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Bahe Jaan, Allah tala Nay farmaya ha kay MAIRI MUBAT AYR NABI SAW KI MOHABAT AUR ITAT JAB KAY magar nechay ibarat main kaha ja raha ha kay mairi muhabat aur mairi he itat. yaar kitini buri baat ki ha es nay kiya kiya ha app ka? kiay ye rashid ahmed gangohe say buri ha ya nahe.

Bahe Jaan, Ap ki post kafi informative hoti hain, magar yaar sirf doeband par he zoor mat saraf karo baki loogon ko b pakro. kuch ibarat main post karaha hoon, unkay mutalak b apni ray qayam karana kay wo be gangohe Tarakay hain yan esay b bura. 1)- Mairy murshad kay arshadat ki jo Mukhalfat kary gay agar dunyan main saza na milly tou Akhrat main zarur milly gi ( mairy khiyal main ye gangohe say b 4 kadam agay ha Kiya kiyal ha Bahe jan apkay) baki 2 urdu main post karha ha hoo. Bahe jan apni opnion must dyna kay ye gangohe say zada buray hain yan nahe. aur baki logon ki b ibarat main post karoon ga but first in kay mutalak opinion post karain

Sunny Prince, baat ko lambi nahe khatam karo, umeed ha kay tum wo page post kardo gay, Warna faisla tumhary khilaf jata ha Chisti aur rizwi sab ap 2no nay b abi tak page scan post nahe kiya. Agar Sunni Princes page scan na karsaka then wo jotha ha aur agar tum b page scan na karsaky then tum 2no b jothay ho. Umed ha tum dono Barevli deoband page scan kardo gay, warna umed karta hoon ap loog koe aur post nahe karogay.

Chisti Sab, Mainy pura topic dykha ha magar mujy jo Pir Karam Ali Shah ki book kay page nazar aye yahan post kar raha hoon. Chisti Qadri aur Rizwi sab MAIN AP 2NO KO AIK BAR PHIR KAHA RAHA HOON KHUDA KAY LIYA AGAR TUN 2NO KAY DIL MAIN AIK ZARA BRABAR B IMAN NAME KI CHEEZ HA TOU PIR KARAM ALI SHAH SAB PAR BHOTAN LAGANA BAND KARO AGAR TUM 2NO APNY DAWA MAIN SACHAY HO TO PIR KARAM ALI SHAH KI BOOK KA SCAN PAGE JIS MAIN YE LEKHA HO K MAIN QASIM ALI NANOTAVI KO KHATMAY NABUWAT KA MUNKAR SAMAJTA HOON aur kafar ka fatwa dyta hoon PLS PLS PLS POST KARIN. mujy kissi beoband wahibi ki kitab ka hawala nahe chahea, Umeed ha ab ap fazool post nahe karo gay aur book ka scan page post karo gay, agar nahe tou es topic say Qasim ali nanotavi ka name khatam kardo. Aur Ashraf Ali Thanvi par dil bar kar bahas karo.

Bahe, Thanks for clearification, ab main pata karoon ga k shariyat es kay mutalak kiya kahti ha. mager aik baat explain kardain TAQAT MAZBI KI BAAT ki baat b ki ha yan sirf azadi ki??? Ahmed RAza sab nay Malfuzat main lekha ka k Wahabi Deoband kay liya due fazul ha wo deen main kabi lout kar nahe ayen gay etc, aisi kafi ibarat mairi nazar say guzri hain agar ap ko shak ha then mujy kuch time dain i will scan these pages, agar shak nahe then reply about this

Mukhtar sab, Legta ha k agar koe ap say sawal puchay tou deoband hojata ha ap ki naze main. bahar hal main es par baat nahe karoon ga. mainy sirf ap say siwal kia tha k mainy khud para ha kay Pir Karam shah Sab nay Qasim ali Nanotavi ko Khatamin nabuwat ka munkar nahe kaha. agar ap kay pass unki koe wording ha jiss main Pir sab nay lekha ha tou pesh karain. warna mujy kahain main wo page post kardyta hoon. Baki Jo ap nay deoband ki kitab main kiya lekha ha wo deoband jany aur ap main pir sab ki baat kar raha hoon Alafaz repeat kar raha hoon PIR KARAM ALI SHAH SAB KI. agar ap pir sab ka hawala dysaktain hain to post karin warna apnay alfaz wapas lain. Umed ha ap kissi wahabi doeband kitab ka hawala nahe daingay sir Pir Karam Ali shah sab ki kitab ka wo page scan karin gay jis main unhoon nay Qasim Ali nanotavi jo Munkar lekha ha

Usman Bahe, chanda rugulary lyna yan kabi kabi lyna baat aik he ha, Ap kun Ahmed Raza Sab kay fatwa kay khilaf baat kar rahy ho. Baki due ki baat ha to wo sab kay liya karni chaya, k Ya Allah Sab ko Adayat dy deen islam ki taraf sab ajain. esmain Hindu Kafir yahoodi sab atay hain. Agar sab kay liya due karna galat ha then fatwa peshkaro. Ahmed Raza Sab nay sirf deoband wahabi najdi ka kaha ha kay enkay liya dua nahe karni chahya agar baki ka be lekha ha then please mairi information main b ezafa kardain. Baki Shahid Sab ap khud explain kardain kay ap ko kun baab kiya giya tha. Umeed ha Ap sach bolain gay.

Mukhtar sab, pls aik baat dil main khatak rahe ha, kay jo kuch ap nay lekha ha agar darust ha tou Pir Mahr ali Shah sab aur Pir Karam ali Shaha sab nay deoband par fatwa kun na lagay. Pir Karam Ali Shah sab nay Tahzirunas mairi nazar main lekh kar doeband ka sath na diya jis main mainy khud para ha jis main pir sahab nay lekha ha k main Qasim ali nanotavi ko Khatmay Nabuwat ka munkar nahe samaj ta, aur apni tafser main 29 jaga deoband alam ki books ka hawla diya kia us nay Ahmed Raza say ghadari nahe ki, pls es ko explain kardain, bohat mahar bani ho ge.

Salar bahe mazrat kay sath, ye hansnay ki baat nahe ha, aik admi ki munafkat ki baat horahe ha, kun es nay faisla ghalat kiya tha, Salar Bahe aik barlvi agar ghalat baat kary tou kia ap usko sport karo gay. aur jab Shahid sab ko wohan par chalange kiya gia tab bag gay, es harkat par ban na hota tou kiya es ko har pahnay jatay. Main yahan sirf ye baat karna chahta hoon k ye GM jidhar jatain hain bigar he pada kartain hain, Shahid sab mairay pas 19 question hain jiss ka agar ap tamam question ka reply karo do then I promise k ap mujy kabi es site par GM kay khilaf baat kartay nahe payn gay, aur agar na dysakay tou GM ko khair abad kardyna. agar manzoor ha then reply karna new post open karlyn gay. Salar jo mainy post ki ha kay ghair muslim say chanda lynay main koe harj nahe hawla fatwa rizwiya ka musti sab nay pesh kiya ha. KIA GHALAT HA

Shahid sab wais yap bohat 2number insane hain. Jab ap deoband ki site par thy tab ap barelvion k haq main boltay thy. Ab ap yahan ha aur beoband kay khalif boltay ho. Mujy achi tara yad a k ap nay aik masla main Rizwan Attar Qadri ko winner karar diya aur jab msrana77 nay ap ko challenge kiya k tum es masla ko Ahledess ki kitaboon say sabat kardain tab ap bhag gay (Masla Ahmed Raza ka Hazrat Ali Ki Shakal main Zahar hona tha). Aur ap ko esliya doeband site par ban kiya gia tha, k ap nay ghalat faisla kiya tha aur Rizwan Attari ko winer karardiya tha Barlvi deoband always aik dosary k khilaf hain ap ki tarah nahe kartay kay jis ki site uski favor

Telenor, sunny aur shahid nazir pls esfatwa par b kuch kaho, ye mat soochu kon kiya ha,

Saeedi Sab, I do not know how to operate Inpage accurately otherwise i use to reply on that but sorry for this. 1)- LUZOOM and ILTEZAM : i do not know about this, pls explain this in Urdu i will be thankful to you. 2)- (A)I also request you pls give me any reference where Ahmed RAza Sab said that due to roumer of Tooba of Shah Ismail, i did not call him kafiri, (B..))))- Ahmed Raza Sab write in his book tamheedul iman that Touba of Gustakhay Rasool SA can not accepted (Gustakhay Rasool SA ki touba Kabul Nahe) then why accept his toube just on roumer. Saeedi sab it is very importent for me some one asked me about this. i have to reply 3) I do not have such knowledge about sentence that what divorse meaning is using Suni Tahreek and what take by beobandi it is beter for me to make a id there and put your post there for reply but if you will allow me. Saeedi Sab I want to ask some question that is not related to this topic can i send you private message for this. pls reply me all my points one by one. thanks

Anwar200 Sab, Bohat acha hota agar ap koe aisa article yan interview post kartay jo Taliban Doeband nay diya hota jaisay ki Doeband site par aik movie upload ha jis main Pak army ka wahshiana dashadud dikaya gia ha PAHTOONO PAR. Anwar Sab ap pls us ko must watch karna. shayad kuch ap ko samaj ajay. main taliban Leader Qari Hussain k interview ka link post karaha hoon jis main Taliban nay kaha ha kay ham Baygharat nahe jo masoon loogon ko katal karain aur Hindia kay pithu nahe jo unsay Asla lain. pls esko read karain. aur eskay baad b agar ap Taliban par ilzam lagana chain tou Buhtan ki saza ap kay zimay. recently b Taliban k biyan aya tha k jo bomb dhamaka mina bazar main ho ha ham nay nahe kia ye BLACK WATER nay kia ha. Baki ap sab baheon say (Barelvi, Deoband and Wahabi) request ha kay apas main mat jagrain pls es waqat Kufar hamray ghar (Black Water) pohanch chuka ha, pls muthad hokar en ka mukabala karin. BAKI ANWAR200 SAB HOSAKTA HA MAIRI BAAT AP KO BURI LAGAY I AM SORRY FOR THAT BUT THINK OVER PLS http://www.bbc.co.uk/urdu/pakistan/2009/10/091020_qari_interview_zee.shtml

Dear Saeedi, I am not agree with your reply, and not satisfied due to some reason and you are also forget that this post was published by Sunni Tahreek and posted by Qadri bahe it mean Qadri bahe think Sunni Tahree is good but you are not, A)_____Tallak ki Shart Sunni Tahreek waloon nay lagi it mean sunni tahrik walay Ulma Ahdees say bilkil bay khabar hain, k unko bilkul pata nahe what Ahadess say. Saeedi bahe jab baat iman ki ati ha tou Duniyan ka sab say dangerous zaihar b piliya jata ha Kuffar kay khany par (According to Ahmed Raza doeband duniyan k badtareen kafir ha)magar ap Tallak ka alfaz istamal karny say dar rahay ho agar ap jothay nahe then why not you are saying this. SAEEDI BAHE ap nay hawala jat ghalat karny ki baat ki wo tou pahly he deoband ghalat sabat kar chukain hain lehaza ap ye baat na karain. MUJY SHORT C AIK BAAT KA JAWAB DAIN, FAWAD-Y-FARIDIYA ULMA BARELVI KI BOOK HA,? aik post main aik Islamimehfil kay mutabar sahti nay kaha ha ky Fawady faridiya hamir kitab nahe tou kiya wo Paleed Yazeed ki manad hoga Doeband: Alama Sab nay kaha tha ki ikhtalaf sir ibarat main ha mager app kuch aur kahrahe so tell me main kiss ki baat mano ap ki yan alama sab ki. App nay kaha agar kufriya ibarat par matla hony par ghair islami nahe kahta tou khud kafir hojata ha, Ismail Dahlvi ki ibarat kufriya hain Ahmed Raza Sab nay kaha aur ye b kaha k jo es ko kafir na kahay khud kafir magar phir khud kaha k dahvli ko kafir na kahan (kuch loog kahtain ha k dahlvi na touba kar li thi es liya Raza sab nay kafir nahe ka magar many bohat c book studi ki magar kissi jaga Ahmed Raza Sab nay ye nahe kaha k main esliya kafir nahe kahta k ismail nay toub kar li) tou mairy bahe agar main app ki ye baat maan loon then Ahmad Raza Sab par fatawa lag jay ga. Saeed bahe app pls Qardi bahe ko reply karnay dain jis nay post ki ha app ka reply tou mujy uljan main dal raha ha Main Qadri bahe say request karoon ga k please app es post ka jawab dain. Aur Talak waly elfaz must post karain taky doeband ki zuban band hoon

Saeedi sab, Ap nay jawab diya Magar es main aik baat majood nahe jis tarah doeobandion (admin forum waloon) nay lekha k agar ham joth bolain then hamari wife ko Divorse (talak---- ye bat puray forum kay member jo admin main hain ki taraf say thi) pls app b kuch aisa lekh dyain k agar Saeedi nay koe baat ghalat lekh yan tarjama ghalat ki, aur agar Asharat faridiya barelion ki kitab ho tou Saeedi samyt tumam Islamimehfil admin ki bivion ko talak. Agar ap ye post nahe karain gay then doebandi kahain gay k agar sachy hain thn barelvion nay ye baat kun na kahe pls ye alfaz add kar dain. Takay main Dosary baat: Alama sab nay Al haq al mubeen main lekha ha k doebandion say ham ko masail main ikhtalaf nahe ha, ikhtalaf sirf ibarat main ha. So it mean doeband maslak bikul darust ha agar ibarat choor di jayan ( if we ignore ibarat) pls es baat par b kuch explain kardain. 3sari baat: Alama sab nay kaha ha kay sirf wo doeband kafir hain jinhoon nay ibarat lekh wo jo en ko acha jantay hain. Baki deoband ko ham kafir nahe kahtay so Saeedi sab kiya baki deoband Ahlesunnat wal Jamat hain. 4thi baat jin person nay either barelvi, ahle hadees yan doeband hoon en ebarat ko par kar be kufar ka fatwa nahe diya tou kiya ye loog be kafir hoon gay, pls jawab muhtasar magar jamiya ho

Chisti Qadri Bahe, Ye baat itni aham nahe ha jitin ham wo post ha jis ka jawab abi b pending ha. Sunni Tahreek kay istihar ka jawab Doeband nay diya ha, pls es ka jawab dain, i will be happy.

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Sir, mainy post pari tou yahan post kardi, agar deoband nay jawab diya ha jitna app b unki tarah jawab dey2 takay unkay moun band hojain. many thanks islamimahfil walaoon ka hoga. maira aik dost ye post mujko bar bar sunata ha

Asif Sab, eska kia matlab ha, post kun dalete kardi.