
Ya Mohammadah
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abhi hum kya karty hain kya nahin karty is behas se qata nazar, tum wahabi quran ki is surat ki ayat Bani Israil 17:57 ko phir ghor se parho or humy ye jawab do ki ismy Waseely ki tarweed ki gayi hai ya ibadat ki..jo mushrik thy unko to khud bataya ja raha hai ki jinki tum ibadat karty ho wo to khud wseely ki talash me rehty hain (agar waseela shirk hota to Allah ke bandy kyu is (shirk?) me mulawwiz hoty or na hi inka waseela ki talash me rehna quran me naqal kiya jata bina tarweed ke? uljha hai pao yaar ka zulf e daraz mein lo aaj apny daam me khud syyad aa gaya
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Malfoozat main kufriya Qisa......
Ya Mohammadah replied to MOUWAHID's topic in مناظرہ اور ردِ بدمذہب
is Wahabi Haqeeqat ko isi Dua or ibadat ke masly par humny sawal kiya tha jiska jawab aaj tak kisi kharji se na bana or ye dekho ek dusry ki peeth thaph-thapana ...agar aapko apny bary me kuch khush fehmi hoto jawab juta layein...Kya Har Dua Ibadat hai -
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kya humara jawab itna dandan e shikan tha ki dato ke saath aql bhi khatti ho gayi..? kis nashy me uljulllol bakty ja rahy hain? Sahi hai Jab wahabiyat ka mehal girta hai to ahle khana to badhawas hongy hi...humsy kya baeed hai kya nahin wo to aapny is forum par apni halat karwai hai andaza ho chuka hoga apko !! or is tarah ke bad gumano se bachny ki waqeed na dikhi wahabi ko...? Allah toufique de. abhi zara wehshat se bahar aa gaye hon to chaly apny mozu ki taraf? Wahabi Abdul salam Sahab aap kya badhawasi me likh gaye hain apko kuch shaoor bhi hai? aap ny abhi kuch 2-3 dino pehly hi bari himmat juta kar mere sawal me pooochy gaye shakhs ke bary me reply kiya tha ki wo Mushrik ho jayega...or ab jo apny upar aitraaz likha (be iznillah ke aqeedy ke radd mein mushrik bhi aisy hi thy) in dono situations zameen asman ka farq tha...mere sawal me Allah ki ata or izn na thi or banda mushrik hua..jabki Mushrikeen e makka be iznillah ka aqeedah rakh kar bhi mushrik huey. (wajah yahan se parhy 1,2 ) aapny asal mozu yani apki batil laghw zinda murda door qareeb Mafouqul Matehtul Asbab ko chera bhi nahin. cherty bhi kese? abhi upar hi in qaido ko jooty taly rondty huey seena phula kar kaha tha mushrik ho jayega boliye kya bolna hai wahabis ki ye kesi bhondi khud sakta taqseem hai or ye kesi batil qaidein hain jinko lagany ke baad bhi banda Mushrik ho jata hai? Jabki ye kehty thy ki is taqseem ke tehat mangny wala mushrik nahin momin hi rehta hai? jabki khud tumny usy mushrik qaraar diya? tum nas or qayas or istedlaal ki behas kar rahy thy...Janab e Wahabi jab me is taqseem par nas mangunga to konsi baghal jhakogy? Kuch to dayant dari seekh lo wahabi?
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wahabis ne bari der lagayi is choty se sawal ke Jawab mein..wese baat baat par shirk-shirk ka wazifa parhny waly wahabis is choty se sawal ka jawab dene me pasho paish me rahy..khair kam z kam ek wahabi sahab ne to himmat ki warna wahabi haqeeqat to sawal ke gol gol chakkar hi lagata raha or dekhna shayad isky baad bhi agata rahy.. na hum kisi wahabi ka qowl bayan karny waly thy na hi koi kissa (Ghaliban aap advance me hi seham kar humsy,sanad,hawala,waqya ki mang kar dali) ye to ek asan sa tharma-meter tha wahabis ki zuban par charhy shirk nami bukhar ko chk karny ka jis lagaty hi sari laghw fizul qaidein (jinsy wahabi apni tondo ka dhanda chala rahy hain) dafa hoti gayin or akhir kar usi par akar towheed ne fatwa diya or mar kar tumhy qubool karna hi parha ki humari sari qaid ko manny ke bawajood (Zinda (Murdy se to shirk hota hai na) Qareeb ke (Door se sunna to shirk hota hai na) Asbaab ke tehat (Mafoqul asbab madad mangna to shirk hota hai na)) bina Allah ke izn or ata se madad ka aqeeda rakhny wala Mushrik ho Jayega !!! akhir wahi qaid kaam aayi na wahabi abdulsalam jo Hum Ahle Sunnat sekro salo se batil ko samjhaty aa rahy hain yani Zaati or Atayi/ Mutasarrif bizzaat ki...par Kharjiyat ka kya ilaaj? to zinda Murda Door Qareeb Mafouqul Matehtul asbaab ki fizul qaido se musalmano ko bewaqoof banana chor kar touba karo. isi me afiyat hai. hasil kalam ye ki chahy banda zinda ho ya murda deta Allah hi hai, is liye bad as wisal Allah ke Muqarrib bando se sawal Jayaz hai Shirk nahin. hasil kalam ye ki chahy banda door ho ya qareeb sunwata Allah hi hai, is liye Allah ke Muqarrib bando se door se madad mangna jayaz hai Shirk nahin. hasil kalam ye ki chahy madad asbab ke tehat ho ya bina asbaab ke Fail e Haqeeqi Allah hi hai is liye Allah ke Muqarrib bando se Mafoqul madad mangna jayaz hai Shirk nahin. baqi raha aapka sawal to usy bhi discuss kar lete hain pehly zara is masly ko sulja saky?
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GG Janab me paish to kar raha hu par mujhy maloom hai isky baad kya hal aapka hona hai...ki jis Jamat "Ahle Sunnat" ki nijatyafta hony ke liye aap saboot mang rahy thy inko parhny ke baad aap ye sawal dagengy ki hum (wahabi/gm/deobandi) hi kyu nahin wo Jamat? (1) Hazrat Abdullah Bin Umer (Radi Allahu Anhuma) Kehtay hain key Rasool Allah ney fermaya:"Bani Israil 72 Firqoun per mutafariq ho gaye aur meri umat 73 firqoun per mutafariq hogi. Siwaye 1 firqa key sab key sab Aag mein Dakhil hongey"Sahab-e-Karam (Alehim Ridwan) ney Arz ki "Ya Rasool Allah woh firqa konsa hai" Aap ney fermaya: "Jis Per Main Hoon aur Meray Sahaba Hain" (Jamiya Tarimzi, Jild 2, Page231) Aub Iss hadees mein kitney khulay alfaz mein 1 firqey key Haq honey ka kaha gaya hai.. aur aap her kisi ko theek keh ker Sulah-e-Kul ker rahay hain.. hadees per tu amal kejiye aur 1 key sath rahiye.. (2) Riwayat Hai Key Hazrat Sayiduna Ameer Muaviya Bin Abu Sufiyan (Radi Allahu Anhuma) ney Kharey hoker fermaya key Rasool Allah Hamarey Darmayan Kharey Howay aur Fermaya:"Khabardar Ho Jaoo Key Tum Sey Pehlay Ahle Kitab 72 Firqoun Mein Bat Gaye They aur An-Qareeb Yeh Umat 73 Firqoun Mein Bat Jaye Gi. 72 Firqey Jahanam Mein Jayein Gey aur 1 Firqa Jannat Mein Jaye Ga aur Woh Jamaat Hai"Ibn-e-Yahya aur Amar ney Apni Hadeesoun Mein Yeh Bhi Kaha:"An-Qareeb Meri Umat Mein Aisay Log Niklein Gey Key Gumhrahi Un Mein Yon Sirayat Ker Jaye Gi Jaisay Pagal Kutey Key Katey Howay Jism Mein Zehr Sirayat Ker Jata Hai" (Sunan Abu Dawood Sharef. Jild 3, Page 428) Dekha Siwaye 1 key Sab Qat'ee Jahanami hain.. Tafseer-e-Noor-ul-Irfan Shareef mein Hakeem Ul Umat Mufti Ahmad Yar Khan Naeemi (Aleh Rahma) fermatey hain "72 Jahanami Firqey Sirf Qoumi Shanakht Key Lihaz sey Muslim kehlayein gey.. Jab Key Hongey BAD MAZHAB QAT'E AZAB-E-NAR KEY HAQDAR" (3) Hazrat Ans fermatey hain key Rasool-e-Kareem ney fermaya: "Bani Israil 71 firqoun mein bat gaye aur meri umat 72 firqoun mein bat jaye gi, Sab Jahanam mein jayein gey Siwaye 1 key aur Woh Jamaat Sey Wabasta rehney waley hain" (Sunan Ibn-e-Majah, Jild 2, Page 487) Yahaan kul 72 kahey gaye hain.. aisay kuch mazed riwayat bhi hain. jin mein kul 72 kaha gaya hai.. mager zayada ter 73 per hi itifaq hai.. (4) Hazrat Abu Zar sey Riwayat Hai Key Rasool ney fermaya:"Jo Shakhs Jamaat Sey Aik Balisht Bhi Dour Howa Uss Ney Islam Ki Rasi Apni Gardan Sey Nikaal Di" ("Masnad Imam Ahmad, Jild 5, Page 180" , "Mishqaat Shareef Jild 1, Page 40", Mustadrak Shareef, Jild 1, Page 117") Yeh Hadees Buhut Hi Qabil-e-Tawajo Hai.. 3 motaber hawaloun sey naqal ki gayi hai.. Khudara Apney Galey Sey Eman Ki Rasi Ko Na Nikalye aur Aik Haq Jamaat Ahle Sunnat key Daman sey Wabasta ho jaye aur Haq ko Haq aur Batil ko Batil Kahiye.. (5) Hazrat Abdullah Bin Umer Farooq (radi Allahu Anhuma) kehtay hain key Rasool Allah ney fermaya:"Allah meri umat ko qayamat tak gumrahi per jama na fermaye ga aur bari jamaat ki itibaa kero... jo bari jamaat sey alehda howa woh aag mein daala gaya"Imam Hakim ney iss mazmoon ko teesri sanad key sath Umer bin Deenar An Ibn-e-Umer An Rasool-e-Kareem Tareeq sey bhi naqal kiya.. (Mustadrak Al-Haakim, Jild 1, Page 116) Pas Sulah-e-Kul wala tu saaf aik alehda firqa hi howa.. key Sarkar khud 1 jamaat ki itiba ka hukm ferma rahay hain.. aur Sulah-e-Kul wala firqa 1 ko chor ker tamam ko sahi keh raha hai.. (6) Rasool Ullah ney fermaya:"Bani Israil Key Log 71 Firqoun Mein Taqseem Ho Gaye They aur Meri Umat Key Log 72 Firqoun mein Taqseem Hongey. Jin Mein 71 Firqey Jahanam Raseed Hongey aur 1 firqa Janat mein Dakhil Hoga"Sahaba-e-Karam (Alehim Ridwan) ney Arz Kiya: "Ya Rasool Allah wa Woh Aik Nijat Yafta Firqa Konsa Hai?"Fermaya: "Woh Ahle Sunnat Wa Jamaat Hongey" (Tanbeeh-ul-Ghafeleen baAahadees Syid-ul-Anbiya-e-Wal Murasaleen, Page 301) Lejiye Yeh Hawala Aagaya Hadees sey key Barhaq Jamaaat Ahle Sunnat hi Hai.. aik aur hawala lejiye.. (7) Nabi-e-Kareem ney fermaya:"Meri Umat Mein 73 firqey hongey aur Nijat paney wala 1 giroh hoga baqi sab (jahanam mein) Halak ho jayein gey"Sahaba-e-Karaam (Alehim Ridwan) ney arz kiya "Nijat Paney Wala Konsa Giroh Hoga?"Irshad fermaya: "Ahle Sunnat Wa Jamaat"Arz Kiya: "Ahle Sunant wa Jamaat ka Kiya matlab"Fermaya: "Woh Tareeqa Jis Per Iss Waqt Main Hoon aur Meray Sahaba Hain"(Al-Malal Wal Nahal, Shehr Sataani, Jild 1, Page 21) kitney hawaley doun? waisay Man'ney waley key liye tu 1 bhi buhut hai.. (1) Hazrat Sayiduna Qutb-e-Rabani, Mahboob-e-Subhani Sheikh Abdul Qadir-e-Jilani fermatey hain. "Iss Terha Nabi-e-Kareem ki Hadees-e-Mubarka Key Mutabiq Kul Firqey 73 hain aur Nijat Paney Wala Firqa AHLE SUNNAT WA JAMAAT hai.. (Ghuniyat-ul-Talibeen, Page 200, Jild 1, Matbooa Nafees Acadamey Karachi) (2) Hazrat Sayiunda Ahmad Kabeer Rafayi (Aleh Rahma) Key Jansaheen Hazrat Syid Muhammad Abul Huda Aafandi (Aleh Rahma) 73 firqoun ki tafseel mein fermatey hain."73wan Firqa Nijat Yafta Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat Ka Hai.. Jo Afzal Tareqay Per Qaim Hai.." Al-Haqeqat-ul-Bahira Fi Asrar-ul-Shariya, Page 27) (3) Hazrat Ghous-ul-Zamaan Sayidna Abdul Aziz Dabagh (Aleh Rahma) fermatey hain.."Kisi Banda Ko Fatah (Kashf Sadar) Tab Hi Naseeb Hoti Hai Key Woh Ahle Sunnat Jamaat Key Tareqay per Hoo. aur Allah Ka Koi Wali Bhi (Ahle Sunnat Jamaat key ilawah) Kisi Dosrey Aqeday Ka Nhin Howa" Allama Ahmad Bin Mubarak (Aleh Rahma) naqal fermatey hain.. "Main Ney Hazrat Syidi Abdul Aziz Dabagh (Aleh Rahma) sey Hamesha Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamat kI tareef suni. fermatey they key "Mujhay Ahle Sunnat sey Buhut Zayada Muhabbat Hai aur Allah sey Dua Mangta Hoon Key Issi (Ahle Sunnat) key aqeeday per mera khatima hoo" (Al-Abraiz Shareef, Jild 1 Page 82) (4) Hazrat Imam-e-Rabani Mujadid Alfe Saani Sheikh Ahmad Sir Hindi fermatey hain. "Aqwal-o-Afaal aur Asool-o-Firoo mein Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat ki perwi kerna hi Rah-e-Nijat hai. Kiyon Key Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamaat hi Janati Firqa Hai aur Iss Key Ilawah Jitney Bhi Firqey hain Sab Zawal Pazeer aur Halakat Key Kinarey per Hain. aaj koi iss bat ko janey ya na janey mager kal qayamat ko her koi jan ley ga. per uss waqt jan'na kuch nafa na dey ga. (Maktobat-e-Imam Rabani, Jild 1, Page 86)
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Wahabi Haqeeqat tumhari post delete nahin ki gayi unapproved ki gayi hai...bcz tum humary sawaal se bhag kar phir wahi sab kharjiyat wali ada bikhair rahy thy jiska mushaihda kai martaba hum kar chuky hain...or mene tumhari post parhi hai tumny sab kuch likha par mere sawal dene se tumko na jany kyu parhez hai? agar tum sachchy ho to mere sawal ka jawab 2 lines me kyu nahin likh dete, kisny tumhy sachchai zahir karny se roka hai..? par hum janty hain ki wahabi Haqeeqat sab kuch likhega par Jawab nahin phir sawal paish hai last time ab agar jawab ke siwa tumhara orto ki tarah rona dhona kosna aaya to bila karhiyat delete hoga.. aapny jawab ye dena hai ki :- Banda Momin Rahega ya Banda Mushrik ho jayega
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Tariq Jameel ka defend karty waqt shakhsiyat parasti or gumrahi ki ye shuraat aapko yaad na rahi ? Taqiya baaz Deobandi, Jhoot bolna tum logo ka turra e imtiyaaz hai Hum to sada Muslim hain...ye sada Muslim kehalwany ka saboot Quran or Hadees se Paish karein Mr. alphakashif..Inki naqis samajh me jo sahi lagta hai wo sahi hai jo ghalat lagta hai wo ghalat..Apko shayad ye bhi maloom nahin ki sada Muslim jaisi koi shey Islam me nahin..aap apny aapko kisi Firqy me nahin ginwaty par Apko Maloom nahin ki aap Jaiso ka majuma Sulah e Kulli kehlaya jata hai jo apny aap me Biddati firqa hai...Nijat pany wala sirf ek firqa or wo hai Ahle Sunnat wala jamat to is firqy me ginwaye jany ki jadojehad karein na ki sada Muslim..apko Ahle Sunnat wal Jamat naam pasand nahin Jo humary aaqa o moula Janab e Mustafa Mohammad Rasool Allah ne diya...? Hairat hai !!! Poori book parhny chahy to ye topic Mojood hain.. Hum Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamat hain !! Ahle Quran ya Ahle Hadith kyu nahin? Ahle Haq ki Pehchan Ahle Haq kon ?? Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamat !!, Sayed Irfan Shah Shahab Hum Hain Ahle-Sunnat Wal Jamaat- Sayed Irfan Shah Sahab, Sulah e kulli ka Radd Aqaid E Ahle Sunnat wal Jamat, Sayed Abdul Qadir Jilani Sahab
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Ahle Haq kon ?? Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamat !!
Ya Mohammadah replied to Ya Mohammadah's topic in تقاریر اور تبلیغ
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Ahle Haq kon ?? Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamat !!
Ya Mohammadah replied to Ya Mohammadah's topic in تقاریر اور تبلیغ
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to phir to the point hi jawab mang raha hu aap is se door kyu bhag rahy hain Wahabi Haqeeqat or ghuma phira kar kaan kyu pakarna chahty hain seedhy seedhy hi kaan pakar lein aapko jawab ye dena hai ki..... bus ek line likh dein na? ismy masla hi kya hai..., aap nahin many or to the point baat na karty huey apni sabikqa (unapproved post) me ye likha kya aap isy sirf na jayaz or gunah se tabeer karengy....kya ab shirk aapki nazar me itna chota ban gaya hai? Kya is sy aapki murad ye hai ki banda mushrik ho jayega? raha sawaal aapki post (unaaproved ka post-martem) ka to usky liye aap itminaan rakhy humy na ghussa aya hai na kuch or haan aapko zaroor kuch ho gaya hai ki matloob choty se jawab se bachcho ki tarah bagh rahy hain jaisy koi bachcha Doctor Sahab ki sui se.. aap nahin many or apny mafoqul asbaab par behas shuru kar di or neki or bhalai par madad karny par dalail dene shuru kar diye ? hasil kya hua? Unfortunately mujhy apki post unapprove karin parhi for the time being...or masla koi aisa to bara hai nahin ....hum bhi to sawal aapko (accepted & approve qaid(limits) by GMs) qaid laga kar hi pooch rahy hain kya koi qaid humny ismy aisy lagai jisy wahabi muttafiq na ho? hum wahi to pooch rahy hain :- ki zinda (murda nahin) Qareeb ke Admi (Door ke nahin) se Asbaab ke tehat (Mafouqul Asbaab nahin) is Aqeedy (ki ye zinda qareeb ka admi bina Allah ke izn or ata se madad karta hai) ke saath Madad mangny wala banda apki Towheed ki ru se Islam me rahyga ya Shirk ka murtakib ho kar Islam se kharij ho jayega...? or kitna asaan karein hum sawaal ko apki Moti Aql ke hisab se? par na jany kyu aapko ye swaal itna mushkil kyu lag raha hai ki aap sab kuch likhny ko tyyar hai par iska jawab 2 lines me dene se katra rahy hain? baba fareed ke Mazar ke darwazy par kya likha hai kya nahin kya is sy aap wahabiyat ko haq par sabit kar payengy? kya ye thread darwazo ki tehreer par chal raha hai? or phir pehly aap is point ko to clear kar dein mazeed darwazo ki tehreer par bhi guftgu ho jayegi is se kon ghbarata hai wahabi haqeeqat? kahin aisa to nahin ki isky pasy parda aap apni bebasi or khayant chupana chaty hain...aapsy kaha tha tafseer ibn kaseer or bukhari etc. ke urdu tarjumy par apna hashiya (or cut copy paste underline color work) baad me charhiyega abhi to aap sirf is matloob sawaal ka jawab dein jis se dono ka waqt barbaad na ho...or parhny walo ko bhi samjahny me asaani na ki panny kaaly karny ki khana-poorti...
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Wahabi Janab Shirk or Mafouqul asbaab ki behas karty-karty ye Hidayat dene ke ikhteyaar par utar aye or wo bhonda or baasi aitraaz kar bethy jis ka Mudallal jawab mahino pehly isi forum par Khalil rana sahab ne diya tha aapk Jaiso ki Sahuliyat ke liye ye do topics Mojood hain... wasilah hidayat Shafa'at-e-Rasool ﺼﻟﻰﷲﻋﻟﻴﻪ ﻮﺴﻟﻣ Khalat Mabhas or Mozu badalny ki Koshish na karein or Ikhteyaar e nabwi par agar aapko Apna Bughz e Rasool nikalna hai to ek alehda topic bana lein phir dekhaty hain hum humary Aqa e Do Jahan ka ikhteyaar Aisy Sir ke Baal nochny se to Wahabi Najadi ki Jaan hum nahi chorny waly uljha hai pao yaar ka zulf e daraz mein lo apny daam mein khud sayyad aa gaya.. Ghaliban ya to tum Waqai mere sawaal ko samajh na saky ya phir Jaan bhooj kar us Simple se sawaal ko gol kar gaye tumhari sahuliyat ke liye sawaal ek baar phir pasih karta hu ummed hai is baar nazar andaaz nahin karogy... "Jabki hum kehty hain ki shirk or towheed me asal farq fail e haqeeqi ki shart hai zaati or atayi ka fark hai..ibadat or beiznillah isteaanat ka fark hai...me aapsy aapki dimaghi hasiyat ke hisab se bara hi asan sawaal pooch kar is mamly ko yahi khatm karta hu bus mere asaan sa sawaal ka jawab de kar humari or apni tashaffi farmayie...or aap se na ho saky to apny bary guru ghantaal Wahabi GM Ahle ...ha..ees se pooch aayie..koi Masla nahin... 1. Adami zinda ho....(Jis sy Madad Mangi ja rahi hai) 2. Aadmi Qareeb bhi ho... (Jis sy Madad Mangi ja rahi hai) 3. Aadmi ke paas asbaab bhi hon.. (Jis sy Madad Mangi ja rahi hai) ab agar me aapsy kahu ki isi mazkoor qareeb ke zinda Aadmi jo asbaab bhi rakhta hai, is se koi ye aqeedah rakh kar Madad mangy ki ye apni zaat se khud bina Allah ke izn se meri madad kar sakta hai tokya Madad Mangny wala Momin rahega ya Mushrik ho jayega.? bus is choty se sawaal ka jawab la dein... aapki sari ki sari shirk ki kharishein...khud ba khud dafa ho jayengi.. .ki asal qaid kya hai or aapne kya laga rakhi hain...or kon apni sharait ka paband rehta hai or kon isy hatheli par jalty angary ki tarah chor deta hai ? or kis ki sharait towheed or shirk ki sahi taqseem karti hain... ab ye behas aagy tabhi baregi jab aap mere is sawaal ka jawab sirf in do lines me dengy...ya iqraar kar lein ki aap iska Jawab dene se Qasir hain...Else ur post wud not be entertained and it wud be consider as waste of time
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Shirk Or Toheed....Decide Urself!
Ya Mohammadah replied to AaZaan-E-Haq's topic in مناظرہ اور ردِ بدمذہب
Jab Shirk or Biddat ki Aag apny ghar me hi lagi mili to Deobandi ne khalat mabhas karty huey Hazir Nazir or door se Pukarna Sun-na ka Masla Cher kar apni jaan churana chahi...Humary Moqif par Quran or Hadees or Buzurgan e deen se to be shumar Dalail hain hi, Par pehly tumhy tumhary peeth peechy tumhary buzurg kya gul khila gaye hain uska mushahida bhi karwat chaly taki jab Baraat nikly tumhari to Barati me in sab ki bhi shumuliyat zaroor ho.. -
Shirk Or Toheed....Decide Urself!
Ya Mohammadah replied to AaZaan-E-Haq's topic in مناظرہ اور ردِ بدمذہب
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Jab Allah deen leta hai to Aql Cheen leta hai...Khuda Gawah hai Jab Jab Wahabi ne humary khilaaf Quran se ayat paish ki hain wo ayaat khud usi ki zillat ka bais bani hain...Jaisa ki aap khud dekh sakty hain... Hazrat Mariyam or Hazrat Zakariya ka farishto se ye kehna ki mujhy olad kese hogi...ismy ye kahan bayan hua hai ki bina Asbaab ke Madad Mangna shirk hai...or Asbaab (zinda murda/ Door Qareeb, Matehtul Asbab Ma Fouqul Asbab) ki qaid to tumny lagai hai..yahan to Hazrat Mariyam or Hazrat Zakariya ne Allah ke banaye Qudrat ke qanoon ki perwi karty huey apna khayal paish kiya, jaisa ki amooman us qanoon ke tehat Allah old ata karta hai...jiska jawab Allah ne farishty se yu dilwaya...Jo sareeh is baat ki daleel hai ki Tum Wahabis ka Ghair Allah se Istemdaad ko Shirk se tabeer karna laghw or mardood hai ...sabit hua Asbaab ki, Zinda Murda ki, Door Paas ki qaid laga kar istemdaad ko Shirk se tabeer karna Quran ki in ayat ki takzeeb hai...Allah ki qudrat in Qaid se paak hai wo hi Fail e Haqeeqi hai uski Madad tumhari in qaid ki Mohtaaj nahin...Bandy ke paas asbaab ho ya na ho (Bibi Maryam kisi Mard se Hamla nahin hui (sabit hua asbab nahin thy)..Hazrat zakriya umrdaraz ho gaye or unki biwi banjh phir bhi olad naseeb hui (yahan bhi asbab nahin thy) hasil kalam ye ki Allah hi Haqeeqi madadgaar hain..baqi sari madad Majazai or waseela hain..jo hargiz shirk nahin. Bandy ke paas asbaab ho ya na ho Allah hi Madad karny wala hai... Banda zinda ho ya Murda Allah hi Madad karny wala hai... Banda door ho ya qareeb Allah hi Madad karny wala hai... Ab Dubara in Ayat ko Dekho Allah ki imdad ko wahabis ki khud sakta koi qaid ajiz nahin kar sakti...Dekho in ayat ki tafseer me ibn kaseer ne kya likha... agar kaho ki wahabis ki qaid se Allah ajiz hai madad karny se to Takzeeb e khudwandi lazim hogi jo yaqeenan kisi Muslim ko gawara na hogi. uljha hai pao yaar ka zulf e daraz mein lo apny daam mein khud sayyad aa gaya..
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Qbl isky ki kuch mazeed aapky hosh fakhta kiye jayein jaisa ki mene aapko apni last post mein akhraj e tehseen paish kiya tha usi ko qayam rakhty huey is post ke awail hi me is nacheez se izzat afazi ko qubool farmiye Wahabi Janab!!! aapny bataya nahin ki mene kon se ghussy me kon se tez lafz istemaal kiye jis se aapki ankho waghera me paani aa gaya...or aapke liye hum jaisy Khaidm e Ala Hazrat hi kaafi hain...humsy to nipat lein, Ala Hazrat tak to aapky bary wahabi na pohoch saky to aap jaiso ki rasai ki to baat hi kya... or agar iska yaqeen na aaye to saboot hazir hai apky Ehasn elahi zaheer ki muzubani..ki Ehsan Elahi Zaheer Ala Hazrat ka kalam tak na samajh paty thy.. Waisy Agar koi is Haqeqat nick waly wahabi ki post ko parhy to ek baat zaroor note karega ki ye banda apny mukhalif ke andaz ko copy karny ki poori koshish karta hai...let me know if wazahat need (for instance See mine post use of using word MashaAllah so he did in last as well.) and see above he has used "...ko lafz wahabi se bari chairh hai...as i used wahabis ko shirk se bara pyar hai...and kharish etc...Kabhi apna dimagh bhi laga liya karo...wahabi Humy Quran dekhny par wahabi kyu yaad ata hai...iski Nishan dehi bhi Huzur pur noor ne Sahih Hadees me pehli hi kar di thi ... yaqeen na aaye to dekh lo..ki Quran dikha kar apna moqif sabit karna to Kharji ka bhi shewa tha par unki Ghalti Quran dikha kar apna Moqif sabit karna nahin tha balki Quran se Ghalat istedlaal karky Momino ko Kafir or Mushrik banana tha jisy Aajkal ke Wahabi jee jaan se pura kar rahy hain... Quran or Hadees Quran or Hadees Deen mein bary pukta sirf Allah or Rasool ki baat karny waly Sirf Momin hi nahin Momin dikhny waly kharji bhi thy...to ab aapko Shikayat nahin ki Wahabi ko dekh kar Hamy Kharji kyu yaad aata hai..Kharjis par Tafseelan Ahadees Yahan se Parhein.. Tumhari Kam ilmi or ghaflat ka humary paas kya Ilaaj...post delete nahin ki gayi balki thread ko split kiya gaya tha...mazeed info mene pm me kar di hai..abhi bhi waseela wala topic mojood chao to chk kiya ja sakta hai.. isy kehty hain maro ghutna or phooty aankh...Aksariyat me hona kya Gunah e kabeera hai...khuda na khasta bilfarz wahabi aksariyat me hoty to kya janaab aapka jawab bhi yahi hota..kya bachkana daleel di hai..mujhy awwail se hi andaza hai ki tum logo ka ilmi myaar kya hai..jiski nishandehi mere Aaqa e do Jahan ne pehly hi kar di thi.. ab agar aksariyat ko aap Mushrik qaraar dengy to is hadees ke munkir ho chuky aap..aapny Wahabiyat-Kharjiyat ke pasy parda Quran ko Hadees se takra diya aap Jis Aksariyat ka Mazak Ura rahy thy Hadees me Usi Aksariyat ko Ahle Haq ka Mayaar Qraar diya gaya hai...ab Munkir or Mahir e tehreef kon hua hum ya aap? lakeer ke fakeer ka laqab Wahabis ko aisy ih nahin mila...aapny usi kam aqli ka muzahira dubara kiya jasia ki aapny aapko Momin bhi kehlawaty ho or Quran ki roo se aksar momin mushrik...Janab wahabi aksariyat se murad us waqt ke Mushrikeen thy jo apny aapko Momin samjhty thy..par Ummat e Mohammadiya Jisy Ahle Sunnat wal Jamat kaha jata hai usmy Sunnis ki Aksariyat ko to myar hi qaraar de diya gaya hai isy Sawad e Azam ke title se Nawaz ke Halaki is aitraaz ka inkaar aapsy na karty bana jo humny apky mushrik hony par paish kiye thy..? jin jin cheezo ko aap Allah ki ata me shareek karty huey bator qaid lagaty ho..unko Allah ki ata me shareek kar aap mushrik kyu na huey...? Imam Shafai ne Haq kaha sabsy upar Jaisa ki mene kaha Waqai agar is baat me sachchy hoto Tamam ambiya ke Mojzaat qayamt tak baqi maano...?? Waqai agar is baat me sachchy hoto Sure Nisa ki ayat 64 ko kyu Huzur ki zindagi tak ke liye mehdood kar diya tumhary aaqao ne...ye baat un Senior wahabis ko jakr samjao Jr. Wahabi. Ab foran is Wahabi ko hosh aayega or ye hamesha ki tarah Sure Nisa ki ibn kaseer ki tafseer ke pages cut paste kakry or paint brush me laal neely colors se quote karky foran apni graphic designing work ka muzahira karega...par Jawab dena is GM ke bus ki baat nahin...siwaye apni is baat se ruju karty huey khud ko jhoota sabit karega... . Ya to Maano us ayat me mazkoor mushrik se murad usi waqt ke Naam Nihad Momin thy !! Ya to Maano Sure Nisa 64 or deegar (Mojzaat or Karamat) ka hukm Qayamat tak baqi !! Kisi ek ka Inkaar or Wahabi Kazzab Qaraar Imam Shafai ne Haq kaha sabsy upar Jaisa ki mene kaha Ghaliban ya to tum Waqai mere sawaal ko samajh na saky ya phir Jaan bhooj kar us Simple se sawaal ko gol kar gaye tumhari sahuliyat ke liye sawaal ek baar phir pasih karta hu ummed hai is baar nazar andaaz nahin karogy... "Jabki hum kehty hain ki shirk or towheed me asal farq fail e haqeeqi ki shart hai zaati or atayi ka fark hai..ibadat or beiznillah isteaanat ka fark hai...me aapsy aapki dimaghi hasiyat ke hisab se bara hi asan sawaal pooch kar is mamly ko yahi khatm karta hu bus mere asaan sa sawaal ka jawab de kar humari or apni tashaffi farmayie...or aap se na ho saky to apny bary guru ghantaal Wahabi GM Ahle ...ha..ees se pooch aayie..koi Masla nahin... 1. Adami zinda ho....(Jis sy Madad Mangi ja rahi hai) 2. Aadmi Qareeb bhi ho... (Jis sy Madad Mangi ja rahi hai) 3. Aadmi ke paas asbaab bhi hon.. (Jis sy Madad Mangi ja rahi hai) ab agar me aapsy kahu ki isi mazkoor qareeb ke zinda Aadmi jo asbaab bhi rakhta hai, is se koi ye aqeedah rakh kar Madad mangy ki ye apni zaat se khud bina Allah ke izn se meri madad kar sakta hai to kya Madad Mangny wala Momin rahega ya Mushrik ho jayega.? bus is choty se sawaal ka jawab la dein... aapki sari ki sari shirk ki kharishein...khud ba khud dafa ho jayengi.. .ki asal qaid kya hai or aapne kya laga rakhi hain...or kon apni sharait ka paband rehta hai or kon isy hatheli par jalty angary ki tarah chor deta hai ? or kis ki sharait towheed or shirk ki sahi taqseem karti hain...
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AhleHadees, aik Sifaati Naam aur Laqab
Ya Mohammadah replied to Talinenoor's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
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AhleHadees, aik Sifaati Naam aur Laqab
Ya Mohammadah replied to Talinenoor's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
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AhleHadees, aik Sifaati Naam aur Laqab
Ya Mohammadah replied to Talinenoor's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Janab tallinaar sahab aap wahi purana raag alap rahy hain jo kai maheeno pehly ye adhoora chor kar bagh khar huey thy...jabki lazmi to ye tha ki ye pehly un topic me reply karty or jo aitraaz or sawala un topics me uthayegay thy waha unak jawab dete ye nai nai topics banany say aap kuch hasil na kar payengy siwaye dono ki waqt barbadi ke... Ahle Hadith banna Na Mumkin-Jhoot hai !!, Ahle Sunnat banna hi Haq or Dursut hai !! Hum Ahle Sunnat Wal Jamat hain !! Ahle Quran ya Ahle Hadith kyu nahin?, GMs ki "Ahle Hadith" par dakazani ! Wahabi khud likhta hai ki Ahle Hadith sifati naam hai (Jaisa ki example mein Muhajir-Ansar ka mana bayan kiya) Ab Muhajir wahil kehlayega jo hijrat karega wo nahin jo hijrat karny ko haq tasleem to kary par hijrat na kary...isi tarah Ansar wahi kehlayega jo Madad kary na ki Madad karny ko sahi tehraye...hasil kalam ye ki sifati naam aapny accept jab kar liya to lazim tha aap par ki aalim fil hadees ya aamil fil hadees(umoomi) hony ki sifat aapmy mojood hoti..par kya aisa hai ya dusry lafzo me kya ye possible hai...Jaisa ki aagy aap khud parehngy....to Samjahana ye maqsood tha ki Ahle Hadith Laqab sifati to zaroor hai par usi ke liye jo iska Mustahiq ho har aira ghera GM nahin...jisy kutub e ahadis ki kitni kitabein hain unky naam tak na lene aaty hon.. Ahle Hadith Laqab FANNI aitbaar se istemal kiya gaya na ki maslakan... iska tafseeli Jawab agli post me dekhiye... Sahib e Tafseer Rohul Bayan (Janab Hazrat Ismail Haqqi Rehmatullah Alhe) ko naaqibat andaish ke alqaab se nawazna aap GM ka hi turra imtiyaaz hai...Allah bachaye Aisy Naam Nihad Ahle Haditho ki sohbat se... Wahabis ke taar Qadeem dor ke firqo se hai par Afsos Batil firqo se Jaisy Moutzila or Tashbiha phir aagy chal kar Wahabi humy ibn timiya ka hawala phir koi Mughal badshah ki Ghair Muqallid olaad ke shaikh ka hawala or Deobandi-Nadwiyo ka is GM ki tarreefo ke qowl pasih karky Allah jany kis nashy mein ye bawar karwana chahta hain ki Jab in Jehla GM ke liye sahaba ka qowl or fail hujjat nahin to inko kis mu se paish karna chahta hai...or rahi baat ibn timiya ko wali Allah or etc etc kehny ki is khabees ka zikr kar kyu is ibn timiya ki mazeed matti paleet humary hatho karwana chhaty ho? phir behas kahin se kahin na pohonch jaye... Kehna maqsood ye ki is bandy ko sab kuch mila par jo iska dawa hai usi dawy ko isny jhutla diya ki humara Minhaj Quran or sunnat hai..Ary Allah ke bandy agar tera Minhaj Waqai Quran or Sunnat hai to phir kyu apny moqif ki taeed me paish karta? Quran or Sunnat kiska Minhaaj hai ye hum in Naam Nihaad Ahle Haditho ko batay hain or apna Deen inhi dono se sabit karengy InshaAllah...... -
Ghussa? Kya aapko waqai aisa lagta hai ki mene ye ghussy me reply kiya hai? Mene to kahin koi tez lafz waghera bhi istemaal nahin kiya..mene to bary hi shareefana mohazaab lafzo me aapko nawaza hai.. or Jab kjarjiyat zahir ki jati hai GMs ki to isi tarah bokhlahat mein be sir pair ki marty hain jaisy aapny kiya..khair aapki ye harkat humary liye koi nai baat nahin "waseela..." topic me aapki bebasi or besharmi humny mlahiza ki hai humny, Don't bother, We are used to of it...aap ki wahabi cult se aajtak is baat ka radd na ho saka jo humny us topic me kharijs ki nishani wali hadees dikha kar poocha tha..thori to sharm karein GM. Agar is ayat ka hukm aam hai joki aap manwana chahty hain to phir kya khayal hai? kahin aap jasiy naam nihad momin hi murad to nahin kyuki baqowl aapky iman to aap bhi rakhty hain..ab Jawab talab amr ye ki GM ne is ehtmal se khud ko kese mustasna maan liya? hongy? ya QURAN keh raha hai ki hain...? mene kaha na Shirk lafz dekh kar wahabi deewana ho jata hai is lafz ka or phir foran isy seeny se laga kar kufr shirk biddat wali fatwa naweesi shuru kar deta hai? or Quran ka inkar kis ne kiya? Kya farmaty ja rahy hain Wahabi Janab bokhlahat mein..? ye bohtaan tarashi aapki wahabioyat ko hi zeba deti hai...!!! ab jab aap bhi apny zam mein khud ko iman wala kehty hain to aap hi ke usool ke mutabiq is ayat ka misdaq aap hi kyu na tehraya jayien..? Jaisa ki Quran me Allah farmata hai ki inmy se aksar imaan rakhny ke bawajood (wahabi says we have imaan ) Mushrik hi hain...ab aap poochyengy GM kyu to wajuhaat darjzail hain ummed hai pasand farmayegny.... Wahabi shareek karty hain bandy ki zindagi ko Allah ki ata karny mein shareek karky ...(Zinda Murda ki qaid Laga kar Jabki Sunni kehta hai Bnada zinda ho ya murda deta Allah hi hai) Wahabi shareek karty hain bandy ke Qareeb hony ko Allah ke muqably mein (Jab ye kehty hain ki Banda door ho to madad nahin karta haan qareeb hoto karta hai...Jabki Sunni kehta hai banda door ho ya qareeb Allah har shay par qadir hai jab qareeb se sunwa sakta hai to door se sunwa dena uski zaat e pak ke liye kya baeed hai?) Wahabi shareek karty hain asbaab ki shart laga kar..(Mafouqul Asbab ko Wahabi shirk kehta hai jabki ma tehtul asbaab ko nahin..Jabki Sunni ka aqeedah hai Mafouqul asbaab Quran se sabit...Sure Namal me Asif bin barkhiya ka takht e bilkees 3 mahiny ki masafat ki doori se palak jhapakny se qabl la dena Haztat Isa Aleh salam ka murda zinda karna madarjaat nabino ka or aisy nabeeny jin ky chehry par siry se aanhkein hi na thin unko binaai dena..abrasa ke mareezo ko theek kar dena kon se asbaab ke tehat tha...? sabit hua ki dono madad Allah ki ata se hain to asbaab koi mana nahin rakhty asal shart Fail e Haqeeiqi ki hai..jo ki Allah hai) kahin wahabi Ahle Sunnat ko munkir e Quran, Mushrik, Biddati hony ka bohtaan e azeem laga kar khud ki kaar guzaari se nazarein to nahin chura raha hai? Jabki hum kehty hain ki shirk or towheed me asal farq fail e haqeeqi ki shart hai zaati or atayi ka fark hai..ibadat or beiznillah isteaanat ka fark hai...me aapsy aapki dimaghi hasiyat ke hisab se bara hi asan sawaal pooch kar is mamly ko yahi khatm karta hu bus mere asaan sa sawaal ka jawab de kar humari or apni tashaffi farmayie...or aap se na ho saky to apny bary guru ghantaal Wahabi GM Ahle ...ha..ees se pooch aayie..koi Masla nahin... 1.Adami zinda ho.... 2.Aadmi Qareeb bhi ho... 3.Aadmi ke paas asbaab bhi hon.. ab agar me aapsy kahu ki isi mazkoor qareeb ke zinda Aadmi jo asbaab bhi rakhta hai, is se koi ye aqeedah rakh kar Madad mangy ki ye apni zaat se khud bina Allah ke izn se meri madad kar sakta hai to kya madad talab karny wala Momin rahega ya Mushrik ho jayega.? bus is choty se sawaal ka jawab la dein... aapki sari ki sari shirk ki kharishein...khud ba khud dafa ho jayengi...ki asal qaid kya hai or aapne kya laga rakhi hain...or kon apni sharait ka paband rehta hai or kon isy hatheli par jalty angary ki tarah chor deta hai ? or kis ki sharait towheed or shirk ki sahi taqseem karti hain... kharjis aap khud apni deserving biddatis wali hadees humy kyu dikha rahy hain ye to aapka imtiyaaz ho raha hai is hadees mein....or is se kya sabit karna chahty hain...? nahin nahin mere kahayal se aapky lafz hi aapko achchi tarah se samjha payengy humari to kya bisat apky ilm ke samny... lijye parhiye phir se apny lafzo ko..... Kuch dimgh ki khala me aaya aapky? or akhir me humary kharjy tehseen qubool faramiye....hope humy mayuoos na karengy..