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  1. Shut it imbecile, and let me finish my response, and then write your stupidities. You will have all time time to be stupid.
  2. Some aspects of the discussion were ambigous and not clearly stated. Hence I added elaborative words which reveal in which context the statements were about. You copy & pasted: “Quran also rejects the idea of Prophet peace be upon him being present and watching, Allah says in Surah al-Qasas addressing the Prophet peace be upon him (44. And you were not on the western side (of the Mount), when We made clear to Musa the commandment, and you were not among the witnesses.) (45. But We created generations, and long were the ages that passed over them. And you were not a dweller among the peopl
  3. Mian Muhammad Baksh (rehmatullah alayhi) Afif a Khari Shareef, nay khoob farmaya heh. Jin ahbab ko thori punjabi aati hogi un kay leyeh; Aamaan be-ikhlasan ander khasan dee gal karni, Mithi kheer paka Muhammad kutyan aggey dharni. Baqi aap khud samajdar hen ishara samaj gahay hoon gay. Forum meh behas o mubahisa kay kuch rules nahin hen, forum kay admin aur moderators say guzarish heh kay chand rules banahen jin say mubahisoon ka hasil faida mand ho. Kabi ek mozoo say idhar, udhar say idhar, joh pasand aya us par jawab aur jis par pans gaya us ko chor deeya.
  4. Introduction: Tawheed is one of the most fundamental teaching of Islam. All Prophets had different rules and regulations for their respective nations but the doctrine of Tawheed remained constant in their teaching. Each Prophet taught their Ummat to believe in Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) as their God and taught He alone should be worshipped and no god-partners of any type should be attributed to Him. Our Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was’sallam) emphasized the teaching of Tawheed in aspect of his daily life. Hence considering the importance of Tawheed effort was made to write a eloquent explanat
  5. Salam alayqum, Moteram Khalil baee in logoon kee aqaloon par tallay hen. Allah ta'ala aap kay darjaat buland karay aur aap ko aap kee mehnat ka behtreen sila deh ameen. Is ko istighatha ka lafz nahin mila ... yeh lafz dekh raha heh kay istighatha ka lafz nahin is leyeh keh raha heh istighatha ka saboot nahin. In ko kufr ki maut hee lafz martay hen yeh lafz dekhtay hen aur mafoom nahin, lafz nahin toh mafoom be nahin, yeh in ka asool heh.
  6. Salam alayqum, my brother mera nazria aur tehqeeq yahi heh kay jaandar kee tasweer haram heh chahay us meh jaan ho ya nah ho. Masla ikhtilafi heh is leyeh joh tehqeeq aap ko behtr aur baraheen e Quran o Hadith kay mutabiq lagay us ko apnahen, dosray position par tanqeed nah karen sirf apnay mowaqif kay mutabiq dalahil biyan karen, mukhalifeen par jara nah karen, is say joh fasad hoga us say ham bachen gay.
  7. I just completed my five articles on Qawa'id Al Arba's second principle, in sha Allah I will now start completing the response on Hadhir Nadhir. Thank you for your paitence Mr Haq3909.
  8. Introduction: Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab classified the intercession into two; 1) prohibited intercession and 2) permitted intercession. Both principles will be analyzed in the light of Quran/Sunnah to see if they have any basis in Islam and do these principles accord with teaching of Islam. The Second Principle Of Qawaid Al Arba: That they say: We do not call upon and turn towards them except to seek nearness and intercession. So the proof against seeking this nearness (through others like Awliyah) is the saying of the Most High: “And those who you take Awliyah besides Him (they say): ‘We w
  9. Salam alayqum, Meri behan, joh Kilk e Raza nay links deeyeh hen zeroor dekhyeh ga.
  10. Salam alayqum, Meri behan, halat badaltay aur phirtay rehtay hen. Hamesha kabi kush aur kabi gham be nahin rahay ga. koshish karen kay buzurgoon ki marzi ko saath mila kar kohi decision banahen. Matlab mother in law say pooch leeya, anti meri marzi toh yeh thee pakanay kee aap batahen aap kee marzi kia heh, chalen aaj aap kee marzi kay mutabiq kuch pakatay hen, buzurgoon ko saath laga kar chalen. Un kee baaz bateh na qabil e bardasht hoti hen magar phir thori umar dalnay kay baad banda samajta heh kay buzurg theek farmaya kartay thay. Meh jawani meh, abhi umar 36 saal kee heh, 14-25 saal k
  11. Jahil logh hen khafqat matana chahtay hen kissi tara say. Apnay andar kee steam nikal jahay bas baat ki tuq banti ho ya nah bas barhaas nikal jahay bughz kee aag ka yeh asool heh in ka. Ek Sahib musalmanoon ko Mushrik likh rahay thay aur woh sher pesh ker rahay thay jin meh musalmanoon ko Mushrik tehraya gaya. Muj say baat huwi deen kay masail par, aur meri fitrat hee ashidda alal kuffar wali heh, Itla e dalahil e shariat kay bad Kafir ka 'fatwah' aam tor per mera tareeka heh. Un sahib ko meh nay kaheen baar us kay uqabir aur ko chand dafa janab ko Kafir tehraya toh janab nay hadith pesh kee k
  12. Introduction: Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab’s purpose according to the first and the second principle was to establish a common connection between the beliefs of Mushrikeen of Arabian Peninsula and the Muslims of his own era. Then using Khariji methodology interpret verses of Quran which were about polytheists in such a fashion that they seem to represent the creed of Muslims. With this he laid the foundation of justification of Takfir (i.e. declaring Muslims as polytheistic Kafirs) and murder of Muslims. Belief Of Muslims Regarding Intercession & Intermediation: Prophet (sallallahu alayhi
  13. Introduction: Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab presented the definition of permitted and prohibited intercession. In this article these two definitions will be criticized from the perspective of Quran and Sunnah. The Second Principle Of Qawaid Al Arba: That they say: We do not call upon and turn towards them except to seek nearness and intercession. So the proof against seeking this nearness (through others like Awliyah) is the saying of the Most High: “And those who you take Awliyah besides Him (they say): ‘We worship them only that they may bring us near to Allah.” Verily, Allah will judge betwe
  14. I Will Continue My Response Once I have Completed Posting Five Article Material Regarding Qawa'id Al Arba's Second Principle. All The Material Is Written But It Needs Finale Touches. Hence I Have Decided Not To Pursue My Debate Response Until The I Have Completed Posting Those Articles. I Believe Topic Of Hadhir Nazir Has Been Completely Exhausted From A Debate Point Of View And Much Of The Material Will Be Just Repetition. But There Are Some Important Points Which Need To Be Adressed And In-Sha-Allah I will Adress Them This Week. I Have Been Extremely Busy With My Work As A Result Abandoned L
  15. Introduction: This article is in-depth analysis of claim objective of Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab to denounce Tawassul of the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was’sallam) and Awliyah-Allah to be Shirk. The discussion will revolve around determining what the Shirk of polytheists was and how would Muslims be guilty of Shirk as well as what the Muslims believe. Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab’s Objective: In the first principle Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab stated: “That you know the Kuffaar who the Messenger fought used to affirm that Allah Ta’aala, was the Creator and the Disposer of all the affairs but that
  16. Salam alayqum meri behan Donoon halatoon meh wuzu nahin toot-ta. Wuzu khoon behnay yehni khoon zakham say nikal kar jism kay dosray hissay par paunchay toh wozoo toot-ta heh. Sirf agar zakham meh jama rahay toh wuzu tootta nahin magar jism kay us hissay ko dohna behtr heh. Rafa e hajat kee donoon halatoon meh yehni chota/bara peshab kay basat toot-ta heh. Ya phir khawand aur biwi ka azwaji talluq qaim kernay say toot-ta heh. Aur aurat kay makhsoos dinoon kay shoroon hona ka joh sign hota heh us say be toot-ta heh. Meri behan behtr hoga agar aap kissi Islami behan say yeh sawal poochen woh
  17. Introduction: Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab’s Qawa’id Al Arba is the Takfir manual for heretics. This little book introduces all heretics to the art of making everyone Mushrik. The focus of this article would be to explain the evidences which Muhammad bin Abdul Wahhab utilized to establish the rules in his second principle. This will serve two main objectives; 1) this will allow the readers to know the subject matter of the issue in detail, 2) and once the correct understanding these verses realized by the readers then it will be easier to see the trick being played. The Second Principle Of Qa
  18. Salam alayqum, English discussion has been discontinued in this thread. Instead I have created the following thread for the discussion: Hadhir Nazir (Shahid/witness) Discussion With Haq3909. I Have Started Pasting My Response In The Above Thread.
  19. You quoted the Hadith and wrote [in red]: “Abu Huraira reported Allah's Messenger having said this: Two are the types of the denizens of Hell whom I did not see: people having flogs like the tails of the ox with them and they would be beating people, and the women who would be dressed but appear to be naked, who would be inclined (to evil) and make their husbands incline towards it. Their heads would be like the humps of the bukht camel inclined to one side. They will not enter Paradise and they would not smell its odour whereas its odour would be smelt from such and such distance.” [Arabic: S
  20. You wrote in response to my quote: Furthermore you said: "There are two possible things which you may have alluded to one, angels saying Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam): "Don't you know what they did after you!" and this issue has thoroughly answered and explained in this dicussion: http://www.islamimehfil.com/topic/19739-hadhir-nadhir-objection/ .[...] [bukhari Volume 8, Book 76, Number 584] […] [sahih Muslim Book 040, Number 6847] […] So the Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was’sallam) did recognize them, so they could not be disbelievers, rather were people he knew, and he did not know wha
  21. Firstly the hadith states two upon receiving the bowl Tamim ad-Dari (radiallah ta’ala anhu) and Adi bin Badda which was sold for the price of ONE thousand Dirhams. This one thousand Dirhams were divided by them which if divided between the two would be five hundred Dirhams each. Tamim ad-Dari (radiallah ta’ala anhu) returned his share to the family who the money belonged. The amount which he should have returned should be what he received by selling the bowl i.e. five-hundred Dirhams but the figure which he returned is stated to be fifty-thousand Dirhams and also note from Adi bin Badda it is
  22. << Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) gave interpretation of the verse but did he negate the hearing and seeing type of witnessing? Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) stated people will bear witness in defence of Prophets and he will bare witness upon the people. How does that mean Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) is not hearing seeing type of witness? How does the understanding that Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) was sent as a hearing seeing type of witness go against the Tafsir which Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) gave? Comming to the point in which Prophe
  23. My Latest Response To Haq3909. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- It seems that your feeble mind is unable to keep track of the discussion in its context. This same thing happened in the other discussion: http://www.islamimehfil.com/topic/20344-discussion-hadhir-nadhir/ In post 11 note I am lamenting that brother keep my comments in the context of discussion. Fact is that any discussion will divide into sub discussions which are related to main discussions. As this happens it is important
  24. Salam alayqum, Jazakallah Khair moteram Saeedi Sahib Allah ta'ala aap ko jaza e khair aur aap kay Allah darajat aur buland karay, ameen.
  25. Post: #26 بسم الله الرحمن الرحيم Dear MohammadAli, I will mostly ignore the first portion of your discussion since you weren't able to get the gist of my argument however I will address a few points which you have put forth.You said :"Who said it goes in favour and who presented it as evidence to prove Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) is a hearng seeing type of witness? No one, then why are you questioning me. I questioned you to establish your fault because you was using this Tafsir to refute seeing hearing type of witnessing of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi was'sallam) saying that a
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