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Janab Sybarite, yahan zaroori hai ke in sawalat ka jawab aap log dain chahye kisi post se hi copy past karian.... warna shaid baad main aap is se inkar hi kerdain ke aap ne ye nahin kaha(said) ya maana (believed) bilkul Ghunat-tut-Talebeen ki tarha Is ke baad is per bhi kafi behas hogi ke aqeedah kis ka kharab hai agar nahin to main again ye hi kahonga ke in batoon ke baad hi aap hazrat ka aqeedah wazeh hoga is ke ilawa mean while doosri posts per bhi jawabat jari rakhnye ki koshish karonga.(Insha Allah ) Abdul Salam
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Janab Gulam-e-Mustafa sahib Meri baat ka jawab denye ke liye aap ne shaid aik laine poori ki poori chor di and mujh se question hai ke main ne apnye aqeedah ke khilaf likh diya”Aqwal-e-Ulama-e-Haq”, ya beizzati karwa di? To jaba zara is se phlye ka jumla bhi mulahiza farmain ke ” Pehlye bohat si posts main bayan ho chuka hai ke, humara sab se pehlye amal Quran-o-Hadith, secondly Aqwal-e-Sahaba , thrirdly Aqwal-e-Taabaeen then Aqwala-e-Taba-Taabaeen and is ke bawajoo kisi maslye ka hal na milye to phir ulama-e-Haq ke aqwal and aamal," wo bhi us waqat jab in ka amal ya aqwal Quran-o-Hadith se na takraye…. To janab Hazoor-e-akram ki Hadith ke mutabiq jab aap ko Nas-e-Qurani, Nas-e-Hadith, na milye to aik Sahabi ko apnye Qayas se faisla (decision) kerne ko kaha, jis se aap log qayas ko sabit bhi kartye hain to humara amal behar hal Quran-o-Hadith ke mutabiq hi hoa. Abdul Salam
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Imam ke peechy Quran or Sure Fatiha ki tilawat nahin
Abdulsalam replied to Abdulsalam's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Janab Saeedi Sahib 1) Dill main perhnye ke silsilye main aap kia ye kehna chahtye hain ke Baqool aap ke Jab Allah ne Is waqat khamoosh rehnye ka hokum diya hai to dil main perhlenye se is ki hukam adooli nahin hogi?? Yaqeenan hogi lakin.. to phir is ka doosra matlab to ye hi hai ke is ka wajoob hai sabit hoa??? 2) Fasaada se related post already mojood hai, jis main wazeh hai ke Zehri (Rah) se Mooamar Fasaada zikr kernye main munfarid hain. (Hafiz Ibn-e-Hajar and Ibn-e-Habban) Sahi al Hadith 1883) Main ne is Hadith se inkar nahin kia na hi is ki sanad ko kuch kaha hain, lakin ulama (Ibn-e-Haja and Habban) ke nazdeek ye sanad to sahi hai lakin lafz "fasaa'da" ke silsilye main munfarid hain Is hadith per aitraz (jo ke aap ne khud zahir ker diya ke Bukhari (Rah) aap ke nazdeek Hanafi se ikhtilaf rakhtye thye,) to Sorrah Fatih ke sath koi soora bhi milani chahiye??? Yani again sorrah fatiha ka wajoob sabit hota hai, jahan tak hamara taaluq hai to hum Bukhari ki Hadith, Muslim ki Hadith, and doosri Kutub-e-Ahadith se is ke (tasdeeq) main warid hoi hadithon se istadlal ke tehaht sirf Soorah Faitha ko Wajib Mante hain (jo faraz ke darrjye main pohanchti hai, Hzoor-e-Akram ke hukum ke mutabiq) Hazrat Abu Hurera se marvi ke “ meri Fatiha fot na hone dena” ka aik jawab hi ho sakta hai ke is Hadith ko aap Wajoob fatiha ke against main nahin le saktye, sarsari nazroon se Ahadith ko dekhnye se yahi hota hai, ye dekho ke muhadetheen akram ke nazdeek is hadith ko raqam karnye ka kia matlab hai, Bilfarz agar aap is se istadlal karna hi chahtye hain to ye zehan main rakhain ke again ye jehri qirat wali namaz thi, ye khayal rakhnye ko kaha ke meri fatiha fot na ho to Ther ther kar tilawat ki jaye, and agar ther ther kar tilawat kernye ka pata nahin deti to is ka matlab hai ke tilawat hi na shoroo ki jaye and mere jamat ko milnye ka wait kia jaye” Is ke ilawa yaqeenan doosri sorat bhi milani hogi tabhi (kion ke Jehri Qirat thi, Aameen sunnye per hi Ammen ko na chootnye ka kaha gaya), to us sorrat ke sakton ke darmiyan bhi Sora Fatiha ki tilawat ho sakti thi and ho sakti hai, Imam Sharani ki kitab Ghaisul agham/Ghaisul Maa’ram ka hawala to diya jo ke Hanafi Imam hain, Kitab ka aks bhi insha Allah pesh kardonga. Main ne inkar bilkul bhi nahin kia. Lakin baat wahin per pohanchti hai ke Ahadith ki aap ke nazdeek koi woqqat nahin?? Lakin Imam Shaa’rani ki kitab ke aks per hai….? Aap ke akhri (kion ke doosrye tamam sawalat topic se hat kar hain and is ka jawab aap ke ulama bhi de saktye hain), ke Imam Bukhari ne Mukhalifat-e-Ahnaf main is Hadith ko complete riwayat ki… doosrye alfaz main unhon ne khiyanat ki….? To phir Bukhari ko Quran ke baad sahi tareen kitab kehna ghalat ho jayega……? Kia ye sahi hai……..? ye hi wajah thi jis ke liye main ne poocha ke aap ka kia maslak hai kion ke aap hanafiat ke bhi mukhalifat main likh rahye hain (yaqeenan sirf kisi risala se jo ke kisi qisim ke tehqeeq ke bajaye sirf mukhalifat-e-Islaf main hai….. Janab Saeedi sahib zara tehqeeq kerlain phir jawab dain, agar koi jawab is waqat na ho to main thora wait kar sakta ton lakin jaldi main koi jawab na dain, meharbani hogi Abdul Salam -
Mazeed Aik Sawal 1) Kia Hazrat Ali ki fazilat ya Taqat Hazoor-e-Akram se ziyada hai???, Agar nahin to phir Janab Ahamd Raza khan sahib ki risala "Al-Aman Al-Aa'la" main "Nade Aliya" ya "Nade Ali" jo ke shiaon ke mashhoor dua hai ka zikar kion hai? kia woh is se la ilm thye ke ye dua aik jhooti Hadith ke mutabiq Gazwa-e-Tabook ke moqe per Hazoor-e-Akram ke pass Hazrat Jibrail leker aaye they jis main un se Hazrat Ali ko pukarnye aur madad karnye ke liye kaha gaya hai,,,,, is ke pehlye misrye ke mutabiq! "Nade Aliya ya Mazharil Ajayeb" hain.... yani ke "Ali(RA) ko pukaro ke jis se ajayeb ka zahoor hota hai" kia is dua se Hazoor-e-Akram ki shan main gustakhi nahin ho rahi.....?
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Imam ke peechy Quran or Sure Fatiha ki tilawat nahin
Abdulsalam replied to Abdulsalam's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Janab Ghulam-e-Mustafa Pehlye bohat si posts main bayan ho chuka hai ke, humara sab se pehlye amal Quran-o-Hadith, secondly Aqwal-e-Sahaba , thrirdly Aqwal-e-Taabaeen then Aqwala-e-Taba-Taabaeen and is ke bawajoo kisi maslye ka hal na milye to phir ulama-e-Haq ke aqwal and aamal, jab Quran-o-Sunnat se koi baat sabit ho to phir hum kisi aur ke qol ke taraf nahin jatye and isi silsilye main kaha jaata hai ke humara amal Quran-o-Sunnat ke mutabiq hai jesa ke Quran main irshad-e-Bari Taa'la hai ke jab tumhain koi masala derpesh ho to un se maalom karo jo ilm walye hain, jesa ke Hadith se sabit hai ke jab nas na milye to aqwal se then qayas se kam lena..... to hamara amal kis per hoa... yaqeenan Quran-o-Hadith per kisi dosrye per nahin..... ab rahi aap ke baat to janab aap ko aap ke ulama, kitabon, aqwal se sabit kerdiya ke Fatiha khalful Imam zaroori hai (ab ye aapo un se bhi poochyen ke kion) to aap akhir main "Tareeye" per aagaye? jab aap ko ye pata hai ke nas na milnye ki soorat main aqwal-e-Sahaba, Aqwal-e-Tabaeen, and Taba-Tabaeen se hujjat pakarni hai to phir tareeqye ki behas kesi, unhi aqwal se ye sabit hai, baqi rahi sahi hadith to janab aap ko bhi pata hai ke hadith se jab kisi masalye ka intambat kia jata hai tu main tamam ke tamam alfaz ka wo hi hona zaroori nahin... lehaza Quran ko Ahista Ahista (Ther Ther ker) parha Ayat e Qurani and Hadit se sabit hai, (Hazrat Ayesha ke hadith Bukhari main Namaz main aik kefiyat se dosri kefiyat main dakhil honye per aitadal karna Hadith se sabit hai, (Hazoor-e-Akram ke namaz sikhanye wali hadith bukhari main) ab aap ko kia kahon apni baat manwanye ke liye kahan tak chalye gaye aap, tamam atraf se aankhyen band kerlieen..... ? Afsoos Sad Afsooos kia aap yahan is tarha apni la-ilmi sabit nahin kar rahye? Allah se dua hai ke tamam logon ko Haq ke pehchan ata karye, humain aur aap ko Iman per khatma bilkhair ataa' farmaye Allah Ghalation ko muaf farmaye Abdul Salam -
Janab "Ya-Rasool-Madad" sahib Welcome to my post thaks for joing us here and reading the truth about the aqeedah and ama'al Janab Sybarite Jesa ke main ne pehlye kaha ke "Barsabeel-e-Tazkarah bilkul karonga (Insha Allah ) aap ke dosri batain (sawalat) bhi perh leiye they lehaza un ka bhi jawab de donga lakin is waqat nahin bulkye pehlye wait karonga ke koi ail ghair muqallid ke sawalat ka jawab to dye phi us per baat kernye ke baad (Insha Allah ) Abdul Salam
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Dr. Zakir Naik ki Taubah aur Iqraar-e-Kufr
Abdulsalam replied to Ghulam e Azhari's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Janab...... kia hi baat ki,,,,,,, kia aap samajhtye hain ke in batoon ka jawab nahin de sakta?, yaqenan de sakta hon (Insha Allah) lakin moamla ye hai ke jab insan nafrat karta hai to wo bhool jata hai ke sahi kia hai and ghalat kia hai............ agar aap waqai ilm walye (educated in deen and dunya both) hain to yaqeenan samajh janyengye.... warna Allah aap ka Hafiz o asir hai......! gandi zehenyiat ya aqayaed kis ke hain ye to batanye ke liye merey kuch sawalaon ke jawab to aap loog de nahin sakye, ab aap in baton ko ganda hi kehaingye (Yahood, Hanood, Nasranion ke naqshe qadam per chaltye hoye) warna ye sari (jo humara Aqeeda hai) wo to Shaba Tabaeen, Taba-Tabaeen, Ulama-e-Haq, Aaima Arba' ka aqeeda hai and bohat si jagha per to khud aap ke ulama ka....... kya kia jaye.........?? jab saboot pesh kartain hain to kehtye ho ke un ko chorain....... koi dakhal andazi hoi hai is tasneef main ya inn se ye qol mansoob hi nahin.... wah........ lakin ye nahin batatye ke phir sahi nuskha, ya qol kahan se kis ke sanad se milye ga........? mainne yahan per jo kuch bhi post kia hai us ko agar bugz ke chashma ko nikal ker dekha jaye to haq wazeh ho jata hai...... and us per amal kernye walye log hi bata saktye hain ke kahan tak kon ghalat hai.......zaroori nahin ke is main haar ya jeet ka faisla ho....... agar ye baat meri ghalat hai to apnye ulama se hi pooch lain well main apney sawalat ab urdu main psot kernye jaraha hon agar jawab de sakain to zaroor dain phir is per behtar tareeqye se baat ho gi Abdul Salam -
Imam ke peechy Quran or Sure Fatiha ki tilawat nahin
Abdulsalam replied to Abdulsalam's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
ye kesi baat kardi aap ne "Keemya-e-Saadat" ko choro, janab ye to hum hain jo kehtye hain ke humarye ulama ke bat us waqat tak daleel nahin hosakti jab tak ke sabit na hojaye ya us waqat jab us ke mukhalifat main kuch na milye jab aap ko aapki hi kitabon se dikhaya to khas Daleel ki zaroorat per gai.......??? ye agar pehlye apnye ulama se mang letye (Ayaat,sahi Hadith, Qol, Sanad,) to ye sab maslye hotye hi nahin...... merye sawalat "sawalat from A Ghair muqalid" abhi tak tashna hain kab tak wait karon?????? Yani ke aap yahan tak to maan gaye ke Ftiha zaroori hai, bus aab tareeqye ke jis se muqtadi phir sorah fatiha perhlye chahiye to aap phir completly maan laingye, Allah ka lakh lakh shukar hai well insha Allah zaroor donga Hazoor ki namaz ke tareeqye se, mukhtalif Ahadith, Aqwal se, Han agar na mannye ki than hi li hai to bata do, phir khoa makhoah koshish nahin karonga Abdul Salam -
Janab Sybarite and Ghulam-e-Mustufa sahib jesa ke main ne kaha ke" Mujhye waqai faraq nahin perta ke main Ghusl-e-Kaa'ba ki koi daleel laon ya na laon" to main apni baat per abhi tak (filhal) qayeem hon... lehaza is cheez main waqt barbad karna merye nazdeek sahi nahin, han agar barsabeel-e-tazkarah dalil zaroor post kar doonga (Insha Allah), Abdul Salam
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Dr. Zakir Naik ki Taubah aur Iqraar-e-Kufr
Abdulsalam replied to Ghulam e Azhari's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Janab "Shamsheer-e-Ala Hazrat" sahib merye khayal main aap ke Bareli ke ulama ko ilm nahin ya shaid khas tor per sarf-e-nazar kia hai ke bawjood tahreeri Tauba ke aap ke ulama ne Mr. Zakir Naik per Kufr ka fatwa laga diya........ wah wha......? jab koi aap ke Hadaiq-e-Bakhshish ke Jama ker ke tasneef ko denye walye ke tehriri toba per aitraz kernyw walye ko jawab detye hain ke "kia toba ka darwaza band ho gaya?" and ab aap ke ulama ka dosroon ke liye apne he alfaz se ikhtilaf ? Dosri taraf, ye tamam fatawaye ke mukhtalif juz ka jawab mukhtalif waqton main isi site per di ja chukeen hain agar bhool gaye hon to "waseela, kia murdye suntye hain, Qabron ki ziyarat, waghera ke post zaroor perhain, baqi rahye baqool aap ke humarye ulama ka kehna, amal ya yaqeen... to janab hum ye keh chukye hain ke Ahl-e-Hadith apnye ulama ke nahin suntye hain bulke wo mantye, suntye hain jo Qurani Ayat, Sahi Ahadith, Aqwal-e-Sahaba ke suntye hain lehaza humarye ulama ki baat humarye liye hujat nahin hai, Abdul Salam -
sirf aik jawab, "jab aap ne haq ko pehchan liya to aap ko khud baghair kisi daleel ke ye maloom ho jayega ke kis qisim ki ghair zaroori dalil mang rahye hain aap" merye bas main yaqeenan nahin kisi ko rah-e=rast per lana, Sirf Allah hi hidayat denye wala hai mujhye is se waqai faraq nahin perta ke main Ghusl-e-Kaaba ki koi dalil laon ya na laon, jis cheez ki zaroorat hai us per hi tehqeeq kar raha hon, Allah ka lakh lakh shukar hai Abdul Salam
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Imam ke peechy Quran or Sure Fatiha ki tilawat nahin
Abdulsalam replied to Abdulsalam's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
1) "Quran ko ahista ahista ther ther kar parho" 2) "Hazoor-e-Akram ki aadat mubarika thi Quran ko ahista ahista perhnye ki" 3) "Hazoor-e-Akram aik surah se doosri surah ke milane ke waqat waqfa kartye thye" 4) "Namaz ke aik position se doosri position main jatye hoye waqfa detye thye" in sab ke ilawa ye hadith hi is silsilye main kafi hai ke Namaz Sorrah Fatiha ke baghair nahin hoti se mil jata hai ke Muqtadi jo ke late aaya hai wo kis tarha fatiha ko tilawat kar sakta hai, Doosri taraf is silsilye main jab koi sarihan nas na milye to (jo ke aap bhi kahye gay ke hum is ko nahin man saktye) to Aqwal-e-Sahaba, Tabaeen, se rujoo karna chahiye Teesri taraf again hum to ye tareeqa hi kartye hain han agar aap ko maloom karna hai to please read Keemya-e-Saadat az Imam Ghazali, Fasal Namaz, Transalted by M Saeed Ahmad Naqashbandi, Allah ghalation ko muaf farmaye (Aameen) Abdul Salam -
Janab aap ne shaid and yaqeenan meri isi silsilye ko teesri post nahin parhi behar hal phir pesh karta ho (is ke ilawa aap jin ko mantye hian us se naqal shuda aik aur jagha warid hoa hai ke "Allah Arash per mustavi hai, lakin kisi bhi kefiyat ke bagaihr kion ke wo Allah Arash se pehlye bhi tha and ab bhi hai and us ka amar, qudrat tamam ashia ko ghare(cover) kiye hoye hai" Keemiya-e-Saa'dat, imam Ghazali translated by Mohammad Saeed Ahmed Naqshbandi, Khateeb Masjid Data Ganj Bukhsh Lahore, Matbooa 1986) Further humye bhi is silsilye main khamoosh rehnye ka hukum hai) na ke kuch khoj laganye ka,,, lakin aap.................. is iqrar ko kufr qarar de rahye hain (aap ka aik jawan) Imam Gazali (RAH) ke mutabiq jis ne Allah ke mojod honye ke baraye main kaha "La'Adri" (nahin maloom) to us ne kufr kia kion ke Allah ne khud kaha ke wo Arsh per mustavi hai (Imam Ghazali translated by Mohammad Saeed Ahmed Naqshbandi, Khateeb Masjid Data Ganj Bukhsh Lahore, Matbooa 1986) main makan Quran ke mutabiq bata raha hon, lakin Naooz-o-Billah min Zalik mehdood nahin kar raha Allah mujhye muaf karye Abdul Salam
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Meelad ke naam per jo kuch hota hai us ki wajah Meelad hi hai na..... mujhye bolnye ki zarorat nahi baat kahi se kahin chali jaye gee, jab meelad ko apnye mangharat dalail se sabit karlia to Giyarhween bhi jayez......? jawab wo hi pehli line walal.....! Zara ye zaroor dekhain ke main ne Gusle-Kaaba kaha hai na ke sirf Kaaba mere khiyal main itni urdu to aati hi hogi....... phir bhi jawab yahi hai ke main is ka jawab dhoondh raha hon, dont think i'm trying to runaway..... main Insha Allah ghar ponhcha kar hi dam longa Abdul Salam
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Imam ke peechy Quran or Sure Fatiha ki tilawat nahin
Abdulsalam replied to Abdulsalam's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
In Sari batoon ka aik matlab ke aap ke mangharat Owlia Allah, Allah ki tarha kuch maslihatan chor detain hain??? warna un ki taqat to aik aap ke wali ke mutabiq ke "aik aowrat (lady) ko kaha ke tumhaye naseeb main Allah ne Larki likhi thi main ne loh-e-Mehfooz main us ko tabdeel ker ke larka lith diya" sahi hawala baad amin donga warna yaqeenan aap ko to maloom hi hoga is ka matlab ye hai ke khud aap ke ulama, walion, imamon(jo faiha to wajib/farz mantye hain imam ke peecheye bhi perhnye ko) unhon ne bhi aap ke paish kiye hoye Quran-o-Hadith se rud gurdani ki aur wo baat manli jo ke ghalat thi.....? lakin nahin aysa nahin hai bulke unhon ne jaan liya tha ke Haq kia hai, ab aap ya to Abdul Qadir Jeelani, Imam Ghazalai, Imam Shaarani, Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Muhammad, mukhtalif ulama, Sahi Hadith, Qurani Aaya ko chor ker apnye aik tang per kharye rahain aur sab ko ghalat kahain.... bhai sahib faroi ikhtlaf nahin ye wajoob(khalful imam) ka masala hai jis se namaz ki sehat per asar perta hai, faroi ka taluq dosra hota hai us main faraz ya wajibat discuss nahin hotye, bulke nafil, mustahib, mubah, makroh, fazail discuss hotye hain is ki tashreeh.... janab is ki kisi qisim ke tashreeh chahiye to Usool-e-Karkhi uthao mujh se kia poochtye ho, kion ke kar to wahi rahye ho, to wajah bhi maloom ho jayegi, our ilzam ka pata bhi chal gaye ga. warna sabit karo ke ye aap nahin mantye and ayesa aap nahin kertye? shaid wajib us ko kehtye hain ke jis ke na kernye se namaz ka duhrana zaroori hota hai (us sameek), agar bhool jain to Sajda-Sahaw kertye hain? if yes to aap wajib kaho ya phir faraz magar mano zaroor, and maan to liya hai lakin qabool kernye se dartye hain..... un sab ka jawab sirf aik tha ke ayat bilkul sahi, Hadith kuch Zaeef, kuch Mozo, and agar kuch sahi to in tamam main istadlal ghalat, ye sirf main nahin lehta bulke aap ke ulama bhi, imam, wali bhi kehtye hain Yaar kion aik maslye main khood ku haq per sabith kernye ke liye jhoot per jhoot, be buniyad batoon, ghalat istadlal ka sahara le rahye ho, agar aap humari koi baat nahin mantye to na mano lakin apnye ulama jin ko Goth pak, Imam Ghazali, Imma Shaarani, kehtye ho un ke baat to mano, main ne aaj tak, ya hum main se aaj tak kisi ne is matlab main ye nahin kaha ke humare liye Allah hi kafi hai,,, kion ke hum achi tarha jantye and mantye hain ke Quran humain Sahib-e-Quran se mila, jis ke tafseer aap ke baad sahaba ne humain baatai.... phir ye sirf aik ilzam hai, rahi us ayat ki ke jis main Hazoor-e-Akram se Allah ne kaha ke "farma dijiye ke mere liye sirf Allah hi kafi hai" to janab zara us ki tafseer uthain to maloom hoga ke wo muqa-mahal kia tha and kin se kehnye ko kaha gaya tha... Reply dekh ker socha ke koi dalil ke sath jawab milye ga lakin yahan to istafsarat hoye, ghalat to apni hi kitabon ko keh nahin saktye aap..... kia kiya jayeee main phir bhi salamti ki dua deta hon ke aap per Allah salamti karye (jo ke Hazoor-e-Akram ke mutabik har sakh ke haq main karni chahiye), and gair muslim ya mushrik ke sawal ke jawab main "Waalekum" ke agar wo koi ghalat baat (humqafia) kahye to us per ulta wapis kerdain.. Abdul Salam -
ye tafseer ke Allah Arsh per mustavi hai kisi kefiyat bayan kiye baghair to janab ye Tafseer Ibn-e-Kaseer se biyan ki hai, is ke ilawa aap jin ko mantye hian us se naqal shuda aik aur jagha warid hoa hai ke "Allah Arash per mustavi hai, lakin kisi bhi kefiyat ke bagaihr kion ke wo Allah Arash se pehlye bhi tha and ab bhi hai and us ka amar, qudrat tamam ashia ko ghare(cover) kiye hoye hai" Keemiya-e-Saa'dat, imam Ghazali translated by Mohammad Saeed Ahmed Naqshbandi, Khateeb Masjid Data Ganj Bukhsh Lahore, Matbooa 1986) Further hum bhi is silsilye main khamoosh rehnye ka hukum hai yahan ye bhi wazeh kar dena chahta hon ke aap ke aik jawan ne kaha the ke Allah ko Arash per hone ka iqrar karna "Kufr" hai lehaza in tamam baton ka maqsad Allah ke liye makan sabit karna nahin bulke is ka iqrar hai ke Wo Allah arsh per musavi hai lakin wo har jagha main halool kiye hoye nahin hai Keemiya-e-Saa'dat, imam Ghazali translated by Mohammad Saeed Ahmed Naqshbandi, Khateeb Masjid Data Ganj Bukhsh Lahore, Matbooa 1986 Abdul Salam
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Imam ke peechy Quran or Sure Fatiha ki tilawat nahin
Abdulsalam replied to Abdulsalam's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Jahan kar raha aap ke Saeedi bhai ke jawab ka masala to janab zara ghor farmain ke wo to keh rahye hain ke "Dil main fatiha perh lini chahiye na ke zuban se??????" agar ye baat aap ya aap ke tamam ashab pehli post main man jatye to shaid hum yahan per further baat nahin ker rahye hotye kion ke aap ke nazdeek, pehlye to parha hi ghalat, secondly jo parhye us ke mun main angarye, third apnye tamam ulama, buzurgon ki tehqeeq ko thukratye hoye apni baat per arye rehna....... Rahi baat Zaban se na perhnye ki and dil main perh lenye ki to janab zara us page ko dobara dekhain jis main main ne Bukhari Shareef ka page post kia hai us main is ke hal mill jayga Aap ka bohat bohat shukariya ke aap ne and aap ke saeedi bhai ne wajoob ka iqrar kar liya, yaqeenan aap ub har namaz main sora fatiha (muqtadi hone ki sorat main) zaroor perhaingye (chahye dil main perhain ya zuban se perhain) is baat ka mtlab kisi qism ki shikast na li jaye balke ye batana maqsad hai ke jo log is ke shiddat se mukhalif hain wo bhi zara khayal rakhian. Abdul Salam -
Imam ke peechy Quran or Sure Fatiha ki tilawat nahin
Abdulsalam replied to Abdulsalam's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Farar....? janab zara ghor se dekhain, main ne kia apni pichee posts main kia post hai, Ghuniyatuttaleben se iqtibas, Keemya-e-Saadat se iqtibas, and in sub se pehlye Quran se saboot, us ke baad Hadit (sahi) se saboot, aik aur cheez agar aap ke nazdeek tamam Imam (4 Imam, Shaa'fai, Maliki, Humbali, Hanafi) sahi hain (Haq per hain) to Shaafai, Humbali, Maliki Fatiha Khalful Imam ko mantye hain to phir aap kion nahin mante, isi liye na ke Imam Abu Hanifa nahin mantye, yaani meri baat sahi hai Usool-e-Karkhi ke mutabiq "agar koi Hadith ya Ayat Qol-e-Imam ke mukhalif ho to us aayat ya hadith to mansookh samjha jayega or Qol-e-Imam ko rajeh" zara mere sawalon ka jawabat to dain jo main ne post keye hain as "Sawalat from a Ghair Muqallid" to janab zara is hadith ko Bukhari-o-Muslim main dekhain and tafseelan dekhain phir zara yahan bayan karain ke asal waqia kia hai, jahan tak mere naqis ilm ka taaluq hai Hazoor-e-Akram ne Hazrat Abu Bakar ko namaz ki imamat ko jari rakhnye ka ishara kia tha, Wa-Allah-o-Aalam bis Sawab. jahan tak ye zikr ke Hanafi Ulama ne jo fatiha ke wajoob ka iqrar kia hai wo sab sofi thye ya hanafi they to humarye silsilye main hujjat nahin....... to janabe man main kab keh raha hon ke wo humarye liye hujjat ahin, main to ye keh raha hon ke janab wo bhi aap ke hi hum maslak hain lakin wo mantye hain, and aap bhi un ki hi mantye hain... lakin wajoob-e-fatiha se phir bhi inkar?? kia ye hat dharmi nahin....... humarye liye Quran phir Hadith phir Aqwal-e-Sahaba phir is ke bawajood koi nas na milye to aqwal-e-Taabaenn and un ke manne walye hi kafi hain Abdul Salam -
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Waseela ..Moved Topic from Wahabion kay Masail
Abdulsalam replied to Ya Mohammadah's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Janab Sag-e-Raza sahib yahan jawab ka intezar hai na ke kisi doosri baat ka, warna aap jo alfaz istimal kertye hain woh to mujhye bhi aatye hain. lakin khair.... Acha aik kam karain, apnye un ulama, imam, buzargon ka name batain jin ki har baat aap ke nazdeek sahi hai…. Main ya to un ki hi kitabon se aap ko un ka aqeeah dikhaonga ya phir Quran-o-Sunnat and saleheen aqwal ki roshni main un ka aqedah ghalat dikhaonga (Insha Allah ) keeping in mind that we don't belive that our ulama is Hujjat or always right. han un ka aqeedah, un ke amaal taqreeban sahi hain jis ke wajha se un ko ulma-e-ahl-e-hadith kaha and mana jata hai. Abdul Salam -
Janab Ghulam-e-Mustafa and Janab Umer Taj Attari sahib wesye to main is ko findout kernye ki koshish kar raha hon, lakin sare-dast ye zaroor batana chahta hon ke Bidaa't har us cheez ko kehtye hain jo ke deen main dakhil ki jaye (shayed aap bhool gaye they).. lehaza zara ye batain ke kia kisi bhi maslak ke aalim ne ye baat deen ke izafe se jori (Ghusal-e-Kaa'ba)? agar nahin to bhir ye bidaa't nahin. (kion ke iska taa'luq deen ke mukammal honye se hai na ke duiya ke lehaz se, warna har nai ejad(invention) and har naya tareeqa bidaa't kelaye ga and Hadith (agar ghalat matlab liya jaye) ki roo se bidaa't "zalalat" hai and zalalat "gumrahi") Is ke liye mujhye ya aap ko kahin or janye ke zaroorat nahin apnye hi aalimo ke bidaa't ke tareef un ki kitabon se maloom kerlain to behtar hoga.. Abdul Salam
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Janab mujhye ye qabool kernye se koi aa'r nahin ke meri nazar boat kharab hai main door ki nazar ka chashma bhi lagata hon lehaza baraye meharbani apnye sawalat dobara post karain nawazish hogi. Abdul Salam
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Dr. Zakir Naik ki Taubah aur Iqraar-e-Kufr
Abdulsalam replied to Ghulam e Azhari's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Janab is se pata chalta hai ke main ne sahi kaha tha ke aap ka qalam uthta hai to sirf Deobandion ke khilaf ya phir ahle-hadith ke khilaf. Warna kuch aur kawishain hain to zaroor batain.. intezar rahega… Jis ne islam me shirk ki nai taareef muaarif kari. Ye tareefain aap ke ulaama, Imam (Imam Abu Hanifa (RAH)) and Abdul Qadir Jeelani (RAH) ke kitabon se sabit hai. Jis ka zikar karnye per aap logon ne un ki tasneef amin is baat (aqeeda) ke hone se inkar hi kardiya hai… Acha aik kam karain, apnye un ulama, imam, buzargon ka name batain jin ki har baat aap ke nazdeek sahi hai…. Main ya to un ki hi kitabon se aap ko un ka aqeeah dikhaonga ya phir Quran-o-Sunnat and saleheen ke roshni main un ka aqedah ghalat dikhaonga (Insha Allah (AZ)) jis ne apne se pehle aur moojuda sab musalmaanoon ko kafir, mushrik aur bidaati bana diya. hum to Saleheen ke baaad, anye walye un tamam logon ki sahi mantye hain jin ka amal Quran-o-Sunnat ke munafi nahi. Jin ka bhi Quran-o-Sunnat ke munafi hai un ko ghalat mantye hain.. ab aap ko is se hi pareshani hai to main kia kar sakta hon. jis ne Shaiir e islaam ka khulam khulla rad kia aur un ko khatam karne ke aaj bhi dar pe hai. Agar aap ke nazdeek Shaa’re Islam wo hain jo aap ka Aqeeda hai to han hum us ka rad kartye hain, is silsilye main mere sawalat already posted hain baraye beharbani jawab zaroor dain jis ne British se mil ke islaam ki jaroon tak ko hilaney ki koshish ki aur jari hai. Hum to who hain jo Awal zamanye se leker aaj tak all ghair muslim hukomaton, fojon and un ke plans ke khilaf barsar-e-Pekar hain,, aap zara apni kisi Jihadi tanzeem ka naam bata dain aur ye bho bata dain ke us ka aqeedah kia tha. jis ne Sub-coninent me bhi British ki itaat ko wajib kaha. is ka jawab uoper wala hi jis ne Jahad jab british ke mukhalif tha to haram, aur jab naam nihad jihad kia to Amreca ko khush karne ke liye. Is ka jawab bhi uooper wala hi hai. jis ne Jews ko islam pe hamla karne ka jawaz faraham kia. Jawaz kia tha, kab diya tha kon involve that zara hawalye ya at least naam hi bata dain Jis ne hijaz e Muqadas per ghasibana Qabsa jamaya. Zara hawala dedain, jesa ke mere ilm main aisi koi baat nahin jis ne musalmanoon ka qatale aam kia. is silsilye main bhi koi tareekhi hawala dain, is ke ilawa kia is ki soorat main kisi Ahl-e-Hadith aalim ya awam ne is ko sahi kaha tha.. agar han to baraye meharbani ye bata dain ke kahan kaha tha, kis kitab ya news paper main kaha tha…. jis ne Rooza e Rasool ko girane ki Naapaaak jasarat ki. Is Siltsilye main sirf mujhye ya to aik Shia alim ki history ki kitab milti hai ya phir kisi tasawoof se mutasir shuda bandy ke… is ke ilawa ghair muslim ke baton ka yaqeen kar saktye hain agar koi sabot ho to jis ne harameen me se shirk aur bidaat ke naam pe tamam nishanaat e qaroon esilasa ko mita dala. Is silsilye main Hazrat Ali ke Amal ko kia kahyengaye, jinhon ne Hazoor-e-Akram ke hokum ke mojib qabristan ke tamam Qubon ko gira / braber ker diya tha. Lakin is ka maqsad ye nahin ke is amal ko shai keh raha hon kion ke agar sirf nishanat ko mita ya tha to ub loog kesye yad rakhtye hain and still ziyarat ko jatye hain.. Jis ne islam me azaad khiyali ko faroogh dia. Dunia ke mutabiq hum wo log hain jo shiaon, sofion, kafrion, per sab se ziyada shaded hain. Fundamentalist hain, to aap ke mutabiq azaad khiyali kis to kehtye hain zara batain tp. jis ne Quran o Hadeess Ko apni aqal ke mutabiq samajhne pe zoor dia. Hum sirf ur sirf Salf ki tafseer karda Qurani and Hadithon ke matalib ko mantye hain na ke aap kisi bandye ki khud ki lafzi tarjuma ya tafseer ko.. agar aisa hai to zara batain (shaid aap bata hi na sakain)(Insha Allah). Jab ke aap ke nazdeek Quran ke aik zahiri meanings hain and aik Batini (tasawoof ki istalah,) to kon kia kar raha hai??? jis ne Anbia aur Aulia Ki Shaan me Ghustakhion ke Sabqa tammam Records toorr diye. Agar aap ke nazdeek ulama Mansoor Hallaj, Ibne Arabi, Afifuddin Talmisani and is jesye or log hain to yes hum kartye hain ki shan main gustakhi.. and kion na karain?? Jawab hai to do main bhi donga (Insha Allah). Jahan tak baat rahi anbia ki to janab zara soch ker batain ke kis aalim ne kahan, kis kitab main, kis taqreer main, kisi news paper main gustakhi ki hai agar nahih de saktye to ye zaroor khayal rakhain ke aap ilzam tarashi (Buhtan) ke murtakib ho rahye hai and hadith-e-Pak ke mutabiq Butan lagana Gheebat se bhi bara and Gunah-e-Kabeera main shumar hota hai. Jis ne Markaz e Islam me Ghasibana Qabza jama kar Musalmanoon Ko Mutihd hone se Rok dia. Zia Ul Haq ked or main Shah Faisal ne tamam musalmano ko aik platform per jama kernye kii koshish ko this and is main almost kamyab bhi o gaye the and isi doran Zia Ul Haq ko Mosad ne marwadia tha… zara ye bhi bata dain ke aap ke nazdeek aisa kab hoa Jis ne Tail ke zakhair hath ane par tamam tar Zar e Mubadila America Muntakil kar dia(7.5 % of American Economy). It is political decision not the religious, kia kisi aalim ne is ke haq main kuch kaha, agar han to hawal zaroor dain jis ne Kuffar Ko Arab me Musalmanon ke khilaf sazishoon ke natije me Apni hifazat ke liye kuffar ko chowkidari ki ijazat di. is ki bohat lambi kahani hai yahoodi reshadawanion ki zara tareekh uthayen maloom ho jayega. Secondly ye aik political decision he na ke religious. kia kisi aalim ne is ke haq main kuch kaha, agar han to hawal zaroor dain Jis ne Arab me fahasi ke addey khol diey. Zara kuch naam to bata dain kon log hain kahan inhon ne is qisim ke addye kholye hain In sab baton ke baad ye to saaf zahir hai ke aap ke pas Ahl-e-Hadith ulama ke khilaf ke ilawa kuch bhi nahin Meri guzarish still same hai ke agar hai to pesh karain, and agar koi kar rhah hai to khamoosh rahain kion ke agar aap us ke khilaf ho jayingye to aap bhi ghair muslim ke sathi he kehlayengye Main ne to aap ko din bandhye honye wali sari hawalye de diye aap ne kia diya Lakin aik din ghalat ho gaya ke “Mardon ka Sobai Satha ka ijtima har Jumerat (Thursday) ko hota hai faizan-e-Madina main” Abdul Salam -
Imam ke peechy Quran or Sure Fatiha ki tilawat nahin
Abdulsalam replied to Abdulsalam's topic in فتنہ وہابی غیر مقلد
Janab Ya Mohammadah sahib, jesa ke main ne is post main Goth Qutub ke tareef bayan ki hai jo ke aap ke hi mashoor kibaon se iqtibas shuda hai, jis main ye bhi kaha gaya hai ke Baqool Goth sahib ke "MAIN MEHFOOZ HON" (jub ke hum to ye mantye hi nahin ko unhon ne khud ko kabhi goth kaha ho ya woh wahi tabhi kahi ho jo barelvi and deobandi ulama ne us se mansoob kar rakhi hai) to phir un ki kitab main kisi ka dakhal karna kia un ki shan ko ghatana to nahin..... jab ke aap ke nazdeek goth sahin abhi tak zinda hain..ab un kia ye nahin chahiye tha ke apni (mafooq-ul-Fitrat, takweeni taqat) taqat se is ko bachatye ya phir un tamam kitabon ko khatam kerdetye ya phir kisi tarha us ka rad kartye???? kia is silsilye main aap ke KHOABON KO SHARIAT KA DARJA DENYE WALYE HAZRAT KE KHUAB BHI KHAMOOSH HAIN??? chalain aik aor baat aap ko batata chaloon jo ke abhi just pichli post main janab ghulam-e-mustufa ko diya ahi ke, "Janab Imam Ghazali (RAH) ke mashoor kitab Keemia-e-Saa'dat main likha hai ke Namaz main rafayadain kia jaye and Fatiha zaroor perhi jaye and agar koi der se jamat main shamil hoa hai to jo tareeqa main ne uooper pesh kia us tariiqe se sorrat and rooku main jaya jaye" (Keemia-e-Saa'dat, Transalted by Muhammad Saeed Ahmed Naqshbandi (Khateeb masjid Data Ganj Bukhs Lahoor, Matbooa 1986,) ab kia kia jaye ye to aap ke hi maktabye fikr ke hamil aik sahib jo ke khateeb-e-masjid Data Ganj Bukh Lahoor bhi hain ka tarjuma hai, ya yahan bhi koi daa'wa mojood hai is ke ghalat honye ya kisi ke ghalat batoon ke dakhil kerdenye ka Abdul Salam