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Firqa bandi ko aap choren ... ham toh Alhamdulillah Sunni hen, aur hamaray aqahid, hamaray ham maslak toh Sahabah say leh ker aaj taq thay aur ta qayamat taq rahen gay. Firqa aap ka heh, Wahabi hazrat Ahle Sunnat say kharij huway, 17th century me Jammat ko chor ker FIRQA banaya, Ibnul Wahab Najdi say pehlay Ibn Taymiyah, aur us say pehlay Khariji aap kay ham maslak hen. Wahabiat kee bunyaad Ibn Taymiyah nay rakhi, pehli aur khatam ho gaee, aur phir Abdul Wahab Najdi Tamimi nay us meh nahi rooh phonki aur 17th century say mutawatir chali aa rahi heh. Aur RasoolAllah ka farmaan heh kay ek jammat har dor meh haq kay leyeh larti rahay gee, agir Wahabiat sahih deen hota toh 15th century meh be hota aur generation after generation us kay fallowers hotay. Yeh zahir hona phir mit jana Kharijiat kee sift heh keyun kay RasoolAllah nay farmaya thah kay Ahle Najdia Qayamat taq nikaltay rahen gay, yehni khatam hoon gay phir ubar ahaen gay phir maray jahen gay phir ubar ahen gay aur aakhiri goro dajjal say millay ga. Aur Ahle Sunnat kay aqahid har dor meh, aur hamaray Ulamah kay us'satza kee chain wapis RasoolAllah taq jaati heh, Imam Ahmad Raza Khan kay us'satza Murshid, un kay murshid, un kay murshid, un kay murshid, un kay murshid, un kay murshid, yehni mutawatir chain begher munqata honay kay, ek generation say pichli taq aur us say pichli taq ... Sahabah say hoti huwi RasoolAllah taq jaati heh. Aur RasoolAllah ka farmaan thah kay har dor meh haq aqeedah e haq kay larnay walay mojood hoon gay, hamari tawatur sabit hoti heh. Wahabiat ke 17th century taq jaati heh aur phir 700 saal ka waqfa ata heh aur phir Ibn Taymiyah say milti heh, aur phir Ibn Taymiyah taq hee khatam ho jaati heh. Joh thori soch rakhta heh aur ghor o fikr wala heh joh uper likha heh ussay perh ker kee Sunniat ka haq hona samaj leh ga, keyuun kay RasoolAllah ka farmaan kay HAR DOR MEH EK JAMMAT HOGI JOH HAQ KAY LEYEH LARAY GEE Sunniat kee daleel heh, hamaray aqahid toh Ibn Abbas radiallah tallah taq jatay hen, Tabi'tabiun taq jatay hen ... AUR wAHABIA ka 17th century kay baad shoron hona batal honay kee daleel heh keyun kay agir sach hoti toh har dor meh hoti, aur agir tumara dawah kay wahabiat har dor meh thee toh Ibnul Wahab Najdi kay us'satza aur un kay us'satza jis say is nay Wahabiat kee taleem hasil kee un kay naam pesh kero nahin ker sako gay aur agir ker bee deeya toh sab KHARIJI hoon gay. Is leyeh aap Firqabandi ko choren aur Jammat meh dakhal hoon, ham Firqabandi ko tab choren jab ham ek Firqa hoon, ham Jammat hen jis saay aap kay Ibnul Wahab Najdi nay baghawat kee aur Sunniyoon ko qatal keeya, Mushrik tehra ker auratoon ko, bachoon ko, aur Ulamah o Mushaikh ko zabiyah keeya. Jammat say kharij aap huway aur jammat meh wapis anay ka tareeqa sirf ek hee heh kay aqahid e Shirkia o Biddatia say toba keren. Dosra ikhtilaaf kee bunyaad ham nay nahin qanay Najdi Wahabiat nay rakhi, tooh pehlay apnay WAHABIYOON ko manwa kay BARELWIYOON say ittehad kerna chahyeh, jab teri Najdiat tiyaar ho jahay phir ana ITTEHAD KA AHLE SUNNAT KO KEHNA. Aur RasoolAllah nay Najdiat say ittehaad ka nahin BALKAY QATAL KA HOKAM DEEYA HEH YEHNI NAJDIA WAHABIA KO ESAY QATAL kero kay jesay qom e aad alayhis salam kee tera mitahi gaee, yehni in ka naam o nishaan eent pathar taq nah choro. Allah tallah ka karam heh kay Pakistani fojh nay Wahabiyoon ko qatal krna shoroon keeya heh, Allah tallah Talibaan ko gharq keray aur Sunniyoon ko Wahabiyoon Deobandiyoon Shiyoon Qadiyaniyoon ko qatal kernay kee tofeeq deh. Raha Hazrat Hassan radiallah tallah kee Sunnat ka mamla toh aap kay leyeh SAHABAH ka amal KAB SAY HUJJAT HO GAYA, ek Wahabi ata heh aur kehta heh Sahabah ka amal HUJJAT nahin sirf RasoolAllah ka amal hujjat heh, dosra ata heh Sahabah kay amal ko hujjat batata heh. Wesay Hazrat Hassan radiallah tallah anh ka ikhtilaaf Hazrat Muawiyah radiallah tallah anh say aqahid pr nahin thah, aap toh MUSHRIK, SHIRK, GRAVE WORSHIPPER, MUSHRIK KAFFIR, BIDDATI, IDOL WORSHIPPER, ka label deh ker ITTEHAAD kernay ahay hen. Joh Ikhtilaaf donoon Sahabah meh thah woh bunyaadi aqahid per nahin nazriyati ikhtilaaf thah Ijtihadi ikhtilaaf thah aur us per ITTEHAD huwa, agir hota ikhtilaaf aqahid per, Hazrat Hassan radiallah tallah anh Hazrat Ameer Muawiyah radiallah tallah anh ko Mushrik, Kaffir, Biddati, Shirk, Idol Worshipper tehra ker phir be Ittehad kertay toh socha ja sakta thah kay itnay fatway denay kay baad ittehad ker leeya toh ham be ker saktay hen, jab aap kee wahabiat ham ko shoroon say hee, siray hee say, MUSALMAN NAHIN MANTI MUSHRIK YEHNI KAFFIR likhti, kehti, pukarti, heh toh ittehad kis baat per keren gay? Aur aap kay HAQEEQAT nay toh aah ker aap ko kaha thah kay ABDULSALAM nay ghalti kee MUSHRIK say ittehad nahin hota ... ya aap WahaBIAT kay asooloon ko ghalat samjtay hen aur mantay nahin ya phir AAP HAM KO PAGAL BANA RAHAY. Wahabi, Deobandi, Shia, Qadiyani, Munkireen e Hadith, kissi say be ITTEHAD nahin keeya ja sakta, ittifaq keeya ja sakta heh magir ittehad nahin, Ittifaaq yehni kissi maslay per sab ka fesla ek hona, aur ittehad kay sab ka ek hona. Tawheed per hamara ittifaq heh magir Wahabiat say ITTEHAD nahin, ITTEFAQ AUR ITTIHAD MEH FARQ maloom keren. Sula Hudaibiyah, Musalmanoon aur Kaffiroon kay darmiyaan huwi thee, ham toh alhamdulillah Ahle Sunnat, yehni Ahle Hadith, Wal Jammat e Sahabah hen, aap likh denh kay aap KAFFIR MUSHRIK HEN, is kaay baad Sula Hudaibiyah asoloon kay mutabiq chand sharahit rakhen gay agir aap ko qabool huween toh ITTEHAD HEE ITTIHAD HEH AUR AGIR NAHIN TOH kam say kam aap ka KAFFIR HONAY apnay ilfaaz say hee sabit ho jahay ga. Shahid tum ko dushman e deen pakistan kee fojh lag rahi heh, abh keyun kay Wahabiat ko mitaya ja raha heh Swaat weghera say toh tum ko ittehad kee soji, jahan taq mera experience heh, jidhar be Wahabiat ka control huwa Sunni Ulamah o awaam qatal huway, Awliyah Allah kee toheen kee gaee, aur biddat ko pehlaya gaya, yehni chori kee sazza maut, halan kay shariat meh haath qatnay kee sazza heh, magir swaat meh Ahle Wahabia kay mutabiq maut heh. Zina kay sabit honay kay leyeh chaar gawahoon kee nahin balkay muhallay kee gossip kafi heh aap ko sangsar kerwanay kay leyeh ... wegheera weghera ... Wahabiat sirf usee waqt taq acahay piyaar say rehti heh jab taq Wahabi power meh nah hoon aur minority hoon jahan per majority ho aur power meh hoon, baqi sab kee sakhti aa gaee. Sunniyoon kee bad baskhti kay Wahabiyoon ko qatal nahin kertay, halanh kay jab bee Wahabi ko moqa mila power milli Sunni ko pehlay qatal hamari Masjidoon, Madrassoon, Kitabooh, aur mazaraat e Awliyah ko tora mora gaya ... magir Sunni nay sufiat ko nahin chorna ... dil kissi ka nahin dukhana ... Wahabi ahay puray muhallay kay mardoon ko qatalkeren aur auratoon ko be abrooh ker jahen magir Sufi nay apni I LOVER EVERYONE, I LOVE PEACE, I LOVE YOU WAHABIS EVEN IF U WANA KILL MEH I STILL WILL NOT RETALIATE, PEACE! PEACE! PEACE! ko nahin chorna, agir sufiat meh kuch bura heh toh yeh un kee PIYAAR, MUHABBAT, WAHABI KO MAT KUCH KAHO, MARNA NAHIN IN BICHARAOON KO, ALLAH JEE KEE MAKHLOOQ HEN, IS WAHABI KO MAAR KO TUM IS KEE MAAN KA KITNA DUKH DUKHAHO GAY, PEACE! Yeh piyaar muhabbat Wahabiat kay leyeh nahin Sunniyoon kay leyeh heh, Wahabiyoon kay leyeh Jihadal kufara wal munafiqeena, joh RasoolAllah kay saath hen woh kaffiroon say sakhti kertay hen ... in kaffiroon say muhabat nahin jang, qatal, in kee auratoon bachoon ko ghulaam bana'na jahiz aur ba'hay say sawab heh, aur Allah nay esa kernay walay kay leyeh jannat meh reward rakha heh. Allah tallah Sunniyoon ko, Wahabiat, Deobandiyoon, Shiyoon, Qadiyaniyoon ko qatal kernay kee tofeeq deh, aur har Sunni ko is pakeeza, aur nek khawahish ka talib banahay, ameen. Keroon kia Wahabiya aqal pay matan teri, Quran nah samaj sakka bewaqufi asliyat teri, Tera qatal qom e Aad sa keroon, heh yeh pakeeza khawahish meri, Muhammed Ali Razavi
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Bas laga reh ...tooh heh ek aam admi tis say mis nahin hota ... laga reh, laga reh, Jee baqaul Wahabiyat kay aap Mushrik hen is leyeh jab taq aap Muwahideen kee jammat say nah hoon aap say baat kerna jahiz nahin, pehlay muwahid baneh aur Shirk choren. Joh meh kehta hoon ussay ghalat sabit ker denh, baat khatam. Aap ko ho kia gaya heh meri batoon ka jawab keyun nahin detay ... meh nay ihtirazat jawabaat, wazahat, sab keeyeh magir aap nay choon charan bee nahin kee meray daway per kia aap Barelwi Mushrikoon kay asool say mutafiq hen, ya ahle Tawheed Wahabiyah kay asool say. Soch ker jawab denh agir Wahabiat ko choose keren gay toh Shirk kay fatway meh doob maren gay, aur Barelwiat ko toh phir Wahabiat kay bet'h meh laat maren gay, yeh huwa Head's Muhammed Ali Razavi Win's, Tails Wahabi AbdulSalam Loose's, ... deen kee baat keren, meh tumari baqwas pernay kay leyeh yahan per nahin bulaya gaya thah ... agir kuch ata heh, kohi deen kee sudh budh heh Tawheed aur Shirk, ka pata heh toh jawab doh, warna ... bas laga reh ...
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Abh Ibn Taymiyah mar gaya ... nahin choren gay Wahabi is ko ... Biddati, Shirk, Mushrik, Aap nay hamaray dalahil bee dekhay magir nahin manay, abh Ibn Taymiyah ka sar pansa heh Mathahi meh jaa ker toh dekhna MATHAHI, HOLI KEE HO, RAWAN KEE HO, SEETA KEE HO, GEETA KEE HO, ES'SEE PAAK MANEH GAY KAY ALLAH KAY PAAK KEEYEH HUWON SAY BE ZIYADA PAAK HALAL MANEH GAY. Is leyeh nahin kay Quran kay dalahil say sabit thah, is leyeh nahin kay HADITH say sabit ho gaya, BALKAY sirf is leyeh kay IBN TAYMIYAH LANTI MUJASSAMI KAFFIR nay likha heh. Abh yeh agir maan lenh toh kia sabit hoga, ek in logoon nay HALAL ko HARAM, likha thah aur joh HALAL ko HARAM kerta heh woh KHUDAI KA DAWA KERTA HEH WOH KHUD KO KHUDA KA DARJA DETA HEH, ESA SAKHS KAFFIR, MUSHRIK, MULHID, WAJIB UL QATAL hota heh. Sabit huwa kay HALAL ko HARAM sabit kernay kee bunyaad per yeh KAFFIR ho chukay, aur Hadith kee daleel kay munkir honay kee waja say BIDDATI be sabit huway. Yehni yeh joh hazraat HALAL ko haram sabit ker rahay thay AWAL, Mushrik kaffir ho gahay thay esay kernay kee bunyaad per, dohim hadith kay munkir thay aur Biddati sabit huway. Abh zera daleel pesh e khidmat heh: Surah {9} Verse 31: "They take their priests and their anchorites to be their LORDS in derogation of Allah, and (they take as their Lord) Christ the son of Mary; yet they were commanded to worship but One Allah. there is no god but He. Praise and glory to Him: (Far is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)." Tafsir e Jalalayn: They have taken their rabbis, the scholars among the Jews, and their monks, the devout among the Christians, as lords beside God — following them in making lawful what God has made unlawful and making unlawful what He has made lawful — and the Messiah, son of Mary, when they were not commanded, in the Torah and the Gospel, except to worship One God: there is no god except Him; glory be to Him, as an affirmation of His transcendence [high], above what they associate [with Him]. Tafsir Ibn Abbas: (They have taken as lords beside Allah) i.e. they obeyed them in acts of disobedience (their rabbis) the men of knowledge among the Jews (and their monks) who reside in monasteries (and the Messiah son of Mary) and they have taken the Messiah son of Mary as lord, (when they were bidden) in all Scriptures (to worship) to confess the divine Oneness of (only One God. There is no god save Him. Be He glorified from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him)!) Allah exalts Himself above all that which they ascribe to Him Aur meh nay ikhtisaar kee waja say Tafsir Ibn Kathir pesh nahin kee, alhasil, jis nay HALAL ko HARAM keeya aur HARAM ko HALAL keeya, aur un kee atahat meh HALAL KO HARAM maan lena aur HARAM KO HALAL maan lena esa heh jesay un ko KHUDA MAAN LENA, Rab maan lena, aaur agir kohi khud HARAM ko HALAL ko HARAM kerta heh toh phir us nay HAQ E BARI TALLAH apnay leyeh sabit keeya, aur yeh esa heh jesay us nay khudai ka dawah keeya. Donoon sooratoon meh Shirk e Akhbar lazam ata heh aur is ka murtaqib murtid, Mushrik Kaffir, Mulhid, ho jata heh aur shar'an murtid kee sazza qatal heh. Wahabio musalmaan ho jaho abh, aur Shirk say baaz aa jaho, Allah kee Wahdaniyat kee gawahi, aur RasoolAllah kee Risalat kee gawahi doh aur musalmaan ho jaho, warna Mushrik yehni kaffir maro gay. RasoolAllah nay farmaya ek esa group hoga joh musalmanooon ko Mushrik kahay ga, Sahabi nay poocha Ya RAsoolAllah ilzaam laganay walay sachay hoon gay ya jin per Shirk ka ilzaam lagaya jahay ga, RasoolAllah nay farmaya Shirk ka ilzam laganay walay Mushrik hoon gay, alhamdulillah Hadith kee tasdeeq ho gahi aap kay amal say, Imam Ahmad Raza say bugz nafrat adawat aur dahira e islam meh raho Allah esa nahin honay deh ga, keyun kay Allah apnay Waliyoon kay khilaaf zubaan daraazi kernay kay khilaaf JANG kerta heh Allah farmata heh Sahih Bukhari kee Hadith e Qudsi meh kay joh meray Abd, Muqarrib Abd say sakhti kerta heh meh us kay khilaaf jang kerta hoon ... jab Allah jang keray toh IMAAN salamat leh ker WAHABI NAHIN MAR SAKTA. -
Yeh logh shahid samaj rahay hen kay KITAAB ko utha ker perna bot asaaan heh, begher ustaad kay kitaab peri aur samji jaa sakti heh, Kitaabeh perna asaan heh magir samajna mushkil, samaj aqal aur fikr say aati heh aur perna alphabets ko jor ker pernay say. Yeh kuttay kee dumb hen, agir yeh baat samaj lenh kay HAR SHUBAY MEH TECHNICAL LANGUAGE hoti heh jissay samjay beghair us field ko samajna muhaal heh. Jesay Hadith kay field meh lafz Marfooh, woh Hadith heh jis say RasoolAllah ka qaul, felh, amal/qaul ko dekh ker saqoob ikhtiyaar kerna sabit ho, magir Arabi zubaan meh lafz Marfooh ka yeh literally mafoom nahin. Yeh Wahabi Taqleed kay mozooh per dictionary utha ker leh atay hen, Taqleed ka matlab dictionary meh yeh heh, yeh heh, in ko yeh pata nahin kay Taqleed technical term kay tor per istimaal ho toh DICTIONARY ka mafoom NAHIN balkay joh technical mafoom yehni apnay ilfaaz meh: "Kissi Aalim kay qaul ko bila daleel tasleem ker lena jab kay us qaul kee daleel Quran O Hadith meh ho, Taqleed heh, aur mutalbay per pesh kee ja sakkay." Kohi haal nahin heh in logoon ka, kitaab uthahi aur ihtiraazat shoroon yeh haal heh in kay maulviyoon ka bee, ibarat peri bee nahin samji bee nahin ihtiraaz shoroon ker deeyeh, namoonay kay tor per Chan Muhammed Deobandi Kaffir ko lenh. Sahabi ka amal hujjat nahin kia? Agir nahin toh keyun nahin, kia Sahabi gumrah thah, biddati thah, Shirk per thah? Sach kaha thah Sadiq Kohati nay kay Wahabi zahir meh Shia kay mukhalif hen haqiqat meh Shia jesay hee hen, Shia Sahabah ko gumrah Kaffir aur pata nahin kia kia likhtay hen aur yeh TAQIYAH parast Wahabi-Shia, Sahabah ko man'nay walay Sahabah kee peet be chup ker churi marnay walay. Yeh wahid baat thee joh meh nay Wahabiat meh feel nahin keeh abh is baat ka andaaza bee ho raha heh kay Wahabi Ahle Sunnat kee mukhalfat meh is qadr bar chukay hen kay Sahabah kay amal per be ihtiraaz heh, yeh sirf chand step SHIA kay peechay hen, taqriban aur 50 saal guzray toh meh yaqeen say keh sakta hoon kay YEH WAHABI SAHABAH KO MUSHRIK KAFFIR, BIDDATI, LIKHNA SHOROON KER DENH GAY. Muhammed Ali Razavi
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Ghalti ho gaee, meh nay Shiyat say booh ka likha heh, halan kay aap nay MUNAFQAT KEE BOOH likha heh, khata e yadasht, mazrat. Sabak 1: Yeh Ma Fawkal Asbab aur Tahtul Asbab kee takhsees Wahabiat kee gari heh Sunniyoon kee nahin, aur Keyun kay Wahabiat meh ilfaaz kee Taweel nahin kee jaati, is leyeh yeh Sunni ka fatwah nahin, Wahabiat ka fatwah heh aap kee booh per. Sabak 2: Kabi kabi ilfaaz ka mafoom woh nahin hota joh zahir ho, yehni likha toh aap nay booh ka heh kay aap ko muj say MUNAFQAT kee booh aati heh, magir kohi pagal hee computer per beth ker HAQIQI mafoom meh, yeh likhay ga, keyun kay booh toh computer kay zariyeh aati nahin. Toh ham Sunni samajtay hen kay aap nay HAQIQI mafoom meh nahin likha, kash yeh baat aap WAHABI logh be samaj jatay, aap ko ASOOL bata doon: "Musalmaan, Ba'shahoor, Sahib e Ilm o Quran O Hadith, Muttaqi, agir kohi esi baat likhay, ya kahay, joh Haqiqat aur Aqahid, kay khilaaf ho toh us kay ilfaaz ko Haqiqi mafoom meh nahin balkay, taweel kee jahay gee." Aap kay musalmaan, Sahib e Ilm o Quran o Hadith, aur Muttaqi honay per toh ikhtilaaf heh, magir BA'SHAHOOR honay per nahin, is leyeh aap say yeh tawaqoh nahin kee jaa sakti kay aap nay HAQIQI mafoom meh yeh jumla likha heh: "... {Muhammed Ali Razavi} say shiyat kee booh aa'rahi heh." Aur keyun kay ham Sunni Sahib e Ilm o Quran O Hadith, aur Bashahoor, Aqalmand hen, is leyeh TAWEEL keren gay: "Muhammed Ali Razavi kay Munafiq honay per shak ho raha heh." Ya yoon be ho sakti heh: "Muhammed Ali Razavi ka munafiq hona sabit ho raha heh." matlab kay kohi bee es'si TAWEEL jis say aap kee muraad ka kuch andaza ho aur zahiri ilfaaz kee tardeed ho. Abh aap khud andaza keren kay meh kitna acha hoon, kay aap kay difa meh aap ko aap kee ladli, piyaari, dil rooba, Wahabiyat kay fatway say bacha raha hoon. Yaqeen keren aap Wahabiyat kee bunyaad per kabi bee aap apnay aap ko Muwahid sabit nah ker saktay, keyun kay Wahabiat ka har asool man'garat heh. Awal Ma Fawkal Asbab aur Tahtul Asbab kee takhsees mangarrat aur Biddat heh, dohim Wahabiyat ka yeh kehna kay begher aqahid kay badlay huway Shirk e Akhbar lazam aa jata heh baqwas o jahalat o Biddat heh. Haqiqat yeh heh kay agir aap is nazriyeh say kehtay kay mujjay munafqat kee booh bi'iznAllah aahi toh Shirk lazam nahin ata keyun kay Ulluhiyat, Wahdaniyat, Atah e Illahi ka inqaar nahin keeya aur naah apnay aap ko Rab ul Izat ka mukhalif banaya heh. Aur agir app bi'iznillah ka aqeedah rakh ker computer per beth ker HAQIQI mafoom meh be yeh likhtay kay muhammed Ali say Munafqat kee booh aa rahi heh toh tab bee aap per SHIRK ka fatwah nahin thah balkay aap ko meh sirf pagal honay ka tana deta. Aur agir computer per beth ker, door say ya qareeb say, agir is aqeedeh kay saath kehtay kay: beghair ata e illahi llahi mujjay tumari munafqat kee booh aa rahi heh, toh bila shak o shuba Shirk e Akhbar lazam ata. Is leyeh Ma Fawkal Asbab Aur Tahtul Asbab kee bunyaad hee mangarat heh, keyun kay joh kuch be dunya meh hota heh qaynaat meh hota heh ASBAB kay saat hota heh, Asbab kay saath aur Asbab kay beghair kee baat kerna hee baqwas heh ... Jab Allah tallah nay RasoolAllah ko Madinah meh kharay ho ker jannat aur dozikh ka mushayda ker rahay hen toh kehna kay Rasoolallah nay Asbab kay beghair dekha heh shirk heh, keyun kay jis Allah nay un ko mushayda ka sharf deeya toh ASBAB bee peda ker deeyeh, joh amal jab hota heh aur jis ko hona heh, us kay ASBAB Allah tallah peda ker deta heh,, is leyeh Fawkal aur Tahtul Asbab kee kee takhsees jahalat Biddat, aur Tawheed say be khabri heh. Sabak 3: Aur is asool kay mutabiq: "Musalmaan, Ba'shahoor, Sahib e Ilm o Quran O Hadith, Muttaqi, agir kohi esi baat likhay, ya kahay, joh Haqiqat aur Aqahid, kay khilaaf ho toh us kay ilfaaz ko Haqiqi mafoom meh nahin balkay, taweel kee jahay gee." Agir kohi bee esay ilfaaz bolay, cha'hay Nabi ho, Wali ho, Aalim ho, agir us kay aqeedeh kay khilaaf, insaan ba'shahoor, ho toh phir TAWEEL HOGI. Ibrahim alayhis salam nay sooraj, taray, chaand, ko dekha farmaya: "Haza Rabi" {"Mera khuda heh."} Abh Sunni kabi be, musalmaan kabi be IBRAHIM alayhis salam per SHIRK O KUFFR ka fatwah nahin lagahay ga, sirf jahil Wahabi laga sakta heh, jesa kay ek Wahabi Kaffir nay Ibrahim alayhis salam ko Mushrik likh deeya kay Nabuwat say pehlay Mushrik thay, meh nay sabit ker deeya kay Nabi, Rasool, toh pedaish say pehlay be Nabi Rasool hota heh, toh begher tobah keeyeh, begher kalmah peray debate say farar ho gaya. Is'see tera Awliyah Allay kay esay iqwaal o Ashaar hen joh zahiri mafoom meh kuffria o Shirkia hen magir un ibaraat kee taweelaat kee jahen gee, aur keyun kay un kay hosh o hawash darust nahin thay is leyeh un per takfir o fatwah e kuffr o shirk nahin lagaya jahay ga. Agir lagana hee lagana heh toh phir Ibrahim alayhis salam say shoron keren aur chronologically joh joh be ahay sab per fatweh laga denh. Sabak 4: Muhammed Ali ko cheren mat, woh choray ga nahin jab taq, baal kee khaal, aur us baal kee khaal kay baal kee khaal nah utar deh.
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Aur tummeh booh joh aahi thee woh Imam Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi Rahimullah Alayhi Tallah kay naam say aahi thee, joh tumari munafqat kee daleel bee heh, Rizvi Shia likhtay hen. Meh Razavi hoon, aur yeh nisbat Silsilah e Qadriyah kee branch heh joh Imam Ahmad Raza Khan Barelwi Rahimullah Alayhi Tallah say nikli, aur un kay naam Raza kee nisbat say Razavi sath likhta hoon. Tumara baap ko bee meri khasbooh ahay gee jahan per meh aur tooh bethay hen, aur wesay tumara kehna kay Shi'at kee booh aati heh, kia tummeh ILM E GHAYB deeya gaya ya booh tummeh farishtoon nay botol meh daal ker behji ... abh Ma fawkal asbab aur Ma tahtul Asbab kee TAKHSEESAAT E wahabiyah kay mutab aap ko SHI'AT kee booh ana, SHIRK heh. Aap kalmah perh kay pakkay sachay MUWAHID ban'na gawara keren gay, ya chup saad lenh gay. Abhi bee booh aa rahi heh ya band ho gaee heh??
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Woh pata lag raha heh kay Munafiq kon heh. Joh aap ka aqeedah heh us say maloom hota heh, RasoolAllah ko Apnay jesay Bashr liknay walay, RasoolAllah kee masoomiat kay munkir aur RAsoolAllah ko gunagar sabit kernay walay, RasoolAllah kay khiyaal ko Behal gadday say be badtar jannay walay ... RasoolAllah kay leyeh wohi zubaan istimaal kertay hen joh munafiqeen aur kaffiroon nay keeh .... yeh toh aap kay mazhib say pata lag raha heh kay munafiq yehni taqia parast kaffir kon heh. Raha subject kee baat toh Milaad ko celebrate kernay ko aap nay jahiz kerar deeya aur shareek hona ka bee irada keeya ... aap kay baee nay WASEELAh e RasoolAllah ko qabool ker leeya, aap apnay baee ko Milaad samja denh, aur woh aap ko Waseelah samja denh gay, aap unki maan lenh aur woh aap kee maan lenh gay ... nateeja kia hoga do subject aap donoon WAHABI baee sort out ker lenh, aap Milaad ko jahiz samajtay hen, aur woh Waseeleh ko, yeh lenh un kay ilfaaz: Ya Allah Madad, Wrote: Raha Waseeleh per dalahil toh alhamdulillah aap ko chit ker leta deeya heh, meri replies kay jawabaat nahin ahay, agir aap samajtay hen kay Waseeleh kay dalahil kamzor hen toh rad keren un ka. Aap kay har point, jumla ba jumla point ba point jawab miltay hen khadim kee taraf say, aur meri post ka jawab aap nahin deh pa rahay. Batoon say mukhalif kay dalahil ka rad nhin hota dalahil ka tor mukhalif kay dalahil kee wazahat aur apnay mowaqif per dalahil say hota heh. Khadim nay aap kay dalahil kee sahih wazahat kee, jis say aap ka ilzaam be bunyaad sabit huway, aur phir apnay dalahil say mowaqif ko sabit keeya. Abhi aap ko yeh pata nahin kay mukhalif kay rad kistera keeya jata heh, mukhalif kee daleel kay khilaaf apni daleel pesh kertay hen, yoon aap apnay dalahil say mukhalif kay dalahil ko contradcit ker rahay hen. Rad maqool us waqt hota heh jab mukhalif kay dalahil ka sahih mafoom pesh keeya jahay jin kee bunyaad ker us nay ghalat aqahid kee bunyaad rakhi, aur phir apnay dalahil pesh keeyeh jahen, aap ko abhi yeh pata nahin kay rad kistera keeya jata heh. Agir kohi WE, Us, Our, kee bunyaad per Quran say Trinity sabit kerna chahay toh aap pehlay yeh kren kay us ko batahen kay We Us Our jab Allah tallah kee zaat istimaal kerti heh woh Plural of Respect, plural of honour, hen, jistera Queen's English meh We Our, Us ka istimaal hota heh. aur phir apnay dalahil yehni: "Qul, Huwallah Ahad." pesh keren ... yeh maqool tareeka heh, ... aap sirf bateh ker saktay hen ati alif bay pay nahin aap ko ... Shahid aap samaj rahay hen kay Munafiq heh Shiat kee booh aa rahi heh, us kee booh aa rahi heh toh meh marghoob ho jahoon ga ... aap ko shak heh yeh games shahid aap kay leyeh new hen, meh nay bari kheli hen, agir jurrat heh aur tumari wahabiat meh agir dam kham heh toh meray dalahil ka rad kero, balkay jurrat ker kay ek seperate thread meh ONE TO ONE debate kero, WASEELAH ka subject hee sahih, tumeh naaq kay bal gaseeta nahin toh naam Muhammed Ali Razavi nahin.
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Dekhyeh janab yahan per khamosh honay is kia hoga woh aap ko pata nahin mujjay maloom heh ... hoga yeh kay aaj in subject per itni taweel aur taseelan behas huwi aur agir sara mamla jahan taq puncha heh ussay woheen pr chor denh toh maheenay baad haftay baad aap kuttay kee dumb kee tera hen, phir WASEELEH, kay subject per behas shoroon ker denay gay aur apni qaani aqal kay bina per Muwahideen ko MUSHIRK, MUSHRIK, MUSHRIK, likhen gay. Keyun kay Waseelah Sabit ho chuka heh aur aap kay baee nay bee maan hee leeya heh, meh nay Hadith say sabit ker deeya kay UMMAT shirk nahin keray gaee ghairullah kee iabadat nahin keray gee, bas aap mahirbaani ker kay yeh likh denh kay ... Aap gabool kertay hen kay: Waseeleh ka hokam Allah nay Quran meh deeya heh RasoolAllah ko Yahoodi un kee pedaish say pehlay Waseelah banatay thay, Quran say sabit heh, RasoolAllah ko Waseelah bana'nay ka hokam Quran meh heh, Pukarnay say shirk lazam nahin ata, Shirk e Akhbar Aqahid kee bina per lazam ata heh pukarnay say nahin Waseeleh say Dua kerna Shirk Nahin. RasoolAllah kay farmaan kay mutabiq Ummat kabi Shirk fil Ibadat nahin keray gee. Aap kay baee nay Wasilah maan leeya, aap teenoon baee, Haqeeqat, aap khud, aur Ya Allah madad baee, mil ker likh denh kay aap in sab points ko qabool kertay hen aur aynda in subjects per ikhtilaafi behas nahin keren gay, meh is subject ko dobara choona be nahin pasand keroon ga, magir keyun kay Wahabiyoon kee fitrat ka pata heh, kuttay kee dumb wala hisaab heh seedi rakho toh seedi zera deel deeh apni asliyat per aa gaee. Abhi agir is maslay ko hadoora chora jahay toh phir kal shoroon say is subject per behas krnay peray gee, keyun nah ek dafa fesla ho jahay. Baqi raha aap ka kehna kay aur subjects be hen, toh janab, pehlay aap yeh niba lenh, inshallah meh bee yahan per hoon aur aap bee, aap subject topic muntakhib ker lee jeeyeh ga, alhamdulillah joh subject aap choose keren gay, Millad, Fatiha, Geeyarween, Ilm e Ghayb, Hadhir Nadhir, Ilm e Ghayb Qulli {ba muqabilah e makhlooq}, Ikhtiyaaraat e Mustafa, Noori Bashariat, Wahdat Ul Wajood, weghera ... joh aap choose keren gay, aap ya aap kay muntakhib keeyeh huway fard say one to one debate kernay kay leyeh tiyar hoon, aur wesay bee meh tarjeeh deta hoon ONE TO ONE debate ko. Aap ka yeh asool nahin joh kaam ghairullah kay naam per keeya jahay woh haram heh Shirk heh, agir aap ko pata nahin toh Talib Ur Rehmaan ka munazira Maulana Saeed Asad kay saath huwa thah us ko suneh, yeh us'see say sun ker biyaan keeya heh. Baat asool kay mutabiq heh, aap kay maulvi waziya ilfaaz meh meri bateh kahen ya nah magir Usool aap ka heh, hamara nahin. Aap ko booh bot aati heh tumari naaq kharaab heh, keyun kay khaadim nay Shia rafziyoon say orkut per, Ummahat Ul Momineen kay ahle Bayt honay per, Ameer Muawiyah kay Momin Sahabi honay per, Khilafat e KHulafa e Rashidah per, aur Sahabah kay momin honay per tehreeri munazireh keeyeh, Quran o Sunnat kee roshini meh Shiyat ka rad keeya aur Shia kay maulviyoon kee pent utaari. Yeh lenh: * http://www.orkut.com/Main#Community.aspx?r...mp;cmm=26813293 Aap kee naaq kharab heh aap ko kushboon bee aap ko booh aati heh, naaqh ka ilaaj kerwahen.
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Hindu Kafir nahin :Deobandi Fatwa
RadiatingAli replied to Ya Mohammadah's topic in فتنہ وہابی دیوبندی
Rama Karishna Seeta Geeta kee ibadat Shirk nahin, Shirk Arabi ka lafz heh isleyeh Hindu ko Mushhrik nahin keh saktay. Hazrat Maulana Dar Ul Uloom Deoband ka yeh fatwah heh, zeroor qabool farmahen aur hinduwoon ko kush hoon aur KHUD kaffir ho jahayn. -
Sayyidi Ala Hazrat nay Tafsiri tarjumah keeya, ham lafzi tarjumeh kay qahil nahin keyun kay lafzi tarjumeh gumrahi ka basit ban sakta heh aur Tafsiri Tarjumah Ulamah e haq o Mufassireen o Ijmah e Ummat kay mad e nazr rakh ker keeya jata heh. Muhammed Ali
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Yeh joh Hadith aap nay Sahih Muslim say pesh kee heh, yeh haqiqat meh woh waqia heh jab munafiqeen nay RasoolAllah kay Ilm {e Ghayb} ka mazak uraya aur kaha kay yeh keh raha heh kay falan falan jannat meh jahay ga is ko yeh pata nahin ham is kay saath bethay hen, us waqt RasoolAlah ko jalal aya aur MUNAFIQEEN ko challenge deh deh ker farmaya poocho, pochoo mujjay meray rab kee kasam meh us waqt taq yahan say nah hatoon ka jab taq bata nah doon ... kissi nay poochay meray walid kon hen farmaya huzaifah, RasoolAllah kay jalal meh aur izafah huwa jinnay khamosh rehna thah abh woh sawaal poch rahay thay yehni Sahabah, halanh kayyeh challenge to munafiqeen kay leyeh thah, jab Hazrat Umar nay yeh halat dekhi toh phir RasoolAllah kay pahoon pakkar ker farmaya ham raazi hen Allah kay mabood honay per, Islam kay deen e illahi honay per .... weghera phir RasoolAllah kay jalal meh kami huwi. Sabit huwa kay RASOOLAllah kay ilm e ghayb per wohi ihtiraaz kerta heh joh munafiq hota heh, yehni woh kaffir jis nay dekha'way ka islam qabool keeya ho aur haqiqat meh kaffir hee ho. Abh aap shahid yeh kahen kay Munafiq toh musalmaan hotay hen, toh suneh munafiq kaffir heh musalmaan nahin. Yeh ayaat e Quran Munafiqeen kay mutaliq nazil huwi: Surah 9 Verse 66: "Make ye no excuses: Ye have become KAFFIR after ye had accepted it. If We pardon some of you, We will punish others amongst you, for that they are in sin." Only munafiqeen deny the knowledge of Ghayb of RasoolAllah, the Muslims do not. And Wahabiyah Deobandiyah beleive that RasoolAllah doesnt know Ghayb, Ismail Dehalvi Kaffir wrote in Taqwiyat Ul Imaan that anyone who profess the aqeedah of Ilm e Ghayb for Nabi or Wali such a person is Mushrik, only Allah knows Ghayb. Hence Ismail Dehalvi aposticised from Islam for rejecting the verses of Quran and disbeleiving in Quranic verses which prove Ilm Ul Ghayb of RasoolAllah.
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Jee aap ba bot bot shukria kaay aap nay mujjay ba khabr keeya, aap ISLAM kay naam per agir ittihad keren toh is meh bilqul shirk NAHIN, yeh toh khaadim ka aqeeda heh, magir WAHABIYAT MEH GHAIRULLAH KAY NAAM PER AGIR KOHI AMAL KEEYA JAHAY TOH WOH SHIRK ZEROOR HEH, aap nay ISLAM kay naam per ITTIHAD KA KAHA JOH ghairullah ka naam heh, jistera ham Seikh kay naam per bakra zaiyah keren gay toh muraad yeh nahn kay ham ussay khuda mantay hen aur ham zaibyah kay doraan us seikh ka naam letay hen balkay Allah o akbar bismaillah pertay hen ... toh aap kehtay hen abh is bakray per keyun kay seikh ka naam aa gaya is leyeh soowar ay ziyada haram heh, halan kay haqiqat meh bakra Allah kay naam per zaibyah hota heh aur aur joh sawaab hota heh us ko ham seikh ko gift kertay hen tohfay kay tor per behijtay hen. abh aap apnay asool kay mutabiq MSUHRIK hen, AHLE SUNNAT KAY ASOOL KAY MUTABIQ NAHIN. Is leyeh pehlay aap wahabiat ko litr maren, aur phir Sunni ho jahen, keyun kay yeh sab baqwas joh meh likhta hoon Wahabiat say seekhi aur Wahabiat kay khilaaf istimaal ho rahi heh, aap ko app kay apnay hee asooloon say jang kerna per rahi heh, aap mujjay kuch nah kaha keren, joh kehna heh WAHABIAT KO KEH DEEYA KEREN.
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Jee ham nay bee yeh Hadith peri, ek dafa nahin, das daffa peri, magir keyun kay ham qanay dajjal kay fallowers nahin is leyeh kabi ghalat biyaani nahin kee. Hadith meh tareekhi pas e manzir pesh huwa kay Awliyah kay IDOLS banahay gahay aur phir arsa guzrnay kay baad logoonnay un kee ibadat kerna shoron ker deeh. Is say kesay sabit hota heh Ahle sunnat Wal Jammat nay Awliyah kay IDOLS banahay hen. Joh kissi nabi, wali, janwar ya kissi ka but'h banata heh jahanumi heh. Amal pata nahin kis ka, aur daleel hamaray khilaaf, yeh istera heh jesay meh woh ayaat e quran musalmanoon ko pesh kroon aur kahoon kay tum nay Quran badal deeya: * Surah 2 Verse 79: "Then woe to those who WRITE the Book with their own hands, and then say:"This is from Allah," to traffic with it for miserable price!- Woe to them for what their hands do WRITE, and for the gain they make thereby." Aur yeh ayaat pesh ker kay meh kehna shoroon ho jahoon kay Quran ko badal deeya Wahabiyoon nay, is ka zikr Quran meh aya heh yeh daleel heh kay tum Wahabiyoon nay Quran ko badal deeya. Es'si jahalat o baqwaas ka kohi faida nahin, jistera Hadith ka talluq Ahle Sunnat say nahin ussee tera Quran badalnay ka talluq Wahabiyoon say nahin. Raha masla ghairullah kee ibadat ka toh tum jhoota ho kazab ho, qanay dajjal ho, lanti ho, biddati, balkay KAFFIR ho, keyun kay tum nay farmaan e RasoolAllah kee taqzeeb kee aur kuffr ka fatwah tummeh per lota, RasoolAllah nay farmaya kay Ummat Shirk nahin keray gee, ghairullah kee ibadat nahin keray gee, tum kehtay ho ummat ghairullah kee ibadat kerti heh. Sahih Al Bukhari, Book 76, Number 590: "Narrated 'Uqba bin 'Amir: Once the Prophet went out and offered the funeral prayers for the martyrs of Uhud, and then went to the pulpit and said, "I am a predecessor for you and I am a witness for you: and by Allah, I am looking at my Fount just now, and the keys of the treasures of the earth (or the keys of the earth) have been given to me: and by Allah, I am not afraid that you will commit Shirk {i.e. join partner with Allah and worship others besides Allah} after me, but I am afraid that you will strive and struggle against each other over these treasures of the world." Sahih Bukhari, Book 23, Number 428: "Narrated 'Uqba bin 'Amir: One day the Prophet went out and offered the funeral prayers of the martyrs of Uhud and then went up the pulpit and said, "I will pave the way for you as your predecessor and will be a witness on you. By Allah! I see my Fount (Kauthar) just now and I have been given the keys of all the treasures of the earth (or the keys of the earth). By Allah! I am not afraid that you will worship others along with Allah after my death, but I am afraid that you will fight with one another for the worldly things." Sahih Bukhari, Book 56, Number 795: "Narrated 'Uqba bin 'Amr: The Prophet once came out and offered the funeral prayer for the martyrs of Uhud, and proceeded to the pulpit and said, "I shall be your predecessor and a witness on you, and I am really looking at my sacred Fount now, and no doubt, I have been given the keys of the treasures of the world. By Allah, I am not afraid that you will worship others along with Allah, but I am afraid that you will envy and fight one another for worldly fortunes." Sahih Al Bukhari, Book 59, Number 411: "Narrated Uqba: One day the Prophet went out and offered the (funeral) prayer for the people (i.e. martyrs) of Uhud as he used to offer a funeral prayer for any dead person, and then (after returning) he ascended the pulpit and said, "I am your predecessor before you, and I am a witness upon you, and I am looking at my Tank just now, and I have been given the keys of the treasures of the world (or the keys of the world). By Allah, I am not afraid that you will worship others besides Allah after me, but I am afraid that you will compete with each other for (the pleasures of) this world." Sahih Bukhari, Number 434: "Narrated 'Uqba bin 'Amir: The Prophet went out and offered the funeral prayer for the martyrs of the (battle of) Uhud and then ascended the pulpit and said, "I am your predecessor and I am a witness against you. By Allah, I am now looking at my Tank-lake (Al-Kauthar) and I have been given the keys of the treasures of the earth (or the keys of the earth). By Allah! I am not afraid that after me you will worship others besides Allah, but I am afraid that you will start competing for (the pleasures of) this world." Sahih Muslim, Book 030, Number 5688: "Uqba b. 'Amir reported that Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) one day went out and he offered prayer over the martyrs of Uhud just as prayer is offered over the dead. He then came back and sat on pulpit and said: I shall be present there (at the Cistern) before you. I shall be your witness and, by Allah, I perceive as if I am seeing with my own eyes my Cistern at this very state and I have been given the keys of the treasures of the earth or the keys of the earth and, by Allah, I am not afraid concerning you that you would associate anything (with Allah after me), but I am afraid that you would be vying with one another (for the possession of) the treasures of the earth." Is leyeh tumaray Mushrik, yehni Kaffir honay meh kohi shaq nahin raha. Abh aahi bari ayaat kee taweelaat kee, janab yeh ikhtiyaar ka lafz Quran say sabit ker denh, aur muffasireen ko abh choren, jistera Muhadditheen kee wazahateh, aap qabool kernay per tiyaar nahin, is'see tera yahan per Mufassireen kee Tafasir say be abh gurez keren keyun kay Mufassir kee tafsir ko Quran kee wazia ayaat kay khilaaf heh. Ayaat meh heh kay agir meray pass Ghayb hota, yehni ek ratti bar bee ghayb hota toh meray pass sab kuch hota, yeh Ghayb per ikhtiyaar honay kee nafi nahin, yeh ilm e Ghayb honay kee nafi heh, agir tum is ayaat say lafz ikhtiyaar nikaal doh tumara dawah sabit, abh lafz ikhtiyaar sabit bee nah ho, aur tum us ko muffasir kay kehnay per ikhtiyaar kee nafi tehraho. Jistera Muhaddith ka qaul doh hadisoon kay mutabiq ho joh aapis meh bazahir ikhtilaaf kertay hoon toh tum kehtya ho kay muhaddith ko mana hadith ko nahin mana, abh pet'h meh keyun peer peri aur Mufassir kee tafsir kee taraf keyun bagay. Fuqaha e Ahnaaf kay khilaaf toh tum zehr uglo keyun kay woh Tarjeeh per amal nahin kertay balkay Tashri per chaltay hen yehni doh mutatazad Ahadithoon per woh esa mafoom biyaan kertay hen jin say ikhtilaaf khatam ho jata heh, un kay khilaaf toh tum zehar uglo abh apni baari aahi toh IKHTIYAAR, IKHTIYAAR KA INQAAR HEH ILM E GHAYB ATAHI KA INQAAR NAHIN. Aap kay leyeh is meh sabak heh, khadim ko toh aap tab tanay denh jab meh munkir hota Mufassireen kee wazahatoon ka, khadim pehlay hee manta thah tum nay keyun kay Muhaditheen kee Sharah kay baray meh yeh kaha kay ham un ka qaul mantay hen aur hadith ko nahn mantay toh meh nay jistera ustaad apnay shagird kay leyeh MASHQ, excercise, KERWATA HEH taqay student ko sabak achi teraa yaad ho jahay, meh bee idhar tummeh yeh sab MASHQENH kerwa raha hoon taqay joh sabak tum meri shagirdgi meh reh ker hasal kero achi tera samjoh. Aur alhamdulillah, Ustaad acha heh shagird kabi na laykiyan marta heh magir thori chitrawl kee jahay toh sahih jawab pesh ker sakta heh, is'see tera sabak ko pesh kertay raho, jab meh tumara imtihaan loon ga achay numberoon say pass ho jaho gay peta jee. Aah gaya heh raah pay batooh hee batooh meh, Inshallah haq qabool ker leh ga aur doh chaar latoon say Janab kia kaha kay aap Waseeleh ka inqaar nahin keren gay ... ??? O yeh Muhammed Ali kia perh raha heh .... ankhen mal aur phir perh ... yeh kesay ho sakta heh kay WAHABI joh waseeleh ko shirk, GHAIRULLAH KEE IBADAT, ... QABAR PARASTI SAY MANSOOB KRNAY WALA ... waseeleh ka inqaar nah keray .... balkay optional samjay, Aayeh aap kay points ka jawab haazir heh. Aap ka point kay Waseeleh ka hokam nahin, yeh bilqul ghalat aur Quran say la'ilmi heh warna WASEELEH KA SABOOT QURAN MEH HEH. Surah Al Maidah {5} Verse 35: "O ye who believe! Do your duty to Allah, seek the Wasilah unto Him, and strive in the way of Allah with: that ye may prosper." Allah tallah nay Wasileh ka hokam farmaya aur phir Quran meh yoon bataya bee kay kesay aur kis ko Waseelah banaho: Surah An'Nisa {4} Verse 64: "We sent not an apostle, but to be obeyed, in accordance with the will of Allah. If they had only, when they were unjust to themselves, come unto thee and asked Allah's FORGIVENESS, and the Messenger had asked FORGIVENESS for them, they would have found Allah indeed Oft-returning, Most Merciful." Allah tallah nay farmaya kay gunna'garoon kay RasoolAllah kay pass jana chahyeh thah aur maghfirat kee dua ka kehtay aur Allah kay Rasool un kay leeyeh maghfirat kee dua kertay toh Allah un ko maaf farma deta. Note keren Allah nay yeh nahin kaha kay muj say MAAFI MANGO, mujjay pukaro directly, balkay bataya kay agir RasoolAllah say dua kertwatay toh Allah maaf farmata. Shahid aap kehen kay yeh sirf hayaat honay kay waqt kee ijazat thee, baad kee nahin, toh arz heh kay Quran kee ayaat taqayamat kay leyeh hen aur in per say joh hkam akhaz hota heh woh har waqt kay musalmaan kay leyeh heh. Peda honay say pehlay yaa dunya say rukhsat honay kay baad kee qed nahin, keyun kay agir Yahoodi peda honay say pehlay dua e Waseelah kertay thay aur Allah un kee dua qabool farmata thah toh dunya say rukhsat honay kay baad kohi qanoon badal gaya? RasoolAllah ka Waseelah, aur istera Waseeleh say dua kerna ya Allah apnay Habib kay saday meri mushkil asaan ker, ya Allah is Wali e kamal kay sadqay meri dua kabool farma, ya Allah apnay is nek banday kay sadqay meri dua qabool farma toh yeh SHIRK nahin. Waseelah muqaribeen hen aur Dua Allah say heh, yehni maanga Allah say jaa raha heh magir muqaribeen ko waseelah bana ker, agir Waseelah Shirk hota tohkabi be RasoolAllah ko waseelah banay ka hokam nah hota, aur nah kabi Allah tallah Yahoodiyoon kee duahen qabool farmata. Waseelah Bot Kismoon Ka Heh, Allah nay namoon ka Waseelah, amaal e Saliha ka Wasilah, Allah nay muqarib bandoon ka Wasilah, aur har type meh Ibadat yehni Dua Allah say sirf waseelah Allah kay muqarib bandoon ka heh, Ya Allah apnay Wali, apnay muqarrib banday, Hazrat data Ali Hujweri kay sadqay, kay Waseeleh say meri dua qabool farmaya ... yeh dua e Wasilah kay ilfaaz hen. Ham aap ko nahin kehtay esa keren, aap JOH MARZI KEREN HAMMEH GHARZ NAHIN, hammeh gharz tab hota heh jab aap jesay jahil, aur ilmi yateem, musalmanoon ko MUSHRIK, MUSHRIK, KA LABEL LAGATAY HEN, qaanay khud hotay hen aur dosroon ko qana kehtay hen. Meh nay pehlay bee bataya kay SHIRK kissi ko pukarnay say nahin hota, shirk aqahid kee bunyaad per lazam ata heh, abh agir kohi kissi ko khuda manay aur nah bee pukaray toh tab bee shirk hoga, aur agir pukar deh toh us kay shirk meh kohi farq nahin peray ga woh mushrik hee rahay ga jesay pukarnay say pehlay thah. Agir pukarnay say Shirk lazam ata toh phir aap abu ko, ammi ko pukartay hen, toh kia Shirk ho gaya, aap atta'hiyat meh ayu'han'nabiyu yehni "O nabi aap per salam..." toh kia aap nay RasoolAllah ko pukara, SHIRK HO GAYA, SHIRK pukarnay say nahin, SHIRK AQAHID SAY LAZAM ATA HEH, AAP RASOOLALLAH KO KHUDA MANEH AAP MUSHRIK, PUKAREN YA NAH PUKAREN AAP MUSHRIK HOON GAY. Agir aap kehtay hen sirf pukarnay say Shirk hota heh toh phir ... aap rozana paanch daffa MUSHRIK HOTAY HEN, KOHI BE ESA SAKHS BATAHEN JOH MUSALMAAN HO AUR PAANCH WAQTI NAMAZI HO. Phir toh musalmaan hee wohi heh MUWAHID hee wohi heh joh NAMAZ NAHIN PERTA. Jee aap bee direct Allah say dua keren, hammeh kia zeroorat heh aap ko badalnay kee, magir SHIRK, BIDDAT, KUFFR, MUSHRIK, kee chaar gardaneh boola denh, keyun kay aap samaj rahay hen kay sirf aap nay hee Quran pera heh baqiyoon ko Quran perna nahin ata, magir aap kee ghalat fehmi heh yeh. Jin ko yeh bata nahin kay Shirk e Akhbar kab kesay lazam ata heh AQAHID kee bunyaad per ya PUKARNAY kee bunyaad per, woh Ummat ko Mushrik keh rahay hen. Aur RasoolAllah kay farmaan kee taqzeeb nah keren RasoolAllah nay farmaya thah kay meri Ummat Shirk nahn keray gee, aap ko kia ziyada pata heh, yaqeenan RasoolAllah ko pata thah kay aap jesay jahil ahen gay aur Ummat ko Mushrik Mushrik likhen kahen gay, is'see leyeh RasoolAllah nay Ummat ko Shirk say bari ker deeya. Nah Deobandi, nah Wahabi, nah Shia, nah Sunni, kohi be Mushrik nahin, sab Muwahid hen,. Hamara Ikhtilaaf aap say meray abbah jee kee jaydad per nahin kay meh apni zaat kay leyeh yahan per beth ker likhoon, jistera aap ko deen kee tableegh ka shok heh, alhamdulilah ham ko be heh kay logoon kee islah keren. Allah tallah aap ko hidayat deh,
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Wesay tum nay Qulli aur Juzi kee takhsees kee heh toh arz heh kay kia is hadith say Milaad Juzi tor per sabit hoti heh ya nahin: * Sahih Muslim, Book 006, Number 2606: "Abu Qatada Ansari (Allah be pleased with him) reported that Allah's Massenger (may peace be upon him) was asked about fasting on Monday, whereupon he said: It is (the day) when I was born and revelation was sent down to me." Meh toh samajta hoon kay kulli tor per sabit hoti heh, aur celebrate kernay ka ek juz be sabit hota heh, wesay aap ko ijazat heh joh marzi jawab denh magir takhsees e juzi kulli ko mad e nazr rakh ker jawab dee jeeyeh ga.
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Agir esa thah toh phir SAHABAH nay KABAH KO KEYUN NAH GHUSUL DEEYA? Tooh kia RasoolAllah kay farmaan kee Tashri Sahabah say behtr ker sakta heh, joh Sahabah ka amal hoga woh MAFOOM e farmaan e RasoolAllah hoga. Agir ghusul bee muraad hota toh phir keyun ghusul nah deeya, SIRF IS LEYEH KAY UNOON NAY IS HADITH SAY GHUSUL MURAAD NAH LEEYA, AGIR LEEYA HOTA TOH GHUSUL DEEYA JATA. Sahabah kay baad Tabi, aur phir Tabi'tabiyoon ahay taqriban 100 saal guzer janay kay taq Tabi tabiyoon hayaat thay, agir FARMAAN E RASOOLALLAH KA mafoom ghusul DENA be hota toh phir kitni ajeeb baat heh kay 100 saal taq yeh farmaan Sahabah, Tabi, Tabi Tabiyoon kay samnay raha magir kissi nay KABAH YA KISSI AUR MASJID ko ghusul nahin deeya, aaj WAHABI AHAY AUR INOON NAY HADITH KO SAHIH SAMJA. Sahabi ko RasoolAllah kay farmaan ka mafoom nahin pata magir WAHABI ko pata heh, lanat ho Wahabiyat per. Abh toh meri posts ka jawab bee nahin aa raha, AbdulSalam sahib per ek post ka udhar char gaya aur woh utray ga bee nahin, keyun kay MILAAD toh maan leeh in'noon nay. Aur Haqeeqat per be doh udhar char chukay hen ek pichli post aur us say pichli ka bee jawab nahin deeya gaya sirf : "meh na kehta thah ... is leyeh ... yooh huwa ... quran hadith .... bahir say andar say ... upper say neechay say .... maslan kaha thah .... tum ko samaj nahn aati .... is leyeh yeh shirk heh .... barelwi mushrik pagal sabot ho gaya." Aur ek doh lines likhnay kaay baad post ker deeya jesa kay kohi jawab likha heh, lagta heh wahabiat meh joh marzi likh deeya jahay toh MAQOOL RAD TEHRAYA JATA HEH. Tars ata heh tumari ilmi oqaat dekh ker, ... apnay aap ko baray kutb ul aftaab samaj rahay hogay, ... halan kay asliyat yeh heh kay bunyaadi uloom ka bee pata nahin.
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Brailviat k nazdeek hooli ki mathai khana halal hai.
RadiatingAli replied to MOUWAHID's topic in مناظرہ اور ردِ بدمذہب
Joh guftgooh hoti heh us ka jawab deeya keren apni hanka nah shoroon ker deeya keren. TUM SABIT KERO KAY HOLI KEE MATHAHI GHAIRULLAH KAY NAAM KEE KESAY HEH? Aur maslay ko dodge mat kero abh. Moderators ko chahhyeh kay discussions ko regulate keren, aur mukhalifeen ko paband keren, sirf Wahabi hee nahin Sunniyoon ko bee kay woh points ka jawab deeya keren, warna thread meh nah likha keren. Yeh kohi tareeka nahin kay ham yahan per likh likh ker maren aur yeh aa ker apni betalluq kahaniyan likhen, debate meh mukhalif ko paband keren kay woh jawab deh warna joh essay nahin kertay un ko forum say farigh keren. Abh jab is kee gardan pansi thee toh is nay bajahay yeh sabit kernay kay leyeh kay Holi Ghairullah {Idols} kay naam kee kesay heh, is nay apni shoroon ker deeh heh. Istera chalakiyoon say masail ko hal nahn honay deh rahay. Jab in ko pata lagta heh kay nangay hoon gay toh yeh agay peechay kee bateh shoroon ker detay hen. Ya forum ko bilqul hee band ker denh ya is ko regulate keren achay tareekay say, kay ikhtilaafi masail hal hoon, abhi yeh topi darama dekhen, bajahay mri batoon points ka rad kernay ka jawab denay ka is nay bilqul kohi jawab nahin deeya kissi nuqtay ka, istera discussions nahin hoti, rule banahen kay MUKHALIF KAY POINT POINT KA JAWAB DEEYA JAHAY. Kahan per meh nay IDOL kee definition likhi aur kahan per meh nay Hazrat Isa o Maryam ko Idol likha? Joh baat huwi nahin is ko shoroon kernay ka faida, is tumaray comment ka kis point say talluq heh? Agir tum samajtay ho kay lafz 'Ghairullah' Quran meh Isa alayhis Salam aur Maryam Alayhis Salam kay leyeh bolay gahay hen toh zera pesh toh kero kay kon see ayaat heh. Meh nay pichli post meh un sab ayaaton ka reffence deeya heh jin meh ilfaaz Ghairullah ka istimaal huwa heh abh tum pero aur bataho kay kon see ayaat meh Isa aur Maryam alayhis salam ko Allah nay Ghairullah tehraya heh. Joh Hazrat Isa alayhis Salam ko Idol, Maryam alayhis salam ko Idol LIKHAY PAKKA KAFFIR heh. Hamari IDOL kee definition yeh heh, KISSI BE MADI CHEESE SAY KISSI CHEESE KA PUTLA BANA'NA aur jis putlay ko khuda mana jahay, woh IDOL HEH, But'h heh. Hazrat Isa alayhis salam ko Idol kehnay wala pakka Kaffir, wajib ul qatal, jahanum ka kutta heh. Allah tallah nay butoon kay leyeh yeh ayaat utari: * Surah Nahl [16] verses {17} Is then He, Who creates as one who creates not? Will you not then receive admonition? [20]. Those whom they invoke against Allah have not created anything, but are themselves created. [21]. (They are) dead, lifeless, and they know not when they will be raised up." But'h woh hen jin meh jaaan nahin be jaan hen, aur idols be jaan hotay hen. * Surah Al Furqan [25] verse 3: “Yet have they taken mindu’nillah [Against Allah] gods that can create nothing but are themselves created; that have no control of hurt or good to themselves; nor can they control death nor life nor resurrection.“ Awliyah Allah aur Ambiyah mojzaat o karamaat kertay hen, Isa alayhis salam nay matti ka parinda banaya aur us meh jaan phoonk deeh, aur Allat Uzat kuch nahin bana saktay, * Surah Az’zumar [39] verse 43 Allah states: “What! Do they take for intercessors others besides Allah. Say: "Even if they have no power whatever and no intelligence?" Agir Ambiyah o Awliyah IDOLS nahn ho saktay keyun kay un meh aqal aur feham heh, IDOLS woh hen jin meh aqal o feham aur kissi kism kee taqat nahin na chalnay kee bolnay kee kuch bee nahin ... Aur aakhir meh Allah tallah nay IDOLS kay mutaliq farmaya heh: * Surah Al Anbiya [21] 98: “Verily ye, and the gods that ye worship Mindunillah [against Allah], are FUEL for Hell! to it will ye (surely) come!” Aur is uper wali ayaat kee wazahat Allah nay yoon kee heh: * Surah Al Baqarah {2} Verse 24: ”But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and STONEs,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith.” Jahanum kee aag ka endan pathar hen, yehni pathroon kay banahay huway but'h weghera ... Mukhtasar IDOL woh heh joh maadi cheese say banaya jahay, jis meh quwat nahin, murda heh, be jaan heh, aqal nahin aur kuch bana be nahin sakta, nafa nahin deh sakta, nuqsaan nahin deh sakta , yehni abh Ganesh ka IDOL kia banahay ga, kia nafa deh ga, kia nuqsaan deh sakta heh, us meh kitni jaan heh aap khud soch saktay hen ... Aur yeh sab IDOLS jahanum meh jahen gay. Pehlay din bee haram NAHIN halal thee. Jis ko Allah nay HALAL FARMAYA HO WOH HARAM KESAY HO GAEE? Khanay kee joh cheese halal heh woh halal heh, jab taq us ka haram hona Quran o Hadith say sabit nah ho, sharab haram sabit heh, soowar haram sabit heh, weghera weghera ... aur ghairullah kay naam per zabiyah keeyeh janay walay janwar ka khana be haram heh, mathahi joh DIN BADALNAY SAY HARAM HALAL NAHIN HOTI, AAJ MONDAY HEH TOH HALAL HEH AAJ TUESDAY HEH TOH HARAM HEH, WOH HALAL HEH HOLI WALAY DIN BE AUR US KAY BAAD BE, MAGIR keyun kay HOLI walay din lenay say is ka shayba hota heh kay woh HOLI kee celebration MEH SHAREEK ho raha heh is leyeh Sayyidi Ala Hazrat nay is say roka AUR FARMAYA DOSRAY DIN LENAY MEH KOHI HARJ NAHIN, AUR IS NIYAT SAY KAY YEH KHANAY KEE CHEESE HEH JOH DEE JAA RAHI HEH, TAB LENA JAHIZ HEH, RasoolAllah nay farmaya: in'namal amalu min niyaat amaal ka dar o madar niyat per heh jab us nay khanay kee cheese samaj ker leeh nakay holi kee celebration kee mathahi toh joh us kee NIYAT THEE woh us'see niyat kay mutabiq us ka amal dekha jahay ga. Mufassireen kee tafasir pesh nahin keen theen, irada thah magir tarq ker deeya thah, tum khud in sab ayaat perh tafasir check ker loh inshallah mera dawah ghalat sabit ho nahin sakta, Alhamdulillah is meh hamari zillat nahin, aap kee pent utri heh, 'TUMARA DAWAH THAH KAY HOLI KEE MATHAHI GHAIRULLAH KAY NAAM KEE HEH.' meh nay neechay say zameen kench deeh kay GHAIRULLAH KAY NAAM KEE TAB HOGI JAB WOH KISSI BUT'H KAY NAAM KI HO, YEHNI RAMA, KARISHNA, SEETA GEETA, SHIVA, HOLI EK TEWAAR HEH JISTERA EID EK TEWAAR HEH. Abh pent aap kee utri, pehlay toh aap ka dawa thah kay yeh ghairullah kay naam kee heh, tum daway ko sabit kero, mujjay pata heh abh tum agay peechay kee maro gay aur jawab nahin heh tumaray pass. Rahi Hadith kay jis qom nay jis qom ko apnaya woh uni meh say heh toh yeh aap kee ghalat biyaani heh Hadith kee tashri meh, meh hadith kee wazahat ker deta hoon. Rasoolallah Arab thay, zubaan be Arabi, rehan sehan ka tariqa weghera Arabiyoon ka toh abh un ko gernman kom say mansoob kerna kay woh Gernman thay toh kohi tuq banti heh. Joh jis tera kay kapray pehanta heh woh ussi kom say heh. Magir is ka matlab yeh nahin kay is mawafqat say us kay tor e tareekay say kissi kay imaan o islam per farq ata heh, kia woh logh joh england america meh musalmaan huway, woh pent pehantay hen, shirt weghera tor o tareeka sab wohi, zubaan be wohi sirf mazhib badla toh batayeh kay woh kalmah prnay kay bavjooh be kaffir heh? Agir kohi pakistaniyoon kee tera shalwar kameez aur urdu bolta heh toh kia woh FRENCH hoga? Ya chinese, ... kuttay kay bachay kohi aqal kee baat kero, RasoolAllah kee hadisoon ko tor mor ker pesh ker rahay ho. RasoolAllah nay bataya kay joh jis zubaan hasb a nasb tor o tareekeh ko apnahay woh ussi qom say heh, Joh peda pakistan meh huwa ho, bolta urdu ho, maan baap pakistani hoon, kapray weghers sab pakistaniyoon yehni shalwar kameez toh joh us kee mawafqat heh woh ussi kom say heh, yehni PAKISTANI. Hinduwoon say mawafqat kee toh, phir MUSHRIK E MAKKA BE TAWAF KERTAY THAY, WOH BE SAFFA MARWA PER DOR LAGAYA KERTAY THAY, WOH BE HAJR E ASWAD KO ALLAH KEE NISHANI SAMJA KERTAY THAY, TUM AUR UN MEH KIA farq heh? Kia Sahabah RasoolAllah mazallah astaghfirullah mushrik thay is waja say kay unoon nay wohi rasoomaat per amal keeya jin ko MUSHRIK kertay thay? Khabees Kaffir is kism kee mangarat hadithoon per sharah say yahee nateejeh nikaltay hen. Nah Quran ka pata nah hadith ka pata moon lotay kee tera utha ker aa gaya behas kay leeyeh, lanti insaan pehlay perh toh sahih kay Sharaheen kay is hadith kee sharah meh kia likha heh, RasoolAllah nay farmaya thah kay Wahabi Quran o Hadith kee baat keren gay magir hoon gay parlay darjay kay intihahi bewaqoof. Sahih Bukhari, Book 1, Number 1: Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab: I heard Allah's Apostle saying, "The reward of deeds depends upon the intentions and every person will get the reward according to what he has intended. So whoever emigrated for worldly benefits or for a woman to marry, his emigration was for what he emigrated for." Abh agir kohi khanay kee cheese samaj ker leta heh toh phir HOLI kee mathahi toh nah huwi nah. Jab Allah us ko niyat kay mutabiq determine keray ga toh aap WAHABIYAT kay mutabiq keyun judge ker rahay hen issay. -
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Meray point ka jawab kon deh ga, ... Quran meh Ghairullah say muraad IDOLS hen ... RasoolAllah nay farmaya thah kay Wahabi Quran nahin samjen gay, Quran peren gay magir khalq say neechay nahin utray ga. Hazrat Ibn Abbas Radiallah Tallah Anh ka qaul heh, kay makhlooq e khuda meh sab say baray shararti woh logh hen joh but'toon per nazil kee gaee ayaat ko MUSALMANOON per thomptay hen. Kharijiat kee shaakh Wahabiat, heh aur yeh uni'nee ka pesha thah aur heh. Yeh lenh aap mujjay batahen kay in doh ayaat meh contradiction joh heh woh kistera door hogi: * Surah 7 Verse 188: "Say: "I have no power over any good or harm to myself except as Allah willeth. If I had knowledge of the unseen, I should have multiplied all good, and no evil should have touched me: I am but a warner, and a bringer of glad tidings to those who have faith." V.S. * Surah 72 Verse 26: "He (alone) knows the Unseen, nor does He make any one acquainted with His Ghayb,- {27} "Except an apostle whom He has chosen: and then He makes a band of watchers march before him and behind him," Jee aap batahen kay donoon meh say kon see ayaat per imaan heh, ek meh BAQAUL WAHABIYAT ILM E GHAYB kee NAFI heh aur dosri meh Allah ka farmaan heh kay woh apnay chunnay huway RAsool ko ilm e Ghayb deta heh. Batayeh donoon ayaat meh say aap kis ko maneh gay, donoon ko maan nahin saktay, abh kalay rang ko kala aur saffaid donoon beyak waqt nahin man saktay ya kala hoga ya saffaid donoon nahin. Aap batahen itni wazia ayaat hen magir contradiction joh kalam e illahi meh muhaal heh, woh is QURAN meh kesay heh, agir contradiction nahin toh phir correct understanding kia hen donoon ayaat kee, zera HADITH E RASOOLALLAH IS IKHTILAAF KO DOOR FARMA DENH TAKAY IJTIHAAD O FIQHAH KEE ZEROORAT NAH PERAY. Nah tummeh Quran ka pata heh aur nah kuch aur ka: * Surah 2 Verse 89: "And when there comes to them a Book from Allah, confirming what is with them,- although from of old they had prayed for VICTORY against those without Faith,- when there comes to them that which they (should) have recognized, they refuse to believe in it but the curse of Allah is on those without Faith." Is ayaat kee Tafsir meh Hazrat Ibn Abbas Radiallah tallah farmatay hen: "(And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession) which accords with that which is in their possession (though before that) before Muhammad (pbuh) (they were asking for a signal triumph) through Muhammad and the Qur'an (over those who disbelieved) of their enemies: the tribes of Asad, Ghatafan, Muzaynah, and Juhaynah (and when there cometh unto them that which they knew) of his traits and description in their Book (they disbelieved therein) they denied it was him. (The curse of Allah) His wrath and torment (is on disbelievers) the Jews." Aur Tafsir e Jalalayn meh: "(And when there cometh unto them a Scripture from Allah, confirming that in their possession) which accords with that which is in their possession (though before that) before Muhammad (pbuh) (they were asking for a signal triumph) through Muhammad and the Qur'an (over those who disbelieved) of their enemies: the tribes of Asad, Ghatafan, Muzaynah, and Juhaynah (and when there cometh unto them that which they knew) of his traits and description in their Book (they disbelieved therein) they denied it was him. (The curse of Allah) His wrath and torment (is on disbelievers) the Jews". Tafsir e Asbab Un Nuzul by al Wahidi: (…though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved…) [2:89]. Said Ibn 'Abbas: “The Jews of Khaybar were at war with Ghatafan, and whenever the two parties used to meet, Khaybar ended up in defeat. For this reason they devised the following supplication: 'O Allah! We beseech You by the truth of the unlettered Prophet whom You promised to send forth to us at the end of time to give us victory over them'. And so whenever they said this supplication, Ghatafan was defeated. But when the Prophet, Allah bless him and give him peace, was sent forth, they disbelieved in him. It is due to this that Allah, exalted is He, revealed (…though before that they were asking for a signal triumph over those who disbelieved) i.e. by means of you, O Muhammad, up to His saying (The curse of Allah is on disbelievers)”. And al-Suddi said: “The Arabs used to pass by the Jews and expose the latter to some harm. The Jews knew the description of Muhammad in the Torah and used to ask Allah to send him so that they could fight with him against the Arabs. When Muhammad, Allah bless him and give him peace, came to them, they disbelieved in him out of resentful envy. They said: 'all the messengers were from the descendents of Jacob, how is it that this one is a descendent of Ishmael?' ” Is say sabit hota heh kay Yahoodi Allah say dua kertay thay kay Ya Allah ham ko Prophet Muhammed kay wasileh say jang meh fatah deh ... aur Allah farmata kay ham in ko fatah detay aur jab in kay pass Allah ka Nabi aya toh unoon nay inqaar ker deeya. Is say sabit hota heh kay Wasileh say dua kerna Allah us ko kabool farmata heh aur Shirk nahin. Aur agir kissi be makhlooq ko khuda maan ker pukara jahay, balkay agir us ko nah bee pukara jahay toh Shirk lazam ata heh aur shakhs islam say kharij ho jata heh. Shirk lazam honay kay leyeh kissi ko pukarna zeroori nahin balkay shirk aqeedeh kee bunyaad per hota heh, jistera kohi musalmaan agir dua nah keray toh woh tab bee muwahid hee hoga, keyun kay aqeedah Shirk o tawheed ka tayun kerta heh. Is;see tera agir kohi makhlooq ko khuda maan leh aur madad kay leyeh nah bee pukaray toh tab be Mushrik hoga, Shirk aqahid say lazam ata heh madad say pukarnay say nahin. Abh agir kissi ko Allah kee makhlooq maano toh shirk nahin, aur agir khud mano toh Shirk heh, aur agir khuda maan ker madad kay leyeh pukaro toh shirk hoga, aur insaan samaj ker pukaro toh Shirk nahin hoga ... yehni SHIRK ka talluq aqahid say heh, pukarnay say nahin, agir nah pukaro toh tab bee shirk ho sakta heh magir condition yeh heh kay us kay makhlooq ko Allah ka shareek banaya jahay. Yeh teri samaj say bahir kee baat heh, pehlay Shirk ko achi tera samjoh phir muj say aa ker baat kerna, tumaray mazhib meh sirf pukarnay say shirk lazam ata heh meray mazhib meh agir nah pukaro magir aqeedah yeh ho kay falan khuda heh toh tab bee Shirk hoga. Aur agir khudaa maan ker pukaro toh tab bee Shirk hoga, shirk oukarnay say nahin Shirk tab bee lazam thah jab us nay pukara nahin thah, keyun kay aqeedeh meh woh khuda manta heh ghair khuda ko. Is leyeh pukarnay ya pukarnay say farq nahin peray ga, woh apnay aqeedeh kee bunyaad per MUSHRIK hee tehrahay ga. Meri shagirdgi kero inshallah Tawheed aur Shirk per mastaer bana doon ga tummeh.
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Andoon meh be qana Rajah, pehlay tumara yeh sawal thah: . Jis ka jawab meh nay deeya thah, Tum nay likha kay baat haram aur halal kee nahin ho rahi, toh jawab arz heh kay tumara baap aya thah joh woh upper wala sawaal likh ker gaya thah. Joh tum nay swaal keeya us ka jwab meh nay deeya. JOh tum nay muj say sawaal keeya meh nay us ka jwab deeya, joh dosra tum nay sawaal keeya thah woh Mukhtar baee say keeya thah is leyeh meh nay us ka jawab nahin deeya thah. Awal arz heh kay aap ka sawaal: Kia holi kee mathahi ghairullah kay naam kee heh ya nahin? Jahilana heh keyun kay Holi ek tewaar heh, jistera Eid ek tewaar heh, ghairullah technical term IDOL kay leyeh heh, abh is Holi meh joh mathahi taqseem hoti heh woh kesay kissi IDOL kee huwi, sense nahin banta. Jistera Pakistani Independance Day meh agir kohi kissi ko pakistani independance day kee celebration kay tor per kohi tohfay kay tor per mathahi deta heh toh is ko GHAIRULLAH KAY NAAM PER LAGA KER haram nahin ker saktay, aur naH ussay GHAIRULLAH say mansoob ker saktay hen keyun kay woh IDOL kay naam per nahin dee gaee. Holi agir kohi IDOL hota toh phir us kee mathahi be IDOL kay naam per hoti, magir jab HOLI ek tewaar heh, jistera eid ek tehwar heh, abh eid kee celebration kee mathahi ko ghairullah kay naam kee mathahi nahin tehraya ja sakta. Halan kay Eid linguistically ghairullah heh, magir istilah e Qurania meh Ghairullah say muraad IDOLS hen, yehni Alat., Uzat, Manat. Aur is'see leyeh Imam Ahmad Raza nay farmaya kay HOLI kay din mathahi lena, un kee HOLI meh shareek hona kay barabar hoga, aur dosray din agir lenh aur khanay peenay kee cheese samaj ker lnh toh kohi harj nahin. IS LEYEH HOLI KEE MATHAHI GHAIRULLAH KAY NAAM KEE NAHIN. Woh ghairullah kay naam kee us waqt hogi jab woh Shiva, Seeta, Geeta, Rama Karishna, Ganesh, Alat, Uzat, Manat kay naam per dee jahay, Holi kee mathahi ek teewaar kee kushi kee mathahi heh. Aayeh abhi dekhtay hen kay Ghairullah ka lafz Quran meh kahan per istimaal huwa, aur un ayaat kay mutaliq Mufassireen nay kia farmaya heh: Following Are References - "GHAIRULLAH" # Al-Baqara (The Cow) > [2:173] # An-Nisa (The Women)> [4:82] # Al-Ma'idah (The Table Spread) > [5:3] # Al-An'am (The Cattle) > [6:14] # [6:40][6:46][6:114][6:145][6:164] # [7:140][7:146]Yunus[10:23] # An-Nahl (The Bee)[16:115] # [16:52]Al-Qasas (The Narration)[28:71] # [28:72][28:39] * Fatir (The Originator of Creation)[35:3] # Az-Zumar (The Groups)[39:64] # Ghafir (The Forgiver)[40:75] # Fussilat (Explained in Detail)[41:15] # Al-Ahqaf (The Curved Sandhills) [46:20] # At-Tur (The Mount) [52:43] Chand ayaat meh Allah tallah nay wazia ilfaaz meh Ghairullah ko IDOLS kay saath jora heh, aur baqiyoon meh sirf zameer uthahi heh IDOLS kee taraf. Meh nay apnay jawab kee saath hee wazahat be ker deeh aur joh bunyadi dalahil thay woh be pesh ker deeyeh. Tumaray response ka betabi say intizaar heh Zillat aap ka intizaar ker rahi heh, jaldi say shareek ho aur besat hoon. -
Baee sahib agir mujjay pata nahin kay Wahabiyat meh Ijtihaad kee kia hasiyat heh aur ijtihaad kesay keeya jata heh toh aap batahen, meh toh seekhnay kay leyeh tiyaar hoon. Yeh Shahid aap kay leyeh jahilana bateh hoon, meh nay toh Hadith ko mad e nazr rakh ker baat kee heh. Abh meray mutalbaat kay WAZIA EXPLICIT DIRECT daleel kay aap ko jahilana, hat'dharmi, lagtay hen, toh aap ko pata heh kay BARELWI QABR PARAST be Milaad Shareef subject per aap kay WAZIA EXPLICIT DIRECT dalahil kay mutalbat ko jahilana, begherati, aur hat'dharmi samajtay hen. Jistera tum abhi Ghusul e Kabah kay subject per, ek tukra ek hadith ka jora, thora say udhar say leeya, totay jor jor ker tum GHUSUL E KABAH sabit ker rahay ho, jistera tum 10 pesay, 50 pesay 1 pesay, 2 pesay jor jor kr 1 rupaiya bana rahay ho yehni ghusul e kabah sabit ker rahay ho, is'seee tera BARELWI be Milaad kay subject per, ada tota ek hadith say, thora udhar say, thora idhar say, 50 pesay, 10 pesay, chawani, jor jor ker 1 rupaiya banatay hen, aur Milaad e RasoolAllah ko sabit kertay hen. Barelwiyoon say toh tum kehtay ho Biddati Barelwiyoh: "HADITH PESH KER JIS MEH SAHABAH NAY MILAAD KO GALI KOOCHOON MEH CELEBRATE KEEYA HO, WAZIA DALEEL PESH KERO, SAHABAH NAY JANDAY UTHA KER GALIYOON MEH 11 RABI UL AWAL KO MILAAD MANAYA HO." Abh jab meh nay bilqul aap ka apna kareena, aap ka apna asool, aap kay galay meh dala aur mutalbah keeya, Biddati Wahabiyoh: "EK WAZIYAH HADITH PESH KERO JIS MEH SAHABAH NAY GHUSUL DEEYA HO KABAH KO, MASJID KO, YA RASOOLALLAH NAY HOKAM DEEYA HO ESA KRNAY KA." toh aap nay toh meri AUR HAQIQAT MEH APNay wahabi mazhib ko in ilfaaz say nawaza: "Jis tarah ki jahilana batain aap ker rahay hain iss hat-dharmi ka koi haal naheen." Kaha toh mujjay heh magir meh nay asool aap kay istimaal keeyeh hen toh haqiqat meh aap apnay aap ko hee keh rahay hen, asmaan per peshaab kernay kee koshish kero gay toh moon meh peray ga. Aray baee, agir Fiqah e Imam Abu Hanifah aur un kay Asool e Fiqah ka munkir hona kohi jurm heh toh aap be toh barabar kay shareek hen is meh, Kia aap chahtay hen kay Muqalideed Imamoon kee Taqleed meh Fiqah ko kabool keren, kia aap kay aur meray apnay Wahabi mazhib meh Taqleed Shirk nahin? Kia meray aur aap kay mazhib yehni Wahabiat meh Taqleed e Shakhsi gumrahi, Biddati, Shirk nahin, agir heh toh phir mujjay keyun tana deh rahay hen kay tum Fiqh e Ha'nafi kay munkir ho. Tum ko toh kush hona chahyeh kay meh nay Taqleed chor deeh heh aur Fiqah e Imam Abu Hanifah ka munkir ho gaya hoon aur Quran o Hadith kay dalahil per amal kerta hoon. Pagal kutta abh kambay ko nochay, ... jab kohi aur chara nah chala, aur naaq kay bal gaseeta gaya toh Fiqah e Hanifah kay munkir ho, munkir ho, jesay tooh Imam Abu Hanifah kee Fiqh ka mama lagta heh. Chalo tum likh doh kay tum Fiqh e Imam Abu Hanifah ka aur Asool e Fiqh e Imam Abu Hanifah kay mutabiq kohi be fesla ho tum kabool kero gay, meh khud Asool e Fuqha e Ahle Sunnat kay mutabiq Ghusul e Kabah kee wazahat aur dalahil e Ijtihadiyah say is ko sabit ker doon ga. Joh asool aap ghairoon kay leyeh istimaal kertay hen ussay apnoon kay leyeh be istimaal keren aur agir aap ka amal aap kay asool kay khilaaf heh toh phir ya amal ko choren ya phir asool ko badlen, agir tum totay joro aur maslay sabit kero toh phir Barelwiyoon kay leyeh bee yahee asool qabool kero un kay bee totay juray huway qabool kero, agir un kay totoon ko kabool nahin kertay aur biddat tehratay ho toh phir apnay bee jorna chor doh aur ghusul e kabah ko biddat tehra doh. Jistera tum Barelwiyoon say expect kertay ho kay woh tumaray totay juray huway maan lenh aur jistera tum apnay totay juray huwoon ko sahih Quran o Hadith kee tarjumani samajtay ho is'see tera agay walay BARELWI bee apnay totoon ko Quran o Sunnat kee tarjumani samajtay hen, mukhtasar ya totay jorna chor doh, ya joh jortay hen un ko bura kena chor doh. Yeh begherati, Munafqat chor doh kay Wahabi keren toh theek heh aur Barelwi keren toh ghalat heh, deen ek heh aur sab kay leyeh asool ek hen, agir barelwi Biddati hen totay jornay kee bina per toh phir aap bee us'see jurm meh shareek hen aur aap per be wohi fatwah lagta heh joh aap un per lagatay hen, yhni biddati. Do rangi chor deh yak rang hoja Sarasar mom'h ya sang ho jah Apnay aap ko badlo, yeh joh sabak tummeh mil raha heh is per ghor kero, aur marnay say pehlay Wahabiyat say tobah ker loh. Meh bee Wahabi thah aur meh Wahabi ban jata hoon jab zeroorat perti heh toh, batoon say deen samaj nahin ata soch say ata heh apnay aap meh soch peda kero.Agir meri replies per ker tumaray andar ka soya huwa insaan jaag nah sakka toh phir shahid kabi bee nah jagay. Muhammed Ali Razavi
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Aap batahen kay Wahabiyoon nay Maulana Noorani Miyan say ittihad keyun keeya, bala Mushrik say ittihad kesay jahiz heh? Aur apnay sar par kulhari marna aap say kohi seekhay ... itni maharat heh Sawaal ka jawab deejiyeh chor qotowal ko dantay ... girbaan meh jahank ker dekh meray bachay ... meh nay teray jesay bot say anday sheeshoon ko roshan keeya heh. Teri handiyat be gul ker doon ga.
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Keroon kia Wahabiyah aqal pay matam teri, Ikhtilaaf samja hee nah, bewaqofi asliyat teri, {Yeh Joh Kuch Be Likhoon Ga Wahabiyat Kay Asooloon Kay Mutabiq Likhoon Ga, Yeh Mowaqif Ahle Sunnat Ka Nahin, Yeh Behas Wahabi V.S. Wahabi-Asool kay darmiyaan heh.} Hadith meh ayah heh kay MASJID KO SAAF RAKHO, magir saf kis tera kero, yeh tareeka nahin bataya, kia Sahabah nay MASJIDOON KO GHUSUL DEEYA THAH, agir Sahabah nay nahin deeya toh sabit ho gaya kay masjid ko ghusul dena jahiz nahin. Ek hadith PESH kero jis meh yeh likha ho kay MASJID KO SAAF KERO GHUSUL DEH KER, Sunnat wohi heh joh RasoolAllah nay keeh aur un kay Sahabah nay us kay ilawah toh har cheese biddat heh, abh agir Sahabah nay Masjid ko ghusul deeya toh ghusul kee daleel pesh kero, aur agir Sahabah nay sirf masjid meh jarooh deeya, aur pat'thoo [leaves} say safahi kee toh phir yahee Sunnat heh, warna ghusul dena Biddat heh. Jistera Sahabah nay masjid ko saaf keeya, ustera kerna chahyeh, is kay ilawah Biddat heh Biddat. Han Hadith meh takhsees nahin kee gahahi magir SAHABAH nay kistera is hadith per, is hokam e RasoolAllah per amal keeya. Sahabah toh RasoolAllah kay farmaan ko behtreen samajtay hen, unoon nay is hadith per kistera amal keeya. RasoolAllah nay toh takhsees nahin kee, magir Sahabah nay is hadith per kesay amal keeya, ghusul deeya, jarooh mara, aur sab say behtreen, afzal understanding Sahabah kee heh is hadith per.Abh Sahabah ko chor ker ham kesay ghusul deh saktay hen, Sahabah nay jarooh mara ho aap is ko chor ker ghusul denh toh kia apnay aap ko Sahabah say behtr samajtay hen, kia aap ka feham RasoolAllah kay Sahabah say behtr heh.? Jistera Sahabah nay RasoolAllah kay farmaan per amal keeya wohi mafoom e hadith hoga, wohi farmaan e RasoolAllah kay mafoom tehraya jahay ga. Abh agir yeh hadith har MASJID kay leyeh thee, toh phir daleel pesh keren kay Sahabah nay Kabah ko saaf keeya ho, chalen ek hadith pesh ker den jis meh yeh likha ho kay kissi nay Kabah ko saaf keeya, yaqeen keren aap KABAH meh jarooh marnay kee hadith bee pesh nahin ker saken gay ghusul toh door kee baat. Agir is hadith say muraad har masjid, yehn Masjid haram be heh toh phir daleel pesh keren kay kissi Sahabi nay Kabah ko andar say saaf keeya ho, is Biddat ko kabi sabit nahin kr saktay. Meh nay mutalba keeya thah kay puri MASJID DONAY KEE DALEEL, aap nay woh daleel pesh kee jis meh kissi nay MASJID MEH PESHAAB KEEYA TOH RASOOLALLAH NAY PESHAAB PER PAANI DAAL DEEYA: Abh yeh Kabah kay ghusul kee daleel nahin ho sakti, ya aam Masjid ko ghusul denay kee daleel nahin ho sakti, keyun kay is meh shart pahi gahi heh, kay agir kohi Masjid meh chota peshaab ker deh toh us kay upper paani daal doh. Aur jab taq kohi chota peshaab nah keray toh Masjid ka kohi hissa be dona biddat sabit hoga. Aur is kay saath arz heh kay yeh hadith sirf chotay peshaab per paani dalnay kee daleel heh, agir kohi is meh bara'peshaab yehni defecate kerta heh toh phir yeh hadith us kay leyeh daleel nahin ho sakti. Aur saath hee ek aur nuqta arz heh kay agir kohi beduin, yehni registaan meh rehnay wala masjid meh chota peshaab keray masjid meh toh wahan per paani dala jahay, agir kohi sha'hir ka, Madinah ka yehni kissi city ka rehnay wala masjid meh chota peshaab kerta heh toh us kay upper paani dalnay kee yeh hadith daleel nahin ban sakti. Warna esa kerna Biddat hoga. RasoolAllah ka farmaan e mubarak heh, Har biddat gumrahi heh, aur har Biddat jahanum kee aag kee taraf leh ker jaati heh, yeh Kabah ko Ghusul dena Biddat heh, joh Sahabah kay amal say sabit nahin, is leyeh har woh shakhs joh manta heh is ko is per amal kerta heh aur is ka difa kerta heh woh jahanumi heh.
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Brailviat k nazdeek hooli ki mathai khana halal hai.
RadiatingAli replied to MOUWAHID's topic in مناظرہ اور ردِ بدمذہب
Nah Fiqha peri, nah pernay ka waqt heh, jis kay pass heh woh peray aur samjay ... khadim ko bilqul kohi interest nahin kutb e Fiqah pernay ka. Behtr hota agir meri reply pertay, tafseelan is ka jawab likha heh. Magir mukhtasar jawab arz heh kay jis cheese ko Allah tallah nay Halal farma deeya heh, yehni joh khanay kee cheese Halal farmahi heh woh Halal heh. Mathahi ho, holi kee ho, Christmas kee ho, us ko khanay kee cheese samaj ker kha lenay meh kohi harj nahin, HALAL heh. @Mukhtar baee Aap zera rest keren, yeh mamla meray aur is kay darmiyaan rehnay denh. Doh teen ka mil ker behas kernay say mamla ulajta heh sulajta nahin. -
Brailviat k nazdeek hooli ki mathai khana halal hai.
RadiatingAli replied to MOUWAHID's topic in مناظرہ اور ردِ بدمذہب
RasoolAllah ka farmaan thah kay Wahabiyah jahil pagal suhafa hoon gay, achay dalahil say sabit ker rahay hen farmaan e RasoolAllah ko. Jahil kee jahil ulaad, is ko perh, teri batoon ka jawab is meh likha heh: Yeh meh nay phir quote ker deeya heh aur is ko perh aur phir is ka jawab deh, takay teri moti aqal meh baat peray. Mujjay pata heh kay abh toh sirf chavlenh maro gay aur jawab nahn doh gay. Keyun kay is say tumari pent utar jaati heh. -