Abdulsalam

Janab Tohidee sahib Humarye Nazdeek to Shah Wali Ullah (RAH) ki Taqwiyat-tul-Iman se hi un ka Aqeedah and amal sabit hai Aap khud kehtye hain ke Shah Abdul Haq Muhaddith Dehalvi (RAH) Hanafi they Aap ko Shayed ye Ilm na Ho ke Nawab Siddique Hasan Khan, Pehlye Shia thye or woh unke Haq main bhi likhtye rahtye thye ab un ki kisi kitab jo ke unhon ne us dor main likhi ko aap hujjat bana rahye hain?? agar ye un ki Sahi Rastye per aajanye ke baad ki bhi kitab hai to humraye liye Hujjat nahin, Na Hi Shah Wali-Ullah (RAH) ki nahin hi Nawab Siddique Hasan Khan sahib ki. Isi liye kai martaba main aap ko ye bata chuka hon ke jo Ayat-o-Ahadith ki ro se aqeedah sabith hota hai us se ye Aqeedah rakhna or us per amal kernye wala mushrik hi kehlayega. unless ke wo khud is se rojoo ker lain, jesa ke un ke deegar tasaneef se sabit hota hai. aap un ki deegar tasaneef jis main unhon ne Shik ke beekhkani ki hai wo bhi mulahiza farmayen Naad-e-Alliya se mutaaliq dobara ye hi kahon ga ke aap kuch bhi kerlain is ko sahi nahin sabit kersaktye, tehqeeq zaroor ker lain ke ye Riwayat or Dua ki bunyad kia hai warna ye sari baat chor ker is dua ko perhna chor dain or is per amal bhi na karain Naad-e-Alliya is se mutaliq mukhtalif Riwayat (jo ke sabhi ghalat hain) main pehlye hi post kar chuka hon Ab aap baraye meharbani koi aur sawal kernye ke bajaye (mere ulama ko chorain kion ke hum akabar parasti per yaqeen nahin rakhtye hain) or Naad-e-Alliya ke Tehqeeq kerlain Wesye Shia Hazrat itni koshish nahin kertye hain is ko sahi sabit kerne ke liye (kion ke un ka is per amal hai, chahye woh Aga Khani hon, Ismaeeli hon, Bahai hon ya Asna Ashri), lakin ye humarye Sunni Ulama hi hain jo is ko sahi sabith kernye ke liye buzargon ke aqwal pehs kerna shorow ker detye hain (cha-jaeka) islawa is ke ke koi sahi Hadith pesh karain Mera Maqsad Ma-Foqul-Asbab hi tha (Meri Ghalati) to phir aap ker to yahi rahye hain or Nauooz-o-Billah Hazoor-e-Akram se bhi yahi kehalwa rahye hain agar nahin to sahi riwayat pehs karain. Yahan per sirf baat Naad-e-Alliya se related hai...agar aap is per amal kertye hain, aqeedah rakhtye hain to sabit karain ke ye aqeedah sahin, Note: Yahan per Waseela, Murdon se madad, Shaheed ki zindagi se mutaliq post karnye se koi fayeda nahin. Sirf Naad-e-Alliya se mutaliq jawab ke ya kahan se wajood main aaiee, Sahba ke zamanye main is per amal tha ya nahin, Charoon maslak ke Imam ka is per amal tha ke nahin Aik sawal Hazrat Ali se Madad Kia aap batana pasand karyengye ke Sirf Hazrat Ali hi ko Wali kion mantye hain?? Koi ur sahaba kion nahin hain kia un sab ki fazeelat kuch kam thi (Nauz-o-Billah)?? (Allah mujhye muaf karaye), ya phir aap bhi Ghadeer-e-Khum ke waqya per yaqeen rakhtye hain??, Ya phir Ali Moula ka Naarah Laganye walon main hain?????????????? Ab aap jawab dain ya nahin aap per munhasir Ijazat chahonga Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib, Aap ka shukriya ke aap ne meri post ka reply kia, ab zara ye mulahiza farmain ke aap ne jo jawabat post kiye hain woh Andhi Taqleed per diye hain, to janab, Jawab to wahin mojood hai ke Andhi taqleed nahin kertye, Taqleed kertye hain to Bitehqeeq, Dalil ke sath kertye hain, Jab humain bhi kisi cheez ka ilm naihn hota to hum bhi Ulama ke pass jatye hain, kion ke Quran main Allah ( ) ka hukm hai ke "jab tumhain ilm na ho to un se poocho jo jantye hain" to phir pehle to Allah ka Hukm mantye hain, Phir Aalim, Ulama se dalil talab kertye hain (Na karain to ghalat honye ki sorat main khud ka amal), is tarha Andhi Taqleed se bachtye hain. Doosri ye amal Us Aalim ke Taqleed nahin kehlaiga. Baqi rahi Sorah-Takasur se masail ka istikhraj or is main mojood, Haqeeqat, Majaz, Sarih-o-Kinaya, Zahir-o-Nass, to janab is ke liye hum bhi Ualam ke pass jatye hian kion ke humain (aam Logon ko) is ka ilm qatai nahin hai. Ab aap is ko apni Dalil main pesh karna chahtye hain to aap ki marzi hum kia karsaktye hian siwaye aap ko Ayaat, Ahadith, Aqwal dekha saktye hain. Manna na Manna, is per amal karna na karna Khalisatan aap ka muamla hai. Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib Sub se pehlye ke aap ne jo Hadith (Mere Sahaba Sitaron ki manind) pesh ki us ke Sehat tehqeeq talab hai. Secondly jan ye batain aap farma rahye hain ke Sahaba ka Muqallid Hona zarrori nahin kion ke unhon ne barah-e-Rast Rasool-e-Akram faiz hasil kia, to Janab ye to Sahaba ke liye tha na ke Imam Abu Hanifa (RAH) ke liye? Imam Abu Hanifa ke liye to taqleed wajib hi rahi......? Teesri baat ye ke aap ka ye tehna ke "Pani(Ilm) to aik hi tha lakin mukhtalif seenon se aanye ki soorat main Mukhtalif naam hoye" lakin kehna ye hai ke jab ilm aik hi hai to mukhtalif naam ki kion zaroorat kion pesh aaiee? Kia Muhammadi naam rakhtye hoye sharm aa rahee thee in muqallidon ko? humain yaqeen hai ke in Mujtahedeen (Imam Shafai, Imam Malik, Imam Abu Hanifa ya Imam Hambal) ne to nahin kaha hoga ke ya naam rakho... to phir Muhammadi kion nahin, Ahl-e-Toheed kion nahin, ya phir Ahadith ke Mutabiq Ahl-e-Hadith kion nahin......? Yaqeenan ye in ke baad ki ikhtiyar shuda naam hain. To janab is se to ye hi sabit hota hai ke tamam Masalik sahi hain or koi bhi kisi bhi maslak per amal kersakta hai, usko qabool ker sakta hai. lakin jaba baat to ye hia ke aap ke ulama and awam to sar-dhar ki bazi lagadete hain sirf Imam Abu Hanifa ki Taqleed wajib kernye ke liye (ye suni sunai batain nahin hain, dekhi and check ki hoi hain)....? Jab ye tamam aik hi darya ke serab karda hain to iska matlab hai ke inke istakhraj shuda masail tamam ke liye aik honye chahiyen, to phir Shafai ki namaz ko ghalat kion kehtye hain, seenye per hath bandhnye ko ghalat kion kehtye hain, Fathia Khalf-ul-Imam ko ghalat kion kaha jata hai, Rafayadain ko ghalat kion kaha jata hai? Or bohat say KION zehan main mojood hain lakin jawab tahal nahin...... Isi liye kaha jata hai ke hum us waqat tak sahi momin nahin ho sakty jab kat hum aapas ke ikhtilafat ko Hazoor-e-Akram ke adalat main a lejayain or Aap ke faislye ko na manyen Abdul Salam

Janab Pehlye to aap se guzarish hai ke suni sunai batoon per yaqeen na karain. Doosri ye ke aap log Deoband and Ahl-e-Hadith ko humesha mila (Mix) ker detye hain. Teesri ye ke bhai sahib, agar Aalim Daleel na de to us ki koi manta hi nahin, agar bilfarz man bhi le to ye us ka apna amal hoga na ke puri jamant ka? mazeed ye ke jab aalim koi masala Quran-o-Hadith or Aqwal-e-Salf se deta hai to janab us ne is ko nahin roka hota hai wo khud ja kar ye check (itminan) na kerlye. us ko puri choot hai ke woh ab is maslaye ko aamil ke bataye hoye hal ki soorat main dekhye. Ab aalim ye to nahin kar sakta ke wo koi aisi baat bataye jo sirf woh hi janta ho, or wo Ahadeeth main ya Aqwal-e-Sahaba/Salf main na milye! Agar aesa ho to phir baat wahin per aa jatee hai ke us ki kon manye ga siwaye un ke jo ke Andhi Taqleed karna chahain Abdul Salam

Janab Saif-ul-Islam Sahib Dobara pesh-e-Khidmat hai .......... Taqleed ki Taa'reef 1) Kisi ki baat bila daleel-o-Tehqeeq man lena ya is per amal karna. 2) Kisi ke amal ki Ittaba karna/us ke ikhtiyar kiye rastye per chalna bila daleel. Urdu attachment neeshye posted hai Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib janab yahan aik risala mulahiza karain Taaweez.pdf Abdul Salam

Janab Saif-ul-Islam sahib Aik mazeed Jawab Pesh-e-Khidmat hai Abdul Salam

Janab Saif-ul-Islam sahib Is ka matlab ye ke Agar kisi Ahl-e-Hadith aalim ne koi baat apni tasneef main likhi ho (Quran-o-HAdith se takranye ki sorrat main) to wo tamam Ahl-e-Hadith Hazrat-o-Ulama per lago nahin hoti na hi is ka matlab ye hoga ke Tamam Ahl-e-Hadith ulama ka is per ittifaq hai. Is barye main ya to un Aalim ne tardeed ki hogi ya phir Rojoo ker liya hoga (Yaqeenan) jin ki wazahat un ke amal se hogi/ho sakti hai. Sh. Aamin ke baat main nahin kar raha hon.... Main jab kisi ki baat karonga to un ka naam, Hasiyat Tasawoof ki dunia main kia hai. is per amal kesye or kon karta hai, ke sath karonga (Insha Allah) Han sh. Amin ka hawala is soorat main zaroor diya ja sakta hai ke kin wajoohat (Soofiyana ifkar-o-Aamal) ki wajah se wo is soorat ho gaya. Abdul Salam

Janb Saif-ul-Islam sahib Taqleed ki Taa'reef Kisi ke baat per bila daleel-o-Tehqeeq man lena ya amal karna Aik Mazeed taa'reef ye bhi ke Kisi ke amal ki Ittaba karna/us ke ikhtiyar kiye rastye per chalna Is ke ilawa aik attachment bhi pesh-e-Khidmat hai Wahabi ki Taqleed upne Ulama ke bataye hoye mas-alye main Janab hota to aisa hai ke jab koi Wahabi (Ahle-e-Hadith) kisi aalim ke paas jata hai or koi masala poochta hia to Aalim jo bhi hal deta hai us Ahl-e-Hadith sahib ko to woh is ke haq main dalil zaroor pesh karta hai, yani ke Ayat, HAdith, agar ye donon na hon to Qol-e-Sahaba agar phir bhi na milye to Rajeh Qol. Is ke baad hi hum Ahl-e-Hadith is masale per Un Aalim ke baat manta hai... Ab aap is ko Taqleed kehtye hain to ... Janab zara Taqleed ke Maana yaani Taareef zara apni kitabon main hi mulahiza farma lain Abdul Salam

to All Janab is Post per insha Allah hum Ahl-e-Tassawuf ke Afkar-o-Nazariyat, mashaghil, Amal ko discuss karyengye.... koshish yehi ho gi ke un ki mustanid kitabon ke hawalye se baat ho, or in ke jawabat bhi mustanid hawalon se hi qabool hongye Ye baat zaoor pesh-e-nazar rahye ke Ahl-e-Hadith hazrat ke yahan Ulama Aqeedah ke silsilye main Hujjat naihin rakhtye hain, sirf wo batain Hujjat rakhti hain jo Quran-o-Sunnat ke mutabiq hon, ya phir agar in ka zikr in (Quran-o-Hadith main radd ya mowafiq) main na milye to Sahaba, , Taabaeen (RAH), in ke baad Buzurgan-e-Deen (RAH) , in ke baad Ulama-e-Akram ki batain hujjat hongi. Agar Moderator, Administrator, ya members hazrat ko kuch kehna ho to banda Hazir hai Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib, idhar udhar ki ko kahi lakin, Ilmul Adad ko sharai sabit kernye se qasir hain aap, yahan tak ke aap ye kehnye per majboor ho gaye ke hum jaa ker Janab-e-Bezavi (RAH) se poochain ke aap ne ye riwayat kion kot ki.....? yar kia ho gaya hai aap ko??? main ne to ye bhi bata diya ke aik Kashmiri sahib ki kitab main jo ke tarjuma hai is tafseer-e-Bezavi ke pehlye parye ka, ke is riwayat se Ilm-e-Jamal ki dalil nahin li jasakti.... aap phir bhi is ke peechye parye hain. Janab ab aap hi ne to is koi Ilm-ul Adad ke silsilye main fatwye ki soorat main pesh kia tha ab aap hi keh rahye hain ke Riwayat ki Sanad-o-Hasiat-o-Sehat ke barye main Hazrat-e-Bezavi se poocha jaye?? Is ka to aik hi matlab hai ke be-dalil hi sahi bus chon ke riwayat shuda hai to dalil ho gai.... bhat hi acha ilmi andaz hai aap ke ulama ka...... janab zara fatwye ki taraf nazar dorain, is ku mutabiq "in aadad ko Qurani Alfaz-o-Ayat se khas nisbat hai" or aap keh rahye hain ke bilkul bhi ye kisi aayat ke mutabadil nahin ho sakti...? ya to fatwa ghalat ya phir aap ka khud sakhta jawab..... mazeed ye ke "786 ko ulama ne is liye liya ke Bismillah ke likhnye ka badla ho jaye" aap ke pesh kiye gaye artical ke page 2 Bhai sahib aap ko bunyadi tor per ilm hi nahin ke "kabala" kis ilm ka nam hai, Yahoodi is se kis tarha faida utha rahye hain, Nimorology kis bla ka nam hai, Shiayat ke nazdeek ye Ilm Hazrat Ali , jab ke kuch riwayat main Hazrat Jaafar (RAH) se mansoob hai...... Jab aap in sab baton se la-ilm hian to phir aap ke samnye kuch bhi rakh diya jaye aap ke liye Aap ke Ulama hi hujjat hain....... ab aap ye batain ke aap kis tarha ke sabooton se manye gye? main to ye bhi bata dena chahoonga ke Nimorology (Ilm-ul-Aadad) ka ilm basicaly yahoodion ne bhi Kaldanion (Chaldian) se liya hai or ye unka (Yaoodion ka) bhi ijaad karda nahin, is main qabil-e-zikar tabdiliyan zaroor yahoodion ki hain kion ke kaldanion ke nazdeek Huroof Ibrani ya Arabi nahin hotye thye Janab chon ke aap ne kaha ke hum sirf khatoot per jo ke ghair muslim ke hathon main, napak ke hathon main jatye hain, per likhtye hain to phir sab se pehlye aap ko ye karna chahiye ke apnye Fatawaon per se in ko mita dain, wo to yaqeenan kisi ghair muslim ke hathon ya Naapak ke hathon main nahin jatye hongye...? agar han wo jatye hain to Subhan Allah ke Bismillah jo ke aik sorrah ki aik mustaqil ayat hai us ki taazeem to itni lakin Fatawon main mojood Qurani Aayat ka koi khayal nahin, is main mojood Allah ke nam ka, Hazoor-e-Akram ke namon ka kuch ahsas nahin hum khutoot main our bohat se alfaz ke sath kisi ka nam Abdullah (jis main ke Allah ka lafz aata hai) bhi likh detye hian, kisi ka pura nam je saka Muhammad Ali, Muhammad Taha bhi likh detye hain to kia un ki koi hesiyat nahin........? Janab jawab detye hoye zaroori hai Pasban-e-Aqal ka bhi sath ho... is ka bhi solution hia ke kis tarha hum in be-adbion se bach saktye hain, lakin baraye meharbani Ilm-ul-Adad ko sharai sabit kernye ke liye had se na guzar jayen or dalilon ke sath guftogo karin Aap ke pesh karda Risale ke page number 3 (printed 4) ke mutabiq Ahl-e-Kashf (yani Ghaib ki batain zahir kernye walon) ke mutabiq in aadad ko in Alfaz ke sath aik khas Batni Rabt (Pooshida Taaluq) hai to phir sawal ka jawab aap ke hi pesh karda risalye main moojood hai. Jab aap ke kitabon main likha aata hai ke "Jo shakhs flan soorat ko itni martaba perhaiye ya phir aik makhsoos din ya waqt per makhsoos taadad main is soorat ke naqsh (jo ke ilm-ul-Aadad ki sorat main kuch murraba (Square, Triangle) o Musalath shaklon main likhye hotye hain) ko pieye ga wo flan fazilta hasil karyega ya is ka flan faida hoga (is ke liye door janye ki zaroorat nahin, kisi bhi Shishdah Soorah ki kitab, ya Wazaef -o-Awrad ki kitab utha lain) to phir ye ilm-o- Adad sorat ki misl nahin to phir kia hain...........? Sab se aakhir main aik mazeed baat aao ke gosh guzarna chahonga ke "Nadan dost se Dana Dushman acha" Lehaza Dana Dushman dhoondhyen or Nadan doston se peecha chura lain Abdul Salam

Janab kia koi nahin hai.. Sach ka matlashi.....?? Abdul Salam

Mohtaram janab Saeedi sahib Kuch sawalat post kiye they aap ke reply ke jawab main, un ke jawabat ka intizar hai...... Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib Aap ne ya kiya kia?, Aap ne apnye aik hummaslak ko 786 ke barye main apne hi maslak ki doosri shakh Deoband ko reply kernye ke liye isi post ka hawala de dia?? Janab ab aap ke hum maslak sahib agar ye pooch parye (agar samajhdar hon to) ke is main to kcuh mazeed sawalat mojood hain jis ka jawab aap ne abhi tak post nahin kia to phir.....? Well chand din pehlye aik sahib ki kitab nazron se guzri, koi kashmiri sahib thye jindhon ne Tafseer-e-Bezavi ke Pehlye parye ki tafseer ko kuch aasan lafzon main tarjuma kia tha, and us ketab ke mutabiq, Tafseer-e-Bezavi main jo Ilm-e-Jamal ke qaeeda ke barye main riwayat mojood hai wo sirf aik riwayat hai, jab ke isi ke jawab main un ka kehna hai ke is se koi daleel Ilm-e-Jamal ke silsilye main nahin li jastki, Doosri baat ke is silsilye main ke Alif Laam Meem, Alif Laam Raa', ke silsilye main unhon ne aik rajeh qol naqal kia hai jis ke mutabiq in Horoof-e-Muqqatta'at ko Horoof-e-Hija, ya Haroor-e-Hajja kaha hai or is ke matlab zamanye ka nahin liya hai. wesye mujhye ye nahin pata ke ye sahib kon thye ya hain.... han agar aap log un ki kitab ke barye main janna chahtye hain to zaroor batain, main insha Allah is kitab ka nam, Musannif ka nam, or further details bhi post ker donga Jawab ka intizar rahe ga Abdul Salam

Janab Mowahid sahib Aap ka sawal to sahi hai lakin tareeqa ghalat hai, jesa ke main ne pehlye bhi kaha tha ke us Hazrat se sirf aqeedah per guftugu karain, muqallid hona in ke liye zaroori hai or humarye liye muqallid bit-tehqeeq hona zaroori hai Ab zara aap kuch ghussa kam karain, or in se isi sawal ko doosrye andaz se poochain yaqeenan jawab nahin ban parega Janab Saif-ul-Islam sahib Aap ka kehna bilkul sahi hai ke "hum Andhi taqleed ke bilkul bhi qail nahin hain", kion ke Taqleed ke maana (meaning jahan tak mujhye pata hai, aik ye bhi hain ke kisi ki baat baghair tehqeeq ke durast man lena, or ye aap bhi manain gye kion ke isi Radd-e-Bad mazhab ki post per mukhtalif logon ne ya kaha hai ke "humarye Ulama ke kiya hi izzat hai ke wo jo bhi kehdain hamain qabool, lakin in wahabion ke ulamaa ke ia izzat ke in ki koi manta hi nahin" ab aap bhi zara ye check kerlain ke main kahin ghalat to nahin keh raha hon (han alfaz idhar se udher ho gaye hon to kuch nahin keh sakta, lakin matlab bilkul ye hi hai" Ab sirf isi baat per to ikhtilaf ahi ke Ulama ki tamam batain (ghalat ya sahi) dono qabool, lakin Quran, Hadith, Sahaba, Muhadseen ki batain na-qabil-e-Qabool, Rahi baat aqayed ki to janab "Sawalat from a Ghair muqallid" per kuch sawalt posted hain kia aap jawab dena pasand karengye???

Dear all, Filhal main is topic per Yazeed ko Paleed ya Pak sabit kernye ke liye nahin post kar raha hon Lakin kia yahan per koi Tehqeeq se dilchaspi rakhta hai? ya koi kuch hidden truth (chuppa hoa Sach) janna chahta hai to please reply karain, merye pass kuch tareekh and such se related kuch matarial hai jo ke main share karna chahta hon. lakin is ka maqsad khalisatan Tehqiqi ho ga na ke kisi ki bhi takzeeb is se murad ho gi. intizar rahega reply ka Abdul Salam

Janab Asif Attari sahib Meri ghalati ke main ne ye nahin likha ke main kis kahani ke puranye hone ke barye main keh-raha hon. kahani nam wali purani nahin hoi bulke "firqa bannye wali" (for examp, Asri, Salafi, Ghuraba, Umara, Lashkar-e-Tyeba, etc) hoi hai jis ke barye main apni post per reply ker chuka hon Well Mr. Sybarite, aap sahi keh rahe hain, is ka koi ground nahin hai lehaza delete ker dena hi behtar hai. Abdul Salam

Muazrat ke sath is topic per reply post kar raha hon, ke ye meri behas nahin. Namm rakh denye se kuch bhi nahin hota, ab aap humain Ghair Muqallid kahain, ya Muttab-e-Sunnat, Wahabi kahen ya phir kuch or, koi baat nahin. kion ke mukhalif se adab-o-adaab ki umeed rakhna bewaqoofi hoti hai, Ye hi baat Mouwahid sahib aap ke liye bhi hai. in se baat karian sirf aqeedah ke silsilye main warna aap ka hi time zaya hoga Ab Aatye hain jawab ki taraf. Janab Naveed Khan sahib, kia hi baat ki, or asal baat to gol ker gaye. jab muwahid sahib ye kehtye hain ke kamsekam jo nam diya hai wo sahi to kerlain, to is ke jawab main kahani likh di, jo ke yaqeenan aap ne kahin se parhi hogi gi ya phir suni hogi is ke ilawa is ki tareekh bhi kafi purani hogi. in tamam jamatoon main jin ka aap ne zikr kia aik ke ilawa tamam jamatoon ka aqeedah ki baaton main ittifaq hai. Wo Lashkar-e-Tayebba ho, Jamatut Daawa ho, Ghuraba Ahl-e-Hadith hon, Youth Force hon ya phir Asri hon ya salfai tamam ke tamam aik hain. Ye to aap ne "Dil ko behlanye ko Ghalib ye Khayal Acha hai" ke misdaq in main taffriqa dhoondh liya hai zara mojooda halat maloom karain phir zara baat karain. Sirf aik Jamatul-Muslemeen aik aisi Jamat hai jo ke Apne aap ke Jamat-ul-Muslemeen hi kehalwana pasand kerti hai is ke ilawa tamam Zar-e-Ablagh main bhi yahi kehalwati hai han aap ko Ahl-e-Hadith ke tareekh darkar hai to scribd.com (ye koi Ahle-Hadith ya Deobandi site nahin bulke aik int. site hai jis per Barelvi, Shia, Tasawoof ke Ulama ki kitabain bhi uploaded hain) per jaa ker wahan se Tareekh Ahl-e-Hadith ko dhondh lain and download ker lain yaqeenan faida hoga Abdul Salam

Janab Toheedi sahib Main ne sawal ka jawab to diya tha apni pichli post main, lakin aap ke hi baqool "kiya Piddi or kia Piddi ka shorba" post aap perh saktye hain Doosri baat, jawab ki soorat main mujhye yaqeen hai ke yahi bataya jayega ke "han ye un ka pehlye aqeedah tha, or baad main unhon ne rojoo ker liya ya phir ye kitab ya is ke mundarijat in se ghalat mansoob kiye ja rahye hain" in donon soraton main aap ki tassalli nahin ho gi kion ke aap is ko nahin manyegye, lehaza main ne ye bhi likha ke "ab inhon ne ye amal kia bhi ya nahin, ya is per in ka aqeeda tha bhi ya nahin ye to Allah hi janta hain" aap ke nazdeek Ali se madad mangna jayez hai, lakin kia HAzoor-e-Akram ko bhi majboor karengye ke wo bhi Ali se Madad mangain (Foqol-Asbab)? kai ho gaya hai aap ki mohabbat ko?? Isi liye kaha jata hai ke Aqeedat ka Ghuloo insan ko kahin ka kahin pohncha deta hai. Aap ke Mutabiq Sheikh Abdul Haq Muhadith Dehalvi Hafai Qadri thye to, inhon ne is Dua-e-Sefi ko bila Tehqeeq kion riwayat kia? (Imkanan hi sahi). kia har cheez jo aap ka dil chahye wo aap ke liye jayez ho jati hai?? Isi ki Tehqeeq ko main ne kaha tha ke ab aap hin batain ke kia tareekh hai is Riwayat ki, warna mujhye to ye pata hai ke ye Bektashi silsilye mian nihayat hi maqbool hai, is ke ilawa tamam Shia Hazraat is Dua ko dil-o-jan se chahtye hain or is ke faizan ke silsilye main bohat si riwayatoon ko jama kar liya hai Ab aap is Riwayat ko sahi man kar Shia Aqaeed ko taqwiyat nahin ponhcha rahye to phir kia kar rahye hain?? In Tamam batoon ke baad ye bhi bata dain ke Ulama per hi itna zoor kion? Jab Quran-o-Ahadith ki Ro se Ghair Allah se (Foqul-Asbab) madad mangna jayez hi nahin to phir Quran-o-Hadith ke bajaye Ulama ke Aqwal-o-Riwayat ko muqaddam kion bana rahye hain?? Aap ke liye Shia Hazrat ka Aqeeda Nad-e-Ali ke silsilye main kia hain post kar raha hon Abdul Salam

Humarye Asif Attari Sahib ko kuch ziyada hi jaldi hoti hai reply post kernye main!. Jab ke main ne khud hi aik fatwa post kia tha Darul Ifta ki taraf se jis main ke Ilm-ul Aadad ko Sharai sabit kernye ki koshish ki gai thi. Is ke ilawa main ne kuch sawal bhi kiye thye or mawazna kernye ko kaha tha, jin ka jawabat ka hanooz intizar hai. well Asif sahib kia aap batana pasand karyengye ke Tafseer-e-Bezavi main jo Hadith riwayat ki gai hai us ki Asnad kia hain? Kin Ahadith ki Kutub main is Hadith ko Riwayat kia gaya hai, Is Hadith ki Sehat kesi hai? Ye to thye tamam puranye sawalat, ab aatye hain aap ke Post kerdah reply ke nateejye main zehan main aanye walye sawalat aap ke post se ye to zahir hota hai ke Ilm-ul-Aadad Hazoor ke Zamanye main mojood tha or Hazoor-e-Akram ne is ke barye main sakoot farmaya (Lakin ye Hadith ke sehat, o Asnan se mashroot hai), is ke ilawa main bhi is ilm ke mojood honye ka qail hon, lakin sawal ye hai ke Kia aap Kisi Doosri Zuban ko, ya is ke kisi juz ko Quran ki Ayat ka mutabadil thehrah saktye hain? agar han to kia in nambron ko hum kisi bhi kam ke shoroo kernye se pehlye sirf 786 bol ker shroo ker saktye hain (kion ke ye mutabadil hain)? agar han to agar koi in alfaz ko yad kerlye to kia wo Hafiz-e-Quran kehlayega? agar han to kuch Quran ke nuskhon ke shoroaat and ikhtitami safhat per kuch Soratoon ke naqoosh diye jatye hain jo ke un sooraton ke khuas rakhtye hain to kia in naqoosh ko yad ker lenye se ya sirf in Naqoosh ko aik bar perh lenye se poorye Quran ka sawab mil sakta hai? ab aatye hain aap ke is dawye ke taraf ke ye Aadad(Jamal ka hisab) sirf Arabi ke sath makhsoos hi liye hain aur kisi or zuban main hum is tarha ki koi misal pesh nahin ker saktye to janab aap sarf-e-Nazar se kaam le rahye hain, zara merye post kerda images ko dekhnain is ke mutabiz Ibrani (Israeli) zuban is ke sab se pehlye mukhrij hain baad main kuch logon (Kin ne ye tehqeeq talab hai) is ko Arabi ke sath makhsoos ker diya ab aap ki aasani ke liye main aik image dobara post kar raha hon, ab zara is image ko mulahiza farmayen or batain ke Aadad ka ilm kahan se mustakhrij hai Kuch mazeed sawalat bhi hain lakin aaj ke liye itna hi kafi hai Abdul Salam

Janab Toheedi sahib Baja farmaya aap ne ke main kon hota hon Shirk ya Gustakhi ka fatwa laganye wala.. Ab jo Quran and Ahadith kehtye hain us ke lihaz se jo sahi laga wo keh diya/likh diya. lakin main ab chup hi saadh lon to behtar hai, ke Ulama ne jo bhi kia wo is ke khud zimedar hain, ab kia ya nahin kia ye bhi Allah hi Janta hai. Zarori baat ye hai ke, jab aap bhi keh rahye hain ke, aik Wahabi ki kitab main is ka Ghazwa-e-Tabook ya Ahad main Taleem hona imkan hai, to kia aap ne is Wahabi per Ghustakhi ka fatwa nahin lagaya, and kion nahin lagaya ke is main Hazoor-e-Akram ko Ali se madad mangnye ko kaha gaya tha???? Doosri baat aap ka kehna hai ke hum is ko Shiaon ke Aqeeda ki waja se nahin perhtye hain bulke kuch ulama ne is ka zikr kia hai or wo is per amal pera thye, is waja se hum bhi is ka wird kertye hain, ab yahan mujhye or tamam logon ko batayengye ke is ki tehqeeq ke baghier is ko Taqleed-e-Jamid ke usool ke tehat kion bila choon-o-chara maan liya gaya. Teesri baat ye ke amin jo kuch is barye main ab tak janta tha woh main ne aap logon se share ker lia, ab aap is ki theqeeq karain ke is ka markaz kia hai and is main haqeeqat kitni hai Abdul Salam

Main aik post ke reply main ye topic start kar raha hon, kuch din pehly aik sahib Malik Rizwan ne aik sawla "Request" section main post kia ke 1) 786 ka kia matlab hai? 2) 92 ka kia matlab hai? 3) ye kahan se akhaz keye gaye? 4) is ki sharai hesiyat kia hai? to is ke jawab main aik fatwa post kia gaya jo ke mundarija zel hai is ka jawab to main abhi nahin de raha... lakin main chand din pehlye yahoodion ka aik Ilm jisye "Kabalah" kehtye hain dhoondh raha tha and is ke ilawa un ki zuban sikhnye/samajhnye ke liye koi kitab bhi dhoondh raha tha to mujhye kuch kitabain mileen us ke baad jab ye post (786 ka matlab) meri nazron se guzra to mujhye yaad aaya ke kuch is ke barye men main kahin or bhi parh chuka hon wo sab kia hai ye baad main bataon ga lakin sare dast ye pages hazir hain. Attachment 1 Attachment 2 Attachment 3 Ab zara page attachment1 and Attachment2 ko Attachment3 se milain and compare karain or batain ke kia samajh men aata hai Wese jo Hadith qote ki gai hain wo weyse kis Hadith ki kitab se Qote ki gai hai ye bhi zara batain meharbani ho gi (ye main Azrah-e-Tamaskhur nahin ke raha) bulke main zaroor janna chahta hon ke kia Yahoodion ka Ilm sahi hai jo hummye is per amal kerna chahiye?? Abdul Salam

Dear Mr. Sunni Student Here i was thinking to post the reply of your second last post in detail, but now i decide to stop, as i've realized that Mr. Jeddawi was the one who wanted us to fight with each other with the metter he posted once and dissappared. but if you are intersted to know my reply please go to reply of the post of "Apne Amalon per maghroor ganjye Wahabis ki Kharijiat per" there you would be able to find all the details you've mention in your posts, as far as Syed Ismail Shaheed's Taqwiyatul-Iman is concerned please let me know the The Wrong Interpretation of Quran he did it it in a Saperat post. for further details you may find the book from a non Ahl-e-Hadith website which is esnipp, it is posible that the administrator may delet this website as he would not be aware of its contants, as he did firts i tride let peoples know Mr. Administrator so please it is humble request to you please just for the sake of Dawat-e-Islami do not delete this web site. there is alot about the truth about the christians, Jews, Hindus, and all other contires and relegions of their Anti Muslim and Anti Islamic works and Illimunities, and Freemesonary as well So please before deleting it check the web site first yourself Thanks a Lot Abdul Salam

Dear Mr. Sunni Student Here i was thinking to post the reply of your second last post in detail, but now i decide to stop, as i've realized that Mr. Jadewi was the one who wanted us to fight with each other with the metter he posted once and dissappared. but if you are intersted to know my reply please go to reply of the post of "Apne Amalon per maghroor ganjye Wahabis ki Kharijiat per" there you would be able to find all the details you've mention in your posts, as far as Syed Ismail Shaheed's Taqwiyatul-Iman is concerned please let me know the The Wrong Interpretation of Quran he did it it in a Saperat post. Thanks a Lot Abdul Salam

Janab Toheedi bhi sahib, sahi kahon to dill to chah raha hai ke bohat kuch likon, kion ke likhnye ko bohat kuch hai, lakin..... ye zaroor andaza ho gaya hai ke aap mera waqat zaya kerna chahtye hain and logon ka dhiyan batana chahtye hain. meri post Nad-e-Alliya ke barye main meri "Sawalat froma Ghair Muqalid" wali post per hi hai and main jawab wahin chahta hon and Now There Is No Any Other Option. secondly Quran ki ro se, Ahadith ke ro se han in tamam logon per pehlye to Shirk ka fatwa kagye ga phir Ghustakhi-e-Rasool ka aap log humesha bhool jatye ho ke HUM KAI BAR KEH CHUKYE HAIN KE HUM ULAMA KE KISI GHALAT BAAT KO NAHI MANTYE UN KO BHI USI TARHA TREAT KERTYE HAIN JIS TARHA DOOSRON KO" to phir ulama ke rat kion, Kion ulama ki baton ko hujjat bana rahye hain??? Nad-e-Aliya ke maani (Meaning), us ko riwayat kis ne kia, kab kia kon tha, us ke baad kis ne kia, and us per amal kon karta hai ye main apni post main likh chuka hon, ab is amal, wazeefa, wird per jo bhi amal pera hai wo Shirk main mubltla hai. aap ke likh denye se is ke silsilye main kahi gai batain jhoot sabit nahin ho jayengee..... agar aap sachye hain to saboot lain main ne to saboot de diya ke ye ghalat hai. ******************************************************************************** *********** Is post ke Reply ke baad main kuch batain is forum per mojood tamam logon se share karna chahta hon Dunya main is waqt bohat kuch ho raha hai, men ne jab se tehqeeq shoro ki to kuch sach samnye aaye jo main is form per mojood tamam logon se shair karna chahta hon ye mushahidat mundaraja zain hain 1) Humye Roti, Kapr, and Makan main uljha diya gaya 2) Humye sirf ye kaha gaya ke Namaz, Perho, Roza Rakho, Zakat Do, Haj karo, yahi deen hai, is ke ilawa kuch or mat socho (seculer soch, and taaleem) 3) Agar kuch mazeed socha to ye ke Quran main kia likha hai, to humye mukhtalif ghalat tafaseer ki taraf mor diya gaya, jab ke kuch ko kaha gaya ke Quran mat perho gumrah ho jaogye (Naooz-o-Billah). kuch ko kaha gya ke aik Quran ke zahiri maanye hain, and aik batni. 4) Kuch mazeed aagye berhye to nazar ye aya ke ye hi nahin pata ke sahi kia, ghaalat kia?? jo kuch molvi ne bata diya wo hi sahi 5) Kuch mazeed aagye barhye to Firqa wariyat main ulajh gaye 6) Kuch mazeed aagye barhye to ye hi sabit kernye main lag gaye ke "woh" wo naji firqa hai jo jannat main jayega 7) Hum ne Ulama ko apna Rab bana lia, Quran ko Bhoolgaye, Ahadith ko Bhool ghaye, ya sirf un Ahadith ko qoute kia jo apne aqeedye ke mutabiq thin 8) Humye in tamam baton main uljhanye ka maqsad sirf itna tha ke ye Muslim Qom jis se aik dunya darti thi, jis ka kam Toheed ki Dawat tha, Jis ka kam Tadabbur karna tha, Jis ka kaam Ilm hasil karna tha, jis kam "Amar-Bilmaaroof-w-Nahi-Anilmukir" tha us ko in tamam baton main uljhado to ye humarye samnye sar nahin utha sake gi or aik dossrye ke sath sir takra ker mar jaye gee 9) Kion ke humarye paas wo roshan chragh tha jis ke roshni se na sirf hum apna rasta talash ker saktye they, bulke is se tama dunia ko roshan bhi ker saktye thye 10) Dunia nahin chahti ke un ki Hakoomat khatam ho, logon ko un ke haqooq pata chalain, un ko pata chalye ke Hakim ke Haqooq kia hain, Allah ke kia hain, khud un ke kia hain, kion ke Badshahon ne humesha khud ko Poojwana chaha hai, (Firoon, Nimrood, Akber, Aatish parast, Yonani, Roman etc) 11) Yahood Gumrah ho chuke thye, Christians Shirk main mubtala ho chuke thye, is ke ilawa tamam mumalik, duniya mia shirk per amal ho raha tha, us waqat Allah ne Hazoor -e-Akram(SAW) ko maboos farmaya, Quran ko utara, and Apne Akhri Khutbye main Hazoor-e-Akram ne farmaya ke main tum main do cheezain chor ker jaraha ho, agar tum unhain thamye rahongye to kabhi gumrah na hogye, aik Quran, Doosri meri Sunnat. hum hain ke Quran ko chor diya, Sahi Hadith ko chor kar zaeef Ahadit ko pkar lia, Quran per Ulama ko tarjeeh denye lagye to phir hamara hashar kia hota?? wahi to ho raha hai 12) Jab koi kehta hai ke research karo to kaha jata hai nahin is se gumrahi milti hai.....?, wah kia sarab main mubtla hain log. jab kaha jata hai ke Quran asan hai sumajhnye ke liya(Quran ki Ayat) to kaha jata hai nahin ghalat matlab nikal loge to gumrah ho jaoogye, to phir kis cheez ki ittiba karain??? Meri in tama baton ko log perhnye ke baad kuch loog to zaroor sochaingye, to doosri taraf is ko kuch log jazbati post kahengye and rad kerdaingye, kion ke qoh socha nahin chahtye hain. Main ne sirf yahan aik fikar denye ko koshish ki hai ke aap tama log sochain jo ke Allah ne mujhye di and un tamam logon ko di jo kuch sahi kerna chahtye thye and hain main aik Solution bhi dena chahonga ke barahye karam Quran ko Tarjume (Translation) ke sath perhnye agar aap sahi rasta talash kerna chahtye hain, is ke liye bhi koshish kerni ho gi ke, Trajim taqreeban tamam aik jesye hian phir bhi teen mukhtalif firqon, (Hanafi, Deobandi, Ahle-e-Hadith) ke tarjumye hasil keye janye (main tafseer ke baat nahin kar raha hon), aur phir Quran ke pegham ko samjha jaye. Jahan per samajh na aaye waha per Ahadith ka sahara liya jaye (Tafseer-Ibn-e-Kathir) jo taqreeban tamaml firqon (Hanafi, Deobandi, Ahle-e-Hadith) mian yaksan maqbool ho. Yaqeenan is ke ilawa main kuch mazeed nahin keh sakta In Tamam baton ki wajha (jo main ne yahan ki, lakin jazbati nahin thi and is main haqeeqat ke ilawa kuch bhi nahin tha) is Waqt duniya-e-Islam per hunye walye Zulm-o-Sitam hain, ke hum to apnye jhagron main lagye hoye hain or wo wahan zulm ki chakki main piss rahye hain, hum tamam Islami Mumailk ke baadshah Hazrat (Wazeer Baadshah ka hi hota hai and sadar ki koi hesiyat nahin) to kuych nahin ker saktye lakin Ulama ka faraz hai ke Baadshah-e-Waqt ko is ke fraiz ki yaad dilyain, ke ye bhi Allah ke Hukm ki Paasdari hi hai. Ab main faisla aap tamam logon per chorta hon, Abdul Salam