

 

ایمہ مجتہدین خصوصاً امام ابو حنیفہ نے خود فرمایا اذاصح الحدیث فھو مذہبی (Ahl e Hadith ka mazhab,Page 58,Sana Ullah AmratSari,Matbooa AhleHadees Academy,Lahore)...

 

Muddai lakh peh bhari hay gwahi teri....

 

Tu lejiyay jnab masla tu yahan he hall ho gya hay...

Assalam alykum,

Bhai mansook honey ki jo hadith apkey rana saheb ne di woh meharbani kar key mujeh bhi de dey, agar woh sahi hui to inshallaha aap mujeh jiddi na payenge. main agar us hadith par jirha na kar saka to sar jukha kar tasleem kar longa ye mera aap se wada hai, mainey pehle hi kah diya hai ki mera mazhab (aaur aap to jantey hai imam abu hanifa ka bhi) sahih hadith hai.

Abu huraira radiallaha wali hadith un kutto key barey me hai to shikar key liye pale jate hai, hadith mulaheza ho :-

Sufiyan bin Abu zuhair radiallaha se riwayat hai ki nabi karim sallallaho allehe wassalam ne farmaya - jisney kutta pala aaur uska maksad na to kheto ki nigrani hai aaur na hi janwaro ki dekh-bhal to aisey shaks ki neki me se aik kirat sawab ki kami ho jati hai. Rawi saeeb bin yazeed ne pucha kya ye riwayat aapne kudh muhammed sallallaho allehe wassalam se suni hai to unhone kaha haan is kibla key rab ki kasam (Sahih bukhri kitab makhlook ki paidaish 59 hadith no. 3325)

Haan to janab kutto ko marney ka hukum mansook kab hua aaur shikari ya palto me kaon sey hai. rahi baat sag ki tu uski aaur bhi koi meaning ho to bata de wahi liya karenge kyoki muawiya ki to dosri meaning tatbeek key liye hai.

imam saheb ka kaul sar aankho par ki mera mazhab sahih hadith hai kash aap bhi maan lete.

chaley ab jo is post ka asal maksad hai imam Auzai rah. aaur imam abu hanifa ka munazara us par behas shuru kariye.

Janab ko aasaan c baat samajh main na aa saki.Aap nay apni post main likha tha keh Aap k nazdeek sirf Quran o Hadees hujjat hain???M I right???

Phir main nay aap ko Rafa Yadain walay topic ka link diya tha jis main aap k aik ghair muqallid bhai bhag gay thay.Kyon keh Rafa Yadain par koi marfoo Hadees na dikha sakay thay.

 

Apnay aap ko pakka ghair muqallid sabit karnay k liyay zara uss topic main kiye gay humaray sawalat k jwabat aap day dain ta keh aap ka maslak tu sab k saamnay aa jay...Imam e Azam Radi Allah o Unho k mukalmay par tu baat aap tab karain jab keh woh aap k liye hujjat hon,khwamkha jahilon wali batain matt karain..

 

 

Sag e Madinah k baray main nay araz kiya tha keh yeh real meaning main yahan use nahi ho raha,laikan aap k aqal main yeh baat samajh na aa saki.Aur janab zara kuttay ko maar dainay wali Hadees Sharif tu yahan add karain..Aap jis hukam ka keh rahay hain woh baad main mansookh kar diya gya tha...

 

Aap yeh btayn keh Sahabah main Moavia ya Kaleeb naam ke personalities hain thee ya nahi???Main further iss detail main nahi jana chahta kyon keh yeh topic pata nahi kitni baar iss forum main discuss ho chuka hay..Laikan zidd aur hatt dharmi k kisi k pas koi ilaj nahi...

Assalam alykum,

bhai tajjub hai kah rahe bhag gaye possible hi nahi hai, rafayadain jo dopahar ki dhoop ki tarah roshan daleel rakhta hai, woh sabit na kiya ja sakey, kabhi kabhi jahilo ki baat ka jawab nahi diya jata woh alag baat hai, aap key paas rafayadain key tark ki koi hadith ho to pesh karey aaur please laan taan na karey.

kuttey ko marney wali hadith :-

Abdullaha bin umar radiallaha se riwayat hai ki nabi karim sallallaho allehe wassalam ney kutto sja marney ka hukum diya hai. (Sahih Bukhari, kitab 59 Makhlook ki paidaish key bayan me,hadith 3323)

Aaur Muhammed sallallaho allehe wassalam ne gulu karney aaur naam ko bigadney se mana farmaya hai. ????

Rahi baat Muawiya radiallaha ki to unkey naam ka matlab tha Takatwar Bajo wala ham shiao ki tarah unkey naam ka matlab wolf ya bhokney wali kutiya nahi lete kyoki agar aisa hota to muhammed sallallaho allehe wassalam unka naam durust kar dete.

Agar merey liye imam abu hanifa hujjat nahi to aap key liye to hai phir aap logo ney us munazrey ko lekar unpar jhoot kyo bandha? waisey to aap ko rafayadain par samjhaya ja chuka hai jid to aap kartey hai umatti ki baat par rasoolullaha ki baat ko chodhtey hai. agar imam sab. key us munazrey key baarey me kuch jantey hai to farmaiye warna rehney de.

Janab Qazi Sb.aap nay apni post main likha tha keh aap k nazdeek sirf aur sirf Quran o Hades hujjat hain...Jab Quran o Hadees say aap kay aqeeday ke nafi sabit ho chuki hay tu ab aap kyon khawam khawa apnay maslak ko badnaam karnay par tullay huay hain???

Aur Sag e Madinah ka matlab hay Madeenah Sharif ka kutta...Aur hum yeh reall meaning main nahi laitay yeh istiaratan use kiya jata hay..Aur agar real meaning main b liya jay tu AlhamdoLillah...

 

Aap btayn keh Sahabah aur Tabieen main Moavia ya Kaleeb miltay hain ya nahi???

aqidey ki nafi sabit ho chuki zara wajahat karey merey bhai???

Aaur madiney me to allaha key rasool muhammed sallallaho allehe wassalam ne kutto ko mar dalney ka hukum diya tha aaj bhi waha kuttey nahi hai kyoiki woh napak hotey hai phir ??? ye samjh nahi aaye ??

aaur bhai Tabieen main Moavia ya kaleeb miltay hain ya nahi isko bhi zara sa wajeh kar de meharbani hogi.

wassalam

Mazeed araz hay keh yeh topic yahan pehlay b discuss ho chuka hay..Iss k liye yeh link open karain...Yahan behas karnay ka koi faida nahi...

 

http://www.islamimeh...in/page__st__60

Assalam alykum,

jo link aap ney bheja waha sirf rafayadain par discuss hua hai main chahta ho woh munazara jo imam aauzai rah. aaur imam abu hanifa rah. key darmiyan hua tha uskey baarey me baat karo. kya aap tayyar hai?

aaur aap key naam key aage jo question mark hai woh isliye ki main janana chahta ho ki iska yani ''SAG E'' ka matlab aap mujeh bataiye?

assalam alykum,

chaley aap ki samjh nahi aa raha aisa karey jo surat aap logo bana kar ghoom rahe hai uski aik zaeef hadith pesh karey??

Janab Qazi Sb...yeh dialogue Musnad Imam Abu Hanifah, Chapter on Raf'ul-yadain main mojood hay.Aur agar aap ko Rafa Ya Dain par debate karni hay tu woh iss forum main pehlay he ho chuki hay.Topic talash karain aur daikhain...

 

Agar phir b koi chain nahihay tu in Sha Allah is topic par baat kar lain gay...Aap ji maslak ke numaindgi kar rahay hain uss main khud rafa yadain k baray main ikhtilaf hay.Laikan agar hum nay woh hawalay add kiyay tu aap wohi apni purani baat par aa jayn gay keh yeh humaray liyay hujjat nahi..Khair aap nay jo hawala maanga tha woh hazir hay...

Assalam alykum,

bhai sag e(???) Madinah mainey pucha kya is munazrey ki sanad hai?? aap ney jawab kuch aaur diya main sirf imam Auzai rah. aaur imam abu hanifa rah. key darmiyan huey munazrey par guftgu karney ko tayyar ho ... rahi purani baat to pata nahi aap kaisney nahi samjh pa rahey ki wakai hamrey liye hujjat sirf quran wa sunnat hi hai aap maney ya maney.

Janab Qazi Sb...yeh dialogue Musnad Imam Abu Hanifah, Chapter on Raf'ul-yadain main mojood hay.Aur agar aap ko Rafa Ya Dain par debate karni hay tu woh iss forum main pehlay he ho chuki hay.Topic talash karain aur daikhain...

 

Agar phir b koi chain nahihay tu in Sha Allah is topic par baat kar lain gay...Aap ji maslak ke numaindgi kar rahay hain uss main khud rafa yadain k baray main ikhtilaf hay.Laikan agar hum nay woh hawalay add kiyay tu aap wohi apni purani baat par aa jayn gay keh yeh humaray liyay hujjat nahi..Khair aap nay jo hawala maanga tha woh hazir hay...

Assalam alykum,

bhai sag e(???) Madinah mainey pucha kya is munazrey ki sanad hai?? aap ney jawab kuch aaur diya main sirf imam Auzai rah. aaur imam abu hanifa rah. key darmiyan huey munazrey par guftgu karney ko tayyar ho ... rahi purani baat to pata nahi aap kaisney nahi samjh pa rahey ki wakai hamrey liye hujjat sirf quran wa sunnat hi hai aap maney ya maney.

Kya Koi bhai imam abu hanifa aaur imam aauzai key darmiyan huey munazarey jo rafayadain key sislsiley me hua tha uskey baarey me kya sochta hai ki ye munazara hua the ya aik jhooti khabar hai?

is munazarey ko hanfi ulema badey zoor shoor sey masjido key mimber sey bayan kartey hai aaur rafayadain key khilaf badi mazboot daleel samjtey hai aaur sada noh logo ko bewakoof bana kar apni marzi ko deen bata kar us par amal karney mazboor kartey hai aaur bechari bholi awaam allaha key rasool sallallaho allehe wassalam ki mukhlefat ko sunnat samjh kar amal bhi karti hai aaur apney ulemao key bharosey haq parsto sey bahas bhi karti hai allaha khair karey.

Kya Koi bhai imam abu hanifa aaur imam aauzai key darmiyan huey munazarey jo rafayadain key sislsiley me hua tha uskey baarey me kya sochta hai ki ye munazara hua the ya aik jhooti khabar hai?

 

Aap Hazraat ka bahut bahut Shukriya. Allahutala Aap Hazraat ko Jaza-e-Khair Dein. Ameen.

Quran wa hadith me is tarah isale sawab ka koi saboot nahi hai????

regarding masah

 

bhai jaan gardan sar ka hissa khan say aa gai?? saeedi sahib ki yeh nai mantaq hai.

 

Quran mai sar ka zikar hai gardan ka nahi.

 

hadees hai

 

aap Sallahu alihewasallam nay sar ka masah kiya. dono hath sar kay aglay hissa say shuroo kar kay. guddi tuk peechey lay gaye. phir peechey say aagey tuk waheen lay aaye jhaan say shuroo kiya tha.

(bukhari, al wudhu, baab mashul raas kullihe 185)

 

bhai jaan zara aqal say kaam lien. Allah kay nabi nay jesa kiya hai wesa karien. aap loge pehley sar ka masah kartey ho phir kanoo ka kartey ho phir end par alehdah say gardan ka masah kartey ho.

 

aap Bagree ki taraf na bhagien Pagree ki baat aaye gee to wahaan bhi baat ho jaye gee.

aur aap nay jo daleel see hai us mai bhi aap ka maslak sabit nahi hota hai.

 

woh to wohi hai jo hum kartey hain. sar ka masah peechey tuk lay jatey they.

 

jub keh aap ka masla yeh hai hee nahi. aap loge ultey hath kar kay masah kartey ho. nabi nay kabhi aisey nahi kiya hai.

 

3. SEENEY PAR HATH

 

saeedi sahib nay pehla aiteraaz yeh kiya hai keh kya rasool Sallahu alihewasallam nay mard o orat ko seeney par hath bandhney ka hukam kaheen diya??

 

to janab jawaban arza hai keh ALLAH kay nabi nay farmaya hai

Malik bin huweras Raziallahanho nay byan kiya,, kaha hum nabi Sallahu alihewasallam ki khidmat mai hazir huye, hum sab hum omer aur no jawan hee the, aap ki khidmat mubarik mai hamara 20 din o raat tuk qayam kiya, aap barrey he rahem dil aur milan saar the, jub aap nay dekha keh humien watan wapis janey ka shoq hai, to aap nay poocha tum loge apney ghar kisey chor kar aaye ho, hum nay bataya. phir aap nay farmaya acha ab tum ghar jao aur in ghar waloon kay sath raho, aur inheen bhi deen sikhao, aur deen ki batoon par amal karney ka hukam karo, ..........

aur aap sallahu alihewasallam nay farmaya is hee tarhaan namaz parhna jis tarhaan mujhai parhtey huye dekha hai.

(bukhari kitab ul azaan, hadees 631)

 

janab yahaan gorr say parheen ALLAH kay nabi aam hukam day rahey hain. yeh nahi kaha mardoon kay liye namaz alehdah hai aur ortoon kay liye alehda,

 

yeh aap loge hee hain jo hadees mai keerey nikaltey ho. agar nahi mantey to kaho kay nabi Naudhubillah ortoon ka hukam batana bhool gaye the.

 

zer e naaf laney wali jo aap nay kaha hai Hazrat Ali raziallahanho,Abu huzaifa,Abu huraira,Hazrat anas aur wail bin hujar raziallahanhum janab paish karien gay to hum aap ko jawab die gay INSHALLAH. phir us ki hasiyat bhi aap ko bataien gay.

 

aap nay yahaa aik ajeeb baat ki hai Hazrat wali bin hujar raziallah anho ko apni biwi ko seeney par hath rakhney ka hukam daina. aur sath maan bhi liya hai kay zaeef hai. JANAB zaeef hujjat nahi hua karti.

 

aur aik jhoot bol diya hai aap nay MUsannif ibn e abi shaiba par kay alqima ko hukam hua tha wail bin hujar raziallahanho say.

 

yeh riwayat ibn e abi shaiba mai mojood hee nahi hai. isay sab say pehley Qasim bin Qatlo bagha (KAZZAAB) NAY MUSANNIF SAY MANsOOB KIYA HAI(jis ka shahid aap nay bhi diya hai). NAIMOVI HANFI nay qalabaaziaan khatey huye bhi is qatlu bagha wali riwayat ko GHAIR MAHFOOZ yani Zaeef qaraar diya hai(hashia asaar ul sunan H 330) GHALIBAN AAP NAY BHI YEH HEE REFRENCE diya hai.

 

is kay baraqas Wail bin hujar raziallahanho say hee sahih sanad say marvi hai mai nay Rasool Sallahu alihewasallam ko namaz parhtey huye dekha. phir aap nay daiaan hath baien hathili, kalaai aur (sa`ad) bazu par rakha.

(sahih ibn e khuzaima 1/243 h 714, 480)

aur jub aap apna daiaan hath hatheli kalaai aur bazu par rahien gay to khud ba khud hee hath naaf say ooper aaien gay.

 

aur dosree hadees(halab taai raziallahanho) wali mai seenay ka zikar bhi hai.

 

to janab aap ko mey pehley hee asool e karkhi say refrence day chuka hun keh aap loge sahih hadees chorr kar Zaeef o modhu hadees letey ho.

 

maqsad yeh hee hai keh imam ka qol sabit ho jaye.

 

 

Halab tai raziallah anho say riwayat hai

Assalam alykum,

Asim bhai aap ney koi kasar nahi chodi alhamdulliha, shayad ab inki aankh khuley agar inki kismat me hidayat hai, ye log gulami pasand kartey hai aik ummati dusrey ummati ki gulami kar raha hai, jabki khud Imam abu hanifa ramaullaha ne aapne kaoul par amal karney se tab tak mana kiya jab tak ki asal hadith na mil jaye magar afsoos : Allaha farmata hai takleed key radd me sura anaam ayat 153 (6:153) :

"Kah do ki ye hai mera rasta bilkul seedha to tum sirf ise par chalo aaur dusrey rasto par mat chalo we tumhe sahi rastey se behka denge."

Magar dekh ye bahak hi gaye.

Ab kya kahtey ho Saeedi Bhai, Badey josh se zaeef haditho ke sahare soch rahe they ki jawab de diya itna asaan nahi hai bhai allaha ki faouz se takrana, abhi bhi waqt hai choor choor honey se bacho.

Asim bhai assalam alykum, ab yaha par post karney ka koi faida raha nahi, munazarey ka result aa chuka hai,aap ne dekha hi hai,

Main to kaha tha ki sirf 5-6 sawalo me se aik ka bhi jawab agar ba sanad sahih de diya to main hanfi ho jaonga aaur, aap ko apna ameer tasleem kar loonga, magar woh jawab nahi de sakey aaur na qyamat ki subah tak koi jawab de sakega, allaha inhe hidayat naseem karey. huzzat tamam hui, hamney baat pahonch di, ab ye maney na maney inki marzi, kyoki inhe maloom hoga tauba adam ke sunnat hai aaur zeed shaitan ki ye apne aap ko kaha rakhtey hai inki marzi.

agar aap ka orkut par accout hoga to mujse rabta qayam karey, qazi adnan, raipur india search karey aaur mujeh add kar ley phir inshallaha khaylat ka tabadala hoga.

wassalam

Qazi Adnan.

Yaani aapko phir confirm tehqeeq karni parhgi aik aik minute ki warna tehreef hojaegi aur imamat Haram hojaegi, haina? Khair yeh to ese hi kaha maine!

Bhai, barhi umar ke logon ke baare main aksar esa hota hai keh unki tareekh-e-paidaish sabit nahi hoti. Ab jese maine aksar barhi umar ke logon ko dekha jo India se hijrat karke aae hain unko apni tareekh-e-paidaish maloom nahi hoti. Ab farz karain keh un 10 k 10 logon ki umar andazan 80 saal ki lagti hai lekin tareekh-e-paidaish kisi ki sabit nahi hai (yaqin to nahi horaha hoga lekin farz karain keh esa masala paish agaya phir) phir janab kia karainge?

Asim sahib ne to kaha keh Durr-e-Mukhtar ki 21wi ibarat par amal kia jaega yaani "phir log jisse chahain imaam bana dain" lekin yeh to tehreef hogai na bhai....!!! Ab bazahir woh aap se ruju karte hue nazar arahe hain, chalain aapki marzi, yeh bhi apki marzi keh logon se mashwara karna bhi Haram aur shaitani amal hai. bohot ache! Acha to ala tanasul wali baat se kon ruju karega? Qazi sahib inko zara samjhaen keh is par ruju karne ka bhi please.

 

Chalain, aapki is tamam baat ka mafhoom aur Asim sahib ki aik post ka mafhoom aik hi nikalta hai keh aap yeh maante hani keh jo cheez Sahih Hadees se sabit nahi woh tehreef yaani Bid'at hai. Aur har bid'at par amal karna Haram hai aur gumrahi hai aur esa karne wala insaan ya Jinn nahi shaitan hota hai. Janab aik baat aap ko main aur bata dun, aap ne kaha tha tehreef is bunyad par hai keh imamat ki asal 4 sharait hain aur aao 21 maante hain, iska maine jawab dia phir apko ab aap keh rahe hain keh janab jo bhi hai hai to tehreef chahe sharait ho ya kuch hon.

Yaani imamat ke liye naik bande ko tarjeeh dena shaitani amal aur tehreef hai,

imamat ke liye ziyada namaz ke masaail janne wala paish karna shaitani amal hai,

waghera waghera.

Phir aap ne kaha maine Hadees ki tauhin par tauhin ki, yaqin ki jiye aap se mujhe is ilzaam ki umeed na thi. Mujhe barha dukh hua aapki yeh baat parh kar. Baharhaal, yeh masala ab imamat ki sharait se badal kar tehreef aur Bid'at ki taraf jaa raha hai, is par to bohot se topic khule hue hain janab aap ne nae sirre se yeh baat karni chahi imamat ka mozu ta'aruf karwa kar woh bhi direct nahi, pehle khoob aitarazat kiye phir jawab milne par baad main asal baat kahi keh bid'at hai. Bid'at o Tehreef ke mamle main chand aik yeh topics hain,

Phir yeh wala to ghaliban aap hi ke aik Ghair Muqallid bhai ne khola hua hai jo ab ghayab hogae hain, shayad woh sabit nahi kar paa rahe hain to agar aap unki madad kar sakte hain is par to zaroor karain keh "jo Sahih Hadees se sabit nahi uspar amal Haram aur shaitani amal hai":

http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showtopic=6960

 

Baqi yeh topics hain:

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http://www.islamieducation.com/ur/عقائ...-wa-ahkaam.html

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baar baar kab kaha hai? aik hi post par to baat ki hai hijrat ki shart ke mamle par...! Aap bhi na mazak karte rehte hain. lol

Anyways, Bhai to aap ne bataya nahi keh hijrat imamat ke liye shart hai to isko khulle aam aap ki taraf se awazain kiun nahi aatin keh hijrat jisne nahi ki uski imamat Haram aur sarasar tehreef hai aur shaitani amal hai? Agar main ghalat nahi to Hijrat to tabhi ki jaati hai jab kisi ilaaqe rehna hi dushwar hojae aur imaan bachane ke liye hijrat karni parh jaae apna maal waghera chorh kar. Phir aap ki masaajid ke imamon ne esi koi hijrat ki? Warna to musafat kehte ya shift hojana kehte haina? Ab jese koi kuffar ke ilaaqe se behzaar hokar Musalmanon ki saltanat main aae apna imaan bachane ki niyat se keh rehna hi dushwar hogaya, to kahainge keh usne hijrat ki... To jo log Europe waghera Kuffar ke mulkon main jaate hain woh bhi apna Islami mulk chorh kar woh to hijrat nahi hai phir woh imamat kese kar lete hain wahan? Yaqinan woh Tableegh ke liye jaate hain, lekin hijrat karne ke liye thorhi jaate hain...

 

 

 

Jee aap ne sahih kaha keh ab imamat se hatt kar tehreef-o-bid'at tak chala gaya mamla, to behtar hai unhi topics par baat karain jis par pehle ho chuka ho ya horaha ho taake baat dobara ibtida se shuru karain na parhe, warna waqt zaya hoga. Mazrat aik aur baat karna parh rahi hai, keh mere imtahaan bhi shuru hone wale hain, lehaza computer par waqt dena mushkil hojaega. Lekin Alhamdulillah, mere ilm ke mutabik maine poori wazahat kardi hai un aitarazat ki jo Durr-e-Mukhtar par kiye gae the. Ab baat chali Tehreef-o-Bid'at par to is mozu ka sahih tareeqa bhi apko bata dia. Wese yeh mozu par baat ho chuki hui hai dusre topics par. InshaAllah fikar na karain, is topic ko jaari rakhne ke liye aik aur bhai se maine guzarish ki hai woh jawab de dena shuru kardenge aapko. InshaAllah meri kami mehsoos nahi hogi.

Akhri baat yeh keh janaab Asim sahib aap ki akhri post ke hawalat jo diye hain InshaAllah unko mila kar main dekhunga, kuch taqeeq ke baad jawab ya khud dunga ya dilwa dunga. Intazar farmaen!

Mumtaz.

Assalam alykum, brothers

Asim saheb good job. Mera adhey se jyada kaam asim bhai ne kar diya hai, ab mujeh mumtaz bhai aap se kehna hai ki agar jo mushkilat aap ne batai ki ab aap continue nahi kar payenge aapki jagah aapke koi dost is munazarey ko aage le jayege to kya agar aisi mushkil kisi dusrey ke saath pesh aati to aap kisi jabardast alfaz ka istemaal nahi kartey jo aap ne pehle kar chukey hai Khair ham is baat key kayal nahi hamara kaam sirf baat ka pahochana ''BALLIGO ANNI WAL AYA" hai, aap allaha aaur uskey rasool ka kaha maney ya na maney unki shaan me ratti barabar kami aaney ki nahi.

Ham aapkey liye exam me kamyabi ki dua kartey hai allaha aap ko kamyab karey us exam me bhi aaur sab se bade aakhri exam me bhi, aaur aap Allaha key rasool sallallaho allehe wassalam ki risalat ki oonchai ko pehchan le aaur kabhi us shkas ka difa na karey jo aap sallallaho allehe wasalam ke baat me tahreef karey aap ko pata hoga ki hazrat umar bin khattab radiallaha ki sunnat hai ki aisey shaks ki height ko uper ki taraf se 10" (inch) choti kar diya jaye.

Tarikh me aik kissa bada mashoor hai ki aik yahodi aaur aik musalmaan me kisi baat par jhagda ho gaya to woh dono aap sallallaho allehe wasalam key pass aaye to aap sallallaho allehe wasallam ne yahodi key haq me faisala kar diya. ye baat us muslim (munafiq) ko thik nahi lagi usney kaha aik baar hazrat umar se bhi faisla kara liya jaye jab wey log umar radiallaha key pass aye aaur bataya ki aap sallallaho allehe wasallam ne faisla kar diya hai aap ne faoran us munafiq muslim ka sar kalam kar diya aaur farmaya jab aap sallallaho allehe wasallam ney koi baat farma di to phir mujse dobara poochi hi kyo gai.

Aap ney aik baar kaha tha ki aquidey ki buniyad par main aap ka bhai nahi hu. mainey kaha tha aap ka aquida masley me imam abu hanifa ramaullah key muquallid hai aaur Aquidey me Imam Abu Hasan Ashari aaur Imam Abu Mansoor Matoridi key aap ney jawab nahi diya aisa kyo ?

Aaap janey se pehle un sawalo ka jawab de saktey they kyoki woh to bas haa ya nahi me hi diye ja saktey hai. Main aik baar phir se likh raha ho baad walo ko asani hogi.

1. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne zabaan se namaz ki niyat ki ?

2. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne Gardan ka Masah kiya ?

3. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki mard naaf key neechey haath bandhey aaur aaurat siney par ?

4. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki aakhri tashhadud me mard apney ultey pair par aaur aurat bator tawarukh apney kulhe par baithey?

5. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ney hukum diya ki 1 dirham se kam Nizasatey Galize agar kapdo me ya badan par lag jaye to usey dhoye bina namaz ho jayegi?

Chalain khushi hui aik mozu to ikhtitam ko pocha. Alhamdulillah, maine poori wazahat kardi hai jo kuch aap ne poochi. Ab phir bhi aap isko tehreef samjhen yeh apki marzi hai. Asim sahib ne bohot hi be-bunyad batain, agar aap Qazi sahib se poochainge keh kia Durr-e-Mukhtar main ala tanasul ka esa hona wesa hona? Qazi sahib kahainge keh nahi janab aap ne apni kam-aqli se samjha yeh jabkeh Durr-e-Mukhtar main esi koi baat nahi likhi hui. Baqi ki wazahat main kar chuka hun pichli post main hi poori detail hai. Phir Asim sahib ne Durr-e-Mukhtar ki 21wi ibarat qabool karke yaani "phir log jisse chahain imam bana dain" tehreef kar dali Qazi sahib ke usool ke mutabik kiunkeh yeh Imamat wali Hadees main sabit nahi lehaza tehreef hai.

Phir tamasha aap dekh chuke keh meri akhri dandaan shikan post aai to phir mozu tabdeel karne ki soojhi, issi ko maine tamasha kaha tha. Baqi aap ne kuch aur samjha to ap hi ki aql ka fault hai.

Ab InshaAllah main doosra mozu yaani "Sharab se bana hua Sirka" par aik apna hi likha hua article post karunga agli post main. Is se pehle main is imamat wale mozu par aik akhri sawal poochna chahta hun. keh kia imamat ke liye hijrat karna shart hai? Aap keh chuke keh sharaait sirf 4 hain woh Hadees main hai, to ab bataen janab yeh hukm to har sadi (century) main maana jaega warna to tehreef hojaegi baqoul Qazi sahib ke.. phir aap main se kis kis ne hijrat ki hai? Kia Ghair Muqallidon ke har imam ne hijrat ki jo imamat ke liye masjid main itni jaldi taiyar hojate hain? Tabhi to maine hizrat ki wazahat talab ki, taake aap apne alfaaz se aa'iraz na farmain. To ab iska jawab dain. Asim sahib se guzarish hai Qazi sahib ki tarha zimmedar ho kar jawab dain, bila waja kiun left right jaate hain?

 

Allah hamain haq qabool karne ka hosla dai, aur imaan ke masale ko ham apni ana ka masala na banaen. Aammeen.

Assalam alykum, Mumtaz bhai plz bhai baat ko idhar udhar na kar key jald se jald faisley ki taraf laney ki koshish karey, Dekhiye aap baar baar iska matlab uska matlab kah kar kyo time kharab kar rahe hai, thareef matlab tahreef man kyo nahi lete. ab sab ne hijrat ki hai ki nahi ye hua ki nahi woh hua ki nahi ye kya hai bhai mainey pehle hi kaha ki allaha ke rasool sallallaho allehe wassalam ki baat key saath baat oonchi karney key ham kayal nahi ham aap key martabe ka khayal rakhtey hai. ab aap sahebe dur-re-mukhtar ki kalam ki hifazat key chakkar me ye nahi soch rahe ki aap sallallaho allehe wassalam ki mubark hadith (jo ki dar asal allaha ka hi kaul hoti hai) ki tauhin par tauhin kar rahey hai jissey sakt takleef ho rahi hai ? Sawal tha ki KYA RASOOLULLAHA SALLALLAHO ALLEHE WASSALM NEY IMAMAT KA WOH HUKUM DIYA THA YA NAHI. aap ne nahi diya tha baat khatam khallas. kisi Maa ney woh lal paida nahi kiya jo ab aap sallallaho allehe wassalam ki baat ke baad ye sochey ki issey faisala mushkil hai jaisey aap ne kaha ki agar sab 80 saal key ho tab arey bhai agar sab 80 saal ke ho bhi gaye to koi aisa jaroor hoga jo sirf 1 min. hi bada hoga magar hoga jaroor, ye hamara aquida hai. Agar ab bhi kisi ney is faisley key baad koi aaur baat sochi ya kahi to woh insaan aaur Jinn to ho nahi sakta woh sirf shaitan hi hoga, ye hamara aquida hai.

aap baar baar hijrat ka sawal kartey hai bataiye jamat kaha farz hui? phir iska jawab khud mil jayega arey yaar simple hai hijrat aik darja hai jo qyamat tak hoga agar aap ko deen par amal karey se pakistan me roka jaye aaur aap waha se yaha india me aa jaye to aap ko hijrat ka sawab inshallaha milega. phir aap agar mujeh umar me chotey bhi honge to phele imamat ka haq aap ka.

Main ab chahta ho dil se ki aap dusrey sawalo ki taraf aa jaiye aaur agli post me jawab de dijiye ki aap sallallaho allehe wassalam ne woh hukum diye ya nahi, agar jawab nahi dena hai to bhai plz is discussion ko ham band kartey hai.

Assalam alykum,

Mujeh samaj nahi aa raha ki akhir kaha mainey descipline ko hurt kiya ?

Mumtaz bhai mujeh lagta hai aap jawab dena nahi chah rahe 1 mahina honey ko aaya aap mujse hi counter attack kartey hai.

Hazrat Abdullaha bin Abbas radiallaha anhu key pass jab koi masla puchney aata to aap farmatey ki kaya ye waqiya pesh aa gaya agar aa gaya to iska hal bataya jayega warna aap wapis chaley jaye.

Yani ki jab mamla pesh aa jaye to uska hal khoja jayega magar aap logo ka baba adam hi nirala ha pehle mamla soch kar gartey hai phir uska hal bhi apni moti soch se likhtey hai be sir pair ka aaur phir uskey liye jamaney bhar se ladai bhi kartey hai allah khair karey.

Mian aap se baar baar kah raha ho ki apki tahreef dikhana masksad tha woh pura hua.

Ab aap usey shariat samjhey ya jo samjhna hai samjhtey rahiye sahabul ilm ko usseky kuch lena dena nahi hai merey bhai, aap clarification detey rahiye ki iska matlab ye hai woh hai bas. Mera sawal tha Kya Rasullaha sallallaho allehe wassalam ne ye hukum diya kya ? aap ne man liya ki nahi diya baat khatam ho gai ab dusrey ki baat to ham apney pair key jooto par rakhtey hai main pehley hi clear kar diya tha.

Ab app agli post me bachey huey 5 sawal key jawab aik baar me hi de dijiye ki kya rasul allaha sallallaho allehe wassalam ney woh hukum diye ya nahi.

Taki aap ki khawahish key mutabik aagey ki baat shuru karey.

Fi Aman illah

Assalamu'alaiyah!

 

Chaliye mamla aage barhate hain. Aap is baat ka jawab dain keh aapko kis ne bataya keh Durr-e-Mukhtar ki 21 ibaraat dar-haqeeqat imamat ki sharaait hain? Iska jawab dain taake mazeed baat aage barhe. Main apni hifazat pehle hi kardun keh maine to nahi kaha keh woh 21 ibaraat imamat ki sharaait hain.

Walekum assalam,

Aaap ney kaha Aquidey ki buniyad par main aap ka bhai nahi to bhai aap ka aquida kya hai (is par inshallaha agey baat karenge abhi plz isko na ley) jaha tak mera ilm hai aap ko khud pata nahi hoga ki aap log masley me imam abu hanifa ramaullah key muquallid hai aaur Aquidey me Imam Abu Hasan Ashari aaur Imam Abu Mansoor Matoridi key to kya main pooch sakta ho ki aquidey me imam abu hanifa rahmatullah key muquallid kyo nahi hai, kyoki shayad unka aquida ain quran wa sunnat key mutabik hai, aaur unhoney jo liye quran wa sunnat se liya, magar ye alag baat hai ki unse kuch iztehadi khatay ho gai, kyoki wo masoom bil khata nahi hai, aaur mujeh lagta hai bhai aapki post dekh kar ki aap apni islah key kayal nahi hai, to aap ko yaad dila do ki aap bhi masoom bil khata nahi hai (nauzubillaha) agar masoom bil khata koi zaat hai to woh hai Amana ke Lal sallallaho allehe wassalam ke zaat. Aap aquida ki baat kartey hai jabki aap ka firqa barelvi mushkil se 100 saal purana hoga, aaur jismey shia aquidey ki tarjumani aap ko dakhil milegi, phir bhi aap apni islah key kayal nahi, mujeh aik baat bataiye ki agar aap ki baat quran wa hadith se takra jaye tab bhi aap usey chodney ke kayal hai ya nahi?

Ab aap ye na kahey ki naye masley badh rahe hai ye baat yaha tak aa jati hai, aap se guzarish hai ki ab ap woh sawal jo pehle se chale aa rahe hai unkey jawabat agli post me de de taki aage bada jaye.

Rahi baat Dur-re-Mukhtar ki to woh kisi bhi sahibe ilm key liye huzzat nahi hai jo apna imam allaha key pyare rasool sallallaho allehe wassalam ko tasleem karta hai, woh qyamat ke subah ke aakhri namaz bhi aap key tarike se hi padhega inshallaha.

Durr-re-Mukhtar me to thareef hai usko samney lana murad thi woh puri hui, Mashallaha, ab aap sochtey rahiye ki woh sharait imamat ki hai ya nahi jo ilm rakhta hai usney dekha bhi samjha bhi.

Ab aap mumtaz bhai plz bachey huey 5 sawal jo hai unka silsilewar jawab dena shuru kar dijiye.

Assalam alykum, asim bhai

Nawajish key liye shukriya,

Yaqeen...

Assalam alykum,

Mumtaz bhai main to aik cheez pasand karta ho ki agar masley ikhtelaafi bhi hai to hamey apna apa nahi khona chahiye warna ham aap sallallaho allehe wasallam ke wasiyat 'BALLIGO ANNI WAL AYA" ka hukum nahi baza sakenge, hamey apney andar ye madda paida karna chahiye ki sabse upar, aap sallallaho allehe wasallam ke baat aaur zaat ho. us lehaz se bhale he hamarey khayal alag ho saktey hai magar hai to aap merey bhai na, kya sahaba radiallaha me ikhtelaaf nahi huey, magar woh sab waha par jama ho jatey they jaha aap sallallaho allehe wasallam ki baat aa gai. mera yakeen karey main is baat ka kayal hu ki deen me meri ana kisi kabil nahi main har us baat key aage apne sar ko jhukaney ka aaur apni zabaan ka khamosh karney ka kayal ho jab aap sallallaho allehe wasallam ke baat aa jaye.

aap ne mujse jo mutalba kiya

1. Aap sab se pehle yeh maanain keh aap ne ibarat ka ghalat mafhoom bayan kia ya chalain yeh maan lain keh aapko ghalat mafhoom bataya gaya.

Agar aap kehtey hai ki galat mafhoom hai to yahi sahi, kyoki kitaab merey liye to huzzat hai nahi aisa aksar hota hai ki jyadatar mamlat me aadmi aisi baatey failata hai.

Magar bhai kya galat mafhoom bhi hai to aap sallallaho allehe wasallam ke baat ke tahreef nahi hui? aisa kyo ? khamoshi me kya bigad jata.

2. phir yeh maanain keh yeh Ullama-o-Awam-e-Ahnaaf par aik bohtaan bandha tha.

Bhai mera sochna hai ki bohtan woh hota hai jab us baat ki haqiqat na ho, mainey jab khud hanfi rahtey huey mutala kiya to dekha ki bahoo jyada tahreef ki hai, hidaya me, bidaya me, namaz e janaza me taraweeh me ..... aap ye na samjhe ki masle badh rahe hai. ye to haqiqat hai na bhai ki haditho ke hukum ko badla gaya phir bohtan kaisey hua?

3. Phir aap yeh bhi maanain keh Shamsheer bhai ne kabhi yeh nahi kaha keh Durr-e-Mukhtar Ghair-e-Hanafi ki kitab hai aur yeh bhi kabhi nahi kaha keh Durr-e-Mukhtar ki koi hujjat nahi balke maine hi zabardast un par yeh baat chaspa ki.

Mainey to aap ki tarrif ki hai ki aap ne aisey waqt me bhi unhey hanfi manney sey inkar nahi kiya, haan main janta ho ki Durr-e-Mukhtar ahnaaf key liye huzzat hai. (main theek se samjh nahi saka ki aap kya kahna chah rahey hai, agar huzzat nahi hai to aap kah dijiyega ainda us kitab ka hawala main nahi doonga)

4. Phir aap in bohtan aur ghalat bayani se alal ailaania taubah karain aur kahain aainda is masale ko bunyad bana kar kabhi Fiqah Hanafi ki mukhalfat na karunga balke apne hi Ghair Muqallidon ko bhi yeh samjhaunga.

Bhai sahab yaha jara mushkil hai kyoki aisey beshomar masley hai jin par amal hota hai aaur woh quran wa hadith key khilaf hotey hai, phir agar ye buniyad na baney to deen me rah kya jayega. jo masley quran wa hadith ke khilaf hai agar aap kehtey hai ki wo hadith key muwafiq hi hai jaisa aksar kaha jata hai to phir woh hadith pesh kare mamla khud ba khud khatam ho jayega.

Bhai ab rahe merey woh sawalat jin ka mainey jawab manga tha to ho sakta hai ki sawalat idhar udhar ho gaye ho main mafi chahta ho magar buniyadi sawal apni jagah par hai aap ismey se jiska chahe jawab de de.

woh mera khayal hai ye hai

1. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne zabaan se namaz ki niyat ki ?

2. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne Gardan ka Masah kiya ?

3. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki mard naaf key neechey haath bandhey aaur aaurat siney par ?

4. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki aakhri tashhadud me mard apney ultey pair par aaur aurat bator tawarukh apney kulhe par baithey?

5. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ney hukum diya ki 1 dirham se kam Nizasatey Galize agar kapdo me ya badan par lag jaye to usey dhoye bina namaz ho jayegi?

Maine kab kaha keh Sahib-e-Durr-e-Mukhtar Hanafi nahi the? Bostan hai...!

maine kaha yeh hukm jo aap ne bataya hai yeh kisi Hanafi Aalim ne nahi dia keh sharamgah choti ho. aur aap kehte hain maine Sahib-e-Durr e Mukhtar ko ghair-e-Hanafi keh dia...?

 

 

Maine kab kaha Durr-e-Mukhtar kisi Hanafi ki nahi likhi hui? doosra bohtan!

Ab main wazahat karta hai.

Jo masala aap ne bayan kia hai "Imamat woh karae jiska sarr barha aur sharamgah choti ho" yeh masala kisi Hanafi Aalim ne nahi diya. Yaani ibarat ka jo ghalat mafhoom aap ne akhaz kia hai woh kisi Hanafi Alim ka mafhoom aur masala nahi hai. Umeed hai ab aqal main baat agai hogi.

 

 

Is ki wazahat main kar chuke hain ghor se parhain:

Shamsheer-e-Ala Hazrat:

 

Is baare main aap mazeed baat karain, phir InshaAllah aik aur masala aap ko bataunga imamat k baare main.

 

Astaghfirullah! barhi umar ke aadmi, ap ki hi post main quote ki hai is topic ki pehli post main aap dekh sakte hain us post main aap ne 7 masaail cherhe ab mukar rahe hain aur keh rahe hain keh maine to sirf 5 kahe the baqi aap ne apni marzi se barha liye. yeh teesra aur ghatiya tareen bohtaan hai.

 

Aainda se thorha hazir dimaghi ka muzahira ki jiye ga, yeh tanz nahi suggestion hai.

Assalam alykum, shamshir bhai umeed hai mijaz e girami ba khair honge,

haan bhai aapney Mana ki Dur-re-Mukhatar key musannif hanfi they alhamdulliha, aaur ye kitab fiqha me maqbul kitab hai.

Aaur aap ne ye bhi mana ki jo baat kahi gai woh pyare rasool sallallaho allehe wassalam ne nahi kahe. yani aapney sirf imamat key 4 darjey tai kiye they jis par qayamat key roz ki aakhri namaz tak imam tai kiye jayenge.

1. Quran ka quari

2. Sunnat ka jyada janney wala

3. Hizrat me awwal

4. umar me bada.

Ab kya aap ye mantey hai ki aap sallallaho allehe wassallam ki hadith me tahrif ki gai?

Kya aap is tahrif ko jayaz karar detey hai? jismey se aik ye bhi hai ki JISKI BIWI JYADA KHUBSURAT HO.

Aap aaza sodol se kya murad letey hai aap ney thik se wajeh nahi kiya, agar kiya to main thik se samajh nahi paya meharbani hogi is par aaur roshni agar dal patey?

Haan aapki ye baat thik hai ki mainey shruaat me 6-7 masley likhey they magar jab alfaz kharab honey lagey to mainey is masley jis par ham baat kar rahey ko tark karna chaha tha, aaur rafayadain key muddey ko bhi tark karna chaha tha, magar allaha ka shukar hai ki aap inkey jawab dena chahtey hai ye badi pyari baat hai,

Ab aap plz. is maley per jo sawalat ubhar kar aaye hai jo mainey shuru mey likhey hai unkey barey me aap apna aquida clear kar de aaur phir baaki ke sawalo key jawab deney ki meharbahi karey.

sawalat ye they :-

1. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne zabaan se namaz ki niyat ki ?

2. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne Gardan ka Masah kiya ?

3. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki mard naaf key neechey haath bandhey aaur aaurat siney par ?

4. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki aakhri tashhadud me mard apney ultey pair par aaur aurat bator tawarukh apney kulhe par baithey?

5. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ney hukum diya ki 1 dirham se kam Nizasatey Galize agar kapdo me ya badan par lag jaye to usey dhoye bina namaz ho jayegi?

6. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki Charo Imamo mey se kisi aik ki Takleed lazeem hai.

7. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne rafayadain ko mansookh kiya ?

Rabi un Noor sharif main masroofiyat aur safar ki waja se jawab main takheer hone par mazrat chahta hun.

 

Jee nahi, Piyare Rasool Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ne yeh hukm nahi diya. naa hi Ullama-e-Ahnaaf ne yeh kaha hai. Jesa keh main pehle soch chuka tha keh ibaarat ka ghalat matlab Qazi sahib ne bayan kia hai lijiye jawab hazir hai.

Durr-e-Mukhtar, V2, P252 par Matin ne Uzwan likha hai, jiske hashia par Allama Shami ne likha keh baz log is se zakar (yaani sharamgah) muraad lete hain jo durust nahi. Balke a'za ka sadol hona murad hai.

Sar baqi tamam jism ki nisbat barha hona aqal-mandi ki daleel hai, uzoo ka ma'na Sharamgah wohi karega jis ke zehen main woh cheez ho.

Aur jis ke zehen main yeh cheez ho woh yeh masaail bhi apne barhon k par amal karega:

"Gaae ka gobar peshab paak aur halaal hai. (Fatawa Ahle Hadith, V2, P566)

"Mani paak hai." (Fatawa Ahle Hadith, V1, P240)

 

InshaAllah is masale par mazeed behes ki zaroorat paish nahi aegi. haan albatta ullama par jo tohmat lagaai gaee hai us par taubah zaroor karni chahiye!

 

InshaAllah mazeed jawabat jald hazir karunga.

Walekum assalam shamshir bhai

Aaap ne sawal no. 6 ka jo jawab diya hai :-

Jee nahi, Piyare Rasool Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ne yeh hukm nahi diya. naa hi Ullama-e-Ahnaaf ne yeh kaha hai.

Yani aap mantey hai ki rasool e akram sallallaho allehe wassalam ne imamat key masail par ye hukum nahi diya ( AAP KA HUKUM 4 DARZE PAR MUSHTAMIL THA) aage aap ne likha ke ye kisi ullama-e-Ahnaaf ne bhi nahi kaha to meharbani karkey batayenge ki Sahab-e- Dur-re-Mukhtar Hanfi nahi they to phir kya they ? Kaum ki gumrahi door karney me issey badi madad milegi.

Aage aapne likha :-

Balke a'za ka sadol hona murad hai.

In alfaz ki wajahat jaroori hai.

aapne likha ki dur-re-mukhtar kisi ahnaaf ki nahi hai yani aap ke liye hujjat nahi hai to phir aksar aaur beshtar aap ki mahana risaley to deen key muttaliq hotey hai unmey kisi saeel ka jawab detey waqt daleel key taur par is kitab ka naam aata hai iski wajahat karenege.

Baqi jo sawalat aapke amal ke muttalik they silsilewaar unki wajahat kar de mainey pehle 5 hi sawal kiye they aap ne khud unko bada liya. aap inmey se aik ke liye bhi daleel pesh kar de aap merey ameer honge.

Baki rahe aap ke ilzamat unhe aap in jawabat key baad tak key liye multawi kar de in jawabat key baad inshallaha unkey jawabat daleel key saath de diye jayenge.

Abdul Salam

Salam Bhai, Assalam alykum,

Main soch raha tha ki ye log bilkul alimana baat key kabil hi nahi badey afsoos ki baat hai ye sirf jhagda kartey hai jis link par mainey sawalat kiye they woh ye hai. wey waha se yaha aa gaye.

http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?sho...=7273&st=20

Masha Allah and Jazak Allah Bhai, Buhat Achha Jawaab Diya hay Aap Ne. Main Inn Sahib Ke Liye Kuchh Aor Baaten (Inhi Ke Akabreen Ki Kitabon Se) Paish Karta Hoon, Ta Ke Ye Kissi Par Jhoota Ilzam Lagane Se Pehle Apne (Akaabireen Ki) Kitaabon Men Likhi Gaee Baaten Zaroor Yaad Karen.

 

 

(1) Mushtarika Londi Se 3 Aadmi Ek Hi Waqt Men Suhbat Karen, Aor Peda Hone Wale Bache Ke 3non D'awedar Hon, To Faisla "Lucky Draw" Se Hogga, Jiss KA Coupan Nikle Ga, Uss Ko (Prize Men) Bacha Diya Jaega. ( Naz Lul Abraar, Jild 2/ Page 75)

 

(2) Agar Kissi Shakhs Ne Apni Biwi Ki Maan (Apni Saas) Ke Saath Zinna Kiyya, To Uss Par Uss Ki Biwi Harram Nahi Hoggi ( Naz Lul Zbraar, Jild 2/ Page 28)

 

(3) Mutt'aa (Paise Ki Lain Dain Ke B'ad Zinna Karna) Ja'iz Hay Naz Lul Abraar, Jild 2/ Page 34)

 

(4) Ghair Aorat Ka Doodh Badi Umr Wale Aadimi Ko Pilana Ja'iz Hay, Agarchay Dadhi Wala Ho, Ta Ke Uss Mard Ko Dekhina Iss Aorat Ko Ja'iz Ho Jae ( Naz Lul Abraar, Jild 1/ Page 77)

 

(5) Mard Apni Biwi Ka Doodh Pee Sakta Hay (Fatawa e Nazeeriya Jild 2/ Page 96 )

 

I Think Itna Kaafi Hay, Shaayad Mazeed Ye Qazi Sahab Hazam Na Karr Saken.

ASSALAM ALYKUM,

YAHA MAIN AIK BAAT KAHNA CHAHTA HO SHAMSHEER BHAI NEW JO JAWAB DIYA HAI USKEY BAAREY ME BAAD ME BAAT KAREY PEHLE JO BAATEY KAHI GAI UNKEY BAAREY ME KAHNAH CHAHTA HO.

KI AAP YE BAAT BAHOOT DHAYAN SE ITMINAAN SE SUN LE KI BAATEY QUOTE KI GAI HAI WOH MERE LIYE YA KISI BHI SAHIBE MOHAKKIK KEY LIYE KABILE HUZZAT NAHI HAI KYOKI HAM SIRF AAUR SIRF QURAN WA SUNNAT KO HUJJAT SAMJHTEY HAI. IN BAATO KEY BAAREY ME MERA FAISLA SOON LEY.

JINHONEY IN BAATO KO LIKHA JINHONEY IN PAR AMAL KIYA AAUR JISNEY ISEY HUZZAT SAMJH WOH AHLE HADITH HO KYA MUSLIM HI NAHI CHAHE WO KOI BHI HO ALLAHA ISKEY LIKHNEY WALEY KO, ISPEY AMAL KARNEY WALEY KO, ISEY HUZZAT SAMJHNEY WALEY KO DUNIYA ME KUTTEY KI JINDAGI ATA KAREY, KUTTEY KI JAISI MAOUT DE, AAUR ROZE QAYAMAT ME JAHANNAM KE SABSE NECHLEY HISSEY ME PHENK DE CHAHE LIKHENEY WALA YA AMAL KARNEY WALA MERA BAAP (WALID) HI KYO NA HO. AMEEN YA RABBUL ALAMEEN.

AB AAP SAB SE MERI GUZARISH HAI KI HAMARA DHAYAN US TARAF DILAYE JAISI HAMARA KOI AMAL KISI HADITH KEY KHILAF HO, YA KISI ZAEEF HADITH KO HAM SAHIH SAMJH KAR AMAL KAR RAHE HAI YA PHIR QURAN KEY KISI HUKUM KO HAMNEY GALAT SAMJH HO TO HAM AAP KEY SHUKRGUZAR BHAI HONGE. KYOKI HAMAREY LIYE HUZZAT SIRF QURAN WA SUNNAT HAI YE KHAYAL RAKHEY KYOKI JO BAAT QURAN WA HADITH SE TAKRAYE CHAHE WOH HAMAREY BAAP KE BAAT HO WOH CHULHE ME JAYE YA HAMAREY PAIRO KEY JOOTO ME HAME FARQ NAHI PADTA.

MAIN JAHA PAR SHAMSHEER BHAI SE BAAT KAR RAHA THA WAHI KARNA CHAHTA THA MAGAR UNHONEY IDHAR KA RUKH KIYA, AAUR BAAD ME MUJEH ILZAM DETEY KI MAIN IDHAR UDHAR BAAGH JATA HO. ISLIYE MAINEY JAWAB DIYE JABKI WOH UDHAR SE IDHAR BHAG AAYE. UNHONEY JO JAWAB DIYE USKEY LIYE AGLA POST ME DISCUSS KARENGE.

aap ko bataya tha na keh is discussion ko continue rakhne ke liye aap ke woh 5 se ziyada (jin ko ab aap sirf 5 tak mehdood karrahe hain apni hifazat ki khatir) doosre topi....

Bada afsoos hai ki aap jo language istemaal kartey hai woh alimana nahi hai khair. aap mujeh ilzaam detey hai main idhar udhar bhaag raha ho to mujeh bataiye ki IDHAR SE UDHAR kaun gaya main jo baat karoonga yahi karoonga.

Mera khayal hai ki aap us masley ki taraf ishara kar rahe jo imamat key muttaliq aap logo ney garha hai. to main woh hadith pesh kar raha jo imamt key muttaliq hai :-

Nabi Akram sallallaho allehe wassalam ne farmaya ki Imamat karey logo ki wah jo sabse Jyada Quran ka Quari ho aaur agar Quirat key mamley me sab barabar ho to phir Sabse jyada Sunnat ko Janney wala imamat karey agar ismey sab barabar ho to sabse pehle hizrat karney wala imamat karey aaur agar ismey sab barabar ho to phir jo umar(age) me bada ho wo imamat karey (Sahih Muslim Hadith No. 1422)

Ab hamara ye aquida hai ki ye huzzat hui aaur qyamat ki subah tak ye 4 darze imamat key liye tai pa gaye. Magar chooki aap logo ka bina rasool sallallaho allehe wassalam se ikhtelaaf kiye khana hazam nahi hota. pehele aap logo ne HIDAYA (Jisey aap log Quran ke Mannid kahtey hai Nauzubillaha) me in charo key darze badal diye mulaheza ho aap logo ne likha

1. Sunnat ka sabse jyada jaane wala 2. Quran ka qari 3. Sabse jyada nek 4. sabe jyada age wala

Dekha aap ne charo darze idhar udhar kar diya aaur hizrat ko gayab hi kar diya.

issey bhi ji nahi bhara to 21 darze aaur garh liye woh ye hai.

1. Sabse jyada namaz key hukum jaaney wala

2. Sabse achchi tilawat wala

3. sabse jyada nek

4. sabse jyada age wala

5. sabse achchey chal chalan wala

6. sabse jyada khubsurat shakal wala

7. sabse sharif nasal wala

8. sabse achey libas wala

9. sab barabar ho to parchi dal le

10. ya Phir log pasand kar ley

11. sablse jyada Raounak shakar wala

12. sabse badi nasab wala

13. sabse achi awaz wala

14. sabse khubsurat biwi wala (Nauzubillaha)

15. sabse jyada maal wala

16. Sabse bade sar wala aaur choti sharmgah wala (Nauzubillha deho lanate ho in par allaha ke)

17. sabse jyada darze wala

18. musafir key mukabley me mukeem

19. phir azad, azad kiye gulam key mukable par

20. phir wazo key badley tayyammum wala, gusal key badley tayyammum wala

21. phir log jisey chahe imam bala le (Dur-re-Mukhtar)

Dekha aap ne ab mera kahna hai ki jab 4 darze tai hai to in 21 ki kya jaroorat khair agar aap ko hai to raha karey magar aisa to na kahe ki allah key rasool ne kab farmaya ...... aisa aaur aisa..... Ham apni baat rasool sallallaho allehe wassalam se past (nichi rakhney key kayal hai)

Aap ka kehna ghalat hai, ap usko hujjat maante hain jisko Imam Bukhari Radi Allahu Anh ne apni Sahih main likha. Aap ke mutabik Hadeeth wohi hai jo Imam Bukhari ne kahi, baqi to... Allah muaf karre aap kia kia kehte hain. Aur Imam ka qoul wohi hai jo Nabi Sallallahu Alaihi Wasallam ne kiya. Nabi ne alag alag a'maal kiye to har Mujtahid ke apne ilm ke mutabiq konsa amal chalna chahiye, us par wohi daleel paish karte hain.

Ab aap maney ya na maney key bukari huzzat nahi hai balki 1200 saal se sarey key saarey firqo key ulmao ka aik ijmah sa hai ki bukari ki saari hadith sahih hai iskey aisi kuch hadithey jaroor hai jimey aap sallallaho allehe wasslam aaur imam bukhari key bich sirf 4 rawi hai magar woh 7-8 hai bas. jab ham baat karey to woh aisi ho ki ilzaam na lagaya jaye jis cheez ko manney ka mainey dawa karo aap usmey kharabi dikhaiye Jaiye ki quran wa sunnat bat merey liye imam bukhari, muslim, tirmidhi, wagira huzzat nahi hai balki inhoney jo kaam kiye hai woh agar sab key nazdeek sahi karar pai hai to us kaam ki main bhi izzat karoonga.

jhoot bolte hue aap ko sharam nahi aati... Astaghfirullah!

Aap ne in ka jawab nahi diye jo keh main pooch chuka tha third last post main:

Mera khayal hai ab mainey kafi detail me answer de diye hai ab usmey koi cross question na kar key aap mere sawalat ke jawat denge aisa mera sochna hai

Yeh to pehle hisse ka jawab hua, shukar hai kuch to kaha. Phir doosre hissa ka jawab nahi diya keh "Agar naa to Hanafi Fiqah hi ko topic par kiun nishana banaya gaya? Seedha keh dete keh Fiqah aur chaaron mazahib hain hi Sahih Ahadeeth k khilaaf." Iska jawab bhi irshaad farma dain. Phir akhir main aap yeh bhi keh dain keh chaaron aaimah ne Quran aur Sahih Ahadeeth se ikhtilaf kar ke Deen main phoot paida kardi hai ya phir bhi Sahih hain? Akhir aap bhi sochain, keh kia yeh bohot barha jurm hai Deen main phoot paida kardena?

Ji Nahi sirf hanafi fiqah nishana nahi banta balki sabhi bantey hai magar chooki is barey sagir (Hind-Pak) me hanafi jyada hai isliye hanfi fiqah jyada nishana banta hai waran 4ro ne kahi na kahi rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wassalam se ikhtelaf kiya hai. Aap logo ka kahna hai 4ro haq hai to kai aik aisey masley hai jismey 4ro key alag alag rai hai phir woh 4ro haq kaisey huey main likh deta ho warna aap agle post me merey sawalo ke bajaye in par he bahas karenge mujeh pata hai, woh ye hai :-

1. Darul Harb me Kafir se Sood ka lena dena karna Hanfi majhab me halal aaur dusrey majhad me haram

2. Haiwan ki bai salam hanfi me haram, dusrey me halal

3. Zabardastri ki talaak hanfi me ho jaati hai, dusrey me nahi

4. Hiba ki hui cheez hanfi me wapis li ja sakti hai dusrey me nahi.

5. Quran ki Mazdoori hanfi me Haram dusrey me Halal.

6. Tawaf ke liye hanfi me paaki shart nahi, shafi aaur hambli me shart hai.

Ab meri aap se gujarish hai in mamlat me mujse aaur kuch na poochey pehle mere woh sawal jo main 5 he kiye the aap ne unko khud bada diye ab badey huey sawalo me se kisi aik ka bhi ba daleel Sahih answer dekar merey ameer ban saktey hai. Kyoki jo log yaha visit kar rahe hoonge agar woh imandar hai to woh dekh rahey hai ki sawalat key jawabat dene se kaon bach raha hai.

In ke jawab nahi diye!

Ab dobara yeh ratt na lagaiye ga keh "mere 5 sawal mere 5 sawal", 8 pooch kar 5 tak mehdood karne ki munafiqat aapki to nazar agaee hai. aur Deobandi to hai hi Ghair Muqallid ka chota bhai, to agar woh promote ho kar barha bhai ke darje tak agaya to is main ajeeb baat kia hai? Aap ka woh masaail doosre topic kar discuss ho chuke hain aur apko maloom hi nahi.

Mainey aapkey rafayadain, fatiha khulfil imam ka jawab diya tha aap ne padha nahi ki jo shaks pehle ye tasleem karey ki sarwarey Qynat hazrat Mohhammed sallallaho allehe wassalm ko woh apna imam manta hai ussey hi rafayadain, faitiha aaur digar mamlo par baat karna chahiye. Rahi baat deobandio ki to woh to becharey Hanafi hai aap ki tarah aap key hi bhai aap yaha kya bhaiyo key saath aisa bartao hota hai

Ab mera khayal hai aap key saarey jawabat mainey de diye ab aap ki baari hai merey sawalat ka yahi jawab de dusri jagah jaane waley ko aap bhagoda kahtey hai isliye main nahi chahta ki aap par bhi woh baat lago ho isliye yahi de aaur ab meharbahi karey ki koi cross question na karey agar aisa hai to unhey note kar le aaur apney answer key baad mujse pooch le main jawab deney ka wada karta ho.

1. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne zabaan se namaz ki niyat ki ?

2. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne Gardan ka Masah kiya ?

3. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki mard naaf key neechey haath bandhey aaur aaurat siney par ?

4. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki aakhri tashhadud me mard apney ultey pair par aaur aurat bator tawarukh apney kulhe par baithey?

5. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ney hukum diya ki 1 dirham se kam Nizasatey Galize agar kapdo me ya badan par lag jaye to usey dhoye bina namaz ho jayegi?

Abhi tak itney he they aap ne aage badha diye to aage key ye hai.

6. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ney hukum diya ki imamat ki sharait me sab barabar ho to imamat woh karey Jiska Sar bada aaur Sharmgah Choti ho.

7. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki Charo Imamo mey se kisi aik ki Takleed lazeem hai.

8. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne rafayadain ko mansookh kiya ?

Ab ye 8 sawal huey bina koi cross question kiye huey agar aap sach me muslim hai to inkey jawab dena shuru karey.

Acha, aap ne akhir jaan lia keh aap phaste chale jaa rahe hain to ab un masaail ki aarh main idhar udhar jaa rahe hain. Aap ki yeh chik chik band karne ke liye maine aik alehda topic bana diya hai:

http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showtopic=7364

 

Chalain, ab aap sharafat se yeh discussion continue karain aur meri pichli post ke sawalat ka jawab dain.

Kamal hai mainey aap key saarey sawalo key jawabat de diye phir bhi aap kah rahe hai jawab de, kya merey sawalat key aap jawab nahi dena chahte, thic mainey to aap sey kaha tha ki aap qyamat ki subah tak jawab nahi de sakte kyoke ye wahi sawal hai jo aaj se 45 saal pehle pakistan me hazaro logo ki hidayat ka jariya baney they ye meri last post hai agar aap ne kal woh 5 sawalo key jawab de diye to mujeh allaha ki kasam hai ki main phir koi sawal karo main yaha aap ke 1000 sawalo key jawab doonga pehle aap de kyoki aap ne abhi tak aik bhi sawal ka jawab nahi diya

Mujeh pata hai aap phir jor jor se kahenge ki farar ho gaye, agar aap jawab denge to jab tak mere jism me jaan hai main aap se baat karta rahonga warna topic khatam

Sawal aik baar phir note karey aap to khair barelwi hai inka jawab to 45 saal pehle deobandi mufti se dete nahi bana aaur unhone haq ko qubul kar liya.

1. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne zabaan se namaz ki niyat ki ?

2. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne Gardan ka Masah kiya ?

3. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki mard naaf key neechey haath bandhey aaur aaurat siney par ?

4. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ne hukum diya ki aakhri tashhadud me mard apney ultey pair par aaur aurat bator tawarukh apney kulhe par baithey?

5. Kya Rasoolullaha sallallaho allehe wasslam ney hukum diya ki 1 dirham se kam Nizasatey Galize agar kapdo me ya badan par lag jaye to usey dhoye bina namaz ho jayegi?