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Syberite Sab: many thanks to you that have post the page but pls pos this page in urdu mujy farsi nahe ati, i hope you will do this. pls reply me 1) Jo Alfaz Shah Ismeil Shahid nay kahay kia aisa khany say insan Kafir hojata ha 2) Agar koe aisay iman walay ko kafir na kahe tou kia wo muslam rahay ga 3) Fawadi farida ko app nay kuffriya Kalma kaha ha, kia jo Allam es book ko mustanan/moutbar janay aur write ko Allah ka Wali like words use kary then kia wo musalman hoga. 4) jo insan above Alam jo Fawaday faridia ko mustanand kahta us ko allam jany kia wo insan be Kafir hoga, ( i mean if Allam A said tht Fawaday Faridiya is good book and you said allam A is moutabr allam then you will remian muslim. Apki tamam batoon ka RAD ulma deoband ki kitab Ebaraty Ekabar main ha, study this shayad App ki Kismat main Allah nay hadayat lekhi ho. hope your reply will be only to the point i mean yes or not thanks bella

Syberite sab, ghalat matlab nekalna tou koe barelvion say sekhay, apkay Molvi umer sab khud kahrahain hain k this books is from Shah Wali Allah and many ulma hind nay mutafika fatwa diya ha, kia wo sary ulma hind jo shayad barelvi he hoon gay nay diya tha. mainy gowahe app ka ghar say di ha, Insha Allah agar koe dosari milli tou bi post karoon ga. so you can not denay that this book is no Shah Wali Allah, mainy jo baat ki wo akal mandoon kay liya thi magar app main-------------, Syerite sab, ap kay aik motbar member nay fatawa diya ha app ki site par radingali shab aisa kuch name ha, magar legta ha kay usnay Kutti ka dood piya ha eslia abtak reply nahe kia, 1)Ab ak kay simay ha tell me the name of that ulma that give fatawa against Shah Wali Allah, if there is not any name then write here that your movli umer nay jooth n nay lekha ha wo kazab ha. 2) jo takabali jaiz mainy post kia of quran tarjam of shah wali Allah, there is write tarjam if gustakhana, eska be jawab dyana, Ajmari: shayad ap nay topic ka name nahe para, topic tha kia ye sach ha, magar app nay kaha k this is wrong so you have to proof this looking forward your reply

Toheedi Sab, Ye Lali poop barelvion k lia acha ha, mager afsoos barelvion ko tou chahya tha ka app kay reply par wa wa wa kartay, karajay tahseen pash kartay but jo barelvi nahe wo achi tarah say Janta ha ki ALBALGH ALMUBEEN kiss ki kitab ha, Shah Wali Allah ka tarzay tahri he ko app check karlatay tou may be aisi baat na kartay. Hadayat Allah kay Pass ha AIK FATAWA KA INTZAR HA BARELVION KI TARAF SAY JIS MAIN SHAH ISMAIL KO KAFIR KAHA GIA HO, MAGAR APP KAY BARELVI BAHE NAY JAWAB NAHE DIYA, EVEN MAINY KAHA THA K AGAR TUM NAY MAAN KA DOOD PIYA HA THEN WILL REPLY BUT IF KISSI KUTTI KA THEN WILL NOT REPLY, ABI TAK JAWAB NAHE AYA SO MAIN KIA SAMJOON???????????????????

Jinab Barelvi sab, okay you mentioned that my post is not related to the topic, do you confirm me that these books FAwady-faridiya, Diwan-e-Mohammadi & third mentioned book are not from your scholar, if not then i start new topic to sure that these books from your scholare, if your answer is yes then ---------------- as concern to the post you have posted, Insha Allah i will reply you App YAKI ROSI KA PAGE SCAN POST KARDAIN ummed ha you will do it pls reply me about above books then i will proceed.

Qadri Attari Sab, Shayad post ko appnay sahi nahe para, app nay b book scan kardi aur mainy b books batadi aur faisal AWAM par chor diya, ap par nahe. App logo tou khud books lekhtain hain wo munkar be jatain ha, example kay tor par aik email scan post ha. tumhar aik alam nay en books ka inkar kia ha, jabkay baki en books ka mustanand honay ki gawahi dyrahain ha. SHAM AT ALL YOU BARELVi

Barelvi kay Ala Hazrat Imam Ash'Shah Ahmed Raza Khan kia hain wo mujy batanay ki zarurat nahe, i will try to trace these books

Barelvion ki gustakhian, dear reader agar app barelvion ki gustakhian jo Ambia AS, Wali Allah etc ki shan main ki hain then app following books ka matalia karain, faisala app par chorta hoon kay GUSTAKHAY RASOOL SA KON, deoabd yan barevli 1)- Gustakhay Rasool SA kon 2) barta ja sharmata ja 3) damaka 4) Barelvi fitnay k nia roop 5) Raza khani mazab jild1,2 & 3 by Moulana Saeed Ahmed Qadri 6) Bidate aur bidati by Moulan Sarfraz Safdar 7) paglon ki kahani 8) tarma kinzul iman ka taqub There are also many others books, you can read all these books on Alhe Sunnat wal Jammat

Jinab Barelvi sab (Ali & Toheed) open your eyes and ready it, shah Wali Allah ka tarjam urdu main nahe bilkay Farsi main lekha ha, aur kinzul iman main esko b bayadab aur gustakh lekha ha, SHAM AT YOU ALL

Jinab Touheed sab, Frist of all this topic is related to Shah Wali Allah not any barelvi, deoband or wahabi App nay kaha k Molvi Umer nay ghustakh nahe lekha mager Touheed Sab agar ap ki eyes week ha then koe lens use karlain aur ghor say study Karin. Molvi sab lekhtain hain, Shah Wali Allah nay Anbia AS aur Auliya ki toheen main books publish kin, aur tamam ulma islma nay mutfika SHAH WALI Allah par kufar ka fatwa diya aur shoor barpa hogia k Shah Walli Allah wahabi banchuka ha, kia ap ki nazar main wahibi gustakh nahe hain? Kinzul Iman k tarjama ka takabali scan kar raha hoon koe anda he hoga jis ko nazar nahe aye ga k esmain clear mentioned ha that translation is bayadab and Gustakhana, I do not want to say any thing more, Alko aljil, ye lali pop jihal logon ko daina, okay aik sab nay kaha tha kay this was written about Shah Ismail but by mistake there is name of Shah wali Allah but there were also a post that Shah Wali Allah gustakh ha (by Ali) that been deleted tell me Touheed sab posts why deleted here. The pages I have upload pls read it very very carefully and then decide because you have to die one day if you will protect your ulma if they wrong then what will happed with you, sure you will in hell ALI =================================================== apny bohat try ki kay galiz zaban use karnay main apny Mujadad Ahmed raza say barjay magar tum pher fail hogay. Agar tum nay apni Mother ka doud piya ha then tum Shah Ismail k kafir honay ka kisi barelvi ulma ka fatwa post karo gay aur agar kissi KITTI KA DOOD piya ha tab koe fatawa nahe post karsako gay. I will wiat for your reply either you have drink you mother milk or kissi Kutti k doud.

janab baat Shah Wali Allah ki horahe ha, Deoband wahabi ki nahe. maira sawal tha k Shah SAb ka tarjama Gushtakhana aur Shah Sab wali how it is possible. aur tarjama ka takabali jaiz b kinzul imman main para tha. jawab wo 2 jo sawal ha. mainy kissi doeband wahabi ki baat nahe ki SHAH WALI ALLAH KI BAAT horahe ha

Ali, Apni zaban ko lagam 2. mujy tou tum aqal say faragh legtay ho. pahly shah wali Allah ko Gustakh lekha aur wo post delete kardi ab tumhara biyan kuch aur ha. Tum nay Shah ismail ko Kaffir kaha ha, kia koe fatawa ha ulma Barelvion k Shah ismail Kafir ha. agar ha tou post karoo warna apny damagh ko hazar karkay lekha karo. Shah Wali Allah ko Wahabi lekha ha tumharay bakool then kia do u think wahabi gustakh nahe hain if yes then Shah Wali Allah kun nahe. Mikasy Hanfiyat ki ibrat ko printing ki ghalti======== Ali sab kuch aqal say kam loo, kia writer nay aisa kaha tha, kia es ki tardeed hoe ha kaheen par according to writers Aur jo Ahmed Raza ka tarjama kay takabali jaiza main Shah Wali Allah ka tarjama ko Gustakha aur bayadab lekha ha then tell me if tarjama gustakhana ha then lekhnay wala (shah Wali Allah) kaisay wali ban gia Jawab sooch samaj kar dia karo takay baad main post delete na karana paray bold part ka reply must karnay

ULma Barevi Shah Ismail ko kafir kun nahe kahtay, mainy jitna be boeband barelvi ikhtalaf study kia ha barelvi ko masail main deoband say ikhtalaf nahe sirf ibarat ko boora kaha gia ha, jab kay mainy fiqa main study kia ha jabtak insam kud kuffar ka ilan na karday wo kafir nahe i mean agar aik ibarat ka matlab 99 kufir ki taraf jata aur 1 ka matlab acha ha then ham acha matlab he lain gay. jo ibarat Ulma barlvi doeband par lagatain hain es bohat c ibarat doeband barelvi ulma par lagatay hain tou kia ham kam ilam waly kia samjain k doono ghalat hain. barelvi ulma apni ibarat ka matlab bohat acha nikaltay hain aur doeband b. Some one tell me hum jahain to kidar jain. kon galat ha ko sahi kuch samah nahe ata. aik taraf Barelvi ulma kahtain hain k doband nay ahmed raza khan ki tarif kia aur dossari taraf Peer mahr ali, karam ali aur bohat say alam hain jo doeband kay akabar ko wali kamal kahtain hain. kisi nay amkany kazab k mutalak Saeen Tawakal say rahy talab ki to saeen sab nay tou yahan tak hadia K RASHID AHMED GONGOHE KA KALAM ARSH KAY SAYE TALAY CHALTA HA. Ahmed Raza sab nay RAshid ahmed Gungohe aur Qasim ali nanootavi ko wali lekha ha. so tell me ye sab kia ha. ham kun apna waqat waist karahay hain. jahan dekho masail par koe bahas nahe only ibarat jis par kufir ka fatawa b lagana mushkal ha. tell me why Ahmed raza did not call shah ismail kafir even write in all books that, ismail ko kafir na kaho, this is right path aur esmain he salamati ha. what is this

Pls read these and confirm me Kia Shah Wali Allah b Gustakhay Rasool SA aur Wahabi deobandi tha untitled.bmp batsh09%20033.bmp 1.bmp 1.bmp 2.bmp

pls some one confirm, this is all true That ajmairi sharif said below about Ahmed Raza