Muhammad Atif Sha

hazrat jesa k ap ney mana k dono k lea baz ilm geb kaha jay ga tu huzoor is sey sabit hota k is mey Hazzrat MUhammad PBUH key ilm ki miqdar key bary mey bat nahi ho rahi................. or thanvi sab ney jo yea farmaya k is mey Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH ki kia takses...... ........ takses ka lafaz baz ilm geb k lea hey na k Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH ke ilm ki mikdar k lea........ kio k baz ilm geb ka ilm almost her insan ko ho sakta (jo k ap ka bhi akeda hey) hey jo dosry insan sey posheda hey is lea baz ilm geb ki bina per ap dosron ko tu ilm ul geb nahi boleen gey na.......... unho ney tu vazahat ki k baz ilm geb ki bina per boleen gey tu almost her insan ko bolna pary ga...... shukriya Allah hum sab ko bughaz o anad sey mehfuz rakhy

mazeed yea k hum bhi Ahle sunnat hain or hum bhi nabyoon ko masoom or Allah ko her eb sey pak manty hain sirf ap ney thaka nahi le rakha............

ab agar mey yea kahon k janab agar akedy ku bughaz key sath dekheen tu bhoot galat galat tavel nikalti hey jin mey beshak Ahmad raza top per hain lekin mey esi ghaliz bateen nahi akrna chata kio k ap ney mana nahi hey ......... ap ney dini umor ka zikar kia jis mey Harat Muhammad PBUH ko mukhtarkul mana hey agar *****************************************************************************...... nez ap ney jo apni post mey Ahmed raza ki ebarat attach ki thi tu kia Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH key lea esa akeda rakhna durust hey k vo her eb apny uper halal or dosron per haram kardeen ........... na sirf halal kareen bulky baqaeda karen bhi.................... sharam ani chya ap logo

janab jhoot per qadir hey lekin un ka jhoot bolna muhal hey....... nez esa akeda rakhna kesa hoga k vo kisi ek kam k lea bhi Allah key pas qudrat nahi hey........ mushkil or muhal hum insano key lea hey Allah key lea kuch bhi muhal nahi hey............. al gharz jab ap key pas koi thos evedence nahi hey tu i think is bat per dosro ko kio kham kha glat fhami mey mubtala kar rahy hain or dosron to bura bhala bol rahy hain ......... Ahmed raza bhi gay or ap bhi chaly jaeen gey per yea sabit nahi kar paeen gey k allah kin kin cheezoon per kadir nahi hey................. agar yea itna hi batil akeda hey tu ap log kio fatwa nahi dety hain Allah Qadir nahi hey Jhoot per............ agar esa ho tu yea Ahtamal hoga k Allah bhi kuch cheezoon per chahy vo ek ho ya 10 Qadir nahi hey jo key her giz Allah ki shan nahi hey..... buri cheez ki taseer tu Allah ney khud peda ki hey........... ab jhoot bolna glat hey kio k Islami shareat is ki ejazat nahi deti lekin agar islami shareat is ki ejazat deti tu kio Jhoot bolna islam mey gunah hota ...........or na hi yea eb hota ba kio k Allah tu shareat ka paband nahi hey or na hi hum apni pasand ya na pasand key mutabik un ki kudrat ka taun kar sakty hain lehaza bhoot bhater hota k Allah ko her cheez per qadir maneen........... shukriya or akher mey na hum bolty hain k allah jhoot bolta hey or na yea bolty hain k koi galat kam karta hey yea tu ap key akaberin ney bari bari hading lagadi key Wahabio ka Allah jhoot bolta hey yea un ki galat fhami peda karny ka nateja hey..............

Janab agar ap ko mujry key mamaly mey lughat yadd a gai tu hazrat meti mey milny key mamly mey lughat kio yad nahi ai ............. kughat mey miti mey milny k many hain miti mey dafan hona (jamaullughat j 2 s565) ............. (muneerullughat s 90)......... noorullughat j4 s1189)........ shukriya

jo hukam ap ka hazor mey ney vaha yeahi lekha tha unho ney yeaha ka link dey deya or ap ney vaha jany la bol dea............

janab vo tu Nasir Noman sab deen gey............... itna ilm nahi hey mery pas hazrat jawab dena hey tu deen nahi dena tu bata deen ........... vesy bhai saeedi sab zinda tu hain na kab sey gaeb hain computer tu kharab nahi ho gea..............

acha tu ap namaz key bad puja shoro kar dety hain ............ bhoot khub

Hazrat chimkadar halal hey k nahi................ mey ney ek form per parha hey........ jald javab deen shukriya

Janab agar ap ko mujry key mamaly mey lughat yadd a gai tu hazrat meti mey milny key mamly mey lughat kio yad nahi ai ............. kughat mey miti mey milny k many hain miti mey dafan hona (jamaullughat j 2 s565) ............. (muneerullughat s 90)......... noorullughat j4 s1189)........ shukriya

Hazrat gham tu koi nahi karta albata Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH key nam ley kar crismis manany ko rad karna chya k nahi.........

Jabar ki puja ap kareen or mushrik deobandi ko bol deen

janab edher miti mey milny k meaning miti mey dafan hony k hain ab is attachment ka jawab deen pher ap ko miti mey milny ka jawab bhoot khub samaj a jay ga......... shukriya

chalo ek bat tu ap ney man hi li k vo mujaddid-e-takfir thy.............. shukriya

edher asa ka lafz baz ilm geb k lea aya hey na k Hazzrat muhammad PBUH k key ilm k lea 2) is pury mazmoon mey Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH key ilm ki mekdar key bary mey bat nahi ho rahi. 3) asa ki jaga ap itna lagaeen , ye lagaeen in dono lafz ko bila mushabeat lena hoga na k mushabeat key sath leen....... jesy ek tarjuma hey ,,,,,,,,,,,, Beshak Sab Insan Khasary Mey Hain...................... agar ap edher mushabeat mey sab insan leen gey tu Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH or sahaba vali Allah in sab logoon ko ap ko Khasary mey mana pary ga ............... lehaza edher bhi ap ko esa, itna, yea ka lafz bila mushabeat lena hoga.......

mujaddid hain per mujaddid-e-takfirrrrrrr

Usmani sab ney is book ki tardeed nahi ki tu kabool bhi tu nahi kia na

un sawaloon ka jawab tu vohi deen gey jo un sey manazra kar rahy hain lekin ap is sawal ka jawab tu deen jo mey ney ap sey poucha hey ......... shukriya

hazrat ap bat ko kaha sey kaha tak ley ja rahy hain vo tu manazira ho raha hey ap us mey dekh leen mujhy tu bas ap ka mukuf jana hey k Allah ki ata key bager Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH ko devar key pechy ka ilm tha k nahi ............ mera mana hey k allah zarorat key mutabik jab chahy Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH ko devear key pechy ka ilm bhi dety hain or or nahi bhi........ baray meharbani bateen Devar key pechy ka ilm bager ata hey hey Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH key pas k nahi........ shukriya or saeedi sab zinda tu hey Allah un ko kher sey rakhy najany kaha gum ho jaty hain ......... jaha tak savalon key jawab ta taluk hey tu mey ap ko bol chuka hon k nasir ney imamon ke tafaseer sey jawab deya hain agar ap ko nazar na ayeen tu mey kia kar sakta hon ...............

hazzrat mina barasny ka vaqat kisi ko maloom nahi hey.......... agar kisis Molvi ney khaha tu us ko andaza tha na k 100 fesad yaqeen. or ho sakta hey k unho ney juzyat ka bola ho or Allah ki qudrat per bharosa kia ho k allah us ki dua kabool kary ga .......... janab agar koi boly k abhi barish nahi hogi or na ho tu ap tu un ko bhi Alim ul geab bolna shoro kar deen gey or boleen gey dekho kitny phonchy hovy buzurg hain bola tha k barish nahi hogi or nahi hoi......... janab ap ap bhi tu badal, hava ka rukh, or abo o hava dkeh kar andaza karty hain lekin 100 fesad zarori nahi k barish ho jay.......... agar is tarha kisi ko alim ul geb bola ho to amrica key yahodiyoon or esaiyoo ko or puri dunya k mahakma musimyat ko boleen jo ay din barish hony ki peshan goi karty hain....... agar un mey bhoot si sahi bhi hoti hain or bhoot si galat bhi ....... tu kia ap bol sakty hain k un ko bhi barish key hony ka ilm ho gea hey......... shukriya

[quote name='Ya Mohammadah' date='08 August 2010 - 12:23 PM' timestamp='1281252203' post='62941'] [b]Read my first post of this topic on 1st page see Fatwa Rasheediya's Scan pages for more proof...[/b] [center][attachment=39061:Deobandi belief about Allah.gif] [b]Allah ke Qudrat me Jhoot bolna bhi shamil hai[/b] [attachment=39055:deoband se fatwa.jpg] [size="3"][color="#800080"]Tum list ki baat karty ho to pehly apny Akabir ki list to lete jao ki jumla Qabeeh afaal Allah ke liye mumkin maan chuky ab kis mu se tum yahan hum se Allah ke liye unki list mangty ho jin par Allah qadir nahin ...lanat hai Deobandiyat par..[/color][/size] [b]Allah Chori Jehal Sharab Khori par Qadir : Mehmoodul Hasan Deobandi [attachment=39065:chori sharab or zina.GIF] Jumlah Qabeeh Afaal Allah ke liye Mumkin [/b] [attachment=39059:Deobandi saboot.JPG] [attachment=39056:Aljehdul muqil--title.JPG] [attachment=39057:Aljehdul muqil--41.JPG] [attachment=39058:Aljehdul muqil-60.JPG] [b]Agar Allah Jhoot na bol saky to Bandy ki Qudrat Allah se Barh Jayegi :Ismail Dehlwi[/b] [attachment=39060:yakroza.jpg] [b]Allah Jhoot bolny par Qadir hai :Baraheen e Qatiya[/b] [attachment=39063:baraheeny qatiya- title.JPG] [attachment=39062:baraheeny qatiya- 2.JPG] [attachment=39064:baraheeny qatiya- 274.JPG][/center] [/quote] janab ap ney fatwa nahi dekhaya k kis baralvi ney kaha hey k Jhoot bolna allah ki qudrat mey nahi hey or na hi esi list ai jis mey ap ney bataya ho k Allah kin chozoon per qadir hey or kin chezo per nahi.......... jaha tak ap key Ala Hazzrat ki bat hey tu vo Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH ko bhi Mukhtar kul manty hain ap kia khear hey esi ulti sedhi bateen un key sath attach karny k bary mey.............. App ney tu foran Allah key bary mey itni bazari zaban istemal ki hey lekin Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH key bary mey kia boleen gey jin ko Allah ney Mkutar kul bana kar Bheja............... shukriya

janab ap key jawab sey maloon hota hey k ap ko serf ravi per ikhtelaf hey......... ap bhi manty hain k Hazzrat Muhammad PBUH ko devar key pechy ka ilm nahi tha ....... iagar is bat sey kata nazar k yea hadees hey k nahi ........ or shekh ney is ko insono sey tashbhi di hey jesy ap ko or mery ko devar key pechy ka ilm bager ata key nahi mil sakta........

bas ik yeahi kufar reh gea tha barlavion k karny ka.............

bhai khali havai firing hi karo gey k manazra bhi karo gey.............

hazrat unho ney tu Allah ki Kudrat ka zikar kia hey yea tu nahi ka k vo Jhoot bolta hey.................... or dosri bat yea k tamam barli mil kar ek list banaeen jis vo tamam bateen lekheen jin per allah ki kudrat nahi hey.......... or un batoon ka zikar bhi kary jin per Allah qader hey......... nez sath sath kisi baralvi ka esa fatwa bhi attach kareen jis mey yea lekha ho k Allah key pas jhoot bolny per kudrat nahi hey agar esa na kia gea tu janab arz hey k is topic per musalmano ko gumrah mat kareen ........... shukriya