Abdur Rehman

wo unho nay pahlay he calender mai 2 mint aagay ka time dia howa hai taky ghuroobe aaftab mai confirm ho jaiay aur calculation mai 1 2 mints ki mistake ho tu us ka hal ho jaiy.. wasSlam

Wahabiyo ka yei tareeka hai kay Allah azzawjal nay jo aayatain buto , mushriko , kafiro kay leay nazil kee hai un ko musalmano pay chaspa'n kartay hai aur aadha Quran mantay hai adhay ka inkar kar daitay hain... is link pay Page number 6 aur page 7 parh lain ghour say aur Qurani aayat ka reference us ko day kar us say pochain kay Quran ka inkar aik musalman tu nahe kar sakta tu tum kia howay http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?sho...4927&st=100

kia aap Asmat e Anbiya alaihiSlam kay bhee munkir hai'n? ...Qurane karim ki is ayat mai Li Zanbika kay Kaaf say Murad wo jo Aap kay Khas hain un kay gunaho ki mafi kay leay Astaghfar karain aur phir lil momineena wal mominat farma kay Allah azzawjal nay ta qayamat tamam momineen mominat pay ahsan e azeem farmaya, kay apnay Mahboob ki dua mai hamain bhee shamil farma dia.

Gulzar bhai aap jo apki alaqay ki sab say nazdeeki Ahlesunnat wal jamat ki masjid hai waha say calendar lai lain aur phir us kay mutabiq amal kar lain aur dawat e islami ki website say jo aap nay bataya 3 min peachay hai tu neachay ugar aap check karain calendar kay bilkul neachay 30 30-September Tuesday 5:09 AM 6:38 PM Precaution: Sehar -3 min to Dawn Timings & Iftaar +2 min to Sun Set yani aap ka calendar aur dawat e i slami ki website pay jo calendar hai wo match kar raha hai kyu kay unho nay already mention kia howa hai kay ahtiyat ki waja say sahri ka time -3 mins show kar rahay hai aur aftar ka +2 mins..

your last post have been moved into a new thread here http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showtopic=5205 Keep yourself to the topic please we can always discuss the Position and Status of four Imams in that thread but would you kindly remain on topic plz and firstly, discuss here on the issue of Rafa e Yadain.. please read all the Dalails given in previous posts and then post your reply on those references, so that we can move on . let me tell you that all of our forum members understand Urdu but some of them might not understand English therefore it would be better if you can type in Urdu or roman Urdu so that the other members could also be able to read our posts. wasslamo ala ma it'tabail huda

Asslam o alaikum to all muslims, How ignorant and arrogant is the claim that because four great scholars differ you are coming back to Quran o Hadis? does it not mean you want to say these four great scholars were all wrong and did not know what Quran and Hadis say? to put it simple you are saying that all four great scholars were wrong and out of the way of Allah azzawjaal and Prophet alaihislam? even now the majority of the muslims , the mainstream of ummat e muslima are away from the way of Allah azzawjal and Prophet alaihiSlam? and you are on the right path? this thread is for Rafa yadain if you have any point , references, proofs pls come forward and let us all know as well .. and you can very fondly start a new thread regarding the difference amongst scholars and prove your point there that All 4 Imams were wrong and that their fatwas were against Quran o Ahadis.

yei mai nay pahlay nahe suna wAllaho Aaam wa Rasuluh

subhan Allah Exothermic07 mashaAllah u explained very well bilkul sach hai ya Allah bay shak Mairay Jurm bay Shumar hai jinka hisab shumar hi nahee bas itna pata hai kay mairay sab gunah ya Allah tairi rahmato say kam hain ... ya Allah mairay gunaho ko maaf farma aur sab musalmano kay gunaho ko maaf farma aamin summa amin.

Very Nice Article , thanks for your valuable posts rafique bhai.

mashaAllah aap theak farmata hain mai nay kisi muzakray mai bhee suna tha wo mai dhondho ga mil jaiy tu yaha attach kar du ga inshaAllah .. jazakAllaho khair 1. Sahee 2. Sahee , Fajar kay foran baad parh lain ya Fajar say thora pahlay bhee parh lain wo bhee subha mai shumar hoga inshaAllah 3. Yei bhee Fajar say pahlay ya baad dono parh saktay hai .. mashaAllah aap theak samghay, wasslam

aap kahee Invisible mode mai tu nahee hai ugar invisible mode mai hai tu main window say appear online ho jaiay phir room mai try karain .. also read these posts; http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?sho...&hl=paltalk http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?sho...&hl=paltalk

Great work , in deobandiyo ki bayhdoda batain suntay sunatay bhee sharam mahsoos hoti hai magar in ko jawab daina bhe zarori hai kay in ko aaina nazar aaiy kay in Allah , Nabi pak , Ummahatul Momineen Sahaba o Ahlebait aur Auliyae Ummat rizwanullah alaihim kay gustako ka asal chahra kitna ganda aur ghaleez hai...l Allah hamai aisay saray fitno say bachaiay amin..

Allah hamai aisay jahil nam nahad sufiyo say bachaiay jo darhaqeeqat loago ka iman barbad kartay hain.. Gohar shahi dafa howa tu ab yei aa gaya hai Allah azzawajal kay Rasul , Mukhbar e Sadiq nay sach farmaya jis ka mafhoom kay wo lagatar bayshumar fitno ko barasta daikh rahay hai.. Allah azzawjaal apnay Habibe Pak kay sadqay aisay jahilo , bayhayao , badmazhao ki suhbat say mahfooz rakkhay aur har fitnay say bachaiay Iman salamat rakkhay Ahlesunnat wal jamat say wabasta rakhay aur hamaray bhai bahno aal aulad doast aziz deegar sab musalmano kay haq mai yei dua qabool farmaiay. aamin bi jai'l nabi yal Amin.. YA ALLAH YA RASULALLAH

Bhai subha , doophar , saipahar , sham , shab yei sab istalah ham istamal kartay hain hai magar Asal mai aaik pooray 24 ghantay mai sirf 2 cheazain hai yani Andhairay wala Hissa aur Ujalay Wala hissa Islami lahaz say Sooraj nikalnay say Sooraj Doobnay Tak Din hai. Aur Sooraj Dobnay say Agli Sooraj Nikalnay Tak Raat hai. Bas baki sari jo Istilahat hain yani sham , doopahar , sapahar wo hamari aasani kay leay hain. is leay jaha bhee aap koi wazaif waghaira daikhain tu din aur raat say wohi murad hai jo ooper guzr albatta ugar baaz wazaif mai subha ya sham likha howa hai tu us say Din ka shroo wala hissa aur aakhri hissa murad lain gai. Din kay aaghaz mai mai jo thanda waqt hota hai us ko Subha aur darmiyani hissa mai jab Sooraj bilkul apni garmi pay hota hai usay doopahar kahtay hai aur phir aahista aahista jab dhoop kam honay lagay wo waqt Sai pahar ka kahlata hai aur sooraj guroob honay say pahlay jo sooraj thanda hota hai wo Sham aur Phir Shab Yani Subha, Doophar, Saiphar aur Sham yei Sab asal mai Din ka Hissa hai Aur Shab aur Raat aik he hai. Islami lahaz say Raat pahlay aati hai aur Din baad mai aur Isa'ee , Ungraizi ya aaj kal jo dunyawi tarteeb hai us kay lahaz say din pahlay aur raat baad mai... isi leay angraizi zuban aur tarteeb mai Jummay ki raat wo ho gee jo Jummay aur Haftay kay darmiyan wali raat hai jab kay Islami lahaz say Jummay ki raat Jumma'rat aur Jummay ki Darmiyani Shab ko kahtay hain ... isi tarah islami maheenay bhe raat say shroo hotay hai isi leay Ramzan ki pahli raat pahlay aati hai aur pahla din baad mai.. Wallaho wa Rasuluho Aalam

Asslam alaikum mai nay aaj yei post daikhi Hazrat mai aaik aam sa insan ho bas yei hai kay bachpan say meelad sharif ki mahfilo mai jata raha ho Alhamdulillah pakistan mai tha tu Rabiulawwal sharif kay 30 kay 30 din isha kay baad mahafil e meelad mai jata tha aur ulama-e kiram ki batain sun kar aur un ki kitabain parh kar jo pata laga wo bata daita ho Allah koi kami baishi maaf farmaaiy aamin. gustakhane Rasul alaihiSlam isi leay meelad sharif kay buhat khilaf hai kay is ki waja say loago ko deen kay baray mai pata lag jata hia jo shaitan kay khilaf hai.. aap say bhee yei darkhwast hai kay khaub khaub meelad sharif ki mahfilo mai jaya karain ulamae kiram kay bayanat ko sunain aur deeni dunyawi barkatai'n hasil karain. Pakistan , india , bangladesh nahee poori dunya mai sab say ziada Musalman Imame Azam Abu Hanifa ki fiqh pay amal kartay hai. aur Hazoor Ghous ul Azam sheikh Abdul Qadir Jeelani ki Mureedi mai hain .. Mureedi Hazoor Ghos pak ki is leay kay aap sab say baray wali hain aur Allah azzawajal nay aap kay roohani silsila Qadriya ko sari dunya mai faiz ka zariya banaya... Allah azzawjaal kay saray Auliya kiram Ghose Azam kay zair e qadam hai'n. Aaap ki mureedi karna Yani Allah azzawajal ki wilayat kay rastay pay Hazoor Ghosul Azam ko apna rasta dikhanay wala aur rahbar banana takay aap ki tarbiyat aap ki nazare karam say insan kay undar roohanyat paida ho.... isay Tareeqat kahtay hain. ab Namaz kaisay parhain ,Roza kaisay rakhain aur isi tarah roazana paish anay walay mukhtalif umoor Shariyat e Islami kay mutabiq bahtareen taur par kaisay anjam dain . Jo loag Hanafi hai wo Imam e Azam Abu Hanifa nay jo fatway de'ay aur jo usool aur tareekay bataiay us kay mutabiq kartay hai'n.. kyu kay Aap ka zamana Nabi pak AlaihiSlam say sab say nazdeeki hai is leay aap nay buhat say Sahaba say mulaqat kari aur un say yei Tareekay seekhay. aur phir deegar musalmano ko aagay pohnchaiy.... Allah azzawjal nay Hanafi Qadiriyo par kitna fazal farmaya kay fiqh ho ya wilayat dono mai sab say baray Imam naseeb farmaiay

You do not need to assume regarding The practices of Prophet and you do not need to wait for the day of judgement Allah azzawajal already made it quite clear with numerous authentic Ahadis which you simply ignore and then by the continous practice of Majority of Muslims since the time of Prophet , which you oppose and follow a way other then of Mainstream Muslim Majority ie 'Sawad e Azam' You observed that you became a very big scholar and now you can understand Quran and Hadis better then Imam Abu Hanfia , Imam Shafai , Imam Malik and Imam Ahmed Bin Hambal and hundreds of thousands of scholars from Salf and Khalf who followed them ; then please come forward and prove your point with Quran and Hadis. Note: Please Read the complete thread from start before carrying on with your arguments. as Allah azzawjaal already provided you with guidance ,and ordered to follow the muslims of knowledge yet if you close your eyes then its your flaw and your point (ii) is invalid untill you prove point number (i) i-e Rafa Ya'dain is a Continuous practice of Prophet and that He ordered to do so. Howeve,r let me tell you a simple rule- to understand Quran and Hadis and to derive Ma'sail from them is not an easy task as you are thinking.This is the job of those who dedicated all their life acquiring Ilam e Deen and also Allah rewarded them with the Ilam al Marifa required to understand the Quran and Hadis.Such great scholars who became an authority, with their God given wisdom and knowledge derived solutions and ordinary Muslims are only required to follow such men of knowledge as Quran says and you also quoted: 'O you who believe! Obey Allâh and obey the Messenger (Muhammad SAW), and those of you (Muslims) who are in authority. (And) if you differ in anything amongst yourselves, refer it to Allâh and His Messenger if you believe in Allâh and in the Last Day. That is better and more suitable for final determination.' Who are those muslims in Authority? before you say they are only Rulers let's see from Tafsir Ibne Abbas raziAllah anho Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs: { يَا أَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ أَطِيعُواْ ٱللَّهَ وَأَطِيعُواْ ٱلرَّسُولَ وَأُوْلِي ٱلأَمْرِ مِنْكُمْ فَإِن تَنَازَعْتُمْ فِي شَيْءٍ فَرُدُّوهُ إِلَى ٱللَّهِ وَٱلرَّسُولِ إِن كُنْتُمْ تُؤْمِنُونَ بِٱللَّهِ وَٱلْيَوْمِ ٱلآخِرِ ذٰلِكَ خَيْرٌ وَأَحْسَنُ تَأْوِيلاً } (O ye who believe!) 'Uthman Ibn Talhah and his fellow believers. (Obey Allah) in that which He has commanded you, (and obey the messenger) in that which he commands you (and those of you who are in authority) the leaders of military expeditions; it also said that this means: the men of sacred knowledge; (and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to Allah) to the Book of Allah (and the messenger) and to the practice of the Messenger (if you are (in truth) believers in Allah and the Last Day) resurrection after death. (That) referring the matter to the Book of Allah and the practice of His Messenger (is better and more seemly in the end). And Allah azzawajal says in Quran :Al Anbiya verse 7 وَمَا أَرْسَلْنَا قَبْلَكَ إِلاَّ رِجَالاً نُّوحِي إِلَيْهِمْ فَاسْأَلُواْ أَهْلَ الذِّكْرِ إِن كُنتُمْ لاَ تَعْلَمُونَ And We sent not before you but men whom We revealed then O people! Ask the men of knowledge if you have no knowledge and Allah azzawajal teaches us to follow the way of those who are favoured by Allah azzawajal Al Fatiha verse 6 and 7 اهدِنَا الصِّرَاطَ المُستَقِيمَ صِرَاطَ الَّذِينَ أَنعَمتَ عَلَيهِمْ غَيرِ المَغضُوبِ عَلَيهِمْ وَلاَ الضَّالِّينَ Guide us in the straight path.The path of those whom You have favoured. Not of those who have earned Your anger and nor of those who have gone astray. And Allah says in Al Furqan verse 74 proves that there are Imams for those who are Muttaqoon وَالَّذِينَ يَقُولُونَ رَبَّنَا هَبْ لَنَا مِنْ أَزْوَاجِنَا وَذُرِّيَّاتِنَا قُرَّةَ أَعْيُنٍ وَاجْعَلْنَا لِلْمُتَّقِينَ إِمَامًا And those who submit, 'O Our Lord', grant us from our lives and offspring the coolness of eyes and make us the leader of those who guard themselves against evil. The Prophet said Narrated In Mishkat Kitab al Ammara: When you are united under one person, someone comes to you and He wants to break your truncheon and divide you, then Kill him and also in Mishkat Kitabul Ammara : If someone dies without having the pledge (BAIT) of anyone on his neck then he died the death of Jahiliya. and in Mishkat kitab al Jahad: If three are in journey then they should take one of them as their Leader. Quran says in Al Baqara verse 286 لاَ يُكَلِّفُ اللّهُ نَفْسًا إِلاَّ وُسْعَهَا Allah places not burden on any soul but to the extent of his strength ..... A Sunni would answer: ''Oh Allah azzawajal I read all those clear verses in Quran and Ahadis and when I saw various people with various claims and everybody inviting towards a different way I decided, with my little knowledge and by the help of clear verses of Quran and Ahadis that I should follow the majority of Muslims and when i found out that people who are born only some centuries ago , are challenging the way of those who have been around since the first century I understood by Your blessings that those who are very close to the Prophet's time would definitely be more pious and more knowledgeable and more aware of Prophet's practices then those who are born in those days near the end of times when knowledge was being lifted. so my Allah azzawajal with Your blessings I followed the mainstream and continous way of Muslims proven from the 1st century of Islam and rejected the way of newly born Bid'atis.'' Aamin should not be said loudly , if you have any objection then please discuss in relevant thread http://www.islamimehfil.info/index.php?showtopic=3451 The Prophet said which means that best of era is Prophet's era and then Companions and then so on.. The most it gets distant from the time of Prophet the least blessed it is (in every means piety , knowledge , blessings) * Imam AbuHanifa was Born in 70 (some say 77 or 80) Hijri and Passed away in 150 Hijri. I wonder where did you learn that he came 200 years after Prophet alaihislam Imam Azam Abu hanifa was a Taba'ii His Grandfather was in the company of Hazrat Ali . and Imam Abu Hanifa himself, lived in the era of many Sahaba rizwanullah alaihim ajmaeen and his meeting with some Sahaba rizwanullahalaihim is unanimously confirmed, including Hazrat Anas bin Malik ,Abdullah ibne AbiAuna, Sahal Ibne Sad Sa'adi and AbuTufail Amir bin Saasla rizwanullah alaihim ajmaeen he received Ahadis from seven Sahaba kiram rizwanullah ajmaeen. your claim is that one of the most brilliant scholar of all times who lived and learnt from Sahaba rizwanullah ajmaeen (who learnt from Prophet alaihiSlam ) did not know how to pray and did not know sahih ahadis and after 1400 years , by only reading books written by present day wahabis you came to know all the sahih ahadis then this claim is very ignorant and sorry to say Stupid and i write in caps NONSENSE. ________________________________________________________________________________ _________________________________ Surah Al isra Verse 71: يَوْمَ نَدْعُو كُلَّ أُنَاسٍ بِإِمَامِهِمْ فَمَنْ أُوتِيَ كِتَابَهُ بِيَمِينِهِ فَأُوْلَئِكَ يَقْرَؤُونَ كِتَابَهُمْ وَلاَ يُظْلَمُونَ فَتِيلاً The day when We shall call every people. With their leaders, then whosoever is given his record in his right hand, they shall read their records and their rights" shall not be suppressed a single thread. Alhamdulillah all sunnis with their Imams following the Sahaba rizwanullah alaihim ajmaeen Rasulullah alaihiSlam will be marching towards heaven and those who made a different way and created f'itna aongst muslims would be answering about their home made religion. as Quran Says : Al nisa verse 115 وَمَن يُشَاقِقِ الرَّسُولَ مِن بَعْدِ مَا تَبَيَّنَ لَهُ الْهُدَى وَيَتَّبِعْ غَيْرَ سَبِيلِ الْمُؤْمِنِينَ نُوَلِّهِ مَا تَوَلَّى وَنُصْلِهِ جَهَنَّمَ وَسَاءتْ مَصِيرًا And whoso opposes the Messenger after the right way has become clear and follows a way other than the way of Muslims, We shall leave him on his own conditions and shall cause him to enter Hell; and what is an evil place of returning. 1/10th second vision of hell would surely be making all such people wish that they were able to run away at olympic speed but by then it would be very late. you registerd and posted thank you for that and I hope you would carry on with your Dala'il on the topic of this thread i-e Rafa' Yadain as a continous practise of Prophet Wasslamo Ala man ittaba'il huda.

Bad'bu ya Khousbo say roaza nahee toat'ta hai. albatta kis petrol ya deegar gases, chemicals waghaira ka dhuwa'n ya fumes hain aur jan boojh kay songha tu roaza toat jaiay ga.

Zuhar kay baad saya yani shadow aahista aahista barhna shroo ho jata hai..... Fiqah e Hanfi kay Mutabiq Asar ka waqat jab shroo hota hai jab kisi cheaz ka saya yani Shadow us kay asal say mazeed , twice yani dugna (2 masl) ho jaiay ----- yani Shadow 2 kuch hazrat kay nazdeek Asar ka waqt us time shroo hota hai jab kisi cheaz ka saya apnay Asal say mazeed, 1 time ( 1 Masl) ho jaiay yani Shadow1. Mairi naqis raiy mai calendar pay shadow1 , shadow2 is waja say likha hota hoga. Ham Hanafi hai is leay Shadow 2 ko follow karain bahtar hoga kay kisi Hanafi Ahlesunnat ki masjid say time table lai lain aur us kay mutabik Asar aur deegar namazain ada kar lain. Allah azzawajal koi ghalati maaf farmaiay aamin wasSlam alaikum

Janab aap kisi Ahlesunnat ki masjid say poora time table lai kay ghar mai laga lain aur time table kay hisab say sahri aur aftari karain. yei pages ghour say parh lain..

Farz Namazoo Kay Au'qat

jazakAllah

JazakAllah Hazrat Allama Syedi Muzaffar hussain shah ki mazeed speeches kaha say mil sakti hai?

Ajwa with aain? it is a kind of date from Madina tul Munawwara Prophet AlaihiSlam suggested its use to a sahabi raziAllahanho (for heart disease) i hope i got it right

Asslam alaikum lafz e doast ka koi ghalat mana urdu zuban mai nahe, aur mairi maloomat ki had tak kisi aur zuban mai bhee is ka koi mana ghalat nahee nikalta aur jo doast ka lafz ooper mazmoon mai guzra wo ahadis kay hawalay say hai maslan sunan ibne maja waghaira aur ooper aur bhe buhat say hawalay almukhtasar mai nahe samghta kay is lafz ko istama'l karna namunasib ha.. wAllaho alam wa Rauluh