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  1. . kuch jaga. py Nazbubillah lekhna tha wohan missing hy. AP Saw ko masoom nahe samajty nazubillah
  2. Saeedi Sahab Allah tala ap ko lambi aur hadayat wali zindagi ata kar, agar ap es forum ko chor k chaly gy tu ye forum tu band hojay ga. Baki sab brothers ko b Allah sochny samaj ny ki toufiq ata farmay, itni andi taqleed kci aik bandy k pass b aisa koe proof nahe nahe jis main tariq jamil, junaid jamshaid aur ashraf ali thanvi ka hawala ho jis main Nazubillah wo aqrar kar rahay hoon k Ham Ap SAW ko gunahon sy pak nahe samjty (nazubillah) (tasfiya book enmain sy kcy ki nahe) hazaroon member jis main kam ka sirf aik banda,
  3. Any one, alot member, any one reply please. warna mujy lagta hy. jo saeedi ny jawab deya hy, wo bongi mari hy. Tarjma Dono fariqain ka sahe hy. baat aqeeda py ati hy
  4. Khalil Rana and Saeedi Sb mainy koe etni mushkal baat nahe pochi js ka jawab koe nhe de raha
  5. Qadri Sultan Sb. main Ap k ilam main azafa kar doon. Shayad ap k elam main ye baat nahe. Gumrah wala tarjma Ashraf Ali thanvi ny keya. Espy Ulma barelvion ny ghustakhi ka fatwa deya. magar phir yehe tarjma barelvi ulma ki book sy nikal aya. Ab saeedi sb ny taveel ki k Ashraf Ali Thanvi (ulma deoband) Ap Saw ko masoom nahe manty, esleye tarjma ghalat hy. Jab barlvi aur deoband ka tarjma aik jaisa hy tu tarjma ghalat tu nahe huwa, Ghala tu aqeeda huwa, ab jis ka tarma hy, agar uska aqeeda pahly biyan karyn, agar ab b baat samaj nahe i tu matlab ap ny jawab nahe dyna. Ashraf Ali Thaniv, ka fatwa post karyn jis main usnay kaha ho k wo Ap Saw ko masoon nahe manta. jis kitab ka hawala Saeed ny deya wo Ashraf Ali thanvi ki nahe hy. Tariq jamil aur junaid jamshad tu naqal hyn, alam nahe aur na he tarjma unka hy.. aur moulna tariq jamil ka koe vedio clip paish kardyn jis main unhoon ny kaha ho k main AP saw ko masoom nahe manta. agar tariq jamil masoom manty hyn ty unka biyan ghalat kaisy huwa kunk phir unka aqeeda wohe hy jo saeedi sb sahe kahty hyn. Bahe baat sedi hy jawab b sida dyn. es sy ye sabit hota hy wala jawab na dyn
  6. Need reply of few question: Tarjama Ashraf Ali Thanvi ka hy. keya ashraf ali thanvi ny kahen lekha hy k wo Ap SAW ko masoom nahe manty? nazubillah Jo kitab ka hawala dya hy wo ashraf ali thanvi ki nahe. lehaza pahly jis ka tarjama hy usko aqeeda batao
  7. Tohedi sab, Ap ka bohat thanks kay ap nay sabit kardia kay ghataul mamool Ulma Arab nay likhi warna SAG sab tou es book ok doeband ki book kahrahy thay. SAG SAB pata chalay kay ye kis ki book ha. Tohedi sab. kiya he acha hota kay ap ko page b scan kardatay jis main ahmed raza ko gumraha aur mana mano, ahmed raza ki tafseer ko mardoor etc lekha gia tha any how once again thanks for you. Sag sab mairy pass books nahe hain main net say books parta hoon aur hawala dyta hoon mairay pass Ahmred Raza Ulma Hajaz ki nazar main book nahee thi esliya try karaha tha k miljay but nahe mili but tohedi sab nay maira kam kardiya. baki pages main scan karday post kardoon ga kay kitini izata ahmed raza ko mili thi SAG SAB AUR SAEEDI sab ap ka jo haal Sajjad khan karaha ha main janta hoon. main tumam dotoon ko dawat dyta hoon kay pls haq waloon kay form par ja kar mala noor bashar par sag aur saeedi ki patai muhaz famayeen. SAG SAB jo post sajjad khan nay ki ha agar hamat ha to es form par be copy post kardain apnay lekha tou post kiya magar sajjad khan ka reply be post kardain
  8. Seg, AUR ASAL MOZO SAY MAT HAT, GHATAL MAMOOL KAY JAWAB KO TUM PHER GOOOL KARGAY. BOOK PROFESSOR MASOUD NAME AHMED RAZA ULMA HAJAZ KI NAZAR MAIN. HERE BARELVI ACCEPT THIS BOOK WRITTEN BY ULMA HARAMAN
  9. Seg, Agar main tum ko jahloon ka sardar kahoon then it will be worng because this credit goes to Ahmed Raza. 1) tum nay ghalat jaga ghalat baat start kardi, so listen. Rashid ahmed Gangohe nay jo nakal kiya wo Abdul Haq Muhadas dahlvi ki book say kiya hawala kay liya BARELVI maktaby ki publish book ka hawala post karaha hoo. book Abdul Haq Muhadas dahlvi ki ha aur mutrajam Barelvi. AB KUCH SHARAM HOGI NA TUM MAIN TO DOOB MARNA 2) agar main lekh doon kay barelvion ka andazay biyan darust nahe tou kiya tum maan loo gay, Jahloo ye ahmed raza ki sooch ha kay andazay biyan darust ha ya nahe. JO MASLA HA US PAR BAAT KAR KIYA AHMED RAZA NAY ACCEPT KIYA YA NAEH.
  10. OH Sag tou b Ahmed Raza ki tara jahal ha aur es main kuch shak b nahe. many jo page upload karnay k liya kaha tha, ab es ko ghor say par. akhairi pahra main.( AB WAHABION KA YE KAHNA KAY HAZRAT MOHAMMAD SAW MAHAZ ITNA HE JANTAY THY JITNA WAHI KAY ZARIYA BATAYA GIYA YE BAAT DARUST HA) ghur say para tara bara b manta ha kay wahabi doeband ka aqeeda darust ha. TUM NAY DARUST KAHA THA KAY DOLAT MAKIYA KI JAHALOON KO SAMAJ NAHE ATI AGAR ATI TOU TUM DOEBAND KAY ILME GHIAB KAY AQEEDA KO DARUST MANTAY. Baki GHATUMAMUL ki baat tum gool kargay. tum nay kaha kay ye Ulma Haraman nay nahe lekh JA PAHLY PROFESSOR Masoud ki book Ahmed Raza Ulma Hajaz ki nazar main study kar jis main SAF SAF LEKHA HA kay this book written by Ulma Madina aur aprox 12 ulma main es par tafreez bi ki. ja ab apna moon kala karlayna. ab main tumhari kisi fazool baat ka jawab nahe doon ga. yan professor ko apna akabar na mann yan book man kay ulma haraman ny likhi ha.
  11. Fact about Ghayat-ul-Mamool jahal insanoo Proferssor Masoud ki book ko rafar karta hoon Ahmed Raza Ulma Hajaz ki nazar main. jis main usnay es book ki taed ki ha. that it is written by Ulma Haraman. jis main Sayyid Ahmad Barzunji Rahmatulaah Aley nay ahmed raza ki tafser ko mardood aur gumrah kun lekha. kaho tou kuch page scan kardoon. i do not know how to upload pls some one uplaod this page refere below link http://www.razanw.org/modules/alahazratbooks/item.php?itemid=241&page=66
  12. Sag, thanks kay ap nay Dolat makiya ka hawala diya, once again thanks. es kitab main lekha ha kay Ulma Doeband aur Ahlehadess ka ageeda ilm Ghaib bilkul darust ha. scan page attach karaha hoo. tum nay sahe kaha tha kay jahloon ko eskitab ki samah nahe, agar hoti tou jan lety kay ahmed raza nay deoband kay aqeeda ko darast lekh aur khud apna aqeeda darust karlyta, magar jahal tou jahal hota ha. 2sari baat, tum nay ghalat lekha kay Ulma haraman ka aqeed ilm ghaib ahmed raza wala ha. GHATUL MAMOOL book kabi tumnay pari ha, yakeenan nahe tumhary bap dada nay bi nahe pari hogi. kuch taruf main karwa dyta hoon Jab ahmed raza nay apna aqeed ilm ghaib ka Ulma Haraman kay samnay pesh kiya tou unhoon nay es kay rad main GHATUL MAMOOL lekhi, jis main ahmed raza ki Quran ki tafseer aur ilm ghaib kay aqeeda ko Mardood kaha. KIAY TUM ES BOOK KAY INKARI HOO HO GHATUL MAMOOL ULMA HARAMAN NAY NAHE LEKHI. AGAR NAHE TO ACCEPT KARO KAY AHMAD RAZA KA AQEED DARUST NAHE THA. mujy dolat makiya par bahas nahe karni, JUST TELL ME DO YOU ACCEPT GHATUL MAMOOL OR NOT JAHAL KOON FAISLA KHUD PARNY WALAY KARLAY GAY
  13. Sag, Agar lekhay Musa Paray Khuda to phir ap ki baat darust ha, marbani kar kay book writter ka name aur kin loogoon nay es par sign aur tafreez ki ye b bata dain, TAKAY MILAK AUR WATER MAIN FARAK KARSKAIN.
  14. Bahas bahas bas bahas, ye kabi khatam nahe hoge, mujy sab dost aik baat batain, Ulma haraman jo 1324H walay hain, jin ko Ahmed Raza and doeband b mantain hain, jin ki tasdikat Hasmulharaman main Ahmed Raza nay li. unka aqeeda ilm ghaib kay baray main kiya ha, Milak ka milak aur water ka water hojay ga.
  15. Alteejani, Mainy sag kay liya zaleel lekh tou ye gustakhi hoge, ho badbakhto jaloo jab ahmed raza sari makhloog jo Allah nay banaya ha (jis main main aur ap wali sab shamal hain) aur jis kay saye sajda kartain hain unko ko zaleel kahy tou gustakhi nahe aur jin kay saye sajda nahe kartay unko zaleel nahe lekha, aik bandat ko waqat ka abdal kahnay wala kaisy lekhta. aur jab shah ismail nay zaleel ka lafaz use karay tou gustakhi banjata ha. ho sharam karo magar kaisay wo tou shayad ap logon main ha he nahe. Zaleel ka aik meaning azaj be ha Pir Mahe ali shah Sab nay shah ismail ki tareef ki apny fatawa main. bool gay kiya tum
  16. Sag sab, Akal na hoo tou mujain he mujain, tarjama again read karain======== jo chez Allah nay banae, ham sab ko Allah nay paida kiya ha. sar makhlook ko Allah nay banaya ha. esitarah say shah ismail nay kaha sari makhlook, zalaal zaleel hota ha chay wo kam ho yan zaida. jisay ghair muslim jannat main nahe jay ga chahy bara kafir ho yan chota. agar shah ismail ki ibarat ka mutlab ghalat ha tou ahmad raza ka b, agar aik nay chamar say tashbi di ha tou dosary nay waisy he zaleel lekha ha. sag Allah ka khoof khao agar ghustakh kahna ha tou dono ko kaho warna dono ka matlab ajaz loo. Ab main tum ko kahaoon kay tum sag bohat zaleel ho tou yakenan tum ko bura nahe lagay ga kun k mainy tum ko chamar say ziada zaleel tou nahe kaha. SAG BOHAT ZALEEL HA. SAG BOHAT ZALEEL HA. SAG BOHAT ZALEEL HA. SAG BOHAT ZALEEL HA. SAG BOHAT ZALEEL HA. I THINK YOU WILL NOT MIND HANA
  17. Sag sab, Ap ki akal ko daad dyni chahe ha. parachaon ko zalil kahrahay ho. it mean main baki ki baat nahe karta, tum Allah ko sajda kartay ho tumahri parche Zaleel ha aur jo Allah ko sajda nahe karta uski nahe wakiya baat ha ap ki, AKAL NA HO TOU mujan he mujan
  18. Nifaq sab, ap kiya ye accpt kar ahay ho kay jis taraha ap ki nazar main Shah Ismail ki ibrate ghustakhana ha esitarah ahmed raza nay bi ghustakhi ki ha, bcoz dono main lafaz Zalil use howa ha. Shah Ismail nay Choti bari Makhlook lekha jis ko jahloon nay Inbiya to Auliya banadiya jab kay ahmed rana sajda kanay waloon kop Zalil kahraha ha. kiya farak ha dono main nothing, agar shah ismail ghalat ha tou ahmed raza ausay b bara ghalat ha
  19. Talinoor Sab, Ap bohat achi post kartay ho, Saeedi apni he kahe baat par phas jata ha. Talab ur raham ki jaga ap munazar ban jain tou shayad wahabi acha defa karsakain. Shah Islamiel ka ap nay bohat acha defa kiya ha yakeen jano tabiyat kush hogae ha. Ahmed Raza jis alfaz par fatwa lagata tha khud wohe kahta raha
  20. Mari ap sab baheon say request ha kay ilzam tarashi ki bajay jawab diya jay. Saadi sab jo Tavel ap Zaleel Lafaz ki Ahmed Raza ki karain tou kiya wo Shah Ismail kay liya b hogi. agar shah ismail kay alfaz ki tavil nahe to Ahmed Raza kay alfaz ki b tavil nahe mani jay gi. Umeed ha ap insaf say kam lo gay.
  21. talinoor sab , bohat khoob, saeedi ki bolti band, pls ap ki post complete pari nahe jarahe again post kardain, aur hanfi quareeshi nay talib ur rahman kay sath munazara main almakabal almajalas ka diffa kiya ha. so hanfi sab kay baray main kiya ray ha