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  1. Salam alayqum meri behan Donoon halatoon meh wuzu nahin toot-ta. Wuzu khoon behnay yehni khoon zakham say nikal kar jism kay dosray hissay par paunchay toh wozoo toot-ta heh. Sirf agar zakham meh jama rahay toh wuzu tootta nahin magar jism kay us hissay ko dohna behtr heh. Rafa e hajat kee donoon halatoon meh yehni chota/bara peshab kay basat toot-ta heh. Ya phir khawand aur biwi ka azwaji talluq qaim kernay say toot-ta heh. Aur aurat kay makhsoos dinoon kay shoroon hona ka joh sign hota heh us say be toot-ta heh. Meri behan behtr hoga agar aap kissi Islami behan say yeh sawal poochen woh
  2. Introduction: Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab’s Qawa’id Al Arba is the Takfir manual for heretics. This little book introduces all heretics to the art of making everyone Mushrik. The focus of this article would be to explain the evidences which Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab utilized to establish the rules in his second principle. This will serve two main objectives; 1) this will allow the readers to know the subject matter of the issue in detail, 2) and once the correct understanding these verses realized by the readers then it will be easier to see the trick being played. The Second Princip
  3. Salam alayqum, English discussion has been discontinued in this thread. Instead I have created the following thread for the discussion: Hadhir Nazir (Shahid/witness) Discussion With Haq3909. I Have Started Pasting My Response In The Above Thread.
  4. You quoted the Hadith and wrote [in red]: “Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger having said this: Two are the types of the denizens of Hell whom I did not see: people having flogs like the tails of the ox with them and they would be beating people, and the women who would be dressed but appear to be naked, who would be inclined (to evil) and make their husbands incline towards it. Their heads would be like the humps of the bukht camel inclined to one side. They will not enter Paradise and they would not smell its odour whereas its odour would be smelt from such and such distance.” [Arabic: S
  5. You wrote in response to my quote: Furthermore you said: "There are two possible things which you may have alluded to one, angels saying Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam): "Don't you know what they did after you!" and this issue has thoroughly answered and explained in this dicussion: http://www.islamimehfil.com/topic/19739-hadhir-nadhir-objection/ .[...] [bukhari Volume 8, Book 76, Number 584] […] [sahih Muslim Book 040, Number 6847] […] So the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was’sallam) did recognize them, so they could not be disbelievers, rather were people he knew, and he did not know wha
  6. Firstly the hadith states two upon receiving the bowl Tamim ad-Dari (radiallah ta’ala anhu) and Adi bin Badda which was sold for the price of ONE thousand Dirhams. This one thousand Dirhams were divided by them which if divided between the two would be five hundred Dirhams each. Tamim ad-Dari (radiallah ta’ala anhu) returned his share to the family who the money belonged. The amount which he should have returned should be what he received by selling the bowl i.e. five-hundred Dirhams but the figure which he returned is stated to be fifty-thousand Dirhams and also note from Adi bin Badda it is
  7. << Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) gave interpretation of the verse but did he negate the hearing and seeing type of witnessing? Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) stated people will bear witness in defence of Prophets and he will bare witness upon the people. How does that mean Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) is not hearing seeing type of witness? How does the understanding that Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) was sent as a hearing seeing type of witness go against the Tafsir which Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) gave? Comming to the point in which Prophe
  8. My Latest Response To Haq3909. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It seems that your feeble mind is unable to keep track of the discussion in its context. This same thing happened in the other discussion: http://www.islamimehfil.com/topic/20344-discussion-hadhir-nadhir/ In post 11 note I am lamenting that brother keep my comments in the context of discussion. Fact is that any discussion will divide into sub discussions which are related to main discussions. As this happens it is important
  9. Salam alayqum, Jazakallah Khair moteram Saeedi Sahib Allah ta'ala aap ko jaza e khair aur aap kay Allah darajat aur buland karay, ameen.
  10. Post: #26 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم Dear MohammadAli, I will mostly ignore the first portion of your discussion since you weren't able to get the gist of my argument however I will address a few points which you have put forth.You said :"Who said it goes in favour and who presented it as evidence to prove Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) is a hearng seeing type of witness? No one, then why are you questioning me. I questioned you to establish your fault because you was using this Tafsir to refute seeing hearing type of witnessing of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) saying that a
  11. Post: #21 Your wrote: "I remember the same type of anaology was first put up by Mufti Ahmed Yar Khan Naeemi in His Ja Alhaq and similarly by Molvi Mohammad Umar Acharvi Sahab in his Miqiyas E Hanafiyat a long time ago and you seem to follow in their footsteps." Stating that I have followed the footsteps of Ulamah of Ahle Sunnat is no sufficent ground to reject what I have presented. I presume you intended to refute the creed of Muslims by writing the above because Wahhabi's and Deobandi's both are conditioned to refute the Ahle Sunnat by arguing you are only following ancestors. Commonly thes
  12. Post: #19 I don't think anyone with an ounce of brain will contest that Shahid means is one who is Hazir as well as Nazir. This is so basic and it was so undisputed that I doubt anyone ever even concieved challenging this prior to emergence of Wahhabism in India and Deobandism. In Taskeen al Khawatir Fi Masla Hadhir wa Nazir, the refferences are presented: http://www.mediafire.com/download/it10o181lsylm8k/taskeenul+khwater.pdf Is there any stronger proof then these two verses which prove Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) was sent as a hearing seeing type of witness: "O Prophet! T
  13. Post: #18 You questioned: "Did the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) approve of the hearing and seeing type of witnessing if not negate it?" No Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) did not explicitly state that he will be hearing seeing type of witness in that Tafsir. And why are you even asking me this question any way? Did I claim that this Tafsir of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) refutes those who say Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) is not Hazir Nazir? You employed the Tafsir issue: "Moreover our Holy Prophet Sallallaho Alayhi Wasallam has himself explained th
  14. Mr Haq3909 Did Not Format His Response Properly Hence To Make It Easier For The Readers To Distinguish Between What I Wrote And He Wrote I Formatted It On His Behalf. Post: #16 Did the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) approve of the hearing and seeing type of witnessing if not negate it? How does the understanding that Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) was sent as a hearing seeing type of witness go in favour of the Tafsir which Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) gave? I mean how can you deduce the meaning of Hazir o Nazir for the word "Shahid" from Prophet (sallallah
  15. Post: #13 Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) gave interpretation of the verse but did he negate the hearing and seeing type of witnessing? Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) stated people will bear witness in defence of Prophets and he will bare witness upon the people. How does that mean Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) is not hearing seeing type of witness? How does the understanding that Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) was sent as a hearing seeing type of witness go against the Tafsir which Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) gave? Comming to the point i
  16. Post: #10 Most of the material which you have brought up has been discussed in the following dicussion with a brother. Just visit the thread, and if you have any specific text, hadith, verse which you think is strong proof against Hadhir Nadhir please refer it to me via private message. Note I will not be dealing with copy paste jobs. I know exactly where you copied the English material from and trust me its not very impressive. For sake of your hereafter stop copy pasting material and give the brain a chance to understand the matters your self: http://www.islamimeh...-hadhir-nadhir/ Mos
  17. Please Open Another Tab With Same Thread And On It Click On The Links To View Them While You Read The Discussion. Alternatively Please Click On This Link And It will Take You Direct To The Post Where Images Are Visible; #3, Thank You.
  18. The following discussion took place here: #1 (please click to view the thread). The discussion on Hadhir Nazir (i.e. Shahid/Witnessing) of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) branched into two discussions. The main Urdu discussion was between learned and honourable brother Khalil Rana and our equally learned and honourable brother Saeedi and our Deobandi antagonist, Haq3909. May Allah reward both of them for their effort and elevate their ranks, Ameen, and guide brother Haq3909 to the understanding of Islam, Ameen. The English discussion was between my self and Mr Haq3909. It is essential t
  19. Is ko apnay haal par chor denh. Ek banda discuss karta heh toh mukhalifeen kay points ka jawab deta heh. Jab yeh pans jata heh toh chup ho jata heh aur intizar karta heh kay baat thori agay baray ya phir kissi point ko leh kar shoroon ho jata heh. Misaal kay tor par, Musalman hindu say kehta heh yeh idols tumaray khuda kesay hen yeh kuch be nahin kar saktay. Hindu khamosh rahay ... jab kohi likhay idols toh bot hen sab lartay keun nahin apis meh. toh phir wapis aa kar ... sab meh ittifaq heh, agar kohi kahay woh toh lartay thay tumaray mazhab meh yeh daleel heh ... phir chup ... musalman, gane
  20. Abh kush hen kuen kay aap nay apna damagh istimal karna shoroon ker deeya heh. Wesay aap ko kush hona chahyeh thah kay aap nay khud likha heh. but we are happy on your behalf. Lol!
  21. Salam alayqum, Hazrat yeh sahib CopyPaste wali sarkar hen, jab CopyPaste khatam toh yeh summun buqmun ho jahayn gay balkay ab ho chukay hen. Agar jawab deeya toh kissi aur kay qanday par rakh ker thop chalay gee. Jab inoon nay kuch likha toh meh aap ko jahan say yeh COPYPASTE keren gay woh aap ko website bata doon ga.
  22. Reading, makes you qualified to discuss with me? You can/t even read properly you dont know how to read properly. You couldnt wouldnt undrstand the chaper on Raf ul Yadain in Jaa Al Haq. Reading is not key, interpreting is the key to properly understanding a book. Lastly the sunnis present scanned pages, books are referenced, thats not plagiarism, there is diffrence between plagiarism and pasting scanned pages. Which Sunni here quoted a books scanned page and you or I or anyone else thought he wrote it. By copy pasting word for wrod fullstop to full stop without even declaring whre you got th
  23. Chor denh is ko, is dafa maaf ker denh is ko luzoom aur iltizam meh farq nahin pata. Balkay is ka matlab toh Haq Nawaz Jhangvi ko be nahin thah woh be Mualana Ashraf Ali Sehalvi (rahimullah) say munazray meh iltizam e kufr kee daleel mang raha tha luzoom e kufr kee nahin. Hazrat nay ek doh dafa samjaya kay luzoom yeh heh iltizam yeh heh ... phir kehnay laga mujjay bataho luzoom kis ko kehtay hen iltizam kia cheez heh ... war palat ker kernay laga halan kay ussay luzoom aur iltizam ka farq be nah pata thah. Is nay maan leeya heh Urdu achi tera nahin aati is leyeh is ko chor denh. Wesay mujjay y
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