Abdulsalam

Main bhi sar-e-tasleem kham karta hon is hadith per, han is se yehi baat zahir hoti hai ke Aap ke ikhtiyar se makhsoos hai or is ke baad is hadith se ye koi or ye istadlal na kar lye ke Do namazen perh ki shart per ieman laye Kion ke is ke ilawa or bhi bohat se riwayaten hain jis ki bina per jan boojh kar jamaz chornye per waeed sunaee gayee hai or munafiqon ki pehchan main aik hadith ke mutabiq "Munafiqon per Fajr or Isha ki namaz sab se bhari hai" Bahar hal is hadith per iman lata hon or apni ghalati tasleem karta hon Allah meri ghalati or tuba ko muaf farmaye (Aamee) Jahan tak is ka jawab na denye ka muamla hai to janab aap logon ne beja tor per aik aik sawal ke liye nai topic open kar liye hain Mushrik kon, Wahabia se aik sawal, Shirk ki haqeeqat, waghera type ke aik se zayed toic open kar liye hain aap ne zara administrator se kahen ke sirf ginti poori na karen bulke is forum ko kuch nateeja khez banaye ki liye in sab ko aik jagha per jama karayn or logon ko bhi is ka paband karain......... jo log edit karte phirtye hain logon ki posts ko un ko chahiye ke apna faraz ab pehchanyen Abdul Salam

Janab Toheedi Sahib Kitab Salawat Rasool main bhi ghalatiyan theen jis ke baad Namaz-e-Nabvi ki tasneef hoi thi. han is kitab se sahi ahadeeh ko zaroor naqal kia gaya tha or hai is nain kitab Namaz e Nabavi main Doosri baat Pakar is baat per ho sakti hai jab ke is per humara amal sabit ho. kam az kam mera to is per amal nahin or main tawaqoo rakhta hon ke koi bhi ahl-e-hadith kisi wazeh daleel ke baghair is per amal nahin karta hoga Baqi rahi Dua ki khosoosiyat ki to is se kisi ko inkar nahin....... Abdul Salam

Yahan Is Aayat ki tashreeh main Hadith bhi mojood hai jis ke baad Tafseer Bir raye ka koi jawaz nahin na hi taweel ka A alag baat hai ke aap in tamam batoon se kuch or sabit karna chah rahye hon........................ (jo ke aap yahan zahir nahin karna chah rahye hain) Abdul Salam

Yhahn baat ho rahi hai Islam ke naam per aik honye ke liye or Ye sahib hain ke, jesye hi moqa mila apni baat karnye ka to shoroo ho gaye..... Itna hi shoq hai to still bohat se topic open hai is forum per wahan per taba aazmaee karain... yahan kion apni salahiyaten zaya kar rahye hain.... Ab aap in sab batoon ka jo ke aap kehtye hain ke aap ne wahabiyat se seekhi hain un ka sboot pesh karain wahabiya ke Kitabon se or saath hi is ki tashreeh bhi warna ye sab ke sab ilzam hain (jesa ke aap bayan kartye rehtye hain).......... Warna sirf ilzam ke ilawa kuch or nahin.... agar saboot na ho to ghalati maan kar khamoosh hojana ho ga aap ko jawab denye per khayal zaroor rakhyen ke aap ab jo bhi baat karain Ahl-e-Hadith hazrat ke aqeedah per un ka sabooth pesh karengye warna khamoosh rahyengye. Aap shayed ye bhool rahye hain ke humara aqeedah kitab-o-Sunnat per sab se pehlye hai us ke baad Sahaba ke aqwal-o-Aa'mal per, phir us ke baad tabaeen, taba tabaeen, sulha per........ ab aap kisi bhi kitab ka hawala den us ko kitab-o-sunnat per pesh karnye ke baad hi is ka hujjat hona mana jayega.... is ke ilawa main aap se pehlye bhi keh chuka hon ke mujhye aap se munafiqat ki boo aa rahi hai.. jo ke yahan masalon ke hal ke liye nahin bulkye sirf ikhtilaf ko hawa denye ke liye aaye hain.......... (Shia mazhab se ziyada mutasir lagtye hain aap) Abdul Salam

Main Tafseer-e-Jlalain se inkar nahin kar sakta (Kion ke un ka ilm yaqeenan mujh se ziyada tha) Lakin aap apni harkat dekhyen ke Aik Ayat jis ka tarjuma lafz ba lafz wohi banta hai ko ke Tafseer Ibn-e-Katheer ke tarjuma main likha hai, phir is ki tafseer main jo Ahadeeth Bukhari o Muslim ki riwayat ki gai us se bhi Hazoor-e-Akram ke silsilye main is ka nazool sabith hota hai... Phir aap kion is ki taweel karna chahtye hain or kion kar rahye hain.................. Aap sirf ye kahen ke aap ke Ahmed Raza khan sahib ne is ka lafz ba lafz tarjuma nahin kia bulkye doosri kitabon se istifada kartye hoye is ko Ummation ke Gunahon se taa'beer kia hai.. Doosri baat ke main ne kaha tha ke aap Tafseer-e-Shafai ke arabi page ka mukammal tarjuma urdu main likhyen lakin aap gol kar gaye Tarjuma ka intizar hai........ Abdul Salam

Janab Radiating Ali sahib,,,, dikha di aap ne apni munafiqat............... Aap ko main "Islam" ke nam per jama karnye per Mushrik nazar aata hon... Mulahiza krain Islam ka zikr, Is ke ilawa Quran main bhi zikr hai or Ahadith main mutaa'did jagha Is ke ilawa Janab nick name Ya Allah madad sahib unhain chor dain.... inhon ne bata diya ke in ke dill main kia hai........... meri koshish bahar hal jari rahyegi Asif Attari sahib, Aap shayed bhool gaye ke is post (jo ke aap ne pesh ki) ke jawab main, main ne kiya kaha tha ke, "mushrikon ka Qatl-e-Aam" jayez hai......... Ye hi woh log hain jin se islam ko nuqsanat pohnchye hain..... main ne likha tha apnye tmam nafraton or ikhtilafat ko alag rakh kar deen ko bachanye ke liye saf aara ho jayen lakin ye radiatin ali jesye munafiq hazrat (shayed Taqayyah ka libada orh rakha hain inhon ne) ki wajah se hum log yakja na hosakye.... or hawa denye wlaye bhi inhi ki tarha ke log hain.... Abdul Salam

Janab Radiating Ali Aap ke pesh karda khud sakhta taweelat or Meelad ke jawab main, Ghusl-e-Kaaba ke silsilye main bohat jald jawab mil jayega (Insha Allah), lakin filhal sirf ye hi kehna hai ke Quote main diye gaye (in bold words) aap siwaye munfiq ke kuch or nahin lagtye hain. Jab chaha Barelvi hogye or jab chaha kuch or (aap ke baqool Wahabi)" Doosri baat kis ne kaha ke soch se deen aata hai..... ? aap agar apnye ulama ki taqleed (jamid or shakhsi) chor dain or Quran or Ahadith ka mutalia karain to aap ko yaqeenan deen ke sahi mana maloom ho jayengye...deen ko samajhyen sahi ahadith or Quran se na ke apnye aamlimon ki tasaneef se Jawab ka intizar karain Abdul Salam

Janab Toheedi sahib, Zara page ka tarjuma hashiya ke sath bhi paste kar dain, Yahan sara maqsad sirf Sirf ghalat tarjumye nishandahi hai na ke (Nauz-o-Billah) HAzoor-e-Akram ki shan main kisi qisim ki gustakhi Isi liye doosrye sahib-e-tafaseer ne is jagha per gustakhi ke dar se khud ko bachatye hoye is ko Umaation ke gunahon se taa'beer kia hai..... lakin un ke ilm main yaqeenan ye nahin hoga ke is tarjumye se anye walye loog kia kia matlaib nikalengye or apny moqaf ko sahi sabit karnye ki koshish karengye....... Yani ke Christian ke aqeeda ke mutabiq Hazrat Esa apnye mannye walon ke gunahon ki paadash main soli charh gaye or ab un logon se koi baaz purs nahin hogi or wo sab bakhshye hoye hain..... agar is tarjume ko sahi man liya jaye to phir is ka bhi yahi matlab nikalta hai............. Doosri baat ke tarjuma (Arabi to urdu ya kisi or zuban main) sayaq ke lihaz se yahi hota hai ke "Tumharye aglye or pichlye gunah. jis ke tasdeeq hadith se bhi hoti hai" ab aap jo kuch kahayen woh Gustakhi se bachnye ki koshish to hoti hai lakin sahi tarjuma nahin....... Allah meri kisi ghair danista ghalati o gustakhi ko moaf farmaye or mujh per raham farmaye.(Aameen) Wallah o Aalim Bissawab Jawab denye se pehlye tarjuma zaroor pesh kijiyega janab Abdul Salam

For Every one From Tafseer Ibn-e-Kaseer (Katheer)

To all Muslims Wesye to main pehlye bhi apnye kuch khayalat ka izhar is ziman main kar chuka hon..... lakin afsoos ke saath kehna per raha hai ke hum sab ne apni derh aint ki masjid bana kar khud ko alag kar liya hai...... Dunya bhar main is waqt ji kuch ho raha hai, us per main or meri tarha ke or bohat sarye mujh se bohat hi behtar logon ko tashweesh hai...... lakin ghor karain hum sab kis tarha halat se aankhyen chura kar apnye apnye masailon ko bara maan kar isi main uljhye hoye hain.... Ye woh waqt hai jub ke, agar hum apnye aap ko musalman kehtye hain or mantye hain to humye apny tamam ikhtilaf bhula kar aik honye ki zaroorat hai.... dunya islam ko kis nehaj per lejana chahti hai woh aap tamam log dekh hi rahye hongye.. to meri guzarish ye hai ke tamam ikhtilafat ko bhula kar Kuffar(Hinduon) o Mushrekeen ke samnye seena sapar honye ki zaroorat hai...... kion ke Islam sirf Namaz, Roza, Zakat, Haj hi ka naam nahin bulkye jab deen per aanch aa jaye to phir kafiron, mushrikon, yahodion ke hilaf larnye ka naam bhi hai or us ke khilaf jis tarha bhi ho sakye jawab dena bhi hai.... To aap tamam logon se, jo ke apnye aap ko musalman kehtye hain, se guzarish hai ke is TOPIC per sirf wohi baat karain jo ke sirf or sirf Mushrikon, Yahooodion, Kuffar ke khilaf ho na ke kisi maslak ke khilaf...main ye nahin kehta ke aap sab kuch bhool jayen bulkye ye kehta hon ke "put all your hates and diffrences aside" or mil ker aik saff bana lain. Is ke ilawa mustaqbil main is saff ko kesye or behtar banana hai sisilye main mashwarh bhi darkar (required) hoga..

Mr. M Ali Razavi or Radiating Ali Aap ne apnye hi logon ke Etrazat ke dhajjiyan uradeen.........? aap ke Ghulam-e-Mustafa, Sybarite, YAsir Attari etc. in logon ne humarye usoolon ke mutabiq is ke daleel nahin mangi thi bulke un ka direct kehna tha ke ye sab ke sab biddat hai or in ka koi saboot nahin hai........? lehaza aap sab se pehlye apnye un logon ko qayel karain jinhon ne "Mahnama Raza-e-Mustafa" risalye main is ko ghalat likha hai.......take woh bhi is se fayeda utha saken.. Hum kis had tak ijtihad kartye hain kis had tak mantye hain ye to aap ne dekh hi liya........ tabhi aap ko is ki daleel bhi di, jis ki aap bhi maan rahye hain...... ab main kia karon ke ahissta aahista tmama baton ko aap ke log maan rahey hain (yani ke deewar main kamzoori aa gaee hai bus zara waqt ka intizara hai girnye ke liye)....... Ab aap bhi bina sar per ke bolnye lagye (yani ke jab aap ke nazdeek Hajj ho jata hai to phir........ aiterazat kesya.... ab ye khna ke aap ke usoloon ke mutabiq sirf jawab mang rahye they to phir aap bhi sirf waqt zaya kar rahye hain........ Ab main aata hon is Etiraz ke karnye ke wajah per jo ke aap ke Meelad sharif hai..... Agar aap is ko kuch qayood-e-Sharai ke saath karain or is per koi zamanat den ke is se tajawaz nahin kia jaye ga to yaqeenan kisi bhi aalim ko jo kisi bhi maslak ka ho koi Etiraz nahin hoga... for Example Mehfil kisi makhsoos din na ho Mehfil main log Rasool-e-Akram ka wohi zirk karain jesa ka Quran or Hadith main warid hoa hai Zikr main apni taraf se ya ghair sabit shuda, ya zaeef, matrook, munkir ahadith ko na zikr kia jaye or agar kia jaye to ye zaroor bata diya jaye ke is hadith per kalam hai, jirah hai, wagera. Mehfil main logon ke aanye ki wajah sirf or sirf Mohabbat-e-Rasool-e-Akram ho na ke koi or wajah (exmp. Dikhawa, shuhrat,) Mefil ke liye Chanda waghera ikhatta na kiya jaye... Mefil main agar speaker ka istimal ho to sirf is had tak ke jo log mojood hon un tak bayan karnye walye ki awaz pohanch jaye Speaker per Mehfil se ghanta, do ghanta, teen ghantye pehley se ziyada awaz main koi narye, naten, ya zikr na kia jaye(haqooq ul ibad ka khayal rakha jaye) Naten ghair sharai, ghuloo se bhar poor, music se bharpoor, qawwali music se bharpoor na hon In sab batoon ke ilawa har us cheez, amal ka khayal rkha jaye jo ke ghair sharai ho.. Ab agar aap ye sab kuch mannye ke liye tayyar ho jayen to phir aap is mehfil ko kar saktye hain or koi ghair muqallid or ghair Hanafi bhi aap ke mehfil main shirkat se inkar nahin kar sakta... in sab batoon ke ilawa ye bhi batana chahonga ke jab aap kisi amal ko jo ke "nai" new ho to us main changes aati hain or phir aik (1) nasal ya ziyada se ziyada teesri (3) nasal tak ke log tamam batoon ka khayal rakhtye hain lakin is ke baad us main jo tabdeeliyan aati hain un per koi control nahin hota...... or humara maqsad hi yahi hai is Meelad shareef ke naam per ke jis ki koi asal Sahaba , Tabaeen or Taba Tabeen ke dor main nahin milti (jis tarha ke aaj humarye yahan hoti hain), jo kuch hota hai woh sab siwaye sahi zikr ke ghalat hota hai ghair sharaiee hota hai, Agar aap (baqool aap ke) wahabi they to yaqeenan ye to pata hoga ke jahan bohat si ghalatiya hain wahan is main bohat se ghair sharai aamal se bachna bhi tha or hai....... in baton se waqti ikhtilaf to ho sakta hai aap ko lakin aap un batoon ko jhutla nahin saktye or mantye bhi hongye lakin taqleed bohat purani aadat hai zara der se jayegee.. Or inhi baton kon na sirf Ahl-e-Hadith hazrat pakr kartye hain bulkye us ka radd bhi kartye hain jis ki hi wajah se humye be adab bhi kaha jata hai, jub ke hum is baat per yaqeen rakhtye hain ke Insan se ghalati ho hi jati hai...... Aap ke yahan to hoti hi nahin..................???? Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib, kitini baar apna chehra aagye karengye aap.... or kitni baar uth kar kharye hongye........ Aap se main pehlye bhi araz kar chuka hon ke tamam mushkil kushai (Ghair Allah se) walye maslakon main se agar Zinda or ba tassaruf (meri post ke mafhoom) ko agar nikal liya jaye to phir un ke paas kuch bhi nahin bachta...... agar yaqeen na ho to farz kartye hoye aisa kar ke apnye tamam amal ko parkhyen ..... maloom ho jayega...... Shirk ke muamlye per, Mushkil kushai ke muamlye per, dastageeri ke muamlye per, in tamam muamlon per sirf Zina Murda, Sahib-e-Tassaruf waghyera ke zariye hi amal ho raha hai. Ab aap aik or cheez dekhyen jo ke aap ke amal se sabit bhi hai or isi forum per bohat se logon ke kehna bhi hai. Pehlye aap ne Alla ke saath saath kuch 4 or 5 bandon ki darja bandi ki, * Allah sab se bara hai, awal hai, aakihir hai, sab kuch us ke ikhtiyar main hai (beshak is se kisi ko ikhtilaf nahin) Darja bandi "bandon ki" 1) Hazoor-e-Akram 2) Hazrat Ali 3) Janab-e-Jibraeel 4) Janab-e-Abdul Qadir Jeelani (RAH) Phir in ke baad > Tamam Peer Sahiban (Wafat Shuda) > Tamam Buzurgan-e-Deen (Wafat Shuda) > Phir in ke baad mojooda(Zinda) peer sahiban lakin mjoodgi ke bagair > Phir un ke Cheelye Chantye (zinda) lakin mojoodgi ke bagair Ab in sab ke baad aap khud hi is darja bandi ki mukhalifat main kabhi Hazrat Ali ko pukartye hai Kabhi Janab Abdul Qadir Jeelani (rah) ko pukartye hain Kabhi Janab Ahmed Raza ko Kabhi Data sahib ko Kabhi or bohat hi kam Hazoor-e-Akram ko Or phir har us bandye ki qabr per jaa kar mangtye ho jis ke barye main mash-hoor ho ke woh Allah ka bargazeeda banda hai (chahye sach ya jhoot) Shia ho ya Sunni, ya phir kabhi kabhi Hindo bhi ho Ab Allah to kehta hai ke Muh se mango main donga, Meri ibadat karo main ibadat ke layeq ho (phir chokhat ko choomna, Qabar ko choomna), Mujh se dua karon main sunnye wala hon, main apnye amar se har jagha mojood hon phir in ayaton ke bawajood Allah ke ilawa kisi or se madad mangna or phir ye aqeedah bhi rakhna ke woh na sirf sunsaktye hian bulke kam kar bhi saktye hain...................? yar itni confusion hogi to log kahan jayengye.................? Wesye Shitan har gunah ko bohat bana sanwra kar pesh karta take log is ke dhoke main aa jayen. Jab ke aap ki pesh karda haidht bhi aap ke hi mukhalif hai ke Jab Hazoor-e-Akram ka darja tamam doosrye logon se buland hai to phir Hazrat Umer ka Hazrat Abbas se dua karwana kis had tak sahi tha....................? Zara ghor farmayen or koi taweel pesh karnye ki koshish karain..................... Kion........... Abdul Salam

Sahi kaha aap ne........ ab aap jis tarha bhi khush hona chahiyen ho jayen..... main kon hota hon aap ko apni nasamjhi per khush honye se..........? Merye reply ko zara ghor se parhyen, (under line alfaz ko) phir zara ghor karain....... Mujhye to Allah ka Shukr hai ke ilm hai ke Mushrekeen -e- Makkah kin kin wajoohat ki bina per Mushrik hoye ab aap apni hi sirf manye to main kuch nahin kar sakta.... han aik kam zaroor karain ke Sahba ikram, Tabaeen (RAH) or Taba Tabaeen ki tasaneef daikhain to shaye aap khud hi apnye aqeedah se rojoo kar lain,......... warna Allah hi Hafiz hai aap ka...... Khush rahye aap apnye khud sakhta aqeedah per.... Ye topic already mojood hai Ghair muqallid section main, baraye mahar bani wahan rojoo karain ufaqa hoga, agar nahin hoa to Marz bohat shiddat ikhtiyar karchuka hai, Dua ki zarorat paryegi....... sath dawa ko na choryen (yani Quran -o- Hadith ko) Janab aap sirf jawab ki baat karain............., aap ko jis per Nas chahiye mang lain.... nas na hoi to Qayas per aayengye... kion ke Qayas ka inkar nahin humrye aqeedah main, han Nas ke muqablye main Qayas hujjat nahin humarye liye........ Jawab ka hanooz intizar hai..... Abdul Salam

Janab "Toheedi bhai" sahib aap ka bohat bohat shukriya ke aap ahista ahista woh sab kuch mantye ja rahye hain jin to main or har woh banda jo shirk ke saye se bhi bachna chahta hai to bacha-na chahiye, to aap bhi mantye hain ke "Kandhalvi sahib ne jis riwayat ka zikr kia hai woh zaeef hai" Aap ye bhi mantye hain ke Man Kunto Moula, Fa Ali Moula. Hazoor-e-Akram se kis waqt mansoob o sabit hai, jahan ke zaroor Imamat nahin bat(taqseem ho) rahi thi na hi Wilayat?????? Aap ye bhi man rahye hain ke Moula ke Maana Nasri o Habib ke hi liye gaye hain, kion ke ye waqiya jis waqt ka hai us waqt wahan dosti o muhabbat ka izhar hai or is ki talqeen. Ye sab to aap ne mana Naqli sabooton ki bunyad per Ab aatye hian aap ke istadlal per, Kia aap bata saktye hain ke Quran ya Ahadith, ya Qol-e-Sahaba se kahan sabit hai ke Mot ke baad Roh or ziyada ba ikhtiyar or taqatwar ho jati hai..... phir aap ka istadlal Hazrat Ali ki mot ke baad bhi un se madad or un ka is per ba ikhtiyar per hai......? Fazeelat -e- Sahab ki behas ghair mutaliq nahin hai jesa ke aap ke Asif Attari sahib ne Jo ayat quote ki thi us ke jawab men main ne jo tafseer ibn-e-kasir se aap ko or un ko us ayat ki tafseer pesh ki thi us main Hazrat Abu Bakar , Hazrat Umer , or Hazrat Jibraeel or Sahleh Momeneen ka zikr hona or us ke baad kuch sahaba ke nazdeek Hazrat Usman o Ali ka hona zikr hai, lehaza isi wajah se main ne aap ko mashwara (Naooz o billah e min zalik) diya tha ke agar madad hi mangni hai to in hazrat se kion nahin, Aik or mazeed baat jesa ke Quran main zikr hai ke Jibraeel bhi Madadgar hain to phir aap main se kon se log Jibraeel ko madadgar-o-Moula mantye hian or un se madad talab kartye hain. Hadith ko manna Ghulo nahin, Bulke is se ghalat istadlal kar kye mohabbat main barh jana, ikhtiyarat or shakhsiyat ko mohabbat main itna barha dena ke woh haqeeqat ki hadood se nikal jaye is ko ghulo kaha hai..... lakin afsoos Baat waheen per aa jatee hai ke Jab Allah farmaraha hai ke mujh se madad mango, mujh se dua karo (ye ibadat ki aik qisim bhi hai), mujh se hi aafiyat talab karo, mujh hi se daro, to phir aap log Allah ko Chor kar kisi or ke dar per kion ja rahye hain, jab ke aap bhi mantye hain ke jo kuch milta hai or milega woh Allah hi se milye ga phir bhi aysi kam aqli...............? Ab main mazeed kia kahon aap khud hi samajhdar hai.. Abdul Salam

Mr. Radiating Ali, is ko kehtey hain aqal per patthar parna, Agar aap ko ilm nahin ke Ahl-e-Hadith ke maslak main Ijtihad ki kiya hasiyat hai to phir aap ko Aetiraz ka koi haq nahin...... Ab aap behtar hai ke khamosh rahyen...... aap ki pichli post ka jawab dena chahta tha lakin aap ke administrator (or any one) ki meharbani se na desaka ke screen per likha aa raha tha ke "you are not allowed to reply here" Janab is ke silsilye main aap ke aik aalim jo ke shayed aap ke Imam Ahmed Raza sahib ke son hain ka fatwa bhi hai aap ke paas kia woh share karna chahyegye aap or ye bhi batayen ke ye aap kahan se istadlal kar rahye hain?? Is ka bhi saboot darkar hai, baraye meharbani share kar kye shukarya ka moqa dain. is ka bhi saboot darkar hai.... In sab batoon ke ilawa ...... is tarha to phir jab se jab se ye sawariyan banin hia or marbal o farsh bichye hain us waqt se humarye saath saath kisi ka bhi hajj nahin hoa..........................? bohat bari bat kar rahye hain aap....... guzarish hai ke zara zehan main imagin karain ke kon kon aap ke is fatwye ki zad main hai......?? Han to Alhamdo Lillah Ghusl-e-Kaaba ka mas-ala to hal ho gaya. (aap ki lagai gai qadghan beja hai), or is silsilye main pehlye apny ulama se rojoo karain ne ke kisi wahabi aalim se...... insha Allah confusion clear ho jayegi Ab aap masala shoroo karna chahtye hain ke hajj ho sakta hai ke nahin..........? lets start.... main shayed filhal jawab na de sakon lakin or bohat se log mojood hai jawabat denye ke liye, or main bhi waqtan fawaqtan read and reply karonga (Insha Allah) Abdul Salam

Qatan Naheen Abdul Salam

Janan Toheedi sahib Sahi kaha aap ne "aap ko Tehqeeq ki kia zaroorat, aap ke liye to Ulama hi hujjat hain"......? or zara ye rata rataya jawab denye se pehlye aap zara dekh letye ke main ne kaha tha ke zara sand or hadith ki kitab ka hawal to pehs karain Warna ye to aap ke nazdeek bhi "Andhi Taqleed" ke zumrye main aati hai. Is ke ilawa to baat hi nahin ho sakti warna datye rahin apni baat per hum aap ko sirf sahi rasta dikha saktye hain un per chala nahin saktye kion ke Hidayat denye wali Zaat to sirf Allah hi ki hai Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib Sab se pehlye ye ke "pehlye to aap ne kaha ke sawal ka jawba de do to baat khatam ho jayegi" ab main ne jab aap ko jawab diya or aap per aik qaid lagai ke kcuh bhi kehnye se pehly hawala, sanad or waqia ke baghair kuch na kehna to aap ye samajh bethye ke hum sehum gaye.... lakin hum kia karain aap se ye bhi baeed nahin ke aap kisi Sahabi ka Qol dekha kar kahyen ke ab Batoo...... Allah mujhye muaf karaye, Doosri baat ye ke jesa ke main ne pehlye bhi kaha hai ke is tarha to Mushrekeen-e-makka bhi Mushrik na hoye kion ke woh bhi sab kuch Allah hi ki taraf se ata kia hoa or ata kia jana mantye they, to phir aap ne kon se nai baat kardi, Is ke Ilawa Eesayoon ke liye utri Ayat main un ka Ulama ko Rab bananye ka zikr bhi hai jis ki Hadith se tashreeh main hai ke un ka Apny Ulama ke bataye hoye Halal to Haram or Haram ko Halal samjhna or manna hai to phir un ke liye bhi yahi baat hai. Teesri baat ye meri baat ka jab aap Jawab de saken to hi aap ko pata chalye ga ke Nas ke Muqablye main Ijtihad o Qayas ki hasiyat hai. Ab mas ala to aap ko suljhana bulkye samajhna hai ke aap ka aqeedah kis had tak sahi hai is muamlye main.... jesa ke main aik jagha per keh chuka hon ke "agar aap ko ye pata ho ke kisi jagha invest karnye per aap ko nuqsan ka andesha hai to aap yaqeenan wahan per invest nahin karengye, lakin jab yahi baat iman ke silsilye main kahi jati hai to hum apna iman dawo per laga denye ko tayyar hain....? to kion aap shubhat (yani ke jis main andesha ho ke yahan per merye Iman ki salamti ka masala hai) main pertye hain. Jawab ka intizar rahye ga..... Abdul Salam

Janab Toheedi sahib Bohat acha laga ke aap bhi mutalia ka shoq rakhtye hain, tabhi Ali Mathar Naqvi sahib ki tasneef aap ke pass hai, Mujhye bhi ilm hai ke Ahl-e-Hadith hazrat kia raye rakhtye hain Janab Kandhalvi sahib ke barye main, or ye bhi ilm hai ke Tammana Amadi ke barye main bhi. Dossri ye ke aap ki ya phir Janab Mathar Naqvi sahib ke baaton main bohat tazaad nazar aata hai Aik taraf to kehtye hain ke Ahl-e-Tashee hazrat ke saath bohat achye taaluqat they, Vote bhi dia, Doosri taraf Hazrat Ali ke barye main Bohat Bughz rakhtye they, Teesri taraf Yazeed ki Olaad kehnye per ghussa bhi kartye they or gali bhi mantye they? Ab aap se guzarish hai ke in janab Ali Mathar Naqvi sahaib ka bhi taaruf karva dijye to meharbani hogi, Rahi baat meri aap ke bataye hoye Ahadeeth ko Sahi kehnye per mera khamoosh hona to is silsilye main main ne kuch kahye baghari aap se aik sawal kia tha ke "is Hadith se aap kis tarha Hazrat Ali ka Madadgar hona istadlal kartye hain, or doosra ye ke is istadlal ka aap ke paas kia saboot hai?" Teesri taraf main ne aap se kaha tha ke Zara Albani sahib jis hadith ko sahi keh rahye hain us ki sanad bhi bayan karain or ye bhi batayen ke Shareheen e Hadith ne is Hadith se kia istadlal kia hai Abdul Salam

Janab Toodhi sahib Jo daleel aap ne di (jesa ke aap ka kehna hai ke Shah Ismaeel dehalvi ne ya daleel di hai) to kia aap ne tehqeeq na ki??? ye to sarasar aap ke haq main jata hai is tarha to aap ko khush hona chahiye na ke bughz rakhna chahiye Shah Ismail Dehalvi se. Baharhal agar aap ne ye takleef kar hi li hai to is waqt bajaye kisi doosrye sawal main janye ke aap ye bayan karain ke is Hadith ke hawala jaat-o-Asnaad kia hain, kis Hadith ki kitab main ye riwayat mazkoor hai or Muhaddetheen ka is per kia kehna hai....? Wesye ye aap logon ki purani aadat hai ulama ke Qol ko hujjat bana kar pesh karna (Ulama ko Rab bana lena ke hadith ke mutabiq) Koi Sawal nahin sirf jawab...... Abdul Salam

Aik Doosri Jagha farmatye hain ke, Janab Asif Attari sahib Agar ye do (Qoutes) jo aap ke khud ke hain, aap ka sawal ye hai ke woh Shirk main mubtla hoga ya nahin to Jawab hai ke Banda Mushrik Ho Jayega Ab aap batayen kia batana chah rahye they or is ke zarye ab aap kis ko mushrik sabit karna chahtye hain? Wazeh rahye ke aap jis ke barye main bhi bayan bazi karain us silsilye main poori sanad, hawalajat or poora waqia naqal kijyega, warna aap ki post kisi khatir nahin lai jayegi..... Ab main aap ko aik or jawab de deta hon or saath hi sawal bhi daghta hon. Janab Shoib sahib ne jo post shirk ke rad main pesh ki, ho posts hum ne ki woh sarihan Nas thi (Jesa ke tamam logon ne Quran ki sareeh ayat or Sahi Ahadeeth pesh ki) or in sab ke jawab main aap ne woh ayat pesh ki jin se aap istadlal to karsaktye hain lakin sareeehan hukm (Nas) nahin keh saktye..... Yani ke aap ne Nas ke Muqablye main Qayas ko tarjeeh di or de rahye hain or dattye hoye hain... Sawal ye hai ke Jab Nas mojood ho to Qayas ki kia hasiyat hain aap ke nazdeek deen main koi Uljha jawab nahin chahiye, koi taweel nahin chahye, Sirf jawab ye dena hai ke Qayas ki hasiya Nas ke muqablye main kuch nahin Qayas ki Hasiyat Nas ke muqablye main qavi hai Kahin main ne ghalati ki ho ya samajhnye main ghalti ki ho Allah mujhye muaf karye or mera khatma Iman per bilkhair ata farmaye (Aameen) Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib mulahiza karain kuch mazeed Abdul Salam

Janab Toheedi sahib, Janab Albani (RAH) sahib ne kis sanad wali Haidith ko sahi kaha hai woh bhi maloom kar lain please, kia woh Hakeem Tirmazi (RAH) ki hi riwayat hai? Ahl-e-Hadith Bugz-e-Ali nahin bulke Bughz-e-Rafziyat o Shiat rakhtye hain or idhar aap ne ilzam laga diya ke Mahmood Ahmed Abbasi or unke mannye walye Bughz-e-Ali main mubtla hain (Naooz o Billah -e- min Zalik) Hum yahan per aap ko Ghulo se bachanye ki koshish kar rahye hain, Haq o Batil ki Tameez ka daras de rahye hain or aap hain ke Bughz-e-Ali ka ilzam.....? To Phir aap Hazrat Bareeda (Bukhari) or Hazrat Bara bin aazib (Tirmazi) ki ahadith ke barye main kia kahyengye???? Han ye hum to kehnye main haq bajanib hai ke aap or aap ke tamam bhai Muhabbat Ahl-e-Bait (Ahl-e-Bait ke darja bandi bhi aap ne Shia Hazrat se li hoi hai warna Quran to Ahl-e-Bait ki kuch or taareef bayan karta hai.) main Ghulo ke darjye main pohanch chukye hain or aap ko is ke ilawa kuch bhi naar nahin aat hai, to bunyadi tor per aap log Shiyat or Rafziyat ki rah per gamzan hain, is silsilye maian Allama Ibn e Jozi ki Talbees -e- Iblees zaroor mulahiza karain Agar aap ko Madadgar hi chahiyen to Janab Quran ki Ayat jo Ke Asif Attari sahib ne pesh ki or us ki tafseer jo Ibn-e-Kaseer ne bayan ki ke mutabiq Hazrat Abu Bakar or Hazrat Umer ko banayen, jesa ke doosri ahadth hai ke Quroon-e-Oola main sahaba ke darmiyan agar kisi ko foqiyat thi to woh Hazoor e Akram ke baad Hazrat Abu Bakar they or un ke Baad Hazrat Umer , or kuch sahaba ke mutabiq un ke baad Hazrat Usma or phir Hazrat Ali ka. Aap bajaye is ke ke Habeeb ur Rahman Kandhalvi ki jirah ko dekhtye aap ne bas likh mara (NAASBI), us main zara dekhen Allama Zelie Hanafi ke mutabiq is hadith (Sanad kon si hai is ka ilm nahin) ka zaeef hona likha gaya hai. In tamam baton ke baad kia aap ye sabit kar saktye hain ke aap ne yahan "Moula" ke maana Madadgar ke kesye liye hain, Warna Albani sahib ke mutabiq is ke maana "Dost" ke hain, Is ke ilawa kia aap bata saktye hain ke aap is Hadith se Hazrat Ali ka Madadgar hona un ki zindagi ke saath makhsoos samajhtye hian ya un ki mot ke baad bhi????? or phir is ka istadlal aap kis tareeq se letye hain. Mazeed ye ke is Hadith ki tashreeh muhadetheen ne kia ki hai???? Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib Ulama Ahl-e-Hadith ka moqaf Aap shyed isi baat per khush ho rahye hain ke aap ko Ahl-e-Hadith ulama, Risalon or Tasneefat main sahi kaha gaya??? yani ke ab aap ko humari hi gawahi ki zaroorat per gai......? Allama Ehsan Elahi Zaheer Is ke Ilawa Jahan Allama Ehsan Elahi Zaheer ke kitab Al-Barelviya, to janab us kitab main to aap he ke Aala Hazrat ke Tasneefat or aqeedat mandon ke kitabon se aap ke Ala Hazrat ke barye main likha gaya hai. Jis ke Radd (ye aap ka kehna hai) ke bajaye asbat (defence) main aap ke Hakeem Sharf Qadri sahib ne Apnye Aeeda ko ziyadah tar jaghon per Ulama ke amal or Qol se sabit kia hai, ab us kitab ke barye main kia kehna...... Ahl-e-Sunnat wal Jamat janab sirf naam rakh lenye se kuch nahin hota jesa ke aap khud ko Ahl-e-Sunnat wal Jamat sirf isi liye kehla rahye hain ke Ahadith-e-Mubarika main Ahl-e-Sunnat wal Jamat ka zikr hai...... lakin aqayed ka kia........ Jo aqyaed hain jo amaal hain woh to abhi tak zer-e-bahas hain......? Ab rahi baat Ahahd-e-Mubarika ki to janab is bat ka kon inkari hai ke Aqayed ke lehaz se woh jannat main jayega jis ka Tareeqa Allah ke Rasool ka or un ke baad Sahaba ko honga..... kia aap kahin dikha saktye hain ke Kisi Ahl-e-Hadith ne kaha ho ke Sahaba ka Qol Hujjat nahin......? Han ye zaroor kaha hai ke Hazoor-e-Akram (SWA) ke qol ki mojoodgi main Asr-e-Suhaba Hujjat nahin . to phir problem ye hai ke aap log khuah makhuah maasoom logon ko ghalat information detye hain or un ko rah se bhatkatye hain..... Ahl-e-Hadith Ab rahi humraye aqeedah ki baat to janab ye to aap keh hi nahin saktye ke humara Aqeedah batil hai....... Agar kehtye hai to saboot pesh karain sirf naam ka sahara kion le rahey hain.....? Apnye aap ko Barelvi or Razavi, Attari, Qadri kehalwanye main aap khud hi fakhar kartye hain...... Khud ko Ahl-e-Sunnat wal Jamat hi kehalwatye to acha tha is tarha kam az kam koi barelvi, Qadri, Razavi, Attari nisbat ki to zaroorat nahin parti. Jahan tak humarye naam ka sawal hai woh to aap ko bata hi diya gaya hai ke woh Sifati hai.... ab aap apnye aap ko sifati kesye sabit karaengye????? Ab aap nam kuch bhi rakhyen (ilawa Kafiron or Mulhidon ke namon ke ilawa) Aqeedah sahi hona chahiye. Lehaza ,merye khayal main ye topic waqt zaya karnye ke siwa kuch or nahin........ So just stop the discussion right here Abdul Salam

Jee Umer Taaj Attari sahib, Sawalat pesh karian, agar kuch mazeed hain to.... Main intizar kar raha hon. Abdul Salam