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  1. Thora ghor o fikr kernay kay baad mujjay yaqeen heh kay yeh ihtiraaz us munazray meh huwa thah aur Mufti Muti ur Rehman sahib nay achi khaasi jawab meh khatar tawazoh kee thee Deobandi maulvi kee.
  2. Salam alayqum wr wb Baee meh nay be is ka jawab rawayat kay saath pera heh ya suna heh. Ghaliban yeh ihtiraaz Tahir Giyawi kay saathi ka joh munazira Mufti Muti ur Rehman ka India meh huwa thah us meh yeh masla uthaya gaya thah Ala Hazrat ko kaffir sabat kernay kay leyeh. Yeh munazra is forum per mojood heh please sun lenh.
  3. As Salam alayqum wr wb Baee sahib joh aap damagh rakhtay hen woh be hammeh pata heh aur joh aap ilm rakhtay hen woh be hammeh pata heh. Jistera marasi ko haq nahin paunchta kay woh badsha kay takht per be'thay aap ko haq nahin paunchta kay aap ahle ilm o aqal honay ka dawa keren. Har banday kee ilmi aur aqali oqaat hoti heh aap aapni oqaat meh rahen. Aap kee oqaat nursery kay bachay jesi heh deeni ilm kay midaan meh aap nusery meh ho ker hadaiq e bakhsish kay expert honay ka hammeh na batahen aur nah apni aqal kay geet hamaray samjnay gahen. Ham ko woh bilqul nazr aa raha heh kay aap kitna
  4. Salam alayqum wr wb Brother is maslay meh yaqeenan aap ghalti per hen. Sunniyoon ki ghalti yeh heh kay in ko adat per gahi heh ilzami jawab denay kee jis say masail hal nahin hotay. Woh zamana guzr chuka heh kay ilzami jawab pa ker logh ghor o fikr kertay thay aur is say nateeja nikaltay thay joh behtr hota thah. Aaj kal kay daur me logoon kee aqaloon aur soch damagh 2 + 2 = 5 walay hen. Is leyeh aap Deobandi sahibaan thora ghor o fikr keeya keren kay aap ko ilzaami jawab aur is kay dalahil per ghor kerna chahyeh jab aap kay uqabir aap kay khilaaf likh ker gahay hen toh jin dalahil ko unoo
  5. Allah (subhana wa ta'ala) states: “We do relate unto thee the most beautiful of stories, in that We reveal to thee this (portion of the) Qur'an: before this, thou too was among those who knew it not.” [Ref: 12:3] and these stories were narrated in all over the Quran of evens that had taken place before Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam): “Thus do We relate to thee some stories of what happened before: for We have sent thee a Message from Our own Presence.” [Ref: 20:99] These stories were revealed via Wahi as part of Quran: “Such is one of the stories of what happened unseen, which We reveal
  6. We believe that Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) was shown all the universe just as Ibrahim (alayhis salam) was shown everything in the universe: “Narrated AbdurRahman ibn A'ish: Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said: I saw my Lord, the Exalted and Glorious in the most beautiful form. He said: What do the Angels in the presence of Allah contend about? I said: Thou art the most aware of it. He then placed His palm between my shoulders and I felt its coldness in my chest and I came to know what was in the Heavens and the Earth. He recited: 'Thus did we show Ibrahim the kingdom of t
  7. Now coming to Khalis ul Ittiqaad of Sayyidi Ala Hazrat Imam e Ahle Sunnat Qutb ul Awliyah wa Ulamah Ahlus Sunnah Ahmad Raza Khan rahimullah alayhi ta'ala. First of all Khalis ul Ittiqaad is book on ilm al ghayb and while writing on this subject he wrote about mushayda alal ghayb: نبی صلی اللہ علیہ و سلم حاضر و ناظر ہیں اور دنیا میں جو کچھ ہوا اور جو کچھ ہو گا، آپ صلی اللہ علیہ و سلم ہر چیز کا مشاہدہ فرما رہے ہیں۔ آپ صلی اللہ علیہ و سلم ہر جگہ حاضر ہیں اور ہر چیز کو دیکھ رہے ہیں I have no aqeedah difference from these scholars of Ahlus Sunnah wal Jammah only difference between me and th
  8. My Response: As salamu alayqum wr wb My dear brother you have not replied to my actual discussion rather you have only commented on the four points. Pleasse in future adress the content of the discussion. Adress the evidences used to establish the aqahid. You asked me the questions and I was expecting that once you have clear picture you will address my actual post but instead you have only commented on the four points. You can take as much time as you like to read and respond. There is no urgency on my part. I understand everyone is busy with their life chasing dunya. So people have v
  9. Brothers Response: Assalamo alikum! Before I give a proper response to your detailed posts with some arguments I would like to make it sure that what ever I could understand, so for,is correct. plz don't go in to details just testify it or correct the following statements. 1:The ummat will bear witness on being told by Prophet(saw) 2: Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) has been sent as a actual witness, seeing, hearing type of witness upon his Ummah and previous nations. 3: Prophet(saw) is not hazir every where but can be hazir at any place he wants to be. 4: Prophet(saw) is
  10. As-Salam alayqum wr wb Baee, simple baat heh ahle kuffr kay khilaaf jang ka hokam hakim deta heh yeh kissi movement ka kaam nahin heh. Dosri bari waja yeh heh kay Sunniyoon meh Jihaad ka biyaan nahin keeya jata. Sirf fazail e rasoolAllah (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam), sahabah, radd e ahle biddat o kuffr, taq deen mehdood ker deeya gaya heh. Aur har kissi kay saath, peace, compassion, tolerance, love, harmony, brotherhood ki ghalt taleem had taq deh gaee heh kay Sunni abh apnay parahay ka farq nahin kertay. Shia aya us ko beti nikkah meh deh deeh, Wahhabi ko be, Deobandi ko be, joh kutta bi
  11. As salamu alayqum wr wb, Moteram baee Allah ta'ala aap ko jaza e khair deh. Aap nay bari achi post kee magar aap nay ek ghalti kee: "... wasileh ko ikhtiyar krna shirk nahin balkay is wasileh ko ma'bood bana lena shirk heh." Ibarat is tera honi chahyeh thee: "... wasileh ko ikhtiyar krna shirk nahin balkay makhlooq e illahi ko ma'bood bana lena shirk heh." Aur saath yeh be add ker doon kay mabood wohi hota heh jis ko ila yehni god mana jahay, ghair khuda ko mabood kohi naihn banata. Shirk akbar dar haqiqat aqeedeh kee bunyad per lazam ata heh nah kay ibadat kernay say. Agar kohi kissi ko
  12. With regards to your refference five, it states that when a Sahabi read the verse: "O Prophet! Truly We have sent you as a Witness, a Bearer of Glad Tidings, and Warner." [Ref: 33:45] Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) cried and stated: "O Lord those who are present with me I will be witness over them but those who i have not seen how [would my witnessing be] about them?" [Ref: Musnad Imam Ahmad and Tabarani Mujam al Kabir] Before i answer the given evidence, let me lay the foundation of response so that you understand it properly. Ibrahim alayhis salam believed firmly that Allah (subha
  13. Salamu alayqum wr wb Before I respond to your actual reply it would be better to establish the actual meaning of verse: "O Prophet! Truly We have sent you as a Witness, a Bearer of Glad Tidings, and Warner." [Ref: 33:45] because upon it the entire discussion hinges. Interpretation of the verse during the life of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) was he actually was a witness, in meaning hearing, seeing. Now the verse does not make exceptions such as; only hearing seeing type of witness until you are alive, or only hearing seeing type of witness to actions you see, and words you hea. Ra
  14. Brother's Second Response: Assalmo alilum! I am going to make a quite brief comment on your a bit long post. 1: In the Quran Prophet Muhammad(saw) and His ummat has been called " shahid". 2: It has been made clear in sahih hadits that in which way and sense these two have been called "shahid " i.e this ummat will bear witness upon previous ummats on the basis of their knowledge provided to them by Prophet(saw) and than Prophet(saw) will testify His ummat. 3: If you keep on insisting that two abilities are must for shahid than you will have to accept that this whole ummat is
  15. My First Response: As-Salamu alayqum wr wb My dear brother a truthful witness must possess two qualities of Hadhir, Isa alayhis salam said, I was witness whilest i was among them meaning he was witness when he was Hadhir among his Ummah:"Never said I to them aught except what Thou didst command me to say, to wit, 'worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord'; and I was a witness over them whilst I dwelt amongst them; when Thou didst take me up Thou wast the Watcher over them, and Thou art a witness to all things." [Ref: 5:117] Secondly a witness must see the events he is bearing witness
  16. Salamu alayqum wr wb This is a discussion with a brother on subject of Hadhir Nadhir. I thought it would benefit our brothers and sisters. Please Do Not Respond In This Thread Until The Discussion Is Completed. Muhammed Ali Razavi ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My First Post: As salam aalayqum wr wb, Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) is Shahid (i.e. witness) and a witness must posess two qualties; Hadhir (i.e. present phisically) as well as Nadhir (hearin
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  18. Introduction: Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) is reported to have said: “Avoid novelties, for every novelty is an innovation, and every innovation is an error." [Ref: Abu Dawood, B40, H4590] and in another hadith similar statement: “And the most evil affairs are the innovations; and every innovation is error." [Ref: Muslim, B4, H1885] Anthropomorphic Wahhabiyah as well as off-shoots of Wahhabi sect distort the meaning of these ahadith of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) in order to refute the existence of biddah hasanah (i.e. good innovation). They argue the word qullu (i.e. eve
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  20. - [36] Part One: The translator inserted the following words in brackets: “they will recite like parrots and will not understand it nor act on it.” which I have removed due it being a interpretation and not actually representing what Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) intended by his this statement: "Among the off-spring of this man will be some who will recite the Qur'an but the Qur'an will not reach beyond their throats ...” The intended meaning of the statement of Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) will broaden the interpretations of the hadith, and open the gate which has been close
  21. - [24] She accused beloved Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) of writing defamatory poem about her, she said: “[...] `O Abu Bakr! Verily, I have been informed that your friend is making defamatory poetry about me.' [...]” [Ref: Tafsir Ibn Kathir] It is also recorded that she use to fling cactus and thorns in path of beloved Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam): “... and this was Umm Jamīl — the carrier (read hammālatu or hammālata) of firewood, cactus and thorns which she used to fling into the path of the Prophet (s).” [Ref: Tafsir Al Jalalayn, Verse 4] Tafsir Ibn Abbas (radiallah ta'ala
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  24. Also the Wahhabis allege that Sunni's exaggerate in praising Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) as the Christians exaggerated in praise of Prophet Isa (alayhis sallam). The implication of the second charge is that our 'exaggeration' has reached to the level where we take Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) as a god, and that we worship him as Christians took Jesus as god and worship him. Part Two: The two quoted Wahhabis make takfir of Muslims because they believe Prophet (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) is being worshiped with words such as; 'Ya RasoolAllah (sallalahu alayhi was'sallam) hel
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