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  1. Mein nay Masla Nabuwat aur Allamah Ashraf Sialvi rahimullah kay mowaqif par thori tehqeeq ki heh. Asal ikhtilaf yeh nahin kay kia RasoolAllah sab say awal Nabi thay. Is nazria kay toh Allamah Ashraf Sialvi rahimullah qail hen. Woh khud kehtay hen kay awal Nabi RasoolAllah thay magr aakhiri Nabi behjay janay aur jism kay lehaz say hen. Asal ikhtilaf is baat par heh kay pedaish say Nabuwat kay ilan taq kia RasoolAllah Nabi thay ya nahin ... Allamah Sialvi rahimullah ka nazria thah kay woh nahin thay chalees saal ki umar mein Nabuwat ata huwi. Jab Wahi nazil huwi toh phir maloom huwa ... Agar Allamah Sahib rahimullah ki baat mani jahay toh nateeja yeh nikalta heh kay alam e arwah mein Nabi thay magr jab dunya mein peda huway toh Nabuwat salb kar leeh aur phir chalees saal ki Umar mein wapis ata kar deeh. Is baat ki bilqul tuq nahin banti. Aur in kay aur Allamah Saeed Ahmad Assad hafizaullah kay jitnay bi ihtirazaat hen us ka hall sirf aik hi point kar deta heh kay aap pedaish say leh kar chalees saal ki umar taq bi Nabi thay ... magr is doran RasoolAllah ko is ka ilm nahin thah kay woh Nabi hen. Aur hamara nazria bi yahi heh kay ilm barta gaya aur kamil huwa ... Yeh kohi masla takfeer wala nahin. Mein toh is ko Ahle Sunnat say kharij karna wala bi masla nahin samajta Islam say Kharij karnay wala toh door ki baat heh.
  2. Qasim Nanotavi ki Kitab ... Tahzir Un Naas mein Awla bamana aqrab heh ... google images mein tahzir un naas type keren un mein say aik hoga.
  3. Pehlay walay nazriyeh say phir kon raha heh? Kahan par aisi baat likhi jis say tumari khopri mein yeh baat aahi kay mein apnay nazriyeh say phir raha hoon. Pehlay achi tara samaj loh joh mein nay kia likha heh aur samajnay kay bad zara ussay hazam kar loh phir akhaz karna kay kia nateeja nikla heh.
  4. -------------------------- Seeking help from Allah only: Abu Huraira (radiallah ta'ala anhu) visiting Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) and telling him he can't remember Ahadith and Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) granting him capacity to remember ... what about when Prophet asked his companion, ask me what you want, and companion said O Prophet I want your nearness in hereafter, ... these companions asked the Prophet and the Prophet asked one of them to ask him what he wants ... and the companion told him ... Anyone with sense would realize if what Shaykh Abdul Qadir Jilani (rahimullah) is saying is the Islam and and there is nothing else then what about action of companions and his Prophet? There is nothing in this post that is against creed of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah. You have to understand that there are degrees of belief in Tawheed and practice on Tawheed. There were people who only saught help from Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) and did not even seek jaiz/permissible help from creation, others even refused recitation of Quran or cures. Everyone had their own level of belief and then practice of Tawheed. Shaykh Abdul Qadir al-Jilani (rahimullah) is even prohibiting permissible help ... give me food I am hungry ... i am thirsty give me water ... i am injured help me get up ... help me i am drawning ... he is even prohibiting this kind of help. Shaykh Abdul Qadir al-Jilani rahimullah only stated what he practiced and thats what he encouraged.
  5. It was noted my referrencing made it difficult for the readers to figure out which Hadith of brother Abdullah I am responding to. Therefore I have inserted the Hadith numbering system which brother Abdullah used in his article. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Response To Abdullah The Khariji Of A’du-Allah: Rectifying Distortions On Hadith Of Najd And East. Introduction: Muslims believe Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) foretold that a Khariji sect will emerge from central Saudi Arabia. Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) pointed to the direction of East and named Najd as place of its origin. In middle of 17th century this group emerged lead by Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab. Seeing the prophesy was fulfilled and noting; creed of Tawheed/Shirk and deeds matched Khawarij, along side the description given by Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) fitted upon Shaykh of Najd, the Islamic scholarship warned the Muslims of his tribulation citing the Ahadith of Najd as proof. Supporters of Shaykh of Najd resorted to distorting the Ahadith which expose the reality of their sect. The core argument in defense is; Najd is not in Arabia but it is Iraq [or is part of Iraq]. Then they present various evidences in form of Ahadith, many of which are gross distortions of Ahadith, to establish their concocted narrative. BackGround And Way Of Response: Year and half ago a brother Syed Hammad Saifi mentioned another brother Muhammad Aamir Khan had written some articles on topic of Najd. Unfortunately I did not ask what and where these articles are. And told me that brother Abdullah, a supporter of Kharijism, from system_of_life responded to these articles, here. Brother Syed Hammad Saifi requested a response. I informed him everything which brother Abdullah has mentioned in the article comprehensively been refuted in various articles which number roughly twenty, here. And promised him something will be written in response to brother Abdullah’s distortions of Islam in future. In brother Abdullah’s article; there is material which is directly related to the topic of Najd and unrelated. Everything, related and unrelated all will be addressed in order of evidence quoted. 0.0 - Adu-Allah’s Opening Statement: “This Article is a brief response to those Sufis (Barewlis) who intentionally accusing the Ahle-Sunnah Wal-Jamaah of Hijaaz (Saudi Arabia). Abusing the great Scholars of Hijaaz (Saudi Arabia). They intentionally hide ing the Hadith related to Iraq and attributing those Ahadeeth to People of Hijaaz with intention of maligning them. Inshallah we shall expose these Liars.” [Ref: Alternative location of original article, here] 0.1 - Abdullah’s Opening Statement In Balance: He said Sufis (Barelwis) accuse and abuse the scholars of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah of Hijaz (Saudi Arabia). And we the Muslims conceal the Ahadith which indicate group of Satan will emerge from Iraq with intention of maligning the Shuyukh of Najd. It is important that the very foundation of distortion and lies is exposed for what it is. The following parts will address everything that needs to be addressed. There are numerous factual errors in what brother Abdullah wrote in his opening statement. These errors are due to absence of knowledge and by establishing them objective is to prove brother Abdullah is poorly educated. And poor education religious or secular makes poor scholars and poor scholarship. By this I do not intend to insinuate brother Abdullah is an Aalim the truth is far from it. 1.0 - Sufi And Barelwis Accuse: Readers should note there are three major factions, Sufis/Sunnis, Wahhabis, and Shia. And in between there are many shades of grey for each faction. If you take away, Wahhabis, Shias, Deobandis, from equation everyone else is Sufi and everyone of them is member of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah. Even if one takes away Deobandis and Shias and puts them in pro-Wahhabi basket, this still leaves an over whelming majority of Sufi/Sunnis who are against the Wahhabis. What I am trying to get at is when he says Sufis are against his version of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah. In reality he means everyone from Ummah is against his sect with exception of dozen or so Deobandis. 1.1 - Identity Of Ahlus Sunnah And The Jammah: Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said: “After I am gone, you will see great conflict. I urge you to adhere to my Sunnah and the path of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs, and cling stubbornly to it.” [Ref: Ibn Majah, B1, H44] “Whoever among you lives will see great conflict. I urge you to adhere to what you know of my Sunnah and the path of the Rightly-Guided Caliphs, and cling stubbornly to it.” [Ref: Ibn Majah, B1, H43] Ahlus Sunnah (i.e. people of tradition) in Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah (i.e. people of tradition and main-body) referrs to those who follow the Sunnah of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). And Wal Jammah referrs to one who holds to the Jammah (i.e. main-group) of companions and of Muslims. The identity of second is established by the following saying of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam): “It was narrated from Thawban that: The Messenger of Allah said: "A group among my Ummah will continue to follow the truth and prevail, and those who oppose them will not be able to harm them, until the command of Allah comes to pass." [Ref: Ibn Majah, B1, H10] And this taifa (i.e. group) is of majority which will be upon Haq when there are differences: “Anas bin Malik said: “I heard the Messenger of Allah say: ‘My Ummah will not unite on misguidance, so if you see them differing, follow the great majority.’” [Ref: Ibn Majah, B36, H3950] In another Hadith Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said that majority is better then minority and then instructed the Muslims to stick to the Jammah: “Abu Dhār (Allah be pleased with him) reported from the Prophet (Peace be upon him) that, “Two are better than one, and three better than two; so stick to the Jama'ah for verily Allah, Most Great and Glorious, will only unite my Ummah on guidance." [Ref: M.I.Ahmad, Al-Ansar, Abu Zar Al Ghaffari, H20776] From all this it is clear Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah are those who follow the prophetic Sunnah, and Jammah of companions, and Jammah of Muslim, and they are; Ummah agreeing upon guidance. And they are majority and there is continuity of theological lineage. 1.2 - Wahhabiyyah Are Ahlus Sunnah, Or Barelwis: In light of what has been established from Ahadith the Wahhabiyyah cannot be deserving of title of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah because their belief system originated in 17th century and the core principles and teaching of this sect lack continuity. Also they as whole are; and the Muslims amongst them; are minority in Ummah who are disputing and rejecting the beliefs of majority. And Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) instructed the Muslims to fallow the majority in following Hadith: “My Ummah will not unite on misguidance, so if you see them differing, follow the great majority.” [Ref: Ibn Majah, B36, H3950] “Two are better than one, and three better than two; so stick to the Jama'ah for verily Allah, Most Great and Glorious, will only unite my Ummah on guidance." [Ref: M.I.Ahmad, Al-Ansar, Abu Zar Al Ghaffari, H20776] Note Hadith of Musnad Imam Ahmad (rahimullah) precisely establishes the majority is Jammah and also establishes majority Jammah is Ummah. Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) wouldn’t have instructed the believers to follow the majority if they were not group of truth and if they were not the Jammah. In contrast to Wahhabiyyah, Barelwism/Sufism of subcontinent alone is enough in numbers to compose a majority against the Wahhabiyyah. If one was to include Sufism of Arabian Peninsula, Syria, Turkey, Iraq, Iran, Africa, Malaysia, and other countries … They share with Barelwis, the Ashari and Maturidi heritage. Qadri, Naqshbandi, Chishti and Soharwardi Sufi paths. Hanafi, Shafi, Hanbali, and Maliki fiqh.[1] Despite their perpherial differences a core teaching unites all these scholars upon prophetic Sunnah and come togather to compose over whelming majority, the Jammah, and they are Ummah agreeing upon guidance. Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said regarding those who deviate from the Jammah and Ummah: "I saw the Prophet on the Minbar addressing the people. He said: 'After me there will be many calamities and much evil behavior. Whoever you see splitting away from the Jama'ah or trying to create division among the Ummah of Muhammad, then kill him, for the Hand of Allah is with the Jama'ah, and the Satan is with the one who splits away from the Ummah[2], running with him.'" [Ref: Nisai, B37, H4025] 2.0 - Saudi Arabia And Hijaz: He says Muslims accuse the scholars of Hijaaz (Saudi Arabia) … The fact is Hijaaz is not name for Saudi Arabia. Hijaz historically only composed of a small area of Arabian Peninsula and modern Saudi Arabia. Please see the following map for Hijaz, Arabia and Najd, here. This reveals brother doesn’t actually know what Hijaz is and what Arabia is. We have nothing but good to say about the scholars of al-Hijaz. We the Muslims condemn the Wahhabi/Khariji scholars of Najd, here, whom he deceptively counted amoungst people of Hijaz. This will be explained in on coming parts of article in detail but here for introductory purposes somethings will be mentioned. 2.1 - East And Najd In Ahadith: Najd is in East of Madinah and regarding it Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said: “Narrated Ibn Umar: The Prophet said: … He said: "O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Sham (i.e. greater Syria)! O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The people said: "O Allah's Apostle! And also on our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet said: "There (in Najd) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the Qarn (i.e. horn, head, group, an era) of Satan." [Ref: Bukhari, B88, H214] Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) also said regarding inhabitants of Najd: “The callousness of heart and sternness is in the East and faith is among the people of the Hijaz.” [Ref: Muslim, B1, H95] “Narrated Ibn Umar: I heard the Prophet saying: "Tribulationss will emerge from here." Pointing towards the East.” [Ref: Bukhari, B63, H217] One of tribulation was of a group of people with shaven heads: “Sahl b. Hunaif reported Allah's Apostle as saying: There would arise from the east a people with shaven heads.” [Ref: Muslim, B5, H2338] Many factions of Khawarij emerged but Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab and his band of bandit Wahhabis emerged with this distinguishing sign of shaven heads. The tribulation and sternness of Najdi/Wahhabi hearts is established from where they emerged and what they did to Muslims of Arabian Peninsula, including Hijaz, during their pillaging raids and conquests. They put the Wahhabi ISIS companions to shame with their actrocities and rape and murderous rampage. And this is why the Muslim scholarship of world except Wahhabi condemns Wahhabism and are totally against it. 2.2 - Hijaz In Ahadith Of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam): Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said: “The people of the West will continue to triumphantly follow the truth until the Hour is established.”[3] [Ref: Muslim, B20, H4722] “The callousness of heart and sternness is in the East and faith is among the people of the Hijaz.” [Ref: Muslim, B1, H95] Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said the people of Hijaz and in other words people of Western part of Arabia will hold to truth until the day of judgment and vast majority of the Muslims of Hijaz are members of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah, here. With aid of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) the Muslims of Hijaz will remain upon way of Ahlus Sunnah and victorious our the group of Satan of Najd. Also note Hijaz is refuge of Islam: “That the Messenger of Allah said: "Indeed the religion with creep into the Hijaz just like a snake creeps into its hole, and the religion will cling to the Hijaz just like the female mountain goat cling to the peak of a mountain.” [Ref: Tirmadhi, B38, H2630] 2.3 - The Contrast And The Deception: After noting the clear distinction and merits of people of Hijaz and truth regarding Najd and Wahhabism; the readers should imagine why the enemy of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and his beloved Messenger (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) would attempt to pass the tribulation of group of Satan and their scholars as scholars of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah and of scholars of Hijaz. Brother Adu-Allah’s attempt in the science of Hadith is would be called Tadlees. Tadlees best can be destribed in modern magic (i.e. card tricks and stuff) terms of; misdirection, sleight of hand, and concealment. Where a narrator attempts to cover-up weakness of a Hadith by praising merits of a narrator or by with-holding information in order to create positive or negative image. In other words, the enemy of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) attempted elevate Wahhabism by associating it with Hijaaz and by disassociating it from Najd. Tadlees is subtle but brother Abdullah’s attempt to make East into West is grand deception. 3.0 - Ahadith Of Iraq And Najd: Brother Abdullah said: “They intentionally hide the Hadith related to Iraq and attributing those Ahadeeth to People of Hijaaz Najd with intention of maligning them.” The truth of matter is; Ahadith which foretold emergence of group of Satan from Iraq are about Khawarij just as Ahadith of Najd are. But they are about two different locations therefore we do not mix the reports nor interpret one to mean the other. Meaning we don’t say because group of Satan emerged from Iraq therefore Najd means Iraq which the Wahhabis are attempting to do. Suppose there is report on TV: There was bomb explosion in London, Enland, university. Right after it, or week later, or month later there is another news report: In university of New Jersey, America, there was bomb explosion. Year later these two news reports are pulbished on a website. You the reader reads both of them. Due to bomb explosions in mentioned cities would you conclude; i) University of New Jersey and university of London are one and the same, ii) or knowing better you would distinguish between the two reports and believe these are two different bomb explosions in two different cities, two different countries. In context of my scenario, Abdullah, the Wahhabi enemy of knowledge and reason, is complaining why do the Muslims hide reports of London bomb attack when they attempt to find location of New Jersey. Any educated and sane person would realise nothing is being hidden. The report of London attack is not related to New Jersey attack. Hence using London attack report and its location to mean New Jersey is in fact London would be dumbness of epic proportions. See the location of Najd and Iraq, here. You can’t but appreciate for laughs the foolishness of Wahhabi logic: group of Satan in Iraq and group of Satan in Najd; means Iraq is Najd. Am edgecumated too, and my edgecumation says if group of Satan in Iraq and group of Satan is in Najd then this means Najd is Iraq. Victory for eddgcumation! This is like: If A is sweet and liquid and B is sweet and liquid then A is B. If lion is furry and has tail, and donkey is furry and with tail, donkey is lion. Wahhabi would win every debate with such flawless logic. Sarcasm! We leave it upon the Wahhabis to confuse/make Najd into Iraq with blameless logic and rationalism. 4.0 - Accuse, Abuse, And Maligning Scholars Of Najd: He said the Muslims accuse the scholars of Najd. And we do indeed accuse them of being Khawarij and evidence of what vast majority of Muslims believe about them is in their own books. And world terrorism in the name of Islam, so called, is all Wahhabi supported. All man power is of Wahhabism except those who have been forced into joining them under pain of death as it happened in Syria under rule of Wahhabi branch of ISIS. Please listen to major scholar of Wahhabis/Salafis say ISIS are Wahhabi, here. 5.0 - Abdullah Quoting Surah Baqarah (2) Verse 42: Brother Abdullah quoted the following verse: ''Do not mix the Truth with Falsehood nor Conceal the Truth when you Know.” [Ref: 2:42] And he quoted this verse in an attempt to imply that members of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah mix the falsehood (i.e. Barelwi/Sufi teachings) with truth (i.e. Hadith) and conceal the truth [about Wahhabis]. With regards to insinuation that members of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah hide truth and distort it; I rather let the readers decide on strength of evidence and sound argumentation to determine who is mixing the falsehood with truth and who was/is Mudallis (i.e. guilty of Tadlees). What I will do is; explain the verse in light of context and other verses of Quran. Then at the end of which I will establish brother Abdullah like all his Wahhabi, Salafi and Khariji co-religionists share trait which is unique to Khawarij and worst of creation. 5.1 - Context Of Surah Baqarah Verse 42: Allah (subhanhu wa ta’ala) stated: “And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know (it).” [Ref: 2:42] Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) revealed this verse as part of following six verses: "O Children of Israel! Remember My favor which I have bestowed upon you and fulfill My covenant (upon you) that I will fulfill your covenant (from Me), and be afraid of Me. And believe in what I have sent down confirming that which is (already) with you, and be not the first to disbelieve in it. And do not exchange My signs for a small price, and fear Me. And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know (it). And establish prayer and give zakah and bow with those who bow (in worship and obedience). Do you order righteousness of the people and forget yourselves while you recite the Scripture? Then will you not reason? And seek help through patience and prayer, and indeed, it is difficult except for the humbly submissive (to Allah). Who are certain that they will meet their Lord and that they will return to Him." [Ref: 2:40/46] Context of this verse reveals it was revealed regarding the Bani Israel (i.e. Jews). 5.2 - Explanation Of Surah al-Baqarah Verse 42 In Light Of Quran: Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) states: “And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know (it).” [Ref: 2:42] Now it is established verse was revealed with regards to Jews who were concealing the truth and mixing falsehood in truth. What the truth and the falsehood was; is yet to be determined. Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) says: "Those to whom We gave the Scripture know him (i.e. Prophet Muhammad) as they know their own sons. But indeed a party of them conceal the truth while they know (it). The truth is from your Lord, so never be among the doubters." [Ref: 2:146/147] Alhasil the truth they conealed and distorted was regarding identity and Prophet-hood of Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) while the Rabbai’s knew too well; Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is Prophet from Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala): “And when there came to them a Book (this Qur'an) from Allah confirming what is with them (i.e. Taurat) and the Injeel, although aforetime they had invoked Allah in order to gain victory over those who disbelieved, then when there came to them that which they had recognised, they disbelieved in it. So let the Curse of Allah be on the disbelievers.” [Ref: 2:89] They were waiting for his arrival and invoked Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) for victory through Waseela (i.e. means) of RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) but disbelieved in his Prophet-hood and hid information from Jewish layity which would have helped them identify him as Prophet of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala), and mixed the truth with falsehood to hide the truth of his Prophet-hood. 5.3 - Mixing The Truth With FalseHood And Concealing The Truth: From previous two sections it would be obvious following verse was revealed with regards to Jews: “And do not mix the truth with falsehood or conceal the truth while you know (it).” [Ref: 2:42] And specially Jewish scholarly elite hiding information and distorting information which establishes Prophet-hood of Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) even though they knew too well that he is Prophet of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala). Brother Abdullah applied and interpreted the verse in context of Muslims and employed it because he is of understanding; we the Muslims, the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah, mix falsehood with truth, and conceal truth. Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) had following to say about those people who interpret verses revealed regarding disbelievers as if they are about Muslims: “... and the Mulhidun (heretical) after the establishment of firm proof against them:"And the statement of Allah: 'Allah will not mislead a people after He has guided them, until He makes clear to them what to avoid.' (9:115) And Ibn Umar used to consider them (the Khawarij and the Mulhidun) the worst of Allah's creatures and said: "These people took some verses that had been revealed concerning the disbelievers and interpreted them as describing the believers.” [Ref: Bukhari, Vol 9, Page 49, Chap 6: Killing The Khawari] Muslims now can decide; if brother Abdullah, theWahhabi, was mixing the falsehood of Wahhabi/Khariji methodology into truth of Quran, and hiding information regarding verse [to insinuate Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah are guilty of distortion and concealment] or not. 6.0 – DIY Tafsir And Sharh Of Quran And Hadith: What was required from brother Abdullah was that he explain and demonstrate why Najd isn’t the demonstrated Najd but it is Iraq. And to support his position he should have presented evidence of Hadith and maps to demonstrate his position. Then his position would have been established and we would have been under the burden to establish Islamic position and refute his Khariji distortion. What brother Abdullah has done is; what I have pointed to in section - 3.0. What he is attempting is to interpret Hadith with Hadith but DIY scholar doesn’t have any idea how to interpret Hadith or Quran. His effort is laughable because he is trying to apply rules of exegesis on a matter of geography. Purpose of Tafsir is to bring clarity and remove ambiguity from a verse with another verse. And correct way to manage it is to employ relating set of verses to shed light on ambiguity. DIY scholars and DIY Mujtahideen relying on Shaykh ul-Islam Google (rahimullah alayhi ta’ala) due to zero knowledge rules of Tafsir. And as result of DIY rules of Tafsir brother Abdullah is interpreting name of one region to mean another region due to commonality of detail between Iraq and Najd –: i.e. emergence of group of Satan. The commanlity of detail can be used to establish both groups are same in theology but this detail cannot legitimately be employed to argue Iraq is Najd. To do so would be foolishness however appealing and convincing it may seem to DIY scholars. If two unrelated Ahadith or verses are employed and interpreted then the out come naturally would be defective and invalid. 6.1 - Demonstrating Correct Methodology Of Tafsir: Years ago I had discussion with a extremely extremist Wahhabi [aka Usmaniyyah, Captain]. And he quoted the following verse to argued it referrs to deceased AwliyahAllah including companions and Prophets including Prophet Isa (alayhis salam): “And those they invoke mindu’nillah (i.e. other than Allah) who create nothing, and they (themselves) are created. They are (in fact) dead not alive, and they do not perceive when they will be resurrected.” [Ref: 16:21] My counter argument was the verse was revealed regarding polytheists and their idol-gods. The ambiguity was made clear via following verse: “Yet have they taken mindu’nillah gods that can create nothing but are themselves created; that have no control of hurt or good to themselves; nor can they control death nor life nor resurrection.“ [Ref: 25:3] Alhasil a related verse was employed to clarify the ambiguity and this is Tafsir of best type. Coming to invalid methodology of interpreting; following Hadith is proof that Satan’s group (aka Khawarij) would appear from Najd: “They said again: "Our Najd as well." On that the Prophet said: "There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the group of Satan." [Ref: Bukhari, B17, H147] To say following Hadith clarifies ambiguity of Najd through usage of Iraq would be a monstoracity because regions and geographical locations are not interpreted to mean another through interpretation: “I asked Sahl bin Hunaif: "Did you hear the Prophet saying anything about Al-Khawarij?" He said: "I heard him saying while pointing his hand towards Iraq: "There will appear in it some people who will recite the Quran but it will not go beyond their throats, and ..." [Ref: Bukhari, B84, H68] Correct way to interpret and find location and region of Najd should be something similar to following. Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said: "Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there, from the side where group of Satan will come out." Or said: "... the group [from direction] of sun (rise) ..." [Ref: Bukhari, B88, H212] Based on this Hadith following article was written to demonstrate Iraq cannot be Najd, here. And also sunrises from East hence following Hadith is related to it: “Verily, afflictions (will start) from here," pointing towards the east, "whence the side of the group of Satan comes out." [Ref: Bukhari, B56, H714] Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) was residing on pulpit of Masjid of Nabvi (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) and from there he pointed toward house of Aysha (radiallah ta’ala anha) and this is precisely toward East, here, therefore following Hadith is also related to the two: “The Prophet stood up and delivered a sermon, and pointing to Aisha's house (i.e. Eastwards): He said thrice: "Affliction (will appear from) here and from where the side of the Satan's head comes out (i.e. from the East).” [Ref: Bukhari, B53, H336] Maps and various Ahadith establish Najd is in Arabia and toward East of Madinah therefore it is connected with all the above Hadith: “They said again: "Our Najd as well." On that the Prophet said: "There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the group of Satan." [Ref: Bukhari, B17, H147] Alhasil all related Ahadith to Najd and East were brought togather and explained in light of each other to establish direction of Najd and location of Najd. 6.2 - Invalid Methodology Of Tafsir Of Quran And Sharh Of Ahadith: Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) stated:“And (remember) when Allah will say: "O Isa , son of Maryam! Did you say unto men: 'Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Allah?'” [Ref: 5:116] This verse indicates a group/sect of Christians worshipped Prophet Isa (alayhis salam) and his mother Maryam (salamullah alayha) as gods and on the day of judgment Prophet Isa (alayhis salam) will be questioned regarding it. In another verse Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) states: “Certainly you (disbelievers) and that which you are worshipping now besides Allah, are fuel for Hell! (Surely) you will enter it.” [Ref: 21:98] DIY scholar and DIY Tafsir would be prepared to send Prophet Isa (alayhis salam) and his mother to hell-fire. After all one plus one is indeed adding up to hell-fire. Yet the fact is both these verses are true and both these verses are unrelated. One is regarding the idols which the polytheists of Arabia worshipped and other is about a Prophet of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and about a righteous worshipper of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala). With regards Prophets Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) says: “It is not (possible) for any human being to whom Allah has given the Book and Al-Hukm (laws of religion) and Prophethood to say to the people: "Be my worshippers rather than Allah's." On the contrary (he would say): "Be you Rabbaniyyun because you are teaching the Book, and you are studying it." [Ref: 3:79] With regards to men/women those who were worshipped during their lives or after their death Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) will ask them if they asked the people to worship them beside Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and if they answer the question in affirmative then Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) will send them to fire: “And if any of them should say: "Verily, I am an Ilah (i.e. god deserving of worship) besides Him." Such a one We should recompense with Hell. Thus We recompense the Zalimun (polytheists and wrong-doers).” [Ref: 21:29] If we rely on DIY scholars and DIY Tafsirs educated by Shaykh ul-Islam Google Ibn Yahoo Ibn Bing then you can imagine the destruction of Islam. Verses of Quran and Ahadith of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) must correctly be paired with related Ayaat/Ahadith to derive correct understanding. 6.3 – Brother Abdullah The Enemy Of Ahadith Of RasoolAllah: Brother Abdullah is DIY scholar and DIY Mufassir and Sha’reh. As a result the readers would realize how mercilessly he is decimating teaching of Islam in order to protect Wahhabism. He will take two unrelated regions and based similarity in content of Hadith he will be declaring Najd is Iraq. My objective would be to separate Iraq from Najd and Najd from Iraq. Provide convincing geographical and evidence of Hadith to prove student of Shaykh Google Ibn Yahoo Ibn Bing is out of his depth and is sinking in ignorance of pre-Islamic era. 7.0 - Abdullah Quotes Ahadith Of Satan’s Group Appearing From Iraq: Hadith 1: "Abdullah Ibn-Umar related that once, he saw the Prophet showing Iraq with his hand, and saying: "The Fitna (i.e. affliction) is here, the Fitna is here, the Fitna is here, three times, it is from here that will appear the devil's horns [alternative; devil’s group]." (Isnad considered Sahih by the Muhaddith Ahmad Shakir al-Masry) [Ref: Musnad-e-Ahmad, Vol10, P391, H6302, H6129] Hadith 2: "Ibn Umar reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “O Allah, bless us in our Syria. O Allah, bless us in our Yemen.” He repeated it and on the third or fourth time they said: “O Messenger of Allah and in our Iraq.” The Prophet said: “Verily, from there will appear upheavals and tribulations and from there will rise the horn of Satan [alternative; Satan’s group]." [Ref: Tabarani, al-Mujjam Awsaat, H4230] 7.1 - Commenting On Ahadith Quoted By Brother Abdullah: Ahadith state group of Satan will emerge from Najd and brother Abdullah hopes to interpret Najd with Iraq. More accurately; due to usage of Iraq in above Ahadith brother Abdullah is replacing Najd with Iraq. The logic behind it goes something like this if; from A is group of Satan and from B is group of Satan; therefore A is alphabet B. This explains the mechanism employed by brother Abdullah and simultaneously delivers a smack of sanity to his insanity. Before venturing further it is important to point out; words Satan’s group referr to Khawarij. Muslims and Wahhabis have no dispute in this regard but if anyone questions this ascription then please read the following article, here. Coming to first Hadith quoted by brother Abdullah; I will not comment on chain of narration because the over-all meaning of Hadith agrees with following authentic Hadith: “Narrated by Yusair bin 'Amr:I asked Sahl bin Hunaif: "Did you hear the Prophet saying anything about Al-Khawarij?" He said: "I heard him saying while pointing his hand towards Iraq: "There will appear in it some people who will recite the Quran but it will not go beyond their throats,and they will go out from (leave) Islam as an arrow darts through the game's body." [Ref: Bukhari, B84, H68] Even though the Hadith does not use words group (i.e. Qarn) of Satan the description is regarding Khawarij. And principle of science of Hadith is when a weak Hadith is narrated or coroborated by stronger the weakness is lifted due to stronger Hadith. The second Hadith quoted by brother Abdullah; its wording is fabricated. Meaning event described in the said Hadith never occurred. Instead one of the narrators confused Najd/East with Iraq either due to forgetfullness. Or due to events that transpired in Iraq with regards to Khawarij confused Najd Ahadith with Iraq and replaced Najd with Iraq. Ignoring the confusion/distortion of actual Hadith of Najd it has to be said over-all meaning of Khawarij appearing from Iraq is in agreement with authentic Ahadith but the event it describes never happened. 7.2 - Ahadith Establish No Dua For Najd And Dua For Iraq: From following Hadith it is clear that Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) refused to invoke Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) for region of Najd citing the emergence of group of Satan (aka Khawarij) for his refusal: “The Prophet again said, "O Allah! Bless our Sham and Yemen." They said again: "Our Najd as well." On that the Prophet said, "There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the group of Satan." [Ref: Bukhari, B17, H147] Even though Khawarij were to emerge from Iraq also Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) did invoke Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) for people of Iraq: “Narrated Anas bin Malik: The Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) looked toward Iraq, Syria, and Yemen, and made the Dua: O Allah accept their hearts on your obedience and place firmly your mercy around them.” [Ref: Tabarani, Mu'jam al-Sagheer, Chptr; Alif, Name; Ishaq, H273, here] Note Najd is absent from the second Hadith. What this alludes to is Najd had a special position and played a special role in tribulation of Khawarij due to which Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) did not invoke Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) on behalf of Najd. And that special role will be elaborated in two following sections. 7.3 - Emergence Of Satan’s Group From Najd And From Direction Of East: Identification of historical Najd is important because group of Satan was to originate from Najd. Islamic understanding of subject and location of Najd translates to; Wahhabism being the group of Satan which Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). For the uninitiated, it is adivsed to see location of Najd on maps, here. It will be evident Najd is toward East of Madinah and Makkah and is central region of Saudi Arabia and it surrounds Saudi capital Riyadh. With this basic information please read the following Ahadith: “Narrated Ibn `Umar: (The Prophet) said, "O Allah! Bless our Sham and our Yemen." People said, "Our Najd as well." The Prophet again said, "O Allah! Bless our Sham and Yemen." They said again: "Our Najd as well." On that the Prophet said, "There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the group of Satan." [Ref: Bukhari, B17, H147] “O Allah! Bestow Your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Allah's Apostle! And also on our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet said, "There (in Najd) is the place of earthquakes and afflictions and from there comes out the side of the group of Satan." [Ref: Bukhari, B88, H214] Ahadith about East which tell about emergence of group of Satan from direction of East: “Narrated 'Abdullah bin 'Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle on the pulpit saying, "Verily, afflictions (will start) from here," pointing towards the east, "whence the side of the group of Satan comes out." [Ref: Bukhari, B56, H714] “Ibn Umar reported that he heard Allah's Messenger as saying (in a state) that he had turned his face towards the east: Behold, turmoil would appear from this side, from where the group of Satan would appear.” [Ref: Muslim, B41, H6938] One Hadith states East by pointing direction of sunrise: “Narrated Salim's father: The Prophet stood up beside the pulpit and said, "Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there, from the side where group of Satan will come out," or said, "... the group [from direction] of sun (rise) ..." [Ref: Bukhari, B88, H212] Alhasil the region of Najd and direction of East perfectly compliment each other. And emergence of group of Satan from Najd/East are about the same region. The only difference in one group of Ahadith direction is mentioned and in the other name of region is mentioned. Following article contains seventeen facts; if all put into perspective precisely establish the direction from where the group of Satan was to emerge, here. Alhasil all this reveals why a Wahhabi/Khariji would distort the truth and mix falsehood into Ahadith Najd. And would want Iraq to be Najd and not the land of their beloved Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab. 7.4 - Group Of Satan From Iraq And Group Of Satan From Najd: Briefly: A group of Satan was to emerge from Najd and another one from Iraq. The first Satan’s group to abandoned Ali (radiallah ta’ala anhu) when after arbitration at Siffin and assembled as a separate faction at Harura [alternative name for Khawarij connected with; Haruriyyah] in Iraq. These people were mostly from tribe of Banu Tamim which was/is mainly situated in central Saudi Arabia, in other words in historical Najd. Abdullah aka Dhil Khuwaisirah at-Tamim was leader of Khawarij in Iraq - see map depicting location of Banu Tamim in Najd and evidence of Dhil Khuwaisirah being form Najd and him leading Khawarij of Iraq, here. Following article comprehensively explains in light of authentic Ahadith how and why Ahadith of Najd are connected, and how Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab is part of Khariji apostasy. To let the cat out the bag; it is not due to Iraq being Najd, here. From Ahadith of Najd and Iraq it becomes apparent there will be two [major] groups of Khawarij from Najd and both would originate from Najd: "… Messenger of Allah pointed towards Yemen with his hand and said: Verily Iman is towards this side, and harshness and callousness of the hearts is found amongst the rude owners of the camels (i.e. Rabia and Mudar) who drive them behind their tails (to the direction) where emerge the two horns of Satan, they are the tribes of Rabi'a and Mudar." [Ref: Muslim, B1, H83] Please note locations of tribes of Rabia and Mudhar were also depicted on the maps of previous section. Moving on; there were to appear many minor off-shoots of Khawarij in light of following Hadith: "There will emerge people (i.e. Khawarij) who will recite the Qur'an but it will not go any deeper than their collarbones. Whenever a group of them appears, they should be cut off (i.e. killed)." Ibn 'Umar said: "I heard the Messenger of Allah say: 'Whenever a group of them appears, they should be killed.' - More than twenty times - 'until Dajjal emerges among them.'" [Ref: Ibn Majah, B1, H174] Alhasil the first group of Khawarij appeared in Iraq but the main source of man power and ideological leadership of Khawarij were from central Arabia and to be precise from province of Najd. The second major infestation of Khawarij was to appear from Najd. And when it appeared, in the beginning, almost entire man power of Khawarij was from Najd and from ranks of Bani Tamim. Please read the above linked article to properly and comprehensively understand how Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab at-Tamim the Najdi is part of earlier Khawarij yet created a unique blend of Kharijism (i.e. excessiveness characterised by Mushriking Muslims, accusing them of innovation) and Sunnism. Sooner or later articles establishing methodological and theological uniformity between Khawarij and Wahhabism will be published but following is only a starter, here. 8.0 - Abdullah Quoting Ahadith Of Flies And Mosquitoes: Hadith 3: "Ibn Fudail reported on the authority of his father that he heard Salim bin Abdullah bin Umar as saying: O people of Iraq! How strange it is that you ask about the minor sins but commit major sins? I heard from my father Abdullah bin Umar narrating that he heard Allah's Messenger as saying while pointing his hand towards the East: Verily, the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the group of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another." [Ref: Muslim B41, H694] Hadith 4: "Narrated Ibn Abi Na'm: I was present when a man asked Ibn Umar about the blood of mosquitoes. Ibn Umar said: "From where are you?" The man replied: "From Iraq." Ibn Umar said: "Look at that! He is asking me about the blood of Mosquitoes while they (the Iraqis ) have killed the (grand) son of the Prophet. I have heard the Prophet saying: "They (Hasan and Husain) are my two sweet-smelling flowers in this world." [Ref: Bukhari, B73, H23] Hadith 5: "Narrated Ibn Abi Nu'm: A person asked Abdullah bin Umar whether a Muslim could kill flies. I heard him saying (in reply): "The people of Iraq are asking about the killing of flies while they themselves murdered the son of the daughter of Allah's Messenger. The Prophet said: They are my two sweet basils in this world." [Ref: Al-Adab al-Mufrad, B5, H2] “Ibn Fudail reported on the authority of his father that he heard Salim, bin Abdullah, bin Umar as saying: O people of Iraq! How strange it is that you ask about the minor sins but commit major sins? I heard from my father Abdullah bin Umar narrating that he heard Allah's Messenger as saying while pointing his hand towards the east: Verily. the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the group of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another; and Moses killed a person from among the people of Pharaoh unintentionally and Allah, the Exalted and Glorious said: "You killed a person but We relieved you from the grief and tried you with (many a) trial." (20:40). Ahmad bin Umar reported this hadith from Salim, but he did not make a mention of the words: ‘I heard’.” [Ref: Muslim, B41, H6943, inserted by M.Ali.R.] 8.1 - Commenting On Hadith Of Killing Of Flies And Mosquitoes And Minor Sins: Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) mentions death of Hassan (radiallah ta’ala anhu) and Hussain (radiallah ta’ala anhu) and quotes a prophetic statement indicating love of RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) and merits of these two companions. Therefore the setting of these quoted Ahadith is after poisoning of Imam Hassan (radiallah ta’ala anhu) which lead to his death and after the heart breaking events of Karbala had already transpired. And maybe the event of Karbala had recently transpired hence it was still fresh in mind of Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) which resulted the material we read in Hadith. It is also worth noting Khawarij became a departed from Jamah in Syria but were recognised as Khawarij in Iraq. And the event of Hadith took place long after appearance of Khawarij. Note Khawarijwere recognised as a distinct sect after arbitration of Siffin and during the life and Khilafat of Ali (radiallah ta’ala anhu). Finally brother Abdullah is attempting insinuating Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) applied the Hadith of East upon people of Iraq. This Hadith has already been explained in detail in the following article, here. 8.2 - Iraqis Concerned With Minor Sins And Group Of Satan: Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) was asked about killing of flies/masquitoes (i.e. minor sin) and he said: “O people of Iraq! How strange it is that you ask about the minor sins but commit major sins?” Minor sins is killing of flies/mosquitoes and major sin is killing a believer. And in the context he is insinuating that people of Iraq you’re more concerned with minor sins yet you should be more worried about major sins in general and sin of mudering Hussain (radiallah ta’ala anhu) to be specific. 8.3 - Prophet Musa (alayhis salam) Put Into Trials Due To Unintentional Death: Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) says: “…and Moses killed a person from among the people of Pharaoh unintentionally and Allah, the Exalted and Glorious said: …” Prophet Musa (alayhis salam) unintentionally killed an Egyptian. He then went on to quote the verse related to it: “(And We favored you) when your sister went and said, 'Shall I direct you to someone who will be responsible for him?' So We restored you to your mother that she might be content and not grieve. And you killed someone, but We saved you from retaliation and tried you with a (severe) trial. And you remained (some) years among the people of Madyan. Then you came (here) at the decreed time, O Moses.” [Ref: 20:40] His intention is to insinuate; people of Iraq realise for killing of one person unintentionally Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) put Prophet Musa (alayhis salam) intro trial. You people of Iraq not only intentionally killed Hussain (radiallah ta’ala anhu) but also members of his family [brutally and barbaricly]. And Prophet Musa (alayhis salam) killed a disbeliever and he was put into trial for many years of his life; you people of Iraq killed those who were beloved to Messenger (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) and he quotes following prophetic words: "They (Hasan and Husain) are my two sweet-smelling flowers in this world.” Implying your trial and your suffering as result of killing of these Hassan (radiallah ta’ala anhu) and Hussain (radiallah ta’ala anhu) would be severe and harsh. 8.4 - Prophet Pointing Toward East Satan’s Group Will Emerge From It: Hadith narrates the following Prophetic words: “… he heard Allah's Messenger as saying while pointing his hand towards the east: Verily the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the group of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another and …” Note the referrence point of East is where Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) was located and the people whom he was with when he uttered the above words and not where Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) was. Even though the words of Hadith establish Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) was not in Iraq but a Iraqi man had come to him [in Makkah]: “I was present when a man asked Ibn Umar about the blood of mosquitoes. Ibn Umar said: "From where are you?" The man replied: "From Iraq." Ibn Umar said: "Look at that! He is asking me about the blood of Mosquitoes while they (the Iraqis ) have killed the (grand) son of the Prophet.” [Ref: Bukhari, B73, H23] Ahadith establish he stood beside the pulpit [of Masjid Nabvi] and pointed direction of sunrise, toward East, and toward house of Aysha (radiallah ta’ala anha): “Narrated Salim's father: The Prophet stood up beside the pulpit and said, "Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there, from the side where group of Satan will come out," or said, "... the group [from direction] of sun (rise) ..." [Ref: Bukhari, B88, H212] “Narrated 'Abdullah: The Prophet stood up and delivered a sermon, and pointing to 'Aisha's house, he said thrice, "Affliction (will appear from) here," and, "from the side, where Satan's head will come out." [Ref: Bukhari, B53, H336] And we have already established that Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) pointed toward East, toward Najd, and Saudi capital of Riyadh. In this context if you interpret the following words Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) then it obviously mean Muslims/companions would fight each other after the group of Satan emerges from East: “Verily the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the group of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another and …” And after the emergence of Khawarij, they murdered Uthman (radiallah ta’ala anhu), Muslims killing each other, Ali (radiallah ta’ala anhu) VS Muawiyah (radiallah ta’ala anhu), started. Another interpretation of same portion is that Muslims VS Khawarij will kill each other. And this will be explained in the last section. Alhasil in context of question about killing flies/mosquitoes Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) is implying you should be more concerned about killing people and who you kill. 8.4 - Iraqis Were Not Group Of Satan But They In Fact Killed Khawarij: Kharijis subjected the Muslims of Iraq to barbaric murderous rampage and therefore Ali (radiallah ta’ala anhu) took the task of eliminating first spawns of Kharijism. In following Hadith Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) explained the traits of companions of Dhil Khuwaisirah at-Tamimi: “... Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) made a mention of a sect that would be among his Ummah which would emerge out of the dissension of the people. Their distinctive mark would be shaven heads. They would be the worst creatures or the worst of the creatures. The group who would be nearer to the truth out of the two would kill them.” [Ref: Muslim, B5, H2324] “... be smeared by dung and blood. The sign by which these people will be recognized will be a man whose one hand (or breast) will be like the breast of a woman. These people will appear when there will be differences among the people (Muslims)." Abu Sa'id added: I testify that I heard this from the Prophet and also testify that 'Ali killed those people while I was with him. The man with the description given by the Prophet was brought to 'Ali. The following Verses were revealed in connection with that very person: 'And among them are men who accuse you (O Muhammad) in the matter of (the distribution of) the alms.” (Surah 9:58) [Ref: Bukhari, B84, H67] Note this Dhil Kuwaisirah at-Tamimi and his companions are very same Khawarij aka Satan’s group which emerged from Najd and fought against Ali (radiallah ta’ala anhu) in Iraq. See following detailed article to this regard, here. Hadith establishes the group closer to truth was of Ali (radiallah ta’ala anhu) but it was composed of Iraqis and the Iraqis had killed members of Satan’s group aka Khawarij: ”A man throws an arrow at the prey (or he said at the target), and sees at its iron head, but finds no sign (of blood there), or he sees at the lowest end, but would not see or find any sign (of blood there). He would then see into the grip but would not find (anything) sticking to it. Abu Sai'd then said: People of Iraq. it is you who have killed them.” [Ref: Muslim, B5, H2324] 8.5 - Truth About Iraq And Falsehood Of Abdullah: Earlier it was established the Khawarij were over whelmingly from Bani Tamim. A tribe which was/is situated in Arabian Peninsula, East of Madinah, around modern Saudi capital Riyadh, which is precisely the historical Najd from which Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) foretold Satan’s group would emerge. They marched with Ali’s (radiallah ta’ala anhu) army to Syria to fight Muawiyah (radiallah ta’ala anhu) and after arbitration became disillusioned with Ali (radiallah ta’ala anhu) and parted his company. They then gathered in Iraq in village of Harura and due to their actrocities Ali (radiallah ta’ala anhu) confronted them in battle. The bulk of his army was composed of Iraqis because his capital was Baghdad. And it was the Iraqis who dealt the death blow to Khawarij [at Nahrawan]. All this establishes Iraqis were not Khawarij but the Iraqis were responsible for killing Khawarij. They in fact were from Najd and from Bani Tamim. Our brother Abdullah attempted to make Muslims believe Iraqis were Khawarij but the truth is Khawarij were outsiders who assembled in Iraq and were recognised as a new sect in Iraq. 9.0 - Hadith Of Dajjal In Iraq, Syria And In East: Hadith 7:“We said: Yes. Thereupon he said: If it is so that is better for them that they should show obedience to him. I am going to tell you about myself and I am Dajjal and would be soon permitted to get out and so I shall get out and travel in the land, and will not spare any town where I would not stay for forty nights except Mecca and Medina as these two (places) are prohibited (areas) for me and … Behold he (Dajjal) is in the Syrian sea (Mediterranean) or the Yemen sea (Arabian sea). Nay, on the contrary, he is in the East, he is in the East, he is in the East, and he pointed with his hand towards the east.” [Ref: Muslim, B41, H7028] Comments:- Just take a glance at World Map,Saudi Arabia comes no where between Syria and Iraq and now read the below Hadith. Hadith 8:“Thereupon he said: I harbor fear in regard to you in so many other things besides the Dajjal. If he comes forth while I am among you, I shall contend with him on your behalf, but if he comes forth while I am not amongst you, a man must contend on his own behalf and Allah would take care of every Muslim on my behalf. He would be a young man with twisted, contracted hair, and a blind eye. I compare him to `Abd-ul-`Uzza b. Qatan. He who amongst you would survive to see him should recite over him the opening verses of Sura Kahf (xviii). He would appear on the way between Syria and Iraq and would spread mischief right and left. O servant of Allah! adhere (to the path of Truth). We said: Allah's Messenger, how long would he stay on the earth? He said: For forty days, one day like a year and one day like a month and one day like a week and the rest of the days would be like your days.” [Ref: Muslim, B41, H7015] Hadith 9: “Narrated Salim's father: The Prophet stood up beside the pulpit and said, "Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there, from the side where group of Satan will come out," or said, "... the group [from direction] of sun (rise) ..." [Ref: Bukhari, B88, H212] Hadith 10: “Narrated Ibn 'Umar: I heard Allah's Apostle while he was facing the East, saying, "Verily! Afflictions are there, from where the side of the head of Satan comes out." [Ref: Bukhari, B88, H213] Hadith 18: “Thawban said: If you see the black flags coming from Khurasan then go there even if you have to crawl because there is the Khalifah of Allah, the Mahdi." [Ref: Mustadrak al-Hakim, Book Of Tribulations H8578, here] Comments:- It is crystal clear from above Ahadith that ''East'' refers to ''IRAQ''.If still Barelwi disagree 'East as Iraq',then they must go to Saudi Arabia(Hijaz) to Give Bayat to Imam Mehdi in Saudi Arabia not in Khurasan.” 9.1 - Something Related And Unrelated To Above Content: I have only quoted in above Ahadith numbered by brother Abdullah as; seven, eight, nine, and ten. Following are being omitted because they add nothing new to his point: Ahadith number eleven, fourteen, sixteen, seventeen are about tribulation of East. And Ahadith number twelve, thirteen, fifteen are about Khawarij but do not explicitly referr to East. Despite this there is no objection on my part if they are applied upon tribulation of East because they do referr to Khawarij. Brother Abdullah distorting this Hadith kind of hurt because he made me realize how desperate and degraded human can become when there is no way out. And it was first time when I raised my hands in Dua for his guidance. May Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) open our eyes, and hearts, and minds to truth of Islam and guide us to straight path of Islam. Coming to his comment; I cannot comprehend why Saudi Arabia should be between Syria and Iraq. Or how it would help his cause. I assume he misread the Hadith. It says Dajjal will appear between Syria and Iraq. And Dajjal appearing between Syria and Iraq is possible ofcourse because borders of both countries are connected. After bit of head banging I think I figured what the relationship of comment to content is. According to Ahadith Dajjal will approach and appear in Arabia from a way which is between Syria and Iraq. And in this context he is saying that information of his second Hadith doesn’t fit into it. It is very likely brother Abdullah isn’t aware that modern Syria is only about sixty percent of what it originally was. Al-Sham comprimised of Lebanon, Israel, Jordon, and parts of present day Syria. If you put all these into context then Dajjal coming to Arabia from between Syria and Iraq would become apparent. 9.2 - Commenting On Hadith Of Dajjal In Iraq And East: Brother Abdullah is insinuating Iraq is East of Madinah because Dajjal is to come from Iraq and Prophet also said Dajjal will emerge from East. Putting one and one togather with healthy dose of logic he arrived at the sum of Iraq is East [therefore by Najd intended region was Iraq and due to this Ahadith of Najd referr to Iraq]. At the end of Hadith eighteen Abdullah stated: “It is crystal clear from above Ahadith that ''East'' refers to ''Iraq''. If still Barelwi disagree 'East as Iraq',then they must go to Saudi Arabia(Hijaz) to Give Bayat to Imam Mehdi in Saudi Arabia not in Khurasan.” Glad that he wasn’t insinuating but he stated what he believed. Even though Hadith clearly establishes East is direction of sunrise. And if you recall a resident of Madinah will never and can never see sunrise from Iraq. Revisit following link to refresh your memory why that would be so; here. 9.3 - Dajjal In East And Its True Meaning Explained By Prophet: It is stated in above quoted Ahadith and underlined; Dajjal will enter/visit every [major] city of world in forty days. This points to Dajjal going to all over the world; East, West, North, and South from place of his origin but the place of Dajjals origin is East: “Nay, on the contrary, he is in the East, he is in the East, he is in the East, and he pointed with his hand towards the east.” Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) explained what he meant by East in following Ahadith: “It was narrated that Abu Bakr Siddiq said: "The Messenger of Allah told us: 'Dajjal will emerge in a land in the East called Khorasan, and will be followed by people with faces like hammered shields.'" [Ref: Ibn Majah, B36, H4072] “Abu Bakr As-Siddiq said: "The Messenger of Allah narrated to us, saying: 'The Dajjal shall emerge from a land in the East called Khurasan. He is followed by a people whom appear as if their f aces are shields coated with leather.'" [Ref: Tirmadhi, B7, H2237] 9.4 - Imam Mahdi Coming From East And Khorasan: For some weird reason brother Abdullah the DIY Shaykh decided to quote following Hadith: “Thawban said: If you see the black flags coming from Khurasan then go there even if you have to crawl because there is the Khalifah of Allah, the Mahdi." [Ref: Mustadrak al-Hakim, Book Of Tribulations H8578, here] I haven’t been able to figure out how this would have helped his cause of Najd being Iraq and Iraq being East but whatever. My objective in quoting the following Ahadith would be to only establish Khurasan is East and it is only for purpose of attesting to what was already quoted: “It was narrated from 'Abdullah bin Harith bin Jaz' Az-Zabidi that the Messenger of Allah said: "People will come from the East, paving the way for Mahdi." Meaning (paving the way) for his rule.” [Ref: Ibn Majah, B36, H4088] “It was narrated from Thawban that the Messenger of Allah said: "Three will fight one another for your treasure, each one of them the son of a caliph, but none of them will gain it. Then the black banners will come from the East, and they will kill you in an unprecedented manner." Then he mentioned something that I do not remember, then he said: "When you see them, then pledge your allegiance to them even if you have to crawl over the snow, for that is the caliph of Allah, Mahdi." [Ref: Ibn Majah, B36, H4084] And Khorasan is in East of Madinah:“Thawban said: If you see the black flags coming from Khurasan then go there even if you have to crawl because there is the Khalifah of Allah, the Mahdi." [Ref: Mustadrak al-Hakim, Book Of Tribulations H8578, here] Maps in the following sections depict location of land of Khorasan and where Khorasan is in relationship to Arabia. 9.4 - Ancient Land Of Khorasan Is In East Of Madinah: 9.5 - Dajjal In East Of Madinah In Land Of Khorasan Established: All the above establishes what Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) meant when he said Dajjal will emerge from East. And he then himself explained; he meant Dajjal will emerge from East a land called Khurasan. And maps perfectly establish that indeed Khorasan is in almost exactly East of Madinah. And this evidence is enough to puncture the logical conclusion of our DIY Shaykh Abdullah. It is also important to point out for fourth time; brother Abdullah’s understanding is that Iraq is East is established via logic and not from factual interpretation of Hadith with Hadith. Propositions: i) Dajjal is to emerge from East. ii) Dajjal is to emerge from Iraq. Conclusion: Therefore Iraq is in East and will emerge from Iraq. This has nothing to do with interpreting Hadith with Hadith. Its pure logic of type that you would meet in online IQ tests. Two statements of esident of Saudi Arabia: i) There will be fight in East. ii) There will be fight in England. Conclusion: There will be in England because it is in East. This way of interpreting data completely ignores geographical locations of cities, provinces, countries and cardinal directions but purely based on bad understanding of logic. Interpretation of Hadith with Hadith refutes brother Abdullah’s position. Even though he assumes he is interpreting Hadith with Ahadith in reality he is only distorting the Ahadith with his faulty logic driven interpretations. Finally following article briefly explains Hadith of Dajjal coming from East and Iraq, here. And following one comprehsively explains why Dajjal will come to Iraq/Syria and you are strongly advised to read it, here. 9.6 - Final Word On Strategy Of DIY Shaykh Abdullah: DIY Shaykh Abdullah’s strategy is to take focus of Ahadith of Najd away from Saudi/historical province of Najd and put the all negativity toward Iraq is purely for basis of protecting Wahhabism and Shaykh Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab. And to achieve this hook and crook is all good. This is not scholarship nor display of sincerity in studying religion. Rather this type of DIY scholarship tightly shuts the door on face of ray of guidance that had made it way to door seeker. Brother Abdullah quoted Ahadith numbered nineteen and twenty and they have already been addressed in section 7.0 to 7.4. And it is advised you referr to that section. Remaining Article Of Brother Abdullah And Its Reality: The material directly relating to making Najd into Iraq was upto mentioned Ahadith. The remaining article of brother Abdullah is basicly implying all the evil things happened in Iraq therefore Ahadith of Najd referr to Iraq. And that Banu Tamim are portrayed in positive light in some Ahadith and man of Najd was told of entry to paradise therefore Banu Tamim are not [all] Khawarij and bad. And people of Iraq are most/all are bad and most/all tribulation and Khawarij emerged from there therefore Ahadith of Najd are about Iraq. We have already demonstrated where Iraq is, and where Najd is, and how Bani Tamim of Najd were part of Iraqi Khawarij. Najd and Iraq cannot legitimately be blendered into one and same however eagerly DIY Shaykh wants it to be. The perpherial issues of brother Abdullah, if Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) wills will be addressed in second article: Response To Abdullah The Khariji Of A’du-Allah- Evil And Virtues Of Iraqis-Najdis, And What It Is Established From Them. Conclusion: Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) pointed toward East, he mentioned direction of sunrise, and he pointed toward the house of Aysha (radiallah ta’ala anha) to pin point direction from which Satan’s group was to emerge. In addition to all he also mentioned name of region in direction of East, toward the direction house of Aysha (radiallah ta’ala anha) as Najd. Ahadith also indicate; Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) pointed toward Iraq and foretold emergence of Satan’s group from Iraq. Considering the name and location of Iraq and Najd it is evident both reffer to two different regions. Iraq Hadith referrs to first group of Satan and Najd Hadith referrs to second manifestation of Satan’s group from Najd. Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen. Muhammed Ali Razavi. FootNotes: - [1] Note all Barelwis, who adhere to teaching of Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat (alayhi rahma) are Sufis and from Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah, in principle mehodology and core teachings, but not all Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah is Barelwi. Barelwism fundamentally is those to adhere to teaching of prophetic Sunnah and of Jammah under the guidance of Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat Imam Ahmad Raza Khan al-Qadri (alayhi rahma). And those who supported Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat (alayhi rahma) against the Deobandis and Ahle Hadith [a non-conformist Wahhabi sect] heresies of these sects which originated in subcontinent. The sole distinguishing feature between Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah and Barelwism; is Takfir of Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat (alayhi rahma) of Deobandi scholars; who insulted and disrespected Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam), also believe in possibility (i.e. imkan) of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) lieing, stated finality of Prophet Muhammad (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) would not be effected of another Prophet is born. To name them; Shaykh Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Shaykh Ismail Dehalvi, Shaykh Khalil Ahmad Saharanpuri, Shaykh Rasheed Ahmad Gangohi, and Shaykh Muhammad Qasim Nanotavi. Even though Fatawah Hussam al-Haramayn was attestted by scholars of Arab world during the life time of Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat (alayhi rahma) it did not become a international controversy. The result of Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat’s (alayhi rahma) fatwah greatly impacted subcontinent and the antangonism between Barelwis and Deobandis remained and was transmitted to future generations. As a result Barelwis of subcontinent have certain positions regarding Deobandis [based on core principles of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah] which non-subcontinent members of Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah may not hold. And this maybe due to either being misinformed by Deobandis or having absolutely no knowledge of their beliefs. But there is no doubt they would support Barelwi positions when they are informed about Deobandi beliefs like they supported Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat (alayhi rahma) in his life time. - [2] The Wahhabism originated in middle of 17th century lead by Najdi Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab. He split from the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jammah and created band of bandits blundering Muslim cities and kill Muslims mercilessly because Shaykh of Najd had declared that over whelming majority of Muslims of Arabia are polytheists except his own followers. Note prior to this Wahhabism and its teaching didn’t exist. Their method of determining major Shirk was never heard before them nor did the belief; vast majority of Muslim Ummah is upon major Shirk and has fallen into innovation. Authentic Ahadith contradict both these teachings. - [3] (i) This means; Western part of Arabia, the region of Hijaz, its inhabitants will remain upon truth of Islam uptil the day of judgment. (ii) Wahhabism emerged in central Arabia, region surrounding Saudi capital Riyadh, and their leader accused the people of Makkah and Madinah and their scholars of being polytheists, and claim none other then him knows meaning of; There is none worthy of worship except Allah: “And I inform you about myself – I swear by Allah whom there is none worthy to worship except Him – I have sought knowledge and those who knew me believed that I had knowledge while I did not know the meaning of La Ilaha Illa Allah at that time and did not know the religion of Islam before this grace that Allah favored. As well as my Shaikhs (teachers) no one among them knew that. And if someone from the scholars of al-Arid (the lands of Najd and surrounding areas) claims that he knew the meaning of La Ilaha Illa Allah or knew the meaning of Islam before this time, or claims on behalf of his teachers that someone from them knew that, then he has lied and said falsehood and deceived people and praised himself with something he does not possess.“ [Ref: al-Darur al-Saniyyah, here] And he explicitly stated this and meaning of this is that he alone knew Tawheed and implication of which is everyone but him was disbeliever because Tawheed is fundamental requirement to be a Muslim absence of which means Kufr. iii) Compare what the Hadith states and what Shaykh Muhammad Bin Abdul Wahhab, the Iblees of Najd has stated, and think for yourself and ask: Were the people of Hijaz upon truth of Islam, or was Shaykh of Najd upon truth of Islam?
  6. Kissi kay ilm mein heh kay Sayyidi Ala Hazrat ka hayat e Isa alayhis salam par kia mowaqif thah aur Sayyidi Ala Hazrat nay joh wafat ka qail ho us kay mutaliq kia likha heh? Jazakallah khair.
  7. Bukhari aur Muslim ki rawayat say sachi aur suchi aur sahih aur behtreen rawayat abh Tareekh Ibn woh aur Tareekh Ibn falan mein hen. Ayn Islam aur sahih aqeedah hi tareekh ki kutub mein heh ... Bukhari shareef mein toh esi wesi har kism ki ehri gehri batenh hen. Allah kay Quran kay baad darja thiqahat Tareekhi kutub ka hee heh ... Bukhari Shareef toh un kay darjay mein bi nahin rahi. Aur Sayyidi Ala Hadhrat (rahimullah) say Mufti Hanif Qureshi behtr ho gaya. Mujtahid aur Mujadid say chawani ka Mufti afzal qubul aur daleel mein maqbool heh. Bandoon ki aqal ka haal yeh heh kay maan-neh par aahen toh parlay darjay say bi parlay darjay ki kutub ki kahaniyoon ko ayn Islam bana lenh aur nam maneh par aahen toh Quran ki wazia ayaat ka inqaar kar denh. Aaj kay dawr mein Deen Quran Hadith ki bunyad nahin aur nah sabat hota heh aaj toh tabiat Deen heh ... joh Tabiat ko pasand aahi agar parlay darjay ki kitab mein milli baghayr sochay samjay wahi e illahi samaj kar ilmaan leh ahay. Bukhari shareef ki rawayat kay muqabileh mein abhi kahani baazi ki kitaben maqbool hen jin mein har kism ki chavlen aur khurafat darj hen.
  8. And why should we be concerned with Shia not believing what is authentically establishd? Is your belief in Islam dependent upon their acceptance of it or on Quran and Ahadith? If Abu Talib's Iman issue was so destructive to Islam of a Muslim rest assured scholars wouldn't have disagreed with each other and agreed that it is disputed and valid difference of opinion. To believe Abu Talib died upon Kufr and Shirk and will be in hell on basis of authentic Ahadith is far better to believe he became Muslim and will enter paradise on basis of weak and fabricated Ahadith.
  9. Deception And Example Of Do As I Say Not As I Do: Attempt was made to revisit/recall the discussion and then remembered during at some point of discussion, my argument was the meaning of first part of Hadith is same as the part which followed. In other words, meaning of following part of Hadith: “He who introduced some good Sunnah (i.e. practice, way, tradition, precedent) in Islam which was followed after him (by people) he would be assured of reward like one who followed it, without their rewards being diminished in any respect.” [Ref: Muslim, B34, H6466] Is same as understanding of following part of Hadith: “And he who introduced some evil Sunnah in Islam which had been followed subsequently (by others), he would be required to bear the burden like that of one who followed this ..." [Ref: Muslim, B34, H6466] In order to explain this latter part and then to fit the - innovation - understanding for good Sunnah part of Hadith I quoted a Hadith from Tirmadhi to explain quoted Hadith:“And whoever introduces an innovation (Bid'ah) that is acted upon, will have a burden of sins equivalent to that of those who act upon it, withot that detracting from the burden of those who act upon it in the slightest.'"[1] [Ref: Ibn Majah, B1, H209] I quoted the Hadith for first time with some ‘hiccups’ (i.e. unclarity) and decided to repeat the words for smoothness Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) interjected; Sahih Bukhari is only authentic book of Hadith. Maybe holds the same view about Sahih Muslim but do not recall him attesting to Sahih Muslim. Maybe he does because the Hadith of good Sunnah is from Sahih Muslim. Any how I had initiated the discussion by asking him for the source of following Hadith: "Ibn Abbas said he did tawaf of Baytullah with Muawiyah. Muawiyah kissed all the corners of the Kabah. Ibn Abbas said: Why are you kissing these corners when Prophet did not kissed? Muawiyah replied: Nothing in Baytullah should be left. Ibn Abbas replied The life of Prophet is best moral for you. Muawiyah said: You are truthful." [Ref: Msnd Imam Ahmad, H1880] He said it was recorded in Sahih of Imam Bukhari (rahimullah). Mini-Shaykh just one day before the dicussion with Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) tole me that his Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) believes in Ahadith of Sahih Bukhari. So when I asked him he lied about the source of Hadith to perserve his ‘scholarly’ clout. He had been telling them the Hadith is from Sahih Bukhari and being trusting sheeps they believed him. Now he could not tell the truth in presence of his peers so he lied about where Hadith was. Shaykh’s (hafidha-ullah) rule like typical Wahhabiyyah is end justifies means. When I quoted the Hadith he interjected saying it isn’t from authentic book of Hadith but for himself he quoted Musnad of Imam Ahmad (rahimullah). Had he told me the truth he would have exposed his double standard methodology to his peers; that when he wants to convince the gulliable idiots of his point of view is correct then whatever proves his point even in books which he deems invalid he would quote from and say: This is from Sahih Bukhari. Note: His source was a Wahhabi website dedicated to ‘refuting’ Islamic understandings and rather does spectacular job of establishing Ahlus-Sunnah’s understanding in garb of refuting it. And even that Wahhabi website attributed the Hadith to commentary of Fath al-Bari Sharh Sahih al-Bukhari of Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani (rahimullah) and not to Sahih of Imam Bukhari (rahimullah). Distorting And Lieing Hadith Of Good Sunnah: Shaykh quoted prophetic words as: ‘Whoever does good practice in Islam …‘ Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) was distorting Hadith so I interjected with correction: ‘Not does in Islam, who introduces in Islam, man san’na fil islami sunnatu hasanah (i.e. He who introduced some good Sunnah (i.e. practice, way, tradition, precedent) in Islam).’[2] He replied: You’re playing on the grammar. I replied: Of course it is (issue of grammar). He said: ‘You’re interpreting it as you want to interpret it. The narration how the scholars interpreted it was: Whoever does good action in Islam. If your interpretation is better then Imam Shafi (rahimullah) according to you then fair be it I will go with Imam Shafi (rahimullah).’” [Ref: Audio recording, 0:2:45 onwards] Readers should note in the beginning of discussion Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) was employing same translation as mine but once Islamic point was made he started to distort the Hadith. Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) repeatedly in the entire discussion deliberately and knowingly presented distorted translation. He changed introduces to does, practice to action, and had the discussion gone longer he would likely had changed in to of: Whoever does good action of Islam. Coming to what he said. Please note I trusted his word when he attributed his understanding to Imam Shafi (rahimullah). I abandoned the discussion because his claim needed verification. Secondly I abandoned the discussion on this point after his statement because I felt it was his word against mine and the audience will not be able to decide. So if the word Sunnah was translated to mean practice and san’na to mean practices the Hadith would have read: ‘Whoever practices good practice in Islam.’ Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) translated san’na to mean does, which denotes meaning of practices. Shaykh is patently lieing; the word san’na has been explained, here. And you will note it does not mean practice it means to introduce, to prescribe, to enact, to insitute, to form, to mold. Therefore to translate it to mean does/practices is Ibleesiyat of worst kind. Attributing Distortion To Imam Shafi (rahimullah): Coming to what he attributed to Imam Shafi (rahimullah). As far as internet is concerned, I am confident there is not a single statement of Imam Shafi (rahimullah) in which he commented on Hadith of; whoever introduces good Sunnah in Islam. Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) is once again was patently lieing and doing what he does best lie and decieve. Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) is under burden of Shariah to prove his claim because Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) said: “’On the authority of Ibn Abbas; the Messenger of Allah said: Were people to be given everything that they claimed, men would (unjustly) claim the wealth and lives of (other) people. But, the onus of proof is upon the claimant, and the taking of an oath is upon him who denies.’A hasan hadeeth narrated by al-Baihaqee and others in this form, and part of it is in the two Saheehs.” [Ref: Forty Ahadith – Nawavi, Hadith 33] If he cannot, and insha’Allah he will never be able to, then he should accept he lied but to expect demonstration of moral spine from Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) is too much to ask. And Imam Shafi (rahimullah) is reported to have clasified innovation in religion is of two types, good and bad: “It was narrated to us by Muhammad ibn Musa ibn al-Fadl who had it narrated to him from Abul-Abbas Al-Asam who said Rabi’ ibn Sulayman narrated to us from Imam ash-Shafi’i that he said: “Innovated matters in religion (min Al-Umur) are of two kinds: 1) Whatever is innovated and contravenes the Book, or the Sunnah, or a narration, or Ijma (consensus) – then that is an innovation of misguidance. 2) Whatever is innovated of [any and all good things [min al-khayr] and that does not contradict any of these – then this is a novelty which is not blameworthy. And ‘Umar (radiya Allahu ‘anhu) said concerning the night-prayer in the month of Ramadan: ‘ni’matu bida’at hadhihi‘ what a good innovation this is’ meaning it was innovated without having existed before and, even so, there was nothing in it that contradicted the above.” [Ref: Manaqib al-Imam al-Shafi, Vol1, Pages468/469, here.] The very point which Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) contended such as permissibility and concept of good innovation and evil innovation is proven from Imam al-Shafi (rahimullah). And Imam al-Shafi (rahimullah) contradicting the very basis of his mentioned position would be counter productive for him. Meaning understanding Hadith of good Sunnah contrary to following; whoever introduces good Sunnah in Islam establishes concept and permissbility of introducing good innovations in Islam would undermine Imam al-Shafi’s (rahimullah) own belief. Therefore it is unthinkable that Imam al-Shafi (rahimullah) would have believed what Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) attriubted to him but challenge is still out there for Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) to prove his lie and deception. Going With Imam al-Shafi (rahimullah) Or Is Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) Going Solo: Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) had perfectly staged Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) humiliation. While lieing about Imam al-Shafi’s (rahimullah) understanding Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) said: “If your interpretation is better then Imam Shafi (rahimullah) according to you then fair be it I will go with Imam Shafi (rahimullah).” Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) are you going to believe as Imam al-Shafi (rahimullah) believed and understand the subject as he did? Or as your deviant and Najdi group of Satan does. For me is way of Imam al-Shafi (rahimullah) and you be upon the path of Ibleesi group of Najd. Praise be to Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) who had magnificantly exposed an enemy of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and his Messenger (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam), and exposed who distorts religion of Islam for little gain of wordly respect of his friends and peers. Imam al-Nawavi (rahimullah) Commented On Hadith Of Good Sunnah In Islam: The only classical era scholar whose writing on Hadith of good Sunnah in islam available on internet in my knowledge is of Imam Nawawi (rahimullah). He is wrote the following in his commentary of Sahih Muslim: “His saying: "Whoever enacted starts a good Sunnah in Islam will have its reward ..." to the end of (the hadeeth). This contains encouragement to initiate Hasanaat (i.e. plural of Hasanah; good) and to enact the good Sunnahs and a warning from inventing falsehoods and repugnant things (mustaqbahaat). And the reason behind this statement in this hadeeth is that he (the narrator) said at the beginning of it, "Then a person came there with a money bag which his hands could scarcely lift; in fact, they could not (lift). Then the people followed continuously (in giving)..." So the great virtue was for the one who began this goodness and the one who opened the door to this benevolence. And within this hadeeth is the [evidence of] Takhsees (i.e. restriction/specification) of his [Mutliq/Unrestricted] saying: "Every newly-introduced matter is an innovation, and every innovation is misguidance" And that the intent behind it is the newly introduced matters and blameworthy innovations. And the explanation of this has already preceded in Kitab al-Salat al-Jumu'ah and we mentioned there that innovations are of five types: obligatory, recommended, unlawful, disliked and permitted.” [Ref: Sharh Of Sahih Muslim, by Imam Nawawi rahimullah, Kitab al-Zakah, 7/104] And I have explained this statement in detail in the following article, here, please referr to following response: MuhammedAli [25th Oct 2017 20:05]. A Salafi brother with name of Aamir Iqbal quoted this statement of Imam al-Nawavi (rahimullah) and it spectacularly failed on him. And I can say: Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) I will stand with Imam al-Nawavi (rahimullah). What about you: Will you still stand with Ibleesi group of Najd? Coins Example - Shaykh Making Up Understanding As He Went: I quote: “So the narration was; whoever does a good practice in Islam will be rewarded for it. In Islam. It is already in Islam. Whoever does good practice in Islam will be rewarded for it and whoever does bad action and people follow it. It will be blameworthy. The context was Sahabah giving charity. Charity is already in Islam. Whoever does good practice … Afterwards Sahabah gave coins to poor people. Afterwards lots of people came and they gave coins. This giving coins was already in Islam. Sadaqah is already in Islam. He did it. The words he is using is Sunnah and he is confusing the word Sunnah with action (with diferent kinds of Sunnah). When he says Sunnah why does he deliberately …” [Ref: Audio recording 00:10:25 onwards to 00:11:52] Even though here Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) said giving (silver) coins was already part of Islam (as prophetic Sunnah or approved prophetic Sunnah). He later went on to say that this was introduced newly by companion. No one ever gave charity with coins before this incident. And he went to explain that if he was to give charity with modern notes it would be a new practice in Islam: “Evil action in islam is action is one that is not established (in Islam). Sadaqah is established (practice in Islam). Sadaqah is in Islam, already. Prophet had told us to give, the Quran said give Sadaqah. Its all there (in Islam).‘Whoever introduces good practice in Islam.’ Meaning there could be different variations.[3] So he started going (silver) coins. This wasn’t specifically done before to for the poor people. He got it from the Sunnah. He did a good action in Islam. Then people started giving silver coins. So today, the context would be I give (money) notes to a poor person. No one specifically gave (money) notes before. No Sahabah specifically gave ten pound note to a poor person. So I am giving Sadaqah. I am introducing a action of giving ten pounds. I give ten pound note to next man over there. He needs it. You follow me give ten pound. You follow me give ten pound. We are doing something that is already established from religion (i.e. giving Sadaqah).” [Ref: Audio recording 00:16:05 onwards to 00:17:08] This establishes Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) was evolving his understanding as discussion was progressing. Shaykhs’s Silver Coins Expose Shaykh (hafidha-ullah): Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) states: “So he started going (silver) coins. This wasn’t specifically done before to for the poor people.” On the face value Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) has just confirmed a innovation, a unheard of good Sunnah was introduced by companion who started to give silver coins. And this established Islamic understanding that statement of Hadith of good Sunnah, whoever introduces good Sunnah/practice in Islam, was regarding things which were not already part of Islam. Shaykh Throws In A Damage Control Statement: He then damage controls by saying: “He got it from the Sunnah.” Question is if none had specifically done this before the companion who initiated the practice of giving silver coins for poor bedouins then how could he get it from (prophetic) Sunnah? If you say; Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) gave silver coins in Sadaqah but not to poor people and the companions was giving Sadaqah with coins to poor people. Then my question to you is: Who did Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) give Sadaqah to; rich and affluent Muslims? If you say no he didn’t give Sadaqah to rich and afluent but he gave to poor people. This will mean you believe giving Sadaqah to poor persons with silver coins is prophetic Sunnah. Then why would you say about the companion the following: “So he started going (silver) coins. This wasn’t specifically done before to for the poor people.” The reason is simple Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) you were inventing stuff and attempting to plug holes you created yourself with caveats. Your lie doesn’t stand to criticism Shaykh (hafidha-ullah). You have to either acknowledge giving Sadaqah to poor people was prophetic Sunnah. Or believe companions started the practice of giving Sadaqah with silver coins to poor people. You can’t have both, ya Shaykh (hafidha-ullah). Knowing you, ya Shaykh (hafidha-ullah), you will make up something that you didn’t mean companion started new practice of giving Sadaqah to poor persons with silver coins. I want to check mate you with your own words. You yourself explained what you meant, regarding companions action, by giving modern example: “So today, the context would be I give (money) notes to a poor person. No one specifically gave (money) notes before. No Sahabah specifically gave ten pound note to a poor person. So I am giving Sadaqah. I am introducing a action of giving ten pounds. I give ten pound note to next man over there. He needs it. You follow me give ten pound. You follow me give ten pound. We are doing something that is already established from religion (i.e. giving Sadaqah).” In another time Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) said: “The good practice here (in the Hadith) was specifically the silver or the gold coins. That was the good practice. [His friend interjected: ‘The companion introduced new way of giving Sadaqah.’] Exactly! No one gave to these specific people before. Do you understand? No one gave coins to the people. So it was new action but it was from Shari’ah.” [Ref: Audio recording from 00:48:55 onwards to 00:49:22] From this it becomes clear that you meant companions introduced something which no one did before in his time. So why would you say following, “He got it from the Sunnah.”, simply because you’re erecting walls of correct understanding and then making holes in them and then attempting to plug the holes to make it look there is no fault/contradiction in your understanding. Bottom line is Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) you already conceded what we the Muslims wanted you to agree to; Hadith of good Sunnah in Islam means a newly invented practice, not a prophetic Sunnah, but it is good practice, which was not done before but agreed with teaching of Islam, and for this type of innovated good practice there is reward. Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) Stabs Himself In Head: Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) said: “The good practice here (in the statement of Hadith) was specifically the silver or the gold coins. That was the good practice. [His friend interjected: ‘The companion introduced new way of giving Sadaqah.’] Exactly! No one gave to these specific people before. Do you understand? No one gave coins to the people. So it was new action but it was from Shari’ah.” [Ref: Audio recording from 00:48:55 onwards to 00:49:22] This is precisely what we wanted him to acknowledge and believe. When a practice even though is new but when it accords with teaching of Islam it is rewardworthy and it is not effected by every innovation is misguidance. A Deception Of Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) And He Leaves Imam Shafi (rahimullah): Note Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) will now use my translation of Hadith: “Evil action in islam is action is one that is not established (in Islam). Sadaqah is established (practice in Islam). Sadaqah is in Islam, already. Prophet had told us to give, the Quran said give Sadaqah. Its all there (in Islam). ‘Whoever introduces good practice in Islam.’ Meaning there could be different variations. So he started going (silver) coins. This wasn’t specifically done before to for the poor people. He got it from the Sunnah. He did a good action in Islam. Then people started giving silver coins. So today, the context would be I give (money) notes to a poor person. No one specifically gave (money) notes before. No Sahabah specifically gave ten pound note to a poor person. So I am giving Sadaqah. I am introducing a action of giving ten pounds. I give ten pound note to next man over there. He needs it. You follow me give ten pound. You follow me give ten pound. We are doing something that is already established from religion (i.e. giving Sadaqah).” [Ref: Audio recording 00:16:05 onwards to 00:17:08] This is the same translation which he had been at odds with until then. But why the change? Because the point he is making and position he was about to adopt requires change of translation. Until then his position was; giving charity with silvers coins was already part of Islam, hence he required following translation, Whoever does good practice in Islam, but here he was about to change goal posts. So he went for my translation which incidently ‘allegedly’ was understanding of Imam Shafi (rahimullah) ten minutes before his change of heart. And, FAIR BE IT, he now has left Imam Shafi (rahimullah) for a man’s understanding about whom he indirectly alleged considers his understanding better then Imam al-Shafi (rahimullah): “‘You’re interpreting it as you want to interpret it. The narration how the scholars interpreted it was: Whoever does good action in Islam. If your interpretation is better then Imam Shafi (rahimullah) according to you then fair be it I will go with Imam Shafi (rahimullah).” [Ref: Audio recording, 0:2:45 onwards] Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen. Muhammed Ali Razavi. Foonotes: - [1] Hadith of every innovation is misguidance and the above quoted Hadith; one who introduces innovation and those who act on it will be equally responsible; is explained by following Ahadith: "Whoever introduces an innovation with which Allah and his Messenger are not pleased, he will have a (burden of) sin equivalent to that of those among the people who act upon it, without that detracting from their sins in the slightest.'" [Ref: Ibn Majah, B1, H210] A Hadith which does not please Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and his Messenger (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is said to be evil innovation in another Hadith: “And whoever introduces an erroneous innovation which Allah is not pleased with, nor His Messenger, then he shall receive sins similar to whoever acts upon it, without that diminishing anything from the sins of the people.'" [Ref: Tirmadhi, B39, H2677] - [2] I wrongly ‘quoted’ Arabic rendering of phrase in dispute. I have quoted the actual quote of Sahih Muslim in the above. In the heat of moment I quoted; man san’na sunnatah hasanah (i.e. whoever introduces good Sunnah), and even this I got wrong. Please note I was not being deceptive because the phrase I wrongly quoted didn’t have, fil islam (i.e. in Islam), and that would have been his advantage. The only words holding him accountable for proper understanding were these two words without which he could have argued introducing good Sunnah means prophetic Sunnah: man san’na sunnatah hasanah (i.e. whoever introduces good Sunnah). So it was to his advantage therefore I could not have been distorting Hadith to benefit him. If I was attempting to distort a Hadith it would have been for my own gain not his gain. - [3] He could mean: “Meaning there could be different variations (in translation of Hadith).” The reason for this is maybe he realized I just changed the translation so he made that vague statement to cover-up. His explanation agrees with the translation. Or he could have meant:“Meaning there could be different variations (in understanding of this Hadith).” If he inteded the second then even then his explanation supports his translation. Whatever he intended out of two in both cases translation and his explanation are partners.
  10. Jahan taq mujjay ilm heh Allamah Sahib nay ruju keeya thah jis say joh waja takfir huwi rafa huwi.
  11. Baber Saab Ummat kay un jayyid Ulamah ka kia keren gay jinnoon nay Ibn Taymiyyah lanatulillah ko Kafir tehraya ... Agar tareefi kalamat say woh acha sabat ho jata heh toh Kufr aur Kafir ka hukum jari karnay waloon ki waja say Kafir sabat ho jahay ga? Ummat mein jamhoor Ulamah nay kam say kam Ibn Taymiyyah ko Biddati mana aur minority say kuch esay huway jinoon nay ussay Kafir aur kuch nay ussay acha jana ... Maulviyoon ki batoon par jahen toh phir Imam Bukhari (rahimullah) ki maan kar Imam Abu Hanifah (rahimullah) ko gumrah maneh gay? Har giz nahin. Jinoon nay Ibn Taymiyyah ki tareef ki unoon nay Husn e Zann ya phir Kufriat ko dekha nah aur us kay waseeh Ilm say mutasir huway. Jinoon nay Kafir aur gumrah tehraya unoon nay Ibn Taymiyyah ki talimat ... Allah ka arsh par ana ... haath, pahoon, ... tajseem ki bina par hukum Kufr lagaya joh is ki kutub say sabat hen. Agar Maulviyoon aur bandoon ki tareef say faislay honay lagay toh phir Mirza Qadiyani ki tareef mein Deobandiyon aur Wahhabiyoon kay iqwal mil jahen gay. Har kohi joh kuch kissi kay mutaliq janta heh us kay mutabiq ra'i rakhta heh. Aur jinoon nay Kufriat ko jan kar bi acha jana woh us kay Kufr mein useeh jesay shamil hen.
  12. Salam alayqum, Janab kia esay ilfaaz joh upar rawayat mein naqal aur Sahabah say mansoob hen RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ki Sunnat hen? Hammen hukum aswatul hasana par chalnay ka heh. Jazbat mein kissi Sahabi say agar sakht kalam nikla toh us ka istimal jaiz nahin ho jata aur nah apni harkatoon par parda dalnay kay wasteh Sahabah say mansoob ilfaaz ko bator daleel banana aqalmandi heh. Sahabah kay gunnah maaf huway aur jannat mein dakhal honay ka wada pa chukay. Agar yeh un kay ilfaaz hotay bi toh kam say kam khata jazbat mein niklay aur ziyada say ziyada gunnah hen. Aur woh bi jazbat mein khilaf character say niklay yeh un ka orna pichona nahin thah aur nah subho sham har kissi kay wasteh esay ilfaaz istimal kartay; yeh baat nahin thee kay zera si baat par shoroon ho gay balkay agar yeh ilfaaz un say agar niklay bi toh bi bardasht ki hadd say bahir samjay toh. Aur kissi Sahabi nay in ko jaiz nahin kaha aur nah kissi nay samja. Jissay ahle zuban towheen aur ghali samjen gali aur towheen hee heh yahi ham Deobandiyoon say manwana chahtay hen aur woh apnay Kafiroon kay kufr ki taweelat kartay hen. Kissi ko dalla, kanjar, marasi, khanzir, soowar, zaleel, harami, lanti, kutta, dangar doctor ka beta, kehna kohi achi baat nahin. Agar aap in batoon aur khurafat ka difa kar rahay hen toh phir kon say ilfaz is Hadith ki zabd say bahir hen: "'Abdullah narrated that the Messenger of Allah said: "The momin does not insult others, nor curse, nor commit Fahishah, nor is he foul." [Ref: Tirmadhi, B1, H1977] Janab agar Sahabah nay esay ilfaaz istimal keeyeh toh kissi nay bi in ko jaiz nahin likha aur yaqeen kamil say kehta hoon kay unoon nay khud bi jaiz nah samja hoga. Magar aap esi zuban ko toh Islam mein jaiz aur jawaz sabat karna chah rahay hen. Yeh biddat e zalalat aap Islam mein dakhal mat keren. Mein aap kay points ka jawab joh Quran o Ahadith say hen deh deta hoon. Ghali asal mein tohmat heh. Yehni banday ko kutta kehna keun kay yeh jhooti tohmat heh is waja say ghali tehri. Kissi ko dalla (yehni pimp/dalal) kahen aur woh ho nah toh gali heh. Aur agar woh dalali karta ho toh phir shar'an ghali nahin teharti chahay awaam samjen bi toh. Sa'ri ghali ki taweel bi nahin qubul. Baqi rahay aap kay dalahil joh aap nay ghali ko halal karnay ki khatir pesh keeyeh thay woh aap janeh aur aap ki samaj.
  13. Salam alayqum, Allamah Ashraf Sialvi Sahib (rahimullah) nay apnay aqeedeh ki wazahat ki ... jis kay mutaliq logoon ko tashweesh huwi. Yeh bilqul wohi aqeedah biyaan keeya ja raha heh joh mera thah ... aur joh tamam Sunniyoon ka heh ... is kay khilaf kissi Sunni ka aqeedah ho toh batahay. Yeh pooray bayan ki recording heh:
  14. Distorting Sneezing Hadith And Statement Of Abdullah Ibn Umar: Today for the first time I had opportunity to sit down and listen to entire recorded discussion with Shaykh ul-Islam, al-Imam Faisal (hafidha-ullah). Near the end of discussion, while discussing with Shaykh al-Akbar, Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) said and I quote: “Muawiyah (radiallah ta’ala anhu) stopped kissing four corners of Kabah. Why? Because Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) kissed only two. When the other Sahabah sneezed ... when the companions sneezed [and said; al-hamdu-lillah was-salatu was-salamu ala rasool-lillah]. Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta'ala anhu) said: RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) only use to say: Al-hamdulillah! Not; al-hamdu-lillah was-salatu was-salamu ala rasool-lillah. And other companions stopped doing it. The evidence of companions was uswatun hasanah." I then remembered in the beginning of the discussion Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) employed same point against me. Please note none of his referrences were verified/checked during the discussion because I could not think someone may distort the Hadith. Also I had good opinion of Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) and believed in his academic integrity due to it. Possible Response To His Sneezing Argument: It has been four and half months roughly and I cannot recall what my response was but educated/programed response would have been as it follows. Hadith records: “Mujahid reported: I and 'Urwah b. Zubair entered the mosque and found 'Abdullah b. 'Umar sitting near the apartment of A'ishah and the people were observing the forenoon prayer. We asked him about their prayer, and he said: It is an innovation.” [Ref: Muslim, B7, H2883] “…and some people were offering the Duha prayer. We asked him about their prayer and he replied that it was an innovation." [Ref: Bukhari, B27, H4] He believed it not just an innovation but it was a fine/excellent innovation: “Ibn Ulayyah narrated to us, Jarir narrated, al-Hakim bin A'raj narrated; I asked Ibn Umar Muhammad[1] about Salat ad-Duha, while he was sitting near the house of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). He said: It is an innovation and what a fine innovation it is!" [Ref: Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah, Kitab Of Prayer – Salat ad-Duha, H3] In another Hadith he said it was most beloved innovation to him: "Narrated Muamar, narrated al-Zuhri, narrated [by Ibn Umar’s son] Sa'lim, [that his father] Ibn Umar said: At the time Uthman was killed no-one considered it desirable and the people did not innovate anything that is dearer to me than that prayer." [Ref: Musannaf Abd ar-Razzaq, Book Of Salat (No.2 ), Chapter al-Duha, H4868] Al-Hasil it is established he believed innovations can be good and not literally every innovation is evil. Playing it safe I would likely have said; if he prohibited saying, al-hamdulillah was-salatu was-salamu ala rasool-lillah, it must have been because Sunnah is better then innovated good practice not because he deemed it was part of every innovation taking to hell-fire. Note I presented the very same position (i.e. Sunnah is better then innovation) on issue of Amir Muawiyah (radiallah ta’ala anhu) being prevented from kissing the four corners of Kabah so it was likely repeated. If I didn’t say something along these lines then at the very least this would have been the course of action if I had got oppurtunity to express it. This way I would have muted his point and established Islamic understanding of good innovations from companion in addition to it. Hadith Of Sneezing And Abdullah Ibn Umar: Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) said: "When the other companions sneezed ... when the companions sneezed [and said; al-hamdu-lillah was-salatu was-salamu ala rasool-lillah]. Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta'ala anhu) said: (i) RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) only use to say: Al-hamdulillah! Not; al-hamdu-lillah was-salatu was-salamu ala rasool-lillah. (ii) And other companions stopped doing it. The evidence of companions was uswatun hasanah." And following is Hadith which Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) is referring to during discussion: "Narrated Hadrami, the freed slave of the family of Al-Jarud: From Nafi: ‘A man sneezed beside Ibn Umar and said: 'al-hamdulillah was-salamu ala rasulillah.’ So Ibn Umar said: 'I too say; al-hamdulillah was-salamu ala rasulillah.’ But this is not what the Messenger of Allah taught us. He taught us to say: 'Al-Hamdulillah Ala Kulli Hal.’" [Ref: Tirmadhi, B41, H2738] He claimed that Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) said: “RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) only use to say: Al-hamdulillah! Not; al-hamdu-lillah was-salatu was-salamu ala rasool-lillah.” Yet Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) had attributed following to Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam): “… the Messenger of Allah taught us. He taught us to say: 'Al-Hamdulillah Ala Kulli Hal.’” Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) claimed companions stopped saying it what he attributed to them after interjection of Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu): “And other companions stopped doing it.” Yet the reality is Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) says: “So Ibn Umar said: 'I too say; al-hamdulillah was-salamu ala rasulillah.’” And Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) follows it up with following: “But this is not what the Messenger of Allah taught us. He taught us to say: 'Al-Hamdulillah Ala Kulli Hal.’" In other words Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) is aware; al-hamdu-lillah was-salamu ala rasool-lillah, is an innovation but despite this he engages in it and is also aware what Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) taught. Lies And Deception Of Shaykh Exposed: Number one I can put down to confusing information of Ahadith because there is a Hadith in which Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) has intructed to say; al-hamdu-lillah in response to a sneeze. After all he by mistake inserted was-salatu when there was none: ”… al-hamdulillah was-salamu ala rasulillah.” Number two is not mistake it is deliberate attempt to misguide. He said: “Muawiyah (radiallah ta’ala anhu) stopped kissing four corners of Kabah. Why? Because Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) kissed only two.” There is no proof that Muawiyah (radiallah ta’ala anhu) stopped kissing the four corners of Kabah after Ibn Abbas (radiallah ta’ala anhu) pointed out Sunnah is better. At the very least not in the Hadith. He invented Muawiyah (radiallah ta’ala anhu) stopping part because it would helped his position that every innovation is evil. He deceptively invented that companions stopped saying, al-hamdulillah was-salamu ala rasoolillah, after Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu) said what Shaykh (hafidha-ullah) attributed to him because it would help his postion that every innovation is evil and it would make it appear that companions had his Wahhabi Minhaj. He also distorted the meaning of Sunnah to mean Amal and consistently omitted the translation of fil’Islam (i.e. in Islam) in order to restrict phrase; whoever introduces good Sunnah in Islam … to action of giving Sadaqa with silver coins. Please note these are main points … there are other nitty gritty details which all can help to paint a very accurate picture about dubious character and academic morals of our DIY Shaykh ul-Islam Wal Imam ul-Fuqaha which I am not getting into. When Conversation Is Recorded. Eventually Your Lies Will Catch-up To You. Wama ilayna ilal balaghul mubeen. Muhammed Ali Razavi FootNote: - [1] The apartment of Aishah (radiallah ta’ala anha) is house of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) and sittin near it was Abdullah Ibn Umar (radiallah ta’ala anhu): 'Abdullah b. 'Umar sitting near the apartment of Aishah and the people were observing the forenoon prayer. We asked him about their prayer, and he said: It is an innovation.” [Ref: Muslim, B7, H2883] And in the following Hadith one being asked is Muhammad and he too is said to be sitting near to house of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam): Ibn Ulayyah narrated to us, Jarir narrated, al-Hakim bin A'raj narrated; I asked Muhammad about Salat ad-Duha, while he was sitting near the house of Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). He said: It is an innovation and what a fine innovation it is!" ) but the narrator confused the name.radiallah ta’ala anhu] Details match therefore it was Ibn Umar (Musannaf Ibn Abi Shaybah, Kitab Of Prayer – Salat ad-Duha, H3Ref:
  15. Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) nay saray Quran ko shifa bataya heh ... aur Sahabah nay is ko shifa samja aur Ahadith mein aya heh kay RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) kuch parh kar khanay par dam keeya toh woh ziyada ho gaya ... jinta ziyada muqarrib ilahi itni ziyada barkat ... http://www.theonlyquran.com/hadith/Sahih-Bukhari/?chapter=71&hadith=631&pagesize=15
  16. Salam alayqum, Firqawariat kay mana ka pehlay tayyun zeroori heh. Firqa kay nazriat ka tahaffuz aur forigh firqawariat kehtay hen. Magr firqawariat ki kismein hen: 1a - Na-haq firqawariat: Ek nazria na-haq ko na-haq samajna aur na-haq jantay huway nazria ko Islam kay mutabiq batana. 1b - Na-haq firqawariat: Ek nazria na-haq ko haq samajna aur haq jantay huway nazria ko Islam kay mutabiq batana. 2 - Haq wali firqawariat: Ek Nazria haq ko haq samajna aur haq jantay huway Islam kay mutabiq batana aur difa karna. RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) nay farmaya kay Ummat 73 firqoon mein batay gi sirf ek jannati hoga baqi 72 jahanumi hoon gay. Note karyeh kay RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) nay joh ayn Islam par chaltay hoon gay un ko bi 73 firqoon mein say ek firqa ginna. Jis ka mana yeh huwa kay haq wali jammat joh jannati hogi woh bi Ummat mein ek Firqay ki hasiyat ikhtiyar kar jahay gi. Na-haq firqawariat (1a) mein kohi kameena aur ghaleez insaan paray ga. Magr afsos kay is na-haq mein bi kuch logh istera magan hen jistera yeh ayn Islam heh. Na-haq firqawariat (1b) wali firqawariat mein bot say logh dakhal hen, aur is darjay kay logh 72 firqoon mein aksiriat kay hen. Yeh logh apnay Ulamah ki han mein han milanay ki waja say is ka shikar hotay hen. Is tabkay ki dushman la-ilmi aur aqahid mein taqleed ko tarjeeh heh. In ki islah tehqeeq say ho sakti heh. Abh aahi Haq wali firqawariat, yehni number (2), yeh ahle haq, ahle iman, ahle islam, ahle sunnat, ki shaan heh, aur un ka sheva heh, is firqawariat mein ghalat, kufr, shirk ka radd heh, aur har kissi ko shamil hona chahyeh. Yeh Allah kay Nabi (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) ki Sunnat aur Allah (subhanahu wa ta'ala) ki Sunnat heh jis ka suboot pura Quran heh. Is leyeh gumrah karnay walay mamulat kay mutaliq apnay ilm mein izafa karna chahyeh yeh firqawariat jaiz heh. Najaiz joh woh 1a aur 1b wali aur us kay saath joh qatal aam hota heh, woh wali firqawariat qattan najaiz heh. Narazgi aur Qata talluqi: Narazgi do qism ki, ek dil wali: dil mein kufr/bad-mazbi ko bura jan-na aur dil mein is ka iqrar karna. Ek zahir wali: kufr/bad-mazhbi ki bunyad par qata talluq karna. Joh banday ilm nahin rakhtay un logoon kay wasteh zeroori heh kay woh qata-talluqi aur narazgi donoon keren. Taqay bad-mazboon ki suhbat mein reh kar gumra aur bad-mazhab nah ho-jahen. Ahle Ilm hazrat bil-khasoos joh hazrat specialist hen gumrahi ki islah mein un kay wasteh dil wali narazgi toh lazam heh ... zahir wali narazgi yehni qata talluqi zeroori nahin. Keun kay un ka kaam islah karna heh agar woh bad-mazhboon mein bethen gay nahin toh islah kesay keren gay. Alhasil mubaligh wasteh dil wali narazgi zeroori heh magr jahil wasteh donoon zeroori hen.
  17. In ko kuch nah kahen is ko Engrezi nahin aati. Is dafa maaf kar denh in ko itni taleem nain in ki. Deviant Latin ka lafz heh jis ka mana ... rastay say hata huwa ... kay hen aur English mein astray/deviant, Urdu mein gum-rah (rah = rasta, gum = khoya). Aur Farman e RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) heh kay joh apnay baroon ka adab nahin karta ham mein say nahin. Is leyeh in ko baroon ko jahalat aur jahil kehna bura nahin lagta. Ghaliban abba ko bi ineeh ilfaz say yad kartay hoon gay aur in ko bi pata heh kay jahalat mein in kay gar walay hen ya Saeedi Sahib magar apnoon ki jahalat dar guzr heh aur sochna gawara bi nahin kartay jahil kehna aur jahalat mein doobay huway gawara kesay keren gay. Dosri baat, kissi ko Shaytan kehna khoobi ki waja say hota heh ... jistera gadda, ullu, sher kay ilfaaz say banday ko bulaya jata heh ... Shaytan gumra karnay wala heh ... baqi aap aqal mand hen samaj gay hoon gay. Tahir ul-Qadri Westernisation kay injection laga raha heh Islam ko aur aap Tafziliyat/Rafziyat kay. Deviant toh phir fit ata heh. Allah kay Nabi nay farmaya Jamhoor kay rastay ko apnana aur yeh ... Kabah kay chakkar toh hen tawaf nahin ... sun kar hubb e Ali (radiallah ta'ala) kay nashay mein Jamhoor ko ghalat sabat karnay nikal ahay. Shaytan tooh bara kameena heh. Tesri baat Mawla bamana Abd bi banta heh ... aur RasoolAllah ka farmana kay jis ka mein Mawla hoon Abd kay manay mein leeya jahay toh ... Allah kay Abd RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was'sallam) huway aur Abdullah Ali (radiallah ta'ala anhu) bi huway. Panchween baat kay Afziliat e Abu Bakr (radiallah ta'ala anhu) toh Ali (radiallah ta'ala anhu) aur un kay apnay khoon say sabat heh: "It was narrated that Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah (who was the son of ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib) said: “I said to my father, ‘Which of the people was the best after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)?’ He said, ‘Abu Bakr.’ I said, ‘Then who?’ He said, ‘Then ‘Umar.’ I was afraid that he would say ‘Uthmaan. I said, ‘Then is it you?’ He said, ‘I am only one of the Muslims.’” Ek aur Hadith mein Ali (radiallah ta'ala anhu) nay farmaya: "Narrated by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad, 839. It was narrated from Abu Juhayfah that ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) ascended the minbar and praised and glorified Allaah and sent blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then he said: “The best of this ummah after its Prophet is Abu Bakr. The second is ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him), and after that, whoever Allaah wants to be good will be good.” Nah Afziliat kay pappar behlo kuch hasil nahin ... Ali (radiallah ta'ala anhu) say bughz rakhnay walay kay naseeb mein tawaf nahin chakkar Kabah toh huway ... jin kay dilloon mein bughz e Siddeeq (radiallah ta'ala anhu) heh farishtay tumaray tawaf ko tawaf toh door chakkar bi nah likhen gay. Shahid farishtay likhen kay yeh jamya hi neeh.
  18. Meray pass Allamah Muhammad Muhi ad-Deen Jhangeer ka tarjumah Shabir Brothers ka publish, saal 2011, ka publish huwa mojood heh. Is mein abhi check keeya heh mojood heh. Aap ko ghalti lagi heh, Surah Saad ki aakhiri Hadith check kar lenh.
  19. Salam alayqum, Bhai yeh Hadith nikalnay ka kohi jawaz nahin banta ... aap ko ghalti lagi hogi. Yeh kaam Deobandi aur Wahhabi kartay hen. Sunniyoon ka yeh tareeka pehlay nahin thah aur abh bi nahin.
  20. It was narrated that Muhammad ibn al-Hanafiyyah (who was the son of ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib) said: “I said to my father, ‘Which of the people was the best after the Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him)?’ He said, ‘Abu Bakr.’ I said, ‘Then who?’ He said, ‘Then ‘Umar.’ I was afraid that he would say ‘Uthmaan. I said, ‘Then is it you?’ He said, ‘I am only one of the Muslims.’” Narrated by Imam Ahmad in his Musnad, 839. It was narrated from Abu Juhayfah that ‘Ali (may Allaah be pleased with him) ascended the minbar and praised and glorified Allaah and sent blessings upon the Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him), then he said: “The best of this ummah after its Prophet is Abu Bakr. The second is ‘Umar (may Allaah be pleased with him), and after that, whoever Allaah wants to be good will be good.” Hazrat Ali bi Nasabi hen? Agar Hazrat Ali sab kay Mawla hen toh phir Hazrat Ali nay keun Hazrat Abu Bakr aur Hazrat Umar, ko buland martbay wala kaha heh. Kia yeh bughz e Hazrat Ali mein Hazrat Ali nay yeh kaha? Baghayr choon charan kay kalma par loh ...
  21. Ya Sideeq! Haq Sideeq! Haq Sideeq! Afzal Sideeq! Kissi ko mirchi lag rahi hogi! Aag lagi hogi. Jalan woh joh burnol bi heal nah kar sakkay.
  22. Mein toh kehta hoon: Mulhidoon ki kia marawat keejeeyeh, Cher'hna Minhaji Rafziyoon ko adat keejeeyeh. Jal jahen Rafzi Kafiroon kay dil, Ya Sideeq, Haq Sideeq, afzal Sideeq ki kasrat keejeeyeh.
  23. Salam alayqum, Agar yeh qawl waqia hi Shah Sahib ka heh aur editing ka nateeja nahin toh; Sahabi kay tabaruq ka kissi aur Sahabi say afzal hona ... Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala bandoon ki aqaloon par parda daal deta heh ... Syed Muzaffar Shah Sahib jesa aalim esi chavlen maray toh Sunni'at ka bera gharq heh phir ... jazbati Peeroon aur Maulviyoon aur Sufiyoon nay bera gharq kar deeya heh Sunniat ka ... joh andaz Shah Sahib nay apnaya heh gustakhana aur ghaleez heh ... aur agar Shah Sahib Syed nah hotay toh kuch kalamat in ki shaan kay baray mein bi kehta magar apna iman kharab gawara nahin ... in-noon nay Thanvi, Ismail Dehalvi, Saharanpuri kay andaaz ko apnaya ... aur agar in ki bunyadi soch ko agar leeya jahay, toh Nabi kay tabaruqaat Sahabah say afzal huway ... aur is ko leh kar agar kohi mehboob hastiyoon ko jhootiyoon ki matti kay barabar honay ka munkir ho aur un hastiyoon mein Hassan (radiallah ta'ala anhu) aur Hussain (radiallah ta'ala anhu), Ali (radiallah ta'ala anhu), aur Fatimah (radiallah ta'ala anha) ka naam bi leh toh phir Shah sahib ki hosh aqal thakanay ahay.
  24. Introduction: Shaykh Thanvi of Deobandi sect wrote knowledge which is gained through another cannot be deemed Ilm al-Ghayb and this belief is need of evidential support. Muslims believe knowledge which reaches through means of another, such as Jibraeel (alayhis salam), is also Ghayb. And Deobandi Shaykh also stated to say a creation has knowledge of Ghayb is prohibited because due to absence of evidence there is danger of falling into Shirk by attributing knowledge of Ghayb to a creation. We Muslims believe Shirk does not become Tawheed by presence or Tawheed become Shirk due to absence evidence. Rather what is Shirk will remain Shirk even if there was evidence and Tawheed would remain Tawheed if there was no evidence. Also to establish that Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) granted Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) the knowledge of Ghayb and to attribute Ilm al-Ghayb to beloved Messenger (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is not Shirk there is danger of Shirk nor it is prohibited. Question Asked Bakr And Answer Given By Shaykh Thanvi: Q: “A certain individual, Amr, stated prostration is of two types, worship, respect, and when on to state Amr believes prostration of respect for other then Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) is permissible. And believes Tawaf (i.e. circumbulation) around the graves (of Awliyah-Allah) is permissible. Evidence of permissibility … Amr also stated Ilm al-Ghayb is bil-Zaat[1] (i.e. of Self), in this meaning only Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) is Aalim ul-Ghayb (i.e. Knower Of Ghayb). And ba-wasta (i.e. with means) and in this meaning RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) was Aalim ul-Ghayb. How is Amr’s this evidence (and what is legal ruling on Amr’s) these actions and belief?” [Ref: Hifz ul-Iman, by Shaykh Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Page2, here] A: “Shar’ri application of mutliq Ghayb[2] (i.e. boundless Ghayb) is upon Ghayb which cannot be established by evidence and for which there is no mean or way of its comprehension. On this (stated) foundation it has stated: "None in the heavens and earth knows the unseen except Allah …” (27:65) and: “And if I knew the unseen, I could have …” (7:188) And knowledge which is via means; on this (type of knowledge) application of (word) Ghayb is need of qarina (i.e. evidential support). Then attributing Ilm Ghayb to creation, without supporting evidence, due to danger of Shirk is prohibited and impermissible.” [Ref: Hifz ul-Iman, by Shaykh Ashraf Ali Thanvi, Page14, here] The Erroneous Foundation Of Shaykh Thanvi: Generally it is believed all that is seen, or heard, touched, … cannot be Ghayb and all that is heard from another cannot be Ghayb. Shaykh Thanvi has based his following statement on the mentioned point: “And knowledge which is via means; on this (type of knowledge) application of (word) Ghayb is need of qarina (i.e. evidential support).” Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) granted Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aaalihi was’sallam) knowledge of Ghayb through angels. Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) stated: “(Allah, He is) Knower of the unseen, and He does not disclose His Ghayb to anyone. Except whom He has approved of messengers, and indeed, He sends before each messenger and behind him observers.” [Ref: 72:26/27] There are other verses but one will suffice just as many. Note implication of the verse is when it reaches to His Messenger it is still Ghayb even though it has come through Jibraeel (alayhis salam). If being delivered by another is reason Ilm al-Ghayb is not Ilm al-Ghayb then should Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) have said that He reveals His Ghayb to a chosen Messenger? Alhasil in sight of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) knowledge sent via Jibraeel (alayhis salam) to Messenger (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is still al-Ghayb. And Shaykh Thanvi can go to hell to convince a believer of truthfulness his position but Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) has decided the matter for believers. Note not all knowledge of Ghayb of RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) was through Jibraeel (alayhis salam) in form of Wahi. Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) saw paradise and heard its sounds and tortures of grave. Therefore to negate Ilm al-Ghayb is senseless. And application of Ghayb for knowledge of RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is established. Refuting Notion; Seeing, Hearing, Informed Of Something Is Not Ghayb: Of course whatever has been seen, or heard, or one is informed of is not Ghayb in normal sense. Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) saw hell and paradise, saw Musa (alayhis salam) performing Salah in his heavenly resting place. He had to see, hear, and get informed by Gibraeel (alayhis salam) to know Ghayb. For Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) to have knowledge of Ghayb the Ghayb had to be disclosed to his sight, hearing, and had to be informed. When the Muslims say Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) has been granted the knowledge of Ghayb it is not because Ghayb is Ghayb from Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) but it is Ghayb from mankind. All that is Ghayb for mankind; such as paradise, hell and punishment of grave, this Ghayb is known to Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallma). Meaning Ghayb knowledge of RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is not Ghayb from him but Ghayb from rest of mankind. And that which was Ghayb from mankind; was known, seen, and heard by Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). This explains why Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) called Wahi delievered via Jibraeel (alayhis salam) as Ghayb. Its not Ghayb from Jibraeel (alayhis salam) and not Ghayb from Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) referred to it as Ghayb because Wahi was Ghayb from all mankind in his life time. Alhasil there is no reason to disbelieve in prophetic knowledge of Ghayb or to attribute Ghayb to Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). Without Evidence There Is Danger Of Shirk: Shaykh Thanvi wrote: “Then attributing Ilm Ghayb to creation, without supporting evidence, due to danger of Shirk is prohibited and impermissible.” In other words Shaykh Thanvi’s belief is in absence of evidence there is danger of committing Shirk if one attributes knowledge of Ghayb to RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) therefore it is not permitted to attribute Ilm al-Ghayb to RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam).[3] Readers should note Shaykh Thanvi’s reasoning is; lack of evidence leads to danger of Shirk, and danger of Shirk leads to prohibition of attributing Ilm al-Ghayb to Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam). Please note evidence refuting Shaykh’s prohibitive injunction has been already presented and discussed. Muslims believe presence and absence of evidence for a belief does not make it Tawheed or Shirk. Suppose if Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) willed to have a son/daughter. And Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) mentioned this in Quran saying I have a son. Will the presence of evidence for Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) having a son make believing in son of Allah a Tawheedi belief? No! Because attributing a partner, son, father, mother, daughter, and wife is all Shirk and even if there was a verse in Quran instructing us to believe in son of Allah it still would be Shirk. The only difference would be that in current Islam Shirk is sin and punishable by eternal fire. In hypothetical context refusing to believe in Shirki belief of Allah having a son would be punishable. Tawheed and Shirk could have become part of Islam but presence or absence of evidence for one or the other would not have turned one into the other. Fundamentally Tawheed is to believe Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) is the One, and the Only Ilah (i.e. God). And Shirk is to believe there are other Ilahs (i.e. gods) beside Him. Attributing Ilm al-Ghayb does not mean one believes RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) is a god beside Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala). And this is true on basic level of Tawheed and Shirk mentioned in the section and for in-depth level. If there was no evidence for attributing Ilm al-Ghayb to RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) at worst one would be guilty of reprehensible innovation but nothing more. It seems Shaykh Thanvi had defective understanding of Tawheed and Shirk or at the very least didn’t properly understand how Shirk is warranted. Conclusion: Presence of evidence for Ilm al-Ghayb of RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) or its absence will not make it Tawheed or Shirk because Tawheed and Shirk are not dependent upon existence or non-existance of evidence in Quran/Hadith. Shirk is attributing a god/gods partners with Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) and not having proof for attributing Ilm al-Ghayb to RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) has nothing to do with it. Knowledge of Ghayb received through another and means of eyes, ears, is termed Ghayb because it is Ghayb from mankind. And RasoolAllah (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) knows Ghayb which was Ghayb for mankind. Textually Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala) called the Wahi Ghayb even when it was being sent through Gibraeel (alayhis salam) which is further proof that Ghayb exposed to hearing, seeing of another (i.e. Gibraeel alayhis salam) and received via another is still Ilm al-Ghayb. Wama alayna ilal balaghul mubeen. Muhammed Ali Razavi FootNotes: - [1] Bil-Zaat (read, biz-Zaat) knowledge of Ghayb, in Urdu Zaati, knowledge is which is inheritently part of someones knowledge and not been granted to person by another or via gained via means. Bil-Zaat is unique for Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala). - [2] Mutliq knowledge of Ghayb, ghayr muntahi (i.e. limitless) referrs to limitless knowledge of Allah (subhanahu wa ta’ala). It is inclusive of all that has happened, is happening, will happen, and is inclusive of limitless knowledge of possibilities (i.e. Mumkinaat). - [3] From his belief it can be assumed that he believes if there was/is evidence supporting Prophet (sallallahu alayhi wa aalihi was’sallam) has knowledge of Ghayb then there would be no danger of Shirk hence it would be permissible to say RasoolAllah (sallallahua layhi wa aalihi was’sallam) has knowledge of Ghayb.
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